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Rule the Third

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Permabanned Users

So it seems that members of the team are open to reviewing previous vandal banning cases in order to bring them up to date with this policy. Does this work for you, or do you have any comments that you would like to make? --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 20:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Two Things

Its regarding that arbitration case, need ya before it gets nasty. First, this: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Template:Ridleybankgroups Look at the history. Now, in some suburbs where Umbrella is active, one or two of our subgroups is active too so we place them under our name in the active group list as seen in Ridleybank (or Shearbank among others). We have been doing that for a long time now, long before any arb case. Since haliman uses the same acronym, UBCS, and even the same emblem he seems to want to separate that. I disagree. We are not going to adapt our subgroup list just because he is such a copying *******. If he wants to list his group so badly in Ridleybank then he will just have to place above or below ours. And then there will be two UBCS's listed in Ridleybank but he stays away from ours.

Second, at his group page it still says (under "Announcements") * Haliman has taken Airheadoh up on his offer and has taken over the UBCS. This is not hostile, as Haliman had the consent of Airheadoh. Sept. 27 The arb case proved that this is not true so I dont see any reason why it needs to stay.

I hope you want to help with this, I thank you for you time in advance.--Thadeous Oakley 09:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

If he wants to add his group to that page, he should do so without interfering with yours (or at the very least get his own emblem). On the second point, it's up to him what he puts on his page, but I will talk to him later on about it and ask that he changes that particular statement. -- C h e e s e 17:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Cheese is vile???

I had no idea you felt that way... ;) --x o x o 13:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?

This guy has one of those annoying fake orange message bars on the top of his page. When someone clicks on it, they're logged out of the wiki, and this can be quite annoying when you're working on something in a different tab. Would I be justified in making a vandal report, since he doesn't seem to have been around since January? Is there a policy on malicious links anywhere? Thanks, --Pestolence^(talk) 18:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a malicious links policy but, this isn't normally considered covered under it.--Karek^maps?! 19:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I see. I've had a look at the policy pages and the only one that seems to prohibit malicious links is the one against malicious links in sigs. Could you direct me to the malicious links policy? or were you referring to the malicious signature policy? --Pestolence^(talk) 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Wasn't Finis or somebody warned way back when cause he had one of those? Or am I not thinking right...--/~Rakuen~\^Talk

I Still Love Grim 20:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That would be it I think, anything else is considered vandalism under bad faith. However we generally only consider malicious sites or links that crash the wiki vandalism. I know this specific thing has come up a few times in Vandal Banning and has always been ruled not vandalism, although it's annoying it's not really harmful.--Karek^maps?! 20:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Not vandalism? Er, I know for a fact that Special:Userlogout links in those orange bars have always been considered vandalism. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

You sure that wasn't just in signatures, 'cause I know it's definitely against the rules to link there but I can't remember us ever ruling it vandalism in the orange bars, I'm pretty sure there are actually still some pages with them.--Karek^maps?! 23:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion:20081027 Hello! Can you hear me?

You seemed positive about this on Developing Suggestions and its going to fail Peer reviewed as it stands by 1 vote. Any chance of you mucking in? --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 22:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Images

Hey, Cheese, I know there isn't a policy and radda radda, but when I go through the unused images I usually don't delete the "alternate" images for malls just in case they are actually used when the mall is taken. I also leave images that are just a month old alone just in case. There are always plenty after the deadline anyway that need to go. It's always so tempting to make an image ark when I go through them! --– Nubis ^NWO 03:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Dw he only deleted the pngs, theres jpgs of them all and Mall Images will save us all! --x o x o 03:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Much ta. =p I shall bear that in mind. -- C h e e s e 18:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

All PNGs of mall images are duplicates, the used versions should be in jpg format and are already image arked somewhere, I think in a subpage of Hagnat's.--Karek^maps?! 23:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Well we have a community page of it now, and it's happened before (with the jpg version) so yeah.--x o x o 00:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Erm, JPEG should really only be used for photos. Unless the JPEGs are the most original files available and nobody has access to source materials used to create them, PNG should be the technically superior choice. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

PNG for the win! I hate jpg! >=[ and PNG's can have transparency, oooooooooh D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

We have jpgs for all of them, if you wanna scrounge around for the pngs that might exist and add them to Mall Images feel free.--x o x o 14:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Few questions, actually only one, what are those little red exclamation marks in RC?--x o x o 00:01, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Patrolled Edits--Karek^maps?! 00:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone actually use it?--x o x o 03:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Not really, there's not much that would fit the category of things that should be marked as such unless we wanted to start patrolling for vandals by marking non-vandal edits.--Karek^maps?! 18:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Badges

Hey, Cheese... I was wondering if I could update some of the ops on the special ops page with links to the badges... just wanted to check with you first to see if it's cool... Lorddragonfang 05:54, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Soldier UDW

11/22/08: I have scraped the Z.E.M.A. Profile one for deletion because the name is too big to fit onto Graffiti in Urban Dead. I have made the ZEMA Profile one because the name is more smaller. Your supposed to delete the other one, not this one! -- 01:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

P.S. The plan was to create an article for Advertizement and User Profile uses so I created the ZEMA Profile one. The other one you have merged was auctully scrapped for deletion. And once I made the ZEMA Profile page, it then gets moved to Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile and I could still use the origonal name for it to all work. That was the plan! And you deleted the Z.E.M.A. Profile one but you duplicated it to make the Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile and sent the ZEMA Profile one for deletion which is the opposite. If this dosen't make sence then just delete both the Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile and the ZEMA Profile and then I will go back to Square One.

Drama and Propaganda

Hello. I've recently noticed that a certain user (http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Captain_Rickety) continues to write lies and negative propaganda against my group, and we do not like that. So, is there anything you can do against it? --ScouterTX 14:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==I do not Understand==

You left something on my talk page and I am not sure what it is or meanVenger 21:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Firetwigs my roomates character man. Venger 21:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

How strange. After successfully completing numerous headers on User:Venger/The Six Weapons of Power successfully, you make a mistake on this page. And not signing. thats a good touch. Thank goodness you know how to modify templates, upload images and sort out table code. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 21:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. And isn't this a coincidence? -- C h e e s e 21:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

And the fact that they are all vandals on there own merit doesn't help ether (not to mention all the anti-Saramu templates.) Linkthewindow Talk 21:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Aaaaaaaaaaand back it goes. =p -- C h e e s e 21:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I was in a hurry to post. No need to go down my throat man. Venger 21:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed that. Also noted the similar flaws on pages,

leaving a space at the beginning of lines. It happens a couple of times on Firetwigs page.

That and the fact the edit histories of the socks fill in the gaps of each other? Still. Might be coincidence. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 21:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't follow. 'Leaving a space at the beginning of lines?" Venger 21:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I think he is talking about suttle little habits in your editing that you share with Firetwig. Linkthewindow Talk 21:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Things

Please see the vandal banning page (latest add). Karek provided help but I'd like your response as the arbitrator, if possible.--Thadeous Oakley 00:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Users?

Hi there. I was wondering, do the users listed on User:Light_Master really exist? Or I should place those pages in the Speedy Deletion Queue? --Janus ^talk 23:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

You can check yourself. Click their link then check if User contributions is a button on the left and has any edits in it. If it does, it's real. If not, it's fake.--x o x o 23:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Already checked. They do exist. He's created accounts for them all so that means even more to keep an eye on. We can't ban them without him committing vandalism since I'm pretty sure we don't have any rules against alt accounts. -- C h e e s e 23:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

On that, it really shouldn't matter considering he hasn't made an edit since October. =) -- C h e e s e 23:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I see. I checked the User Contribution page as J3D said, but only his main account and other three (User:Super_Fast, User:Vince_Light, User:Ryan_Striker) "made edits". --Janus ^talk 23:33, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Like I said, he hasn't made any edits for about 2 months and I've made a list on my sandpit to keep track of them all just in case. So hopefully nothing to worry about. =) Thanks for pointing it out though. -- C h e e s e 23:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks! :) --Janus ^talk 23:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Cheezels is there a way to check if a user exists other than the edit check? If not, shouldn't the one's that haven't edited be deleted?--x o x o 00:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

User contributions is the fastest way, there's Special:Listusers, the user toolbox should also always have Email, Block, and User Contributions links. If they aren't there it's not a real user.--Karek^maps?! 01:29, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Does that list only show users who have made at least one edit?--x o x o 11:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

No, Listusers shows all accounts.--Karek^maps?! 19:29, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah k.--x o x o 00:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

User:JaredV

You asked about it on A/SD, so I'm his new account. Just wanted to let you know so you don't think I'm a meatpuppet or anything. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

This Soldier Guy

Who is this Soldier guy anyway? I've got someone telling me I'm Soldier, I'm not Soldier by the way. I've copied his organizing method and a few of his ways for my use, its no big deal. Really, who's Soldier since I keep asking people the same question over and over lately?

--Sergeant William Holt 02:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

He lives in your mirror, Sarge. --Pestolence^(talk) 02:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism (2)

Hi I would like to bring your attention on the SOS thread
my post was considered as vandalism,
as I when I saw the CZLG (Carreer Zombies Lobby Group(s)) completly flood the SOS page
I saw them overload with trolling
I saw they could keep put their post even above Table Of Contents during so long without anyone saying anything about it...
then I didnt erase anything
and only moved the pair of mock comments that were above the TOC at the bottom of the page
with their other similar comments that they spammed several times
then I put a comment that all that was the same
and it was cancelled... ok fine its vandalism so be it...
but look: I added a note with explanations about why their arguments were wrong
and insights about the situation with a link to my opininon
to not overload the page like the CZLG enjoyed to do with same arguments repeated over and over
and that comment was allowed to stay
But even that was removed afterwards by the CZLG !
They have several wiki members that are very active
and they felt like they could completely wipe out anything that doesnt please them
and remove any traces of other's right of expression !
Here is what I am talking about : http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:S.O.S.
and they keep putting their mock comments again above Table Of Contents:
rather than dealing with my opinion which I thought was demonstrating the flaws of their reasoning. Instead of debating, they just removed it completely with "00:22, 20 December 2008 The Hierophant (Talk | contribs) (Undo revision 1341004 by Special:Contributions/Sarkomance (User talk:Sarkomance) Vandalism mised in with retarded opinions.)" <- this user considers I dont even have the right to express myself, because he qualifies my opinions as "retarded" just because I dont think like him, is that a sign of his intelligence? Its the abuse I was denouncing ! They can blatantly flood with insulting comments or wipe out completely the others opinions and they silence the wiki minority groups or users. Is it fair in anyway?--Sarkomance 00:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

The reason you got reported for vandalism is because you moved the comments and attempted to place them under a new heading labelled retarded trolling or something to that effect. However you didn't format it correctly and made it seem as though Boxy had said that. That is seen as impersonation --> vandalism. However, you haven't been officially warned so don't worry too much about it. Just take care when moving stuff in future. That's all. -- C h e e s e 01:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

You

You never come on IRC ever you Scottish drunk (for the purpose of this conversation I have decided all Scottish people are drunks). Also Merry Christmas. --Kooks 23:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Too much work today

Sorry about that :) Thanks for moving/deleting those pages. I was wondering about Category:Blane Tracker. Should this and its subpages be moved to Blane's subspace? The template makes me confused..

Oh, feel free to send me to hell if I'm bothering you too much :) --Janus ^talk 21:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It's cool =p I'll figure this out. -- C h e e s e 21:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Could I erase the content of this page (since it's a dupe) and turn it into a redirect? --Janus ^talk 15:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Yup. =) Go ahead. -- C h e e s e 15:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --Janus ^talk 15:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy delete

Cheers! Also, that's what Malton needs, Dinosaurs? Also, for the cutting board, The Six Weapons of Power. _■^■ 03:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ur doing it wrong

I mispelt the RRF's name, so all those page's you just moved are now in the wrong namespace. Sorry, I shouldn't be up this late :(. Anyway, the corrected links are now at A/MR. Sorry! Linkthewindow Talk 13:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem. =p I'm doing this half asleep myself. And its half 1 in the afternoon here. -- C h e e s e 13:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Lol :). Thanks! It's half past the other twelve here :P. Linkthewindow Talk 13:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Blast. I did a mistake too :( Journal_of_Federationtrooper should have been moved to Journal:Federationtrooper, not to Journal:Coolpikaaa/Federationtrooper. However, that user already created a new page under the right name, so I'm placing bo th on A/SD. Sorry again :| --Janus ^talk 13:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Please sign the move thing, I was gonna move it myself but I didn't make a comment on it. Probably also best to keep the commentary down to a non-existant minimum when doing something like that.--Karek^maps?! 14:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. =) -- C h e e s e 14:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

You changed several links without notice on my group's wiki

Short version, you moved our PKer list and rules page without notification and screwed up several links in the process. Please let me know in the future when you do something like that or at the least update everything relevant instead of leaving me with the dirty surprise of multiple dead links.--Garviel Loken^{No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk}17:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I thought I'd got them all. =/ Must have missed a couple. -- C h e e s e 17:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Wanker

Could you start using {{banneduser}} rather than {{wanker}} in the future, please? It's technically a scheduled deletion (under the page titles containing swearing aimed at other users clause), but we don't really want to go there, as it will mean having to change all the pages that include the old template. Originally, it was only meant to be used on one guys alt pages, I think... but, y'know, I guess it was easy to remember, and stuff ;) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:06 1 January 2009 (BST)

Move Template

I seem to be having some issues with your new template. I fixed what I screwed up (finally). So don't panic if you see reverts and edits and duct tape and what not in the history.--– Nubis ^NWO 00:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The A/VB Thing

Angel in a townbox!

Please stop with the header lines, they don't help. If you need it to be noticeable that it's separate put them in a townbox or something.--Karek^maps?! 02:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Improper Placement of Group Pages

I've noticed that you moved the Axes High page to a header labeled Department of Emergency Management/Axes High. While I can appreciate the need for more organizational measures on behalf of the administration, I would appreciate if it were left as it was. We've occupied that page for over three years now, and frankly, It quite hurts our recruitment and general image to be categorized in such a way so as to compromise our singularity as a group in the eyes of the public. Yes, we are members of the DEM, but we're also members of the New Malton Colossus, the AOG, and whatever our little clique of central Malton groups choose to call ourselves. Being put under the header of a group of which we are a part makes little sense to me... as much as listing our page as "New Malton Colossus/Axes High", etc. Hardcore Rockabilly, Retired FAE Axes High ^{AH RR RRF}

I think we need to seriously look at move requests for groups that are still active and verify it with them in the future. You did know that AH existed before DEM right? We can't let people just post whatever move they want and then do it. It's like vandalism by proxy if it isn't caught. --– Nubis ^NWO 21:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

If it's questionable there is always the option of leaving the redirect and/or disputing the move. I don't think there's really a better way to do this, especially as this was pretty straightforward as a fix. Maybe convince or advice organizations to not put group members as subpages? That seems the most viable solution to things like this.--Karek^maps?! 21:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I did leave most (if not all) of the redirects so any links wouldn't have been affected. -- C h e e s e 21:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Misunderstanding

Hi Krazy Monkey. I'm here to resolve a bit of a problem my friend Kerkel has created. The fact is i'm TheZKiller (can't remember my pass, I would apreciatte if you could send it here as a message, and then delete this user, sorry), we both used to play UD some months ago, he quitted some days ago, and today, he fell by chance on this page and decided to start searching his mates to see what was up. He saw my death at The Philosopher's Knight Kill List, and contacted me to ask me about that. I told him that I'had never been killed by a PK (Philosopher's Knight, curious acronym), and logged in. By the time I saw the kill, and told him, he had already corrected the Kill List, thinking that correcting wrong info wasn't vandalism.

Yet, he was so persisten because the PK who killed me did it acussing me of being a "THZ scum", thing that I'm not, i have no relationship with that group, so again, wrong info, he corrected.

And the warnings? He told me he hadn't seen them because he expected them to be, if appeared, in the top, and no at the bottom of his messages list. He saw new messages, but looked for them at the top, and seeing only the automatic greet and welcome...well, continued deleting my injust kill until banned.

I'm not gonna ask you to remove the ban, he couldn't communicate with the admins and desisted (yet, if you could remove it for a while and talk to him abaout this, and find a solution, well, that'd be great), I just wanted to know, if the kill doesn't have a screen evidence, and was done with wrong info, you could talk with the author and discuss my pressence at their Kill List.

Ok, that's all. Thanks for you attention ;)

PS: I'm at the same house than kerkel, so you will probably see the same IP...

TheZKiller 04:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Revert

The command bios please, Daeryon has fucked up the layout and ruined the alphabetical orderness of it >:O http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Randoms/CommandBios&action=history Mrs Flibble^Talk 09:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. =p I'll check it out and try and fix it up at some point today. -- C h e e s e 11:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Some problems :(

'/Recruit' at the top of this page; it was created by this user. Was there a way to delete it?
When I try to put {{delete}} on this page it duplicates the image and messes up the links.

Thanks :) --Janus ^talk 14:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Problems in the past

Cheeseman, I've come here to formally apologize for my actions while at the randoms previously. To be honest, I was planning on going PKer anyway, and I decided I'd make an ass out myself until I was banned, for a personal laugh. I disrupted some things on the forums, and was totally oblivious to it. I should have just done the polite thing and quit "quietly," if you will. i would have contacted you sooner about this matter, but I had almost completely forgotten about the randoms, and was reminded from that post on my talk page. I hope you can accept my apology.

ps. I was not trying to talk shit on team zombie hardcore's page, they were grieving pro-survivor allies of my current group and I decided I would talk to them about it. They still continue to grief the Malton College of Medicine's campus, and something will be done soon. In fact, they just launched an unsuccessful attack less than half an hour ago. Thank you for your time. --Leroy jankens 02:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

kerkel case

since you are somehow involved in this, care to take into consideration my request to unban kerkel ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 12:27, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Haggnat for your help here. Im really glad to be back, you won't regret having unbanned me, neither you, nor Cheese (actually, I will make sure no one regrets it xD)

By the way, I would like to know, I used to post here with my TheZKiller old account, but I lost the pass and couldn´ get it back...is there a way of e-mailing it to me, or to recorver my account? If i´m comin' back, I would like to do it with my real account, and to do it starting with the right foot this time... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kerkel (talk • contribs) at somepoint on the 9th of January.

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