Suggestion:20080501 Ice Storms 2.0

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20080501 Ice Storms 2.0

Kolechovski 21:22, 1 May 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type
Temporary Balance Change. Suggestion scope
Weather. Suggestion description
Description: I pulled the first suggestion for revamping. To clarify some details as well, ice storms can only happen while Malton is in its "Snowy" state, like it was during the winter months this past winter (about 3 months a year). While in this state, there is a 2% chance for an ice storm each day. If an ice storm occurs, its effects can last up to 3 days (a 33% chance each of ending on either the first, second, or third day after the storm hits). This averages 2 ice storms each winter, and most storms’ effects don’t go beyond 3 days that often (the mechanic involved makes sure the screwy RNG can’t cause a storm lasting weeks).

With everything icy, descriptions will be added... Inside a building: "Wavy ice coats the windows." Outside a building: "The ground is covered with ice. It hangs on the sides of the nearby building." Outside anywhere else: "The ground is covered with ice."

Effects on movements:

Movements made directly inside/outside of buildings are unaffected.

Free Runners risk a 5% chance of falling from their building when attempting to Free Run to another building, with the current fall mechanics of ruined buildings (same chances of getting hurt for same amounts).

Description of fall: “You slip on the icy ledge and fall to the street, injuring yourself (if hurt).

For those moving outside, while walking around from one block to another, each move has a 25% chance in resulting in you slipping and falling. The increased chance is because you're walking around on icy ground a lot more, though you don't have to worry about falling a distance to the ground. If you slip and fall, you complete the move but are charged another AP for getting back up after stumbling, regardless of human or zombie state, or skills (the fall doesn't leave you lying on the ground completely, so zombies without Ankle Grab aren't standing up clear from the ground). In other words, a slip/fall move would mean a walk down the block costs 2 AP. Those zombies lacking Lurching Gait move slow and can’t slip/fall (in other words, they’re unaffected by ice). Also, since this does not leave anyone lying completely on the ground, people can’t abuse this for free dirt naps.

Description of fall: “You slip while walking/shambling along the ground, stumble to your knees, and get back up.”

Now of course, there are various wintry mixes involving sleet and other combinations, but as they all make things extremely treacherous, for simplicity, let's just call them ice storms for now, or if you want, could even add flavor by defining the type of slippery substance.

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Keep Votes

1. Author Keep - Because e approx = 2.718281828459045235360287471352662497--Kolechovski 21:24, 1 May 2008 (BST)
2. Lol- Lollerskaters mite slip!!! ONOZ!!! --BoboTalkClown
3. Keep - doesnt seem ground breaking and adds a bit of fun to being outside --Lt.G Deathnut ^freelance 22:01, 1 May 2008 (BST)
4. Keep - Do we get ice skates? --Pvt human 23:22, 1 May 2008 (BST)
5. Keep Whatever--Jamie Cantwel3 ^Talk 05:28, 2 May 2008 (BST)
6. Keep I like it. ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:24, 2 May 2008 (BST)
7. Keep Yay for weather effect that actually impact gameplay! --_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 21:16, 2 May 2008 (BST)
8. Keep- Whaaa!!! --UCFSD 14:02, 5 May 2008 (BST)
9. Keep - But make it more rare of an occurance --Psalm42 00:21, 14 May 2008 (BST)
10. Keep - Voting keep primarily out of pity, since this poor suggestion is getting totally raped. --Zaphod Beeblebrox 18:46, 14 May 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Zombies are unaffected? WHAT. --Vandurn 22:05, 1 May 2008 (BST)

   Re: Only zombies that lack Lurching Gait are unaffected by slips while walking (they're moving too slow to really have any chance to slip and fall). I should have also specified that that only applies to them walking, not combat.--Kolechovski 20:48, 4 May 2008 (BST)

2. Kill - Fog was the only weather update that really "worked" --דקק#99 22:49, 1 May 2008 (BST)
3. Kill - Can't agree to anything that takes AP away from players just for change sake. Sorry, we need to be as efficient with AP as it is without having to be extra cautious 3 days of the year. --Machinany gun 00:57, 2 May 2008 (BST)
4. Kill - Oh goody, another suggestion that would only make our lives more difficult. "Spice things up" my ass.--  ^Z_Z 03:30, 2 May 2008 (BST)
5. Kill - Don't need a totally different game with increased movement costs seasonally at all. --Riseabove 03:34, 2 May 2008 (BST)
6. Kill - As above. And I think it would be a really dumb thing for new players. Just created your human? Wanna go and find a zombie to fight? Good, now go outside, and slip. You no longer have enough AP to get to safety. Have fun playing a zombie from level 0!--TagUrIt 05:28, 2 May 2008 (BST)
7. Kill - ice storms? why not tornadoes or a volcanoes or poison monkeys? --Scotw 09:32, 2 May 2008 (BST)
8. Kill - As person who said we don't need new AP wastages. --WanYao 10:13, 2 May 2008 (BST)
9. Kill - Hey, let's make the game harder for everyone! Seriously, WTF?  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  17:27, 2 May 2008 (BST)
10. Kill - It's a bit interesting, but the effects would make the game less fun. --ZsL 17:35, 2 May 2008 (BST)
11. Kill - I'm with them. Weather is just an unnecessary, annoying addition. --Diano 21:51, 2 May 2008 (BST)
12. Nahuh - Wevver is baaaaaaad.--xoxo 11:58, 3 May 2008 (BST)
13. Kill -Hey, let's make the game harder for everyone!--Crazyloop 17:14, 3 May 2008 (BST)
14. Kill - It's too radical for my tastes. --Sgt. Napalm 02:39, 6 May 2008 (BST)
15. Kill - Seems annoying.--Carnexhat 06:09, 7 May 2008 (BST)
16. Kill - The random chance of free-running failing seems annoying. --Toejam 06:10, 8 May 2008 (BST)
17. Kill - No.--Screw Names 07:40, 9 May 2008 (BST)

    _{Kill - As Crazyloop. Bad idea. This idea should be buried, then you should bury the shovel with which you buried the idea. unsigned vote--– Nubis 16:25, 12 May 2008 (BST)}

18. Kill- pointless. gabdewulf 05:14, 11 May 2008 (BST)
19. kill- while we're at it, why not also make tornados which turn buildings to ruin instantly, since we are so keen on making it harder for survivors via weather --Katsman 23:09, 11 May 2008 (BST)
20. Kill - This idea is so dumb that I think everyone who had to read this has had their IQ lowered as a result. Cisco 05:40, 13 May 2008 (BST)
21. Kill - Nerf to zombie movement/ap efficiency. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ^TMG 09:52, 13 May 2008 (BST)
22. Change - Change to make it more disadvantageous to zombies - they're not as good at balancing as humans should be --Spyro 20:18, 13 May 2008 (BST)

    Kill - Has no one ever heard of good weather when making weather suggestions - it always has to be something that makes it harder for the living? --Pander 22:41, 13 May 2008 (BST) - Striking sock vote. -- Cheese 23:56, 18 May 2008 (BST)

23. Kill - Seasonal waste of AP, no. --#19 - DrPain ^TMG 06:56, 14 May 2008 (BST)
24. Kill - Unnecessary, AP wastage, etc. --Cryptosporidium 15:14, 14 May 2008 (BST)

    I tried to vote for this twice and each time it's not letting me. Help. I don't like this as much as I liked fog or snow -- Allison 15:35, 14 May 2008 (BST) Voted twice. --ZsL 16:32, 14 May 2008 (BST)

25. No - Just... no. --Sullivan 17:45, 14 May 2008 (BST)

    Kill/change - Remove the ankle grab nullification of the penalty and remove the free running penalty, because you can already hurt yourself free running in ruined buildings, and it would be better --Lambert 20:01, 14 May 2008 (BST) - Sock. -- Cheese 00:27, 19 May 2008 (BST)

26. Kill Free Running Nerf --Piccolo

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Strong Kill - I hate weather suggestions, pointless.... who needs flavor? I'm a water guy anyway....--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 01:27, 2 May 2008 (BST)

   Re: Spam isn't for Strong Kills. People often confuse that for some reason. That vote should be in the Kill section.--Kolechovski 20:48, 4 May 2008 (BST)

2. Spam - Slippey slidey ice worlds are one of the Top Ten Crimes Against Gamers. --Funt Solo ^QT 11:53, 3 May 2008 (BST)

   Re: I do have to agree that ice in games is often a nightmare. I tried to make it minimally effective in this one, so it was more of an enjoyable feature than everybody being stuck in place.--Kolechovski 20:48, 4 May 2008 (BST)

3. . - When the world freezes over, I can play Superman in my ice kingdom! -doc crook 13:20, 13 May 2008 (BST)
4. Spam - This is needlessly complicated and I'm not even sure how common ice storms are in England, unlike fog. I do not think this idea can be fixed because of the nature of it being 'ice storms'. I vote Spam. --Howser 21:51, 13 May 2008 (BST)
5. Spam - I'll vote keep on this when hell freezes over. And Malton. --Schlindler 14:44, 14 May 2008 (BST)
6. I liked snow and fog, but this one seems too forced (if I make a mistake on this someone please fix it for me) -- Allison 15:32, 14 May 2008 (BST)

   Coco! - Coco? coco coco Coco. (Translation: Icestorms? I think not.) ---Coco Roco 08:57, 15 May 2008 (BST) - Striking sock vote. -- Cheese 23:56, 18 May 2008 (BST)