Category talk:Historical Groups

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups. Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are Yea and Nay. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)

Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

The Grove

The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgewood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^

Voting Rules

Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms: # comments ~~~~ or # ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Yes

1. Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. Rib15 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15
2. Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)
3. Yeah, maybe. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)
4. You talked me into it. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)
5. Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. Asheets 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)
6. Yes - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. —Aichon— 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)
7. The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --keepster33 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)
8. weak yes i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)
9. Super Weak Yes - I have never heard of The Grove, but I haven't been up to the NW corner for anything either. Certainly sounds like a group worthy of the historical section on the Judgewood suburb page, but I leave it to others to make a case for them being historical beyond that. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 07:20, 14 October 2010 (BST)
10. Never knew them personally but they seem like they were a good bunch. Weeks MCDU 01:58, 17 October 2010 (BST)
11. Considering there are no real criteria for historical eligibility other than being disbanded, I'm going to throw in on the Yes side due to sheer longevity (~5 years is pretty impressive) and the fact that I remember bumping into these guys with my survivor. Good luck with the nom, and sorry to see yet another small local group closing down. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:11, 26 October 2010 (BST)

No

1. I say, who are you? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)
2. This is beyond a joke. 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)
3. I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)
4. -- LEMON #1 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   Move to strike. According to the rules, there must be a yes or a no vote. This post has neither. How do you know if this isn't an incorrectly placed Yes? Rib15 16:25, 21 October 2010 (BST)

   You're being petty (seriously...I'm tempted to arbitrarily renounce my Yes vote after seeing everything you've said here), and no, the rules do not say that. According to the voting rules (which are to the side), the only valid voting sections are Yes and No. Placing your vote in one of them is sufficient to vote that way (thus satisfying point #3 of the policy at the top of the page). —Aichon— 21:18, 21 October 2010 (BST)

   Read the voting rules above and don't you dare touch my vote. -- LEMON #1 03:24, 26 October 2010 (BST)

5. Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --Papa Moloch 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. —Aichon— 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so. --keepster33 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). Keepster33: No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.Rib15 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)

6. No, you've got to be kidding.-Fallout11 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)
7. Who? - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --VVV ^RPMBG 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)

   Please reconsider your vote. Lots of groups, like the Dribbling Beavers, dedicate themselves to defending a single suburb. The Grove was also involved in the early seiges of Caiger Mall, which are almost universally considered classics. Also, read the summary of the group's 2007 tour of Malton. Rib15 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)

   1.) They aren't insignificant because they focused on one suburb, they're insignificant because they never got it safe enough that they could move farther out (like the RRF does in Greater Ridleybank), because they were never powerful enough to have that much of an effect. 2.) Lots of groups attend sieges. EVIL went to escape, and they aren't historical. 3.) Going on a tour is not historical. --VVV ^RPMBG 17:10, 21 October 2010 (BST)

8. Who? - --Kooks 23:10, 13 October 2010 (BST)
9. An old group is not always a historical one.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 17:41, 14 October 2010 (BST)

   If you carry that reasoning forward, then most museums should throw out large portions of their collections. After all, they're only old kitchen items...I see that FES has historical status. They defended only a single BUILDING! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rib15 (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

10. Is this a joke? --Radio 03:31, 17 October 2010 (BST)
11. You glance at a man with black rimmed glasses. Before you ask him for approval, he says "No." --Noted Literature critic, Mead Sheaffer. 05:20, 17 October 2010 (BST)
12. ...Hasn't Judgewood been predominantly ruined until fairly recently? My alt used to run through there last year and never iced one of these fellas. Criminally Insane ^{Talk | LoD} 05:24, 20 October 2010 (BST)

    Of course you didn't see them. They're disbanded. That's why they're being considered for historical status.And I just looked: Brentnal Grove PD is operating just fine. The Grove maintained that as a stronghold and the tradition continues.Rib15 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)

    Pork Chop Sandwiches Although this vote has neither a yes or a no (and may even theoretically be misplaced), the world may never know. -- Shatari 04:10, 26 October 2010 (BST)Voting had closed

    NO, so sayeth the Blob! --Dr summeroff 19:15, 26 October 2010 (BST)Voting had closed

With 11 For and 12 Against, The Grove has failed to achieve historical group status at this time. —Aichon— 21:02, 26 October 2010 (BST)

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