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Lulz

ic wat u did thar. --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

whar? --xoxo 03:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

HAR! DURR!--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 04:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hollomstown

Rid of merged pages. :)--Lithedarkangel 23:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

noice! --xoxo 02:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Missed one

Candy Avenue. _■^■ 02:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Missed what?--LithedarkangelMeth! 03:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

You are creating History

Grim made a coupe, tried to take over the wiki.

You lol'd at an account creation you knew nothing of.

Surely if they go through with this, you can make some sort of flashy template stating how you were the first person to have this happen?--CyberRead240 07:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, oh, me me! Lemme make it!-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

lol.

lol. _■^■ 01:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

evidently i can be more wrong ;) --xoxo 02:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yus, I gnoh Bub and Kevan, I'm interesting in their profiles and activity, location might come later. _■^■ 04:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Irony?

hahaha oh wow you're delusional. --Cyberbob 12:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

you just noticed? --xoxo 13:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah?

Nominate? --Pestolence^(talk) 00:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm up for it if you and SA are.--xoxo 00:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

do eeet --Cyberbob 00:53, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Nao. _■^■ 01:04, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm waiting for SA to say something since his name was mentioned. Now kindly GTFO ma talk page.--xoxo 01:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

That goes for all of you. Or none of you. I mean it is a free wiki...--xoxo 01:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

hai. i here u liek mudkipz --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Mudkipz suck. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:10, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Where's axehack?? I want him back :( --xoxo 01:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Axehack is no more... --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

He was briefly more on the 6th of jan..why is this happening? I, for one, blame the current sysop team ;) --xoxo 01:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I blame the previous sysop team. Grim s, to be more precise. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Iscariot...Whoooooo....Now THAT would be one hell of a promotions bid. I'd honestly say give it a while for everything that's around him to die down some, but it might not happen anyway. Its up to you guys on what happens. Just saying it might be more prudent to wait a bit.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

yeah agree, it's a bit chaotic atm. --xoxo 00:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll be ready to do it when you guys are ready... I think it will be interesting to see what reasons people give for voting against, and how many people outside the sysop team are opposed to it. I personally think Iscariot would be a very good sysop. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

of course! It's not just a show for a shows sake. I wouldn't nominate someone i didn't genuinely want as sysop. Still i think it's best if we wait til the wiki is a bit quieter. --xoxo 01:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

His actions in the few places where they've given him power over users say much to the contrary. --Judge Karke 05:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I can haz links? Or examples? --Pestolence^(talk) 21:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I doubt he'd accept the nomination... I mean, if he were a sysop, he couldn't post to his own Talk page LOL. --WanYao 05:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL he'd be what he must have always hated!!! xD Liberty 05:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Iscariot doesn't hate Sysops altogether, he just hates the way the current sysops teams acts and handles things. He's pointed that out occasionally.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 11:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

No, he hates that we don't dance to his tune. Also read Recruitment/Archive2 for a bit Pestolence, then check the arbitration case that relates to it.(talk page too), there's also a few little snipes because of this he's been making about me throughout the wiki claiming that I'm going against the consensus of the community or twisting recruitment to my own ends. He's a paranoid delusional, we're all out to get him and opposing him is the same as opposing the community in his eyes. You can see some of that here. --Judge Karke 01:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

According to this bit on Kevan's page, the "community" he is referring to are the folk who aren't actually on the wiki. =/ Convenient eh? -- Cheese 01:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It's funny cause I know that community, I know more people in it than him and the reason is actually the kinda things he's doing and the related drama/rules abuse. I know people in that same community that have expressed problems with his behavior here after seeing it for themselves even. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

So basically he's got the wrong end of the stick completely and is now making an even bigger arse of himself because of it? =/ Clever. -- Cheese 02:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I think thats a bit harsh, yes Iscariot is an arse and out to cause trouble for troubles sake but his attacks are not without valid points. The current Admin team does do a (mostly) good job but the assumption by some that they are above community review and that those that disagree with them are trouble making malcontents is far from the truth. Despite the claims to the contrary "Sysopship" no longer suggests a mere janitorial role, rather it designates some users as being in positions of judgment over other users. Until the sysop position recognizes a difference between users that the community trusts to do routine maintenance etc... and to hold a position of authority and judgment over others then drama will always ensue. As is, the sysop role really does seem to be turning into an exclusive club type thing, true or not that is not an image that is good for the position or the community at large!--Honestmistake 02:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

1)You're preaching to the choir. Who do you think started the debate over the claims to being just janitors? 2) The system was set up originally to not have community review for a reason. That reason is still somewhat valid and more reasons connecting to that one have caused the failure of every proposition for regular review. 3) Iscariot only has points when he accidentally stumbles upon then in the midst of his attempts to make everyone fall in line, I used to think it was intentional but his behavior has long since made it clear to me that he doesn't actually believe the "points" he has except for as a means to an end. --Judge Karke 02:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The last thing that made the third one ridiculously clear to me was the RRF move drama.--Judge Karke 02:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

1) not really aware of who started it... just know its been grumbling on for ever and a day. 2) community review has many things in its favour foremost of which is that it confirms that the sysops are "trusted" by the current userbase, its also very open to abuse by all and sundry and yes it would also make it hard for sysops to do the contentious stuff that makes them unpopular but still needs doing! 3)Just because the valid points he hits upon are not the ones he is aiming at doesn't make them any less valid, it does however make him look stupid and petty.--Honestmistake 08:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually spirit of the rule is as important as the law. The reason it's being enforced more so. You don't give native americans repirations for slavery because they were both referred to with the same term back in the day. For #2 please read the comment on my talk page to pestolence, I don't think we should be starting another massive discussion on J3D's talk page without him being a part of it. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 10:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow i didn't expect all this upon my return. Now to catch up on whats happened elsewhere....--xoxo 22:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Yup. INMNSHO that's why he's so worried about constant proper English. If he ever used slang or slipped up, the holes in his ideas would be clear as day. He creates a false air of authority and correctives.--SirArgo ^Talk 02:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I get some input?

I've been working on a policy that I believe is sorely needed here, and I'd appreciate your input on it. How can it be improved, and is it even needed right now? A potential problem is what to do about current sysops: put them all up for review now (leading to a massive backlog of admin page drama), postpone the review until six months from now (simply staving off the inevitable drama till later), or something else glaringly obvious that I've overlooked? See you around. --Pestolence^(talk) 02:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, thanks. --Pestolence^(talk) 16:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

:( I feel unwanted...--xoxo 00:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Aw. =( We still love you Jed! -- Cheese 00:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

pwomise? --xoxo 00:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh huh. =) Without you the wiki would asplode. -- Cheese 00:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

i suspected as much, now back to work. There be vandalism cases to rule on ;) --xoxo 00:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Meh. S'pose. I could take a couple of minutes out of my busy revision schedule to take a mosey on over for a look. =p -- Cheese 01:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

OMGMISCONBULATIONCHEESEISLAZYIMASOGONNATELLISCARIOT --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

kidding.--xoxo 01:07, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

you little... heh --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

did i getcha? huh? well? did i?? did i?? --xoxo 01:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

star wars

its not that i liek it, but its public knoweledge... like the brother grimm tales in 19th century. Anyway, why dont you liek star wars ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 00:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

hint:begins with f, ends with inis. But i didn't particularly like it before that anyway.--xoxo 00:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

what does f floyd inis has to do with star wars ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod}

what the 2 Cool is that?? --xoxo 00:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

fpenis?-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 03:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

fpenis.--xoxo 04:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Classic lulz

Truer words never were spoken - unless someone once said cyberbob was a cunt, then that would be truer. Lol, truer is a weird-looking word.--Nallan (Talk) 07:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Cyberbob is a cunt--CyberRead240 07:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Did you guys like the presents i left you? The wiki has been awesome lately, reminds me of the grim days. --xoxo 01:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

DOHOHOHO --Cyberbob 01:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

merry january! --xoxo 01:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I need your advice

Hello. It's me again. I need your advice on something. Neice has not edited the Dead Dudes page again. However, he has now posted some extremely anti-DD propaganda on The Sidney Arms page. Please have a look and tell me what you think. In my opinion (which i have stated to Neice),such statements have no place on a location page. he should put them on his own group's page. It is becoming tiresome to myself and our group, as he is nothing more than a griefer in-game and apparently feels compelled to bring it into the wiki. Anyways, have a look and let me know. Thanks again for any help you can give. --Wast0id 19:59, 20 January (CST)

The Arms is still under attack from the wonderful group Malton Maulers. We have continued to battle for the area and will now go all out for it and have broken into the Arms daily. Is that what you find so offensive Wastoid? Liberty 07:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think this is his problem. I removed it before I actually saw this because it was POV on a neutral page. --Pestolence^(talk) 20:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

--Yes, thank you Pestolence, that was exactly my problem. And I expect more of the same from this user in the future and was hoping someone in authotity would set him straight. As I said previously, I simply wish he would keep his in-game grudge in the game, or at least on his own group page. --Wast0id 18:44, 21 January 2009 (CST)

If he continues to slander your group, contact him on his talk page and ask him to stop, and if he continues (or if you've already asked him to stop and he's ignored you), take him to arbitration. --Pestolence^(talk) 02:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Uranium

BOMBS--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 02:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Read's ban

Time for an open discussion regarding the "it is expected that a system operator be prepared to reverse a warning/ban should the community desire it" section of this policy do you think? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 09:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

What makes you think the community does desire it? The only people contesting it at all number like 4. --Cyberbob 12:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That would be why we'd have an Open Discussion. I'm pretty sure I can find some people that would support it. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That depends on how low on the IQ range you'e prepared to go. --Cyberbob 13:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I would vote to keep the ban which means you will have Bobs support as he can't ever be seen to side with me these days. --Honestmistake 13:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

You keep bringing me into your comments honest, do you have a crush or something? If so take it elsewhere... I hear there are corners of the internet dedicated to that sort of thing. --Cyberbob 14:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

touché... but i already removed that comment as i felt it a little unfair.--Honestmistake 14:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

xbox live or myspace? ;) --xoxo 02:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Is anyone else amused by the fact that he doesn't know that he can't unban people through meatpuppeting a vote? It's been tried before and over-ruled by the appropriate party. --Karek^maps?! 08:10, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

then whys it in the policy?--xoxo 00:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Because we don't update policies every time Kevan steps in and says differently. There needs to be some legitimacy to giving the user a second chance for such a thing to actually be done, and then only in the more extreme cases is it even likely. Cases like Amazing or Izumi, not any case Iscariot seems to think this is valid for(as I'm sure you know well which those will obviously be). And I'm sure we all know by this point Iscariot is just doing this now to try and cause drama so he can scream about how biased the sysops are regardless of whether he is correct in the slightest, he's not trying to get Read's ban revoked or even claiming what happened to him was unfair, those are irrelevant to his point. --Karek^maps?! 02:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone notice that it's fine when Karek likes a mass of support, but meatpuppeting when it's something he doesn't? Odd that... -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Signature

I'm not after drama, but I'm asking if you'd change your signature back to J3D, please. Thanks. ~ extropymine ^{Talk | NW | 4Corners} 09:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

hows that for compromise? --xoxo 03:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

You used the N word? :| --Janus ^talk 14:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Y helo thar

There's an important thingy over here --> this bit, that you should have a look at. We're at 14 votes but we need 20 for a proper majority. Your time and energy will be rewarded with cookies and mudkips (if u liek dat sort of ting) =) -- Cheese 21:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:)

Can you please refrain from vouching a single candidate MULTIPLE times? Please? :/ --Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 00:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

If you can refrain from showing nothing but blatent disregard for the rules of this talkpage ;) --xoxo 00:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh...

You're still around. When are you gonna give up on this shit and go back to Nationstates? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

fuck nationstates.--xoxo 00:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

booyah!--xoxo 00:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, i'm not sure if i'm replying to you right, i answered your question on my page but i'm still learning here. I am everything zombie, i opened that account/page by mistake under the wrong name. I wanted one for Drunkmonkey, which i opened and have been working on today. Feel free to delete the everything zombie page and account as i won't be using it thank you. Derek (http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Drunkmonkey)

ALiM template

Are you happy with it? Cause if I fix it from overlapping the text, I have to use the flagbox template which doesn't make it look as good. the LUL isn't as big, which really detracts from the.. LUL, you know? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:45, 5 April 2009 (BST)

I like it how it is(and i luuuurve the colour scheme) i can deal if the lul gets smaller tho. stuff happens.--xoxo 07:54, 5 April 2009 (BST)

I'll leave it then, I think the original is the best, D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:26, 5 April 2009 (BST)

Vandal Banning

I almost laughed a vital organ off. LulZ'LoLz--Thadeous Oakley 15:27, 6 April 2009 (BST)

User:DanceDanceRevolution/status/game

Just for you. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:49, 8 April 2009 (BST)

Plus, if you don't vouch the Eastwood Museum, I won't vouch ALiM for good article status. Tit for tat. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:23, 11 May 2009 (BST)

It just makes me think of the suburb of Eastwood, which fyi is a dump. But you sure do know how to treat a girl, so you're on.--xoxo 05:32, 12 May 2009 (BST)

Yeah, Eve told me she hated Eastwood. She calls it Eastwoo for some reason. Is that a Sydney thing? Btw, come for a sysop party soon? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:31, 30 May 2009 (BST)

Nah i just call it eastwood...and yeah i've got a 3 day block off later in june so we can get fucked up alim style.--xoxo 07:18, 31 May 2009 (BST)

I dig.--Nallan (Talk) 04:39, 1 June 2009 (BST)

Come watch a buce match, too. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:04, 1 June 2009 (BST)

Hurry up and put Eastwood on ALiM!!! Before you get banned! ;D D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:25, 8 June 2009 (BST)

Theres not some underground movement to have me permaed brewing is there?--xoxo 10:01, 10 June 2009 (BST)

Warning

Please do not shout offensive names on admin pages on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:52 8 June 2009 (BST)

And again -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:28 9 June 2009 (BST)

Gimme another stop hand. lazy cunt.--xoxo 09:57, 10 June 2009 (BST)

u relly need 2 do smethin about dat temper --Cyberbob 10:00, 10 June 2009 (BST)

maybz l8a.--xoxo 10:02, 10 June 2009 (BST)

Oh i forgot the bit where i'm only making these edits to get up to 500 in the next 2 months.--xoxo 10:04, 10 June 2009 (BST)

hmmm thanks for giving me an idea for a policy proposal --Cyberbob 10:35, 10 June 2009 (BST)

I r supa srs now. Good luck on getting that upper-middle management job, bob.--CyberRead240 17:30, 12 June 2009 (BST)

I can't actually take credit for it, i got it off Conn (see SA's talk), good luck with a coherent policy on the issue though...in the end who gives a fuck? Most people will either make the 250 in a month or just not get another warning anytime soon anyway, or get more bans til they leave the wiki, for the remaining about 2 people, just let them be.--xoxo 05:06, 13 June 2009 (BST)

I wouldn't worry about it so much - I'm in the middle of midyears at the moment and can't be bothered. --Cyberbob 06:16, 13 June 2009 (BST)

Here, have 2 -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 10:51 10 June 2009 (BST)

lol

qq bitch --Cyberbob 12:21, 21 June 2009 (BST)

see if you can beat 3 months.--xoxo 12:23, 21 June 2009 (BST)

I already did - I was a sysop from May 2006 through to May 2007. suck it --Cyberbob 12:27, 21 June 2009 (BST)

Was your demotion scandalous and awesome though?--xoxo 12:30, 21 June 2009 (BST)

nah - I got tricked into putting myself up for review and at that point promotion bids pretty much were votes. people are whiny babies so I got da boot --Cyberbob 12:35, 21 June 2009 (BST)

I see. Votes better than 2 randoms just decide. The whole process is largely pointless...--xoxo 12:37, 21 June 2009 (BST)

May I introduce you to the principles of representative democracy? Linkthewindow  Talk  12:39, 21 June 2009 (BST)

I'm from NSW, i'm familiar with it and i hate it.--xoxo 12:44, 21 June 2009 (BST)

That's why there aren't only two candidates for crat elections, like there are in elections in our state (I'm from NSW too.) Also:

"Democracy is the worst form of government. It's simply better then all the others that have been tried" - Winston Churchill. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:46, 21 June 2009 (BST)

That misquote is contradictory... :P It's "democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried" -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:59 21 June 2009 (BST)

you might want to take some time to learn about politics before thinking you know enough to have a valid opinion about it hth --Cyberbob 12:51, 21 June 2009 (BST)

You should be less lame.--xoxo 12:54, 21 June 2009 (BST)

yes. I should be less lame than getting drunk while online instead of partying with my friends as well as getting online while being hungover rather than being hungover at a mate's place where I've crashed after a night out
i'm definitely lamer than that right now; i should lift my game --Cyberbob 13:00, 21 June 2009 (BST)

lol --Pestolence^(talk) 22:00, 21 June 2009 (BST)

vote is infinitely worse than 2 randoms because then meatpuppetry enters into the equation and people are still pretty whiny babies who don't know how to make userpages let alone know who should and should not be a sysop --Cyberbob 12:41, 21 June 2009 (BST)

Time to Vote!

I found a building I thought would be a good addition to the ELiM list. Go to the ELiM talk page to vote on whether The Gumm Building should be added. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 13:00, 30 June 2009 (BST)

nicks drunk promotion bid

is there really no way to read it? i wanna read it so bad. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:53, 1 July 2009 (BST)

It's a shame it wasn't archived properly. It should've been put under Unsuccessful Promotions Candidacies or something. It just got deleted and I think someone got a/vbed. P.S. Just checked and it was me.--Nallan (Talk) 04:55, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Good thing you checked, I thought it was someone else. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:50, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Zing. But it was at Curley's house so I was expecting to see his account appear somewhere.--Nallan (Talk) 06:30, 2 July 2009 (BST)

ooohk. everything was done at Curleys house amirite? ;) D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:34, 2 July 2009 (BST)

most things. except blowjobs, obviously.--Nallan (Talk) 06:47, 2 July 2009 (BST)

I was just on #batshit relaying the story of how we went to that tech store in jesmond and used a display iphone to buy brain rot for table. good times. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:51, 2 July 2009 (BST)

lol. just wanted to get in on this convo

oh and bj's can happen at curleys house, if i'm not mistaken 2 of the womens live there.--xoxo 22:16, 2 July 2009 (BST)

getting beejays from internets
the height of desperateness? i would say yes --Cyberbob 22:22, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Wut? curleys house is a real place bob....--xoxo 22:25, 2 July 2009 (BST)

nooooo relllyyy??? my question to you is would you know about curleys house without internet --Cyberbob 22:28, 2 July 2009 (BST)

yes. i knew about it since before broadband was invented...--xoxo 22:30, 2 July 2009 (BST)

well i knew about it since before even the whole internet was invented........ --Cyberbob 22:39, 2 July 2009 (BST)

dayem.--xoxo 00:29, 3 July 2009 (BST)

yeh it was like infinity years ago so you probly wouldnt know what that was like --Cyberbob 00:35, 3 July 2009 (BST)

Good recovery.--Nallan (Talk) 01:08, 3 July 2009 (BST)

hello? hello? i cant hear you speak directly into the receiver --Cyberbob 01:17, 3 July 2009 (BST)

No I want the last word!--Nallan (Talk) 01:24, 3 July 2009 (BST)

Warning

Please do not post on the A/VB main page when you are uninvolved in the case on this wiki. If you continue this behaviour, your editing privileges will be revoked. This is your last warning. --Cyberbob^{POST HERE} 11:09, 15 July 2009 (BST)

This verdict has been overruled and the warning stuck. -- Cheese 14:26, 17 July 2009 (BST)

Ban

You have been banned from editing this wiki for 24 hours for vandalism. --Cyberbob 15:28, 16 July 2009 (BST)

This ruling has been overruled and the ban overturned. -- Cheese 14:27, 17 July 2009 (BST)

ban?

well it looks like they at least saw sense on your case... i suspect my ban will stand but what the hey... its not like i didn't expect it :) --Honestmistake 01:52, 18 July 2009 (BST)

DDR was going to post "Phew J3D, lucky Honest saved you from that one. Shame he had to be banned because of it. but thought better of it because i clearly was not banned. Why? well that would be because in so many years of valid contribution to the wiki i have only ever faced 3 A/VB cases all but this one thrown out. Hmm guess that makes me the newest wikimartyr... --Honestmistake 02:33, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Lol! You fuckiing moron! Did you even read your own comment that I replied to? YOU called it a ban, hence why I had ban in italics, something you must have overlooked.

I gave up on arguing because you never give up, you fight to the death with the same fucked up, stupid points. I thought you'd bow down after Nubis didn't come to save you, but hey, looks like your desperation in saving your skin can surprise everyone. --ϑϑℜ 03:19, 18 July 2009 (BST)

el oh el pwnt?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:23, 18 July 2009 (BST)

One would think so. He wouldn't admit it. --ϑϑℜ 03:45, 18 July 2009 (BST)

yo

Please don't submit Image:2cola.jpg for SD. I want to use it as an example when I put 0x0 images up for scheduled deletions. What did you upload to make it come up as 0x0? --ϑϑℜ 14:54, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Ah i'm half asleep and i forgot how to make a bmp a jpg so i just changed the file name which turns out doesn't work :P So maybe you get a 0x0 if you try uploading any bmp? --xoxo 14:55, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Yeah, thanks. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a problem on my end before submitting it as a scheduled. ty. --ϑϑℜ 14:58, 28 July 2009 (BST)

np.--xoxo 15:02, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Image:2cola.jpg - FTFY --  RoosterDragon  18:02, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Heh, thanks but i already made Image:2cola.JPG and if you read the above DDR wanted that kept as an example or something...--xoxo 02:55, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I reverted it. Hope you don't mind. --ϑϑℜ 03:04, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Nvm. I didn't know you cited the fix in your scheduling vote so I put it back. --ϑϑℜ 03:06, 29 July 2009 (BST)

hay ur not an stysops. u r an x sysops. quit lyin yo--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:04, 1 August 2009 (BST)

i had teh exact same templat on 4 da hole tiem i wasnt an sysops. Cyberbob  Talk  04:09, 1 August 2009 (BST)

thats cause you never edit yyour page so it doesn't show up on the recent changes. faeget.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:23, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Guys, guys. I'm sorry but the spelling and grammar here is just atrocious. Please clean up your act.--Nallan (Talk) 07:51, 2 August 2009 (BST)

nou-- High Overlord and Lead Conspirator of the Administrative Rebellion. Want help? 16:33, 2 August 2009 (BST)

birthfagday

is it alim's 2nd yet? --ϑϑℜ 10:41, 4 August 2009 (BST)

first, what's a birthfagday? and second, no - it's on the 2nd of october.--Nallan (Talk) 11:51, 4 August 2009 (BST)

as an overrated singersongwriter once said, "The times they are'a changin'"--CyberRead240 14:50, 7 August 2009 (BST)

how are they changing? --xoxo 14:57, 7 August 2009 (BST)

Well considering the Earth is in a constant state of evolution and change, it is impossible for that quote to be ever inaccurate.--CyberRead240 02:21, 8 August 2009 (BST)

Warning

Please do not impersonate sysops on this wiki. If you continue this behaviour, your editing privileges will be revoked. This is your last warning. Cyberbob  Talk  01:18, 13 August 2009 (BST)

You really need to stop telling me it's my last warning. It sounds so, final...--xoxo 02:04, 13 August 2009 (BST)

It's the template's fault. Cyberbob  Talk  02:53, 13 August 2009 (BST)

YOU

ARE GOD--Shakey ^BBK 12:46, 16 August 2009 (BST)

i know right --xoxo 01:16, 26 August 2009 (BST)

Sysops

I thought you were a sysops nigger? And you and cyberbob were best butt buddies?--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 10:35, 23 August 2009 (BST)

I was, until early january :\ --xoxo 00:45, 25 August 2009 (BST)

Wat happen--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 00:49, 25 August 2009 (BST)

Conspiracy. Nubis organised my sacking during the new year period when i wasn't checking the wikiz :( --xoxo 00:51, 25 August 2009 (BST)

What? Nubis got you demoted? Har har. Specifically for what?--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 01:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)

Drunk wiki editing. Not towing the party line. Usual reasons ;) --xoxo 01:03, 25 August 2009 (BST)

HAH. So what happen with you and cyberbob?--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 01:43, 25 August 2009 (BST)

I hate lemons. Jed's just a wee bit too bitter. Cyberbob  Talk  03:41, 25 August 2009 (BST)

I didn't know there was ever anything between us? --xoxo 00:37, 26 August 2009 (BST)

The Sysop template

So I hear you still have it on there. Please take it down as per the warning you were issued or I will do it for you. Cyberbob  Talk  09:18, 28 August 2009 (BST)

omfg

So happy bob permabanned this "buzz killington" thinking it was one of you two, or one of the bbk. I can feel a massive misconduct coming on if anyone decides to take it further. What I am saying is, please take it further.--CyberRead240 05:53, 29 August 2009 (BST)

fucking lol hey.--Nallan (Talk) 09:02, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Ciggies

Good god man, make the link to your user page findable, ffs -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:48 2 September 2009 (BST)

He's had it like that for a week or so. And this signature should only be up for 24 hours, right? ;) --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:09, 2 September 2009 (BST)

Well the ALaMe one was at least preceded by some non-link stuff, but was bad enough... this is another level again. He just keeps pushing on the boundary until someone can be bothered to react -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:28 2 September 2009 (BST)

Fair enough- he's the one who will be VB'd so I don't really care. I just think for a day-long fag celebration, just let him have his giggles. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:30, 2 September 2009 (BST)

I put my cursor on the main part, and it underlined all but the exclamation mark, so then i clicked on the exclamation mark, and it bought me here!!--CyberRead240 13:02, 2 September 2009 (BST)

Also, your name is coxy--CyberRead240 13:02, 2 September 2009 (BST)

*you're ;) --xoxo 13:41, 2 September 2009 (BST)

TAKING YOU TO A/A FOR WINKING OMG--CyberRead240 13:46, 2 September 2009 (BST)

USING CAPS TO HILARIOUSLY RIDICULE BY LAMPOONING A PERCEIVED "ANGER" WHILE TOTALLY GETTING ALL PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE UP IN THIS SHIT BY MEANS OF HUMOUROUSLY EXAGGERATING AN ENEMY'S POST AT THE SAME TIME Cyberbob  Talk  14:02, 2 September 2009 (BST)

You are WAY to easy these days--CyberRead240 14:17, 2 September 2009 (BST)

last word Cyberbob  Talk  14:18, 2 September 2009 (BST)

nah uh--xoxo 14:18, 2 September 2009 (BST)

u mad?--CyberRead240 14:18, 2 September 2009 (BST)

You are WAY to easy these days Cyberbob  Talk  14:19, 2 September 2009 (BST)

Learn to spell, both of you. any more posts in this thread will be deleted and i might take you to a/vb. unless its not bob or read.--xoxo 14:21, 2 September 2009 (BST)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! that is all.--Nallan (Talk) 14:31, 2 September 2009 (BST)

I'm special, special, so special, special. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:35, 2 September 2009 (BST)

You

Are that fucking inconsistent on FB and IRC and any chat medium. I cannot work out your patterns m'lday--CyberRead240 10:01, 4 September 2009 (BST)

I'm on from 1pm til 6pm. And i'll sign into msn now just for you. But don't fucking facebook chat me coz my compy can't handle it :( --xoxo 04:04, 5 September 2009 (BST)

Nam nam, bra!nz!!!

You tasted good. --WanYao 01:46, 5 September 2009 (BST)

You have all been rolled

You are all my muppets! I am your muppetmaster. JIM HENSON IS ALIVE!!!

As of December 24, 2012 I shall control all the accounts of 2 Cool. ALiM is/will be MINE! --WanYao 06:13, 11 September 2009 (BST)

Arbitration

Has started. Please proceed here --Thadeous Oakley 23:35, 11 September 2009 (BST)

Uhh, thanks I guess. By the way, shouldn't it be "nicknames given by 2 Cool", instead of "given to 2 Cool"?--Thadeous Oakley 00:01, 12 September 2009 (BST)

No because you gave them to us, they aren't given by us.--xoxo 00:06, 12 September 2009 (BST)

Oh sorry, I get it, misunderstood for a sec.--Thadeous Oakley 00:18, 12 September 2009 (BST)

Category:Group Subpages

Revert it again and I'll put up an A/VB case against you. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:00, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Link me plox to the policy where it says i have to allow you to categorise my group subpages, then compliance you shall receive.--xoxo 06:03, 12 October 2009 (BST)

The policy on bad faith where refusing administrative edits on 'your' page that benefits the maintenance of the wiki, from one user, simply to create unnecessary trauma and irritation. You can find the link yourself, I have no obligation to find a link to justify what I'm doing. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:51, 12 October 2009 (BST)

You have every obligation to present evidence for your assertion. I provide the following link, which ensures that a group may control the content of their page excepting a NPOV lead-in paragraph. A category, by definition, is not part of a prose paragraph and is therefore not covered by this exemption. I await this 'policy' on 'refusing administrative edits', the wording of which is straying close to using the administration status as a badge of authority. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:02, 12 October 2009 (BST)

And while you're there, you might want to run an IP check on User:Insane1, voting on one suggestion and not the other up for voting during a first edit seems suspicious to me. It won't be enough to sway the vote but is probably worth checking out. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:05, 12 October 2009 (BST)

It wasn't his first edit at all. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:10, 12 October 2009 (BST)

I seem to have omitted the "in the suggestions system" portion of that sentence. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:20, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Hardly. Anyone can do administrative edits. I only have the obligation to present evidence if I take him to A/VB. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:08, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Indeed, anyone can, but editing here repeatedly quoting some policy you don't present for review and then expecting a user who has clear ownership of the page (as I have presented) seems inconsistent to a good faith approach. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:20, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Read the policy document, it is as consistent in defending J3D as it would save any bad faith action a user makes in his own space; Groups, for the most part, have sole property of their Group page on the wiki is an example, nothing in the policy is black and white, it allows for exceptions to the ownership clause, and I assume none of what is in that policy will defend J3D against the blanket ruling of "bad faith". J3D has also specified that he only gives a shit about me adding the category (something I do daily to every page on the wiki) onto the subpage, and you expect people to believe I'm acting in bad faith? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:34, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Given the fact that you admit there's bad faith between the two of you, the good faith response would be to leave it alone and not incite drama as you are doing by threatening vandalism rulings. Why don't you see if someone else will apply it? And answer me this, what does the wiki lose, or in what way is it harmed by this lack of category? It may appease your sense of CDO, but does nothing to assist the wiki in general or even help important pages, you know, like A/VD which you seem perfectly happy to leave in a false manner. Your comment on 'doing it everyday' I hope is incorrect as well given that's not the category that should be going on there either. And you've still yet to produce this 'policy' you harp on about. I've provided mine and am quite happy that the statement that groups may control the content of the page sufficient to cover this, or we'd be having massive drama wars on this when the Malton Marshalls were added to Category:PKer Groups. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 08:16, 12 October 2009 (BST)

1. I never once said there was any bad faith on my end. 2. Look below. I already did suggest someone else do it, but at the moment he hasn't even reverted it. 3. Get your head out of your arse and stop pressing fallacies like I "need" a "policy" that says we can warn users for bad faith, you parasitical moron. 4. Specialpages like the one involved in this is specifically called a "maintenance page" by Mediawiki, hence of course it is an important part of maintenence. And in response to your lack of concern for anything less than an "important page", look at A/D and see your fucked up stance on "unimportant pages" yourself, and see who has the double standards here. 5. Don't say I have OCD because at leased my case of it goes towards a greater good, rather than your unfulfilling and pestering belief that you were brought on this earth to shit people off with your 'holy' ways. 6. You are the only user unhappy with the A/VD edits so shut the fuck up and actually consider that your opinion on them probably shouldn't be treated as the be-all of truth on this wiki.

So actually consider what you are doing just now, Iscariot, you are watching a little shit-stirrer try and mess with the only thing on this wiki that shouldn't generally be messed with, Mediawiki maintenance, no doubt waiting for this to flip out of control (thanks to a certain meddling user, you, moreso than me) and then cry vendetta if he actually gets punished for his immature, counter-productive, butthurt and overall unnecessary behaviour. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:32, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Wait, you want to go into a barrage of obscenities and then try and appeal to my sense of reason. Your 'productive' CDO may be clouding your logic. Given that the majority of your emotional tirade belongs on other pages, the only one I'll respond to is that concerning A/VD, there is a problem, it's not opinion, it's fact based on the escalations policy. Boxy's actions are no different to Nubis' that caused the situation. Given you are a sysop and one of the few users able to rectify the problem I'd be considerably more impressed if you applied your energies to that rather than engage in this case of edit warring, drama stirring and vandalism threatening over an inconsequential page.

Finally, I didn't start the policy here, you did. And I quote "The policy on bad faith where refusing administrative edits on 'your' page that benefits the maintenance of the wiki, from one user, simply to create unnecessary trauma and irritation. You can find the link yourself, I have no obligation to find a link to justify what I'm doing. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:51, 12 October 2009 (BST) " You have made a claim, the burden of proof is always on the claimant. I'm simply asking you to prove what you have said. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 08:43, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Sorry. I read the first sentence and stopped indefinitely, learn that I have no intention of appealing to your sense of anything, full stop. I no longer have an interest in this, and hence I have no more interest in arguing with you. Unlike yourself, users like Boxy at leased have initiative in fixing problems rather than inflaming them, so I consider this topic closed and I'm treating it as such. Bleat to someone new. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:02, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Why is it so hard for you to provide a link to something you say exists? Is it so hard for a sysop on this wiki to demonstrate their own claims? Or have you just started inventing policies like Hagnat used to? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:38, 13 October 2009 (BST)

I just had a read through the vandalism policy (because none of the others are really relevant here), and there isn't anything about this type of edit. The situation isn't helped by the vagueness of the policy. The only thing that the policy actually DOES say about it is that they should go to Arbies, which we all know would be a pointless waste of time. There's nothing about admin edits, there's nothing about user page rights over-ruling the advancement of the wiki. Neither side is covered by policy, but, as Iscariot noted, the burden of proof IS unfortunately on the claimant.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 07:52, 13 October 2009 (BST)

Why is it so hard for you to understand that after what I want is fixed, I have no intention of arguing with you? I have no, NO interest in continuing this once someone has stepped in a mediated this issue and since Boxy has, I have absolutely no interest in continuing the argument. Learn to actually care for the wiki rather than fix your desire to cause trouble and 'show up' the sysops. I'm the one with OCD, by the way. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:22, 13 October 2009 (BST)

And by the way, shut the fuck up now, will you? Second last clause. we have the authority to destroy any value in the effort to crust "Bad Faith", ie. the umbrella ruling that can theoretically serve any purpose in aid of ridding of loopholes in the wiki. Deal with it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:22, 13 October 2009 (BST)

No, that's not what you said. You said "The policy on bad faith where refusing administrative edits on 'your' page that benefits the maintenance of the wiki, from one user, simply to create unnecessary trauma and irritation. You can find the link yourself, I have no obligation to find a link to justify what I'm doing. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:51, 12 October 2009 (BST) ". Please show me the "policy on bad faith", not the section on sysop conduct guidelines put in there for emergency situations. Please give me a link to the policy that you claimed exist that explicitly states a user cannot "(refuse) administrative edits on 'your' page that benefits the maintenance of the wiki". Please show how the sentence "You can find the link yourself, I have no obligation to find a link to justify what I'm doing" in any way shows good faith on your part and acceptable conduct on your part. If not (and I don't think you can) then you have now become the new version of Hagnat, claiming policy where none exists and then falling back "I can do it because I is sysops and teh guidelines say I can so I'm not listening to you". -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:42, 14 October 2009 (BST)

No, you shut the fuck up because an Admin document that supports what I say. You honestly don't get it do you? You make me sick with your personal harrassment, and you really can't take a hint. So much for sucking my cock to have any chance of being a sysop, yes? And now it'll turn into a "Boxy and DDR are BOTH to immature to consider me for sysop" story now. I can't wait. Conversation closed a day ago, learn to read. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:02, 14 October 2009 (BST)

You see, that's the difference, I'm not telling you to stop talking. I'm asking you to provide the policy you claim existed in the beginning. You can't, and the guidelines do not back you up on this. You cannot claim that a condition put in to prevent harm to the wiki entitles you to engage in an edit war with a user you aren't getting along with. Own up, apologise to J3D for saying there was such a policy when they're isn't and then the conversation is over. How hard is it? I'm not sure where this idea about me going for sysop came from, but as you well know there are only three users I will accept a nomination from, and two are inactive. Don't believe me? Go nominate me right now like Anime did and watch how quickly it gets archived. However none of this changes the fact that you were claiming a policy that doesn't exist, you were using your status as a sysop to attempt to get your own way and that you are now running to what should be an emergency condition for when the wiki is subject to extreme disruption to garnish your error with some semblance of credibility. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:16, 14 October 2009 (BST)

Wait, what? For all I know, it could exist in 50,000 policy documents and you could be bluffing for all I care, I never actually looked to verify the claim. You know why? It was a figure of speech, hence the bolding of Bad Faith to outline what he would have been banned for. Obviously you knew this because you aren't a moron but you are such a parasite in that way you behave that the thought wouldn't pass me by, that you pretend to think that I'm using my sysop status as a badge for anything, when rather it is more my status as an actual member of the community, whereas you are just a little piddling child who will struggle to find one logical fallacy in an argument he has nothing to do with, then bounce in, using it as the doomsday weapon of the decade. Say what you want after this, I won't be replying to your cesspit-creating nonsense. The page is fixed, you are not. I'm fulfilled. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:36, 14 October 2009 (BST)

So we have "The policy on bad faith where refusing administrative edits on your page that benefits the maintenance of the wiki, from one user, simply to create unnecessary trauma and irritation. You can find the link yourself, I have no obligation to find a link to justify what I'm doing. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:51, 12 October 2009 (BST) " where you state there is a policy and there is a link to be found, contrasted with "For all I know, it could exist in 50,000 policy documents and you could be bluffing for all I care, I never actually looked to verify the claim." where there isn't a policy and you didn't even look before demanding a user leave your preferred edit to his owned page. You can quibble about semantics and logical fallacies all you want. You lied. You lied to try and get your own way and won't even have the good grace and dignity to apologise to J3D for this. "that you pretend to think that I'm using my sysop status as a badge for anything" Erm, you were the one who just tried to claim that the Sysop Guidelines were applicable in making you right, you can't invoke them if you're being a normal user. Therefore you're either trying to use your status to get your own way (as evidenced by invoking the clause in the sysop guidelines) or you're trying to get your own way by inventing a new policy/quoting one that can in no way apply. Which is it?

I further note that you in no way continue to try and paint me as having promotion prospects since you do not appear to have put up a nomination. Another attempt to divert attention from what's happened here failing? I think so. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:54, 14 October 2009 (BST)

I actually think you guys might have found the pettiest possible thing to threaten each other with A/VB over. Just take it to Arby's or something and be done with it because I don't think anybody really believes they're going to convince the other side of their argument. Cyberbob  Talk  07:26, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Arbie's isn't needed in regards to the maintenence of the wiki, only over its content. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:34, 12 October 2009 (BST)

It can quite literally be about whatever you want it to be about. That's the whole point. Cyberbob  Talk  08:01, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Fair enough. But the point of this isn't to make a large amount of drama, which is why I'm making this simple: If he reverts it, I'll ask someone to just put it there themselves and hopefully he'll keep it up there, considering he's stated numerous times that he's only interested in keeping me off the page, not some random user who has similar intentions. If he reverts that, he can go to A/VB for all I care. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:08, 12 October 2009 (BST)

/section, thanks to boxy. I no longer have any desire to pursue this at the current time. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:37, 12 October 2009 (BST)

Someone wanna bring me up to date on what the fuck has happened? In the meantime i'm rereverting charlies edit.--xoxo 17:01, 13 October 2009 (BST)

oh wow boxy did, was that what his a/m case was for? If so epic,. i might go check now..brb--xoxo 17:05, 13 October 2009 (BST)

Witch Hunt

I have been wiki absent for a couple of days due to other shit so I had a look through the archive to see what happened with boxys misconduct and I decided to read up on this. I really do feel for you dude, the way those who didn't want you in in the first place twisted and turned all of it just to get you demoted, when the original misconduct case was brought about 1 thing only.... You really did get the hard end of this stick and I am not posting this out of butthurt, I just hope others go back and have a look at some of the actions of the people in there and despite their opinion of you, maybe form some opinions on the poor form of some of the current admin team in this time.--CyberRead240 07:23, 13 October 2009 (BST)

Box is the only current admin that had any sort of authority in that anyway, so why rag on them? And it's weird, and it's hard for people who know Jed and Nick IRL to fathom (trust me), but it's actually a common truth that somehow Nick always did have access to Jed's account, so if you actually think about it from their point of view, it has its grounds, no matter how ridiculous it seems to you and me. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:26, 13 October 2009 (BST)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Cyberbob  Talk  10:41, 13 October 2009 (BST)

get some original material bob, I hahaha'd you off the ballpark the other day when you pulled your cannons on DDR, you arent very useful hey....And DDR, no, it isnt about what access they had or WHY he got demoted, it is more about how the misconduct case was for one thing, and then escalated into a million other things that were completely irrelevant and basically the sysops opinion on whether Jed should be a Sop or not...not if he had committed misconduct with the act that Cyberfag brought to fruition. If people thought that Nick and Jed were sharing accounts or whatever, and no, I personally do not see a crime in sitting next to a sysop while he uses his account, then those people should have made a misconduct or demotions case with the appropriate information and proof at hand, rather than using an offbeat joke comment as an excuse to bring out the big guns and debate his worthyness. Regardless of if he was fit to be a sysop or not, when the case was brought forward for an off colour joke, and the sysops at hand decide they are going to bring forward unrelated things and then manipulate it into a vote for demotion, all over a joke that was laughed off by the first 3 sysops, then yeah, it is the definition of a witch hunt. Also you don't have to have been a sysop then to have been part of the Witch Hunt at hand, honestly. This wasn't even aimed at you it is just that Jed will check this now that they are in Thailand.--CyberRead240 12:01, 13 October 2009 (BST)

the tl;dr is that, the case wasnt about what Jed got demoted for, so basically it was a witch hunt from box and others, because they didnt have the authority that the crats who bought him into the team did, this was the only way to get him out without going through the proper avenues, ie the people who were elected to be Crats--CyberRead240 12:03, 13 October 2009 (BST)

tbh I saw it as no different as anything they pinged mighty Grim for in that misconduct case, and as a Sysop I think there is nothing wrong with calling (a vote for) demotion over long-term issues despite the one case being completely different... I know it sounds harsh and abusive but that's just how I see it, if you can be called for promotion at any time based on long-standing good efforts then the opposite shouldn't be totally shunned just because it's 'unfair'. Whether it should have been used for J3D is irrelevant (though I'm not surprised given the circumstances around his pm bid) but yes. More power to the hungry ops. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:43, 13 October 2009 (BST)

"Box is the only current admin that had any sort of authority in that anyway, so why rag on them?" The. General. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:46, 14 October 2009 (BST)

Though you are correct, I mostly just mean the major players in the demotion, the 'instigators'. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:14, 14 October 2009 (BST)

fair, at least something of worth comes out of you, which is more I can say for certain others--CyberRead240 13:11, 13 October 2009 (BST)

sexy you are the best poster on the whole wiki. serious. you own Cyberbob  Talk  12:47, 13 October 2009 (BST)

i reckon we should demote the cunt Cyberbob  Talk  12:51, 13 October 2009 (BST)

I don't have to be a good poster, I'm not a System Operator--CyberRead240 13:11, 13 October 2009 (BST)

neither do i, maggot Cyberbob  Talk  13:14, 13 October 2009 (BST)

I don't really know where your superiority complex comes from in life, I guess you get online and it is a world away from irl amirite?--CyberRead240 13:46, 13 October 2009 (BST)

whoa there with all the hemmin and the hawwin and the birdsong Cyberbob  Talk  13:52, 13 October 2009 (BST)

I found your youtube channel, you were sure it would be a secret hey? There are people who can help you bob. You are not alone out there, never alone. I wont help you though, you're too much of a fag for me to be associated with.--CyberRead240 14:02, 13 October 2009 (BST)

OH MY GOD how did you find itttttttttt Cyberbob  Talk  14:03, 13 October 2009 (BST)

i feel so exposed... nobody is safe from messr. Read's detectiv skillz Cyberbob  Talk  14:08, 13 October 2009 (BST)

*smug*--CyberRead240 14:11, 13 October 2009 (BST)

I personally do not see a crime in sitting next to a sysop while he uses his account, This made me LOL because that is why Nubis was demoted. At least Nubis and I were never accused of abusing check user... -- #99 ^DCC 16:24, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Untrue. Not only was jed demoted for stuff relating to that anyway, There was also evidence to support that you had permanent access to the nubis account from locations other than her/his own, something your initial claim entailed. Sheesh. You are actually a troll with all of these claims that you make, right? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 16:33, 22 October 2009 (BST)

those stupid groups that include people whom you know don't want to be a part of your shitty jokes

next time you make one of them you'll earn yourself an A/VB case Cyberbob  Talk  07:16, 17 October 2009 (BST)

well considering it's not vandalism, I am sure you will earn one for shitting up the admin pages. Take him to A/A over it, so he can't make any groups like that again or something, but don't try and be an internet tuff guy now.--CyberRead240 11:06, 18 October 2009 (BST)

wrong! but thanks anyways Cyberbob  Talk  03:00, 19 October 2009 (BST)

Arbitration

An interim Ruling has been made.--Thadeous Oakley 10:58, 18 October 2009 (BST)

and so has my response.--xoxo 11:03, 18 October 2009 (BST)

hey duder thad made his final ruling. I'd like to "claim" that I'm not a part of the hate club so remove me from the page. cheers Cyberbob  Talk  12:36, 18 October 2009 (BST)

but you hate 2 Cool do you not? Anyway you shalt have compliance but i do think you belong there.xoxo 13:10, 18 October 2009 (BST)

Racist Flame

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you were making a good faith edit when you recently unloaded a slew of racial slurs. Actually, typing that sentence demonstrates the absurdity of it. Particularly in the context of the the group page, where you commented, your flame is in poor taste, to put it mildly. Do you agree?

Rather than make a vandalism case out of it, I'd like to give you an opportunity to make a brief and sincere retraction alongside your original comment. Or at the very least, use this space to explain your reasoning behind making such an edit.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 02:20, 19 October 2009 (BST)

he was pretty clearly being ironic, hope this helps. Cyberbob  Talk  02:59, 19 October 2009 (BST)

Might as well add yourself. Now. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:02, 19 October 2009 (BST)

lmao Cyberbob  Talk  03:08, 19 October 2009 (BST)

well done good sir.xoxo 05:03, 19 October 2009 (BST)

Its a talk page, i'm allowed to be racist and yeah, ask bob why i say things next time, he seems to know.xoxo 05:03, 19 October 2009 (BST)

If we ever get around to that TOS bullshit you might not be! bloop bloop bloop -- SA 07:23, 19 October 2009 (BST)

Done. And I love using "irony" as an excuse to vent all the crap you wish you could say in public. Yeh that was cutting edge humor there. But like you said, it's the internet and you're allowed to be a racist. *golf clap* --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 11:37, 19 October 2009 (BST)

I don't think you quite get what irony is. Cyberbob  Talk  12:09, 19 October 2009 (BST)

Yeh yeh yeh definition 1a. I get it. But I don't buy it, particularly as an excuse. It has become all too commonplace for people say something indefensible and then claim irony as their defense. Example: "You're such a fucking (insert racial slur). Durr haha I was being ironic don't get upset."

Also, while we're on the subject, irony is more that the dictionary definition, and there is a difference between sarcasm and irony. And there's a BIG difference between using irony to demonstrate the absurdity of an idea or argument, and the way cybertrolls use racial slurs without being able to articulate what they think they're being ironic about.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:08, 19 October 2009 (BST)

you think you're super astute but you're really not. Cyberbob  Talk  13:29, 19 October 2009 (BST)

Nu uh. YOU!NOU--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 14:18, 19 October 2009 (BST)

fix'd-- SA 14:53, 19 October 2009 (BST)