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As the title says; all zombies will have the ability to {{Button|Feed on a corpse}}, just as ones who have the [[Digestion]] skill currently can. If the corpse was "fresh" (meaning not reviving, and has not yet been fed on 10 times, as currently required to | As the title says; all zombies will have the ability to {{Button|Feed on a corpse}}, just as ones who have the [[Digestion]] skill currently can. If the corpse was "fresh" (meaning not reviving, and has not yet been fed on 10 times, as currently required to regain HP by feeding using digestion) the zombie would gain 1 XP. Zombies with [[Digestion]] would also gain up to 4 HP, as normal. | ||
The purpose behind this suggestion is primarily to allow zombies who have few or no zombie skills a method of gaining XP that is not painfully slow and is in character. Currently the best method of gaining XP for low level zombies (in the likely absence of survivors) is to attack other zombies, which is very "out of genre". Eating fresh corpses, on the other hand, is something EVERY zombie loves, and should be allowed and encouraged to do! | The purpose behind this suggestion is primarily to allow zombies who have few or no zombie skills a method of gaining XP that is not painfully slow and is in character. Currently the best method of gaining XP for low level zombies (in the likely absence of survivors) is to attack other zombies, which is very "out of genre". Eating fresh corpses, on the other hand, is something EVERY zombie loves, and should be allowed and encouraged to do! | ||
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#I see no reason why not. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | #I see no reason why not. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
#'''Keep/Change''' - The only drawback I can see is that corpses would be fed upon much more often and will be more quickly picked over. If corpses are a source of XP then suggestion should include a change to number of times it can be fed upon. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | #'''Keep/Change''' - The only drawback I can see is that corpses would be fed upon much more often and will be more quickly picked over. If corpses are a source of XP then suggestion should include a change to number of times it can be fed upon. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
#'''Keep/change''' I like the idea but assuming there at fresh bodies a person could passively gain 50xp a day which seems a tad high. Granted like vapor said corpses would be fed on more often so it might balance itself. | #'''Keep/change''' I like the idea but assuming there at fresh bodies a person could passively gain 50xp a day which seems a tad high. Granted like vapor said corpses would be fed on more often so it might balance itself.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 20:00, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
#'''Keep''' That helps babah zambahz to climb out of that early low-level hole all by themselves. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 20:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - It's a good, genre appropriate way to help new zombies level up. --[[User:Armpit Odor|<span style="color:red"><sup>A</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>O</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>R</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>D</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>M</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>O</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>P</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>R</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>I</sup><span style="color:green"><sub> ! </sub><span style="color:red"><sup>T</sup></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>]] 20:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep/Change''' - Maybe make it like reading a book. Where you won't always gain XP for feeding on a dead body but, give some bonus. "You see the expertly made claw marks on the flesh and learn something about attacking humans." Or, "You look the body over before digging in finding nothing of interest."--[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 22:04, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - Very good idea. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 23:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' Compliments [[digestion]] without making it worthless. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:36, 5 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - <Cyrus>Can you dig it?</Cyrus> {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - Makes sense, although it won't stop fags zking my zambah... silly harmans raging at the internet [[User:Spud|Spud]] 18:20, 8 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - I like it; but it should work like this, at level 5 or so you don't get XP from eating corpses anymore. That way it will help low level zeds get XP without letting them milk the easy XP forever.--[[User:Truezombieboy|Truezombieboy]] 07:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - Sure, it's just easy XP, but really, it's no easier than walking up to a zombie mob and DNA scanning them all. {{User:Angel_Kitson/Sig}} 12:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#Authors Vote - {{User:Swiers/Sig}} 16:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - Not a huge huge fan, but I do like it, and it's small enough that, while useful, it won't be anywhere close to overpowering. Low level feral zeds are the only ones that get a boost from this, since hordes feed their members via claws and bites often enough that their AP is better spent in that way, rather than using it with this. This ability would just be a nice way to ensure that ''some'' progression is taking place for those newbie feral zeds that need it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Keep''' - As Aichon said.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 06:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#I was going to vote kill, feeling uncomfortable with the potential for 50XP for doing nothing towards the zombie cause. But having looked over the stats for dead bodies and the amount of level 1 zombies I feel more confident that it wouldn't be a bad change. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 18:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#{{s|'''Keep''' Mostly cause the kill votes are lame. - [[User:Pardus|Pardus]] 12:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)}} <small>Voting had ended.</small> | |||
'''Kill Votes''' | '''Kill Votes''' | ||
#'''Kill''' - More xp by attacking fellow zombies. --[[User:Zamins|Zamins]] 01:56, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Kill''' - There are three things we want to encourage: Roleplaying, risk taking, and community participation. This boosts role playing, but drops the motivation for risk taking and friend making. ''Why check out that groan when I can click a button fifty times?'' People do what rewards them, not necessarily what's fun. We need to reward them only for what entertains them enough to come back. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 04:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Kill''' - No because then zombies will go looking for inactive characters then repeatedly feed on their corpse until they have all the skills they want. {{User:Radio/Sig}} | |||
#'''Kill''' - In addition to my concerns on the discussion page, TripleU's arguments are compelling as well. This suggestion would make it far too easy for lower-level accounts to level up. [[User:Mink Snopes|Mink Snopes]] 03:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#''''Kill''' - This is just way too easy XP. {{User:Dezonus/sig}} 10:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#''''Kill''' - Gives an unfair advantage to Zombified players.--[[User:CTRA|CTRA]] 09:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#:Currently it seems such players are at an unfair DISadvantage; a zombie who gets revived and has no survivor skills can earn XP as a survivor much faster than a survivor who gets killed and has no zombie skills will earn XP. Or is "dead survivor" not what yopu meant by "Zombified players"? I don't think any of the PLAYERS are actually zombies (although at some point pretty much every character is a zombie) so I'm a bit confused... {{User:Swiers/Sig}} 23:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Kill'''- Unfair advantage --[[User:Fenian|Fenian]] 21:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
#'''Kill''' - for the glory! -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 07:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
'''Spam/Dupe Votes''' | '''Spam/Dupe Votes''' | ||
#:{{s|1='''Spam''' - hurr can my fak give me xp plz -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 05:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)}} | |||
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20101105 All Zombies Feed on Corpses; Feeding Grants 1 XP
Swiers 00:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Suggestion type
balance change / improvement
Suggestion scope
all zombies
Suggestion description
As the title says; all zombies will have the ability to Feed on a corpse, just as ones who have the Digestion skill currently can. If the corpse was "fresh" (meaning not reviving, and has not yet been fed on 10 times, as currently required to regain HP by feeding using digestion) the zombie would gain 1 XP. Zombies with Digestion would also gain up to 4 HP, as normal.
The purpose behind this suggestion is primarily to allow zombies who have few or no zombie skills a method of gaining XP that is not painfully slow and is in character. Currently the best method of gaining XP for low level zombies (in the likely absence of survivors) is to attack other zombies, which is very "out of genre". Eating fresh corpses, on the other hand, is something EVERY zombie loves, and should be allowed and encouraged to do!
Voting Section
Voting Rules |
Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped.
Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user. |
The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote. |
Keep Votes
- Keep Attacking other zombies is bad, being attacked by other zombies is worse ~m T! 18:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- I see no reason why not. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep/Change - The only drawback I can see is that corpses would be fed upon much more often and will be more quickly picked over. If corpses are a source of XP then suggestion should include a change to number of times it can be fed upon. ~ 18:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep/change I like the idea but assuming there at fresh bodies a person could passively gain 50xp a day which seems a tad high. Granted like vapor said corpses would be fed on more often so it might balance itself. 20:00, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep That helps babah zambahz to climb out of that early low-level hole all by themselves. -- Spiderzed▋ 20:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - It's a good, genre appropriate way to help new zombies level up. --AORDMOPRI ! T 20:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep/Change - Maybe make it like reading a book. Where you won't always gain XP for feeding on a dead body but, give some bonus. "You see the expertly made claw marks on the flesh and learn something about attacking humans." Or, "You look the body over before digging in finding nothing of interest."--keepster33 22:04, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Very good idea. --Papa Moloch 23:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Compliments digestion without making it worthless. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:36, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - <Cyrus>Can you dig it?</Cyrus> 01:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Makes sense, although it won't stop fags zking my zambah... silly harmans raging at the internet Spud 18:20, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - I like it; but it should work like this, at level 5 or so you don't get XP from eating corpses anymore. That way it will help low level zeds get XP without letting them milk the easy XP forever.--Truezombieboy 07:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Sure, it's just easy XP, but really, it's no easier than walking up to a zombie mob and DNA scanning them all. ~~ Angel♥Kitson 12:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Authors Vote - Swiers 16:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Not a huge huge fan, but I do like it, and it's small enough that, while useful, it won't be anywhere close to overpowering. Low level feral zeds are the only ones that get a boost from this, since hordes feed their members via claws and bites often enough that their AP is better spent in that way, rather than using it with this. This ability would just be a nice way to ensure that some progression is taking place for those newbie feral zeds that need it. —Aichon— 20:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - As Aichon said.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 06:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
- I was going to vote kill, feeling uncomfortable with the potential for 50XP for doing nothing towards the zombie cause. But having looked over the stats for dead bodies and the amount of level 1 zombies I feel more confident that it wouldn't be a bad change. - User:Whitehouse 18:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Mostly cause the kill votes are lame. - Pardus 12:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC) Voting had ended.
Kill Votes
- Kill - More xp by attacking fellow zombies. --Zamins 01:56, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Kill - There are three things we want to encourage: Roleplaying, risk taking, and community participation. This boosts role playing, but drops the motivation for risk taking and friend making. Why check out that groan when I can click a button fifty times? People do what rewards them, not necessarily what's fun. We need to reward them only for what entertains them enough to come back. --VVV RPMBG 04:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Kill - No because then zombies will go looking for inactive characters then repeatedly feed on their corpse until they have all the skills they want. Radio
- Kill - In addition to my concerns on the discussion page, TripleU's arguments are compelling as well. This suggestion would make it far too easy for lower-level accounts to level up. Mink Snopes 03:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- 'Kill - This is just way too easy XP. -Dezonus- (talk) 10:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
- 'Kill - Gives an unfair advantage to Zombified players.--CTRA 09:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Currently it seems such players are at an unfair DISadvantage; a zombie who gets revived and has no survivor skills can earn XP as a survivor much faster than a survivor who gets killed and has no zombie skills will earn XP. Or is "dead survivor" not what yopu meant by "Zombified players"? I don't think any of the PLAYERS are actually zombies (although at some point pretty much every character is a zombie) so I'm a bit confused... Swiers 23:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- Kill- Unfair advantage --Fenian 21:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Kill - for the glory! -- LEMON #1 07:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Spam/Dupe Votes