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Aichon

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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. —Aichon— 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

• New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==).
• I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
• I will format comments for stylistic reasons, delete comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason.

Thanks. —Aichon—

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Try email

If you want to talk to Kevan about bots. He's sympathetic, but you'll probably have better luck if you email him direct. I'd be happy to help you formulate some new line of defense if you'd like to present it to him. ~ _{03:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)}

Yeah, I know I should have e-mailed, but I'm not that motivated. :P —Aichon— 20:15, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Moar spambits, then. That'll motivate'cha. ~ _{23:44, 10 December 2012 (UTC)}

i'm lazy.

hey can you whip me up a PK sig? if you have the time of course.--User:Sexualharrison23:04, 9 December 2012

אמת ^PK <-- Like this? —Aichon— 04:08, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

yup! perfect thanks!!--User:Sexualharrison02:49, 11 December 2012

98AP ruins

Mind to clue me in on the location of juicy 98AP ruins? I have there an idle Dual Nature ghost town reclaimer who hasn't seen a decent ghost town since 404 went into hibernation. If I have to ask in private, tell me where to head. -- Spiderzed█ 17:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

I still regret never idling a survivor in Borehamwood. I could repair that whole goddamn city now. (Given 60 years). --Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 17:51, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Gnome has found quite a few recently while helping in my 3D Quest. --Klexur 21:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

If memory serves, it was over in Dunnell Hills, which should really come as no surprise. The SoC was just doing a competition for the last few weeks to do some general goodwill stuff around the entire Northwest, so a handful of our members were over there. They're all out now, so I don't see a point in it needing to be private. You can check the other dark buildings if you want. —Aichon— 04:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

SA gets his own section

If it makes you feel any better, I actually do race professionally every now and again.--SA 12:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what that's in reference to, but strangely, it does make me feel better. —Aichon— 14:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

"As much as I <3 SA, I'll take Mis driving my bus over SA any day (I could see SA driving off a bridge for the lulz)"--SA 19:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well, that wasn't a comment on your skills, clearly. It was a comment on your judgement. Your skills were never in doubt. :P —Aichon— 23:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Mis can't drive, but that's won't stop Mis. Mis wants a bus. And maybe a pronoun or two. 03:33, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I will get you the shortest bus money can buy some day. You fucking watch.--SA 10:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I want it so short it can ride its own short bus. 20:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Holy fucking shit, that is actually a pretty funny sounding idea. If I can ever get a hold of a pair of short buses IRL I will totally take a picture of it for you.--SA 21:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Just so we're all clear on something, I <3 both of you. I also hate you both so much right now. I don't accept bribes, but I do take money under the table. Totally not a bribe though. —Aichon— 05:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Why the fuck would I offer you money anyway? I'm a little lost on that. It was probably the vodka that night, as well.--SA 21:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Huh, I thought karke added the SA header as well. Good catch I spose!--SA 23:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I do what I can. —Aichon— 23:27, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I am no longer under consideration for ops, beeteedoubleyou.--SA 02:11, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, so now I can say what I really think about you. Coincidentally, it's the same as what I say anyway. —Aichon— 02:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Someone else still is though. :( 03:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I gotta let Ross initiate some of the stuff around here, since I don't want people thinking I'm reliable. ;) Also, you're awesome too, as you already know. Seriously, both of you are in my top 10 of people I've met here. —Aichon— 05:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Clearly it's time for the Koup. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 12:55, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Really?

Why now? --Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 10:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

You promised being able to relax, look important, and not do anything. Instead, I might actually have to make a decision! What's up with that? I trusted you! Much hate. —Aichon— 15:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Thats the beauty of having a double team. I can say no and you can be all nice. --Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 15:46, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Aww, but see, I can't do that, since then I'd be sticking you with something you don't deserve. It's one thing if you've already been the bad cop and it's more productive for getting something done just to have me play the good cop to your bad cop (which I feel has kinda happened a few times with Karek and myself), but it's different when we're actually both good cops and everyone knows it. —Aichon— 19:54, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Then let me be the bad cop. I'll be the baddest cop. I'll be Robert Zdar in Maniac Cop. 20:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Works perfectly well for me. For the purposes of this metaphor consider me Bruce Campbell in Maniac Cop 2. --Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 20:56, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I always pictured you more as Bruce Campbell in The Man with the Screaming Brain (you know, not really being paid attention to). 21:32, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Which is never good, if you're also the director. --Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 21:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I demand a third opinion from a third 'crat. Oh wait... --Axe Hack Talk 22:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Question

I am trying to offer myself like a cheap hooker, but I have concern no one will notice. I'd hate to miss out on any good trolling comments, so is there a way for me to make this more visible? Other than post on your talk page, which I just did. --_K 22:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I think I'm a little unclear. Should people be pitching their groups? Or character traits/gameplay styles? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Groups. I don't really know any group I'm not in that I want to join. --_K 01:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

<3

--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:19, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Always happy to help. ;) —Aichon— 01:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Self bans

Never recorded them before. think we should go back and add them all? --Rosslessness 23:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I was going off of Matthewfarenheit's and SA's, both of which are recorded on A/VD. What others are there? I'm not even aware of any off the top of my head. If it's not too much work, then yeah, I would go back and record them, that way no one assumes something incorrect later. —Aichon— 23:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Me, several times, grims, technically I think as part of the coup, a handful of sysops. It's not a lot, I have a sneaking suspicion a couple of demotions came with such requests. There's not a lot, it's digging them up. Can we make bob do it? --Rosslessness 23:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmm...well, I don't know about temporary self-requested bans, such as the ones I know you've requested in the past. I was more thinking of permabans that have been requested. The temporary variety will handle themselves after awhile, whereas the perma ones needs some sort of action to take place in order for them to be overturned, so having a paper trail helps. And Bob can't exactly do it unless he has access to A/VD, which he doesn't want for another few months. —Aichon— 00:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Your wish is my command. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 02:36, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Mine wasn't a self ban, I was banned due to misconduct you sillies.--SA 00:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Didn't you delete everything? --Rosslessness 00:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

You also requested a permaban. The misconduct thing was only a six-month ban. Your old account was actually unblocked back in March 2011 after you apparently requested to come back to DDR or one of the other sysops. —Aichon— 00:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I requested a perma as my misconduct punishment. Its called context, silly! You guys settled on the six month thing. :| I was able to start editing again because I moved and therefor had a new IP address to fuck about with, I never requested to be unbanned. It just happened like that :D --SA 00:24, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't around for it, but see this. Block log confirms you were unblocked that day. As for punishment, there's a policy against sysops enforcing their own punishment, so your request had no bearing on the decision for what punishment to enact. We just figured you didn't want to deal with the wiki any more. :P —Aichon— 00:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, lol, that you created your SA account and then told someone you wanted to come back is the reason why your old one was unbanned. You even commented on it at the time. —Aichon— 00:32, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Yep. I never requested a self ban, I requested a perma ban as my punishment. You guys settled on a sixer+self ban though. And I, as stated, got mad at Thad and decided to edit again. Not my fault you guys left an opening!--SA 00:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's anyone's fault that you did something we were hoping you'd do. :D —Aichon— 00:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, I'm pretty sure DDR just unblocked everything since I said I was back. I dunno. Important thing is I still maintain that the "self ban" was actually a misconduct ban!--SA 00:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Pfft, whatever. That's not a valid request, so it could only be treated as a self-request. Obvious. Wikilaw 101 stuff. —Aichon— 03:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Before he was talking about having forgotten the password. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 05:24, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

A bunch of the cases I found are ambiguous. From the demotions archive all I could find was this which you guys mentioned above, and a discussion of a possible ban with this request by Ross. Is this equivalent to a self-ban? And I'm assuming we're not counting Generaloberst repeatedly reporting himself to A/VB as an attempted self-ban.

Here are the (largely) unambiguous ones I've got from A/VB: Thad, Axe, Poodle, TripleU, Axe, Poodle, more Poodle, Ross, WanYao, Janus Abernathy, DDR, Thekooks.

Also, I never realized how totally crazy some of the A/VB archives are. Personal favorite. And how inconsistent the formatting is. Why did we switch from having the navbar at the top to the bottom in January 2010? And that we only started using {{v}} in December of 2009. Looking through ones before that was a hundred times more difficult. I'm only as far back as January 2008, since the lists get longer and longer and more and more disheveled as you go back in time. Will get to the rest later tonight. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 02:36, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

The VB archives are some of the funnest times in the wiki's history, along with A/M. You will enjoy reading some of those cases :D --SA 02:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Bob, if you keep this up, your name will become a verb synonymous with "being way too thorough". Then again, I suppose I've been accused of that in the past as well...

And yeah, the archives are kinda insane to go through, but if you think they're bad, try to make sense of A/VD records from the early days. That's why my ongoing project of linkifying A/VD is such a start-and-stop affair that manages to hit a snag every time I go through more than about a dozen users. And I'm even outright staying away from some of them for the time being, since they're so convoluted. —Aichon— 03:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Remainder: Hagnat and Hagnat again. Brizth. Gold Blade's case is weird. DarkStar2374383 and Wanker are both self-reporters. Also, maybe this? Hard to discern. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 05:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Wathe is an alt of the 3pwv(3 page wiki vandal) who was a prolific vandal back in the day and liked to point out and claim credit for his actions. He was reporting himself for his ego but had actually committed tons of vandal edits, per normal. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 09:01, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Haha, wasn't hagnat a/m'd for those? A ZOMBIE ANT 03:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

yip

unpromote him immediately --Rosslessness 10:54, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Mis

We should really do something about his bid. --Rosslessness 19:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I literally hit the + on your talk page to post something when I saw my talk page had been edited. Whad'ya have in mind? —Aichon— 19:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe an old, old wooden ship from the civil war era? --Rosslessness 19:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused. Which civil war are we talking about? American? Spanish? Something else? —Aichon— 19:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I was giving the situation the level of seriousness I thought it deserved. American. --Rosslessness 19:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, contrary to what you may think, Americans don't all keep Civil War era ships in their backyard, so I do not have one I can provide for this situation. —Aichon— 19:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. There's only so far you can go in urban dead without turning up Ron Burgundy --Rosslessness 19:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't a fan of the movie, and the player predates me, so I miss a lot of references. —Aichon— 20:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

So, seriously, what are your thoughts? —Aichon— 20:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Fails the important criteria of level of contribution. Cute, but not that cute. --Rosslessness 20:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, despite the overwhelming levels of support he's receiving (most of which is either joking or clearly assuming that his bid is a joke), as well as the check that he assures me is in the mail, I'm leaning towards a "no" on this one. He's actually not too far off on his activity, but I'd want to see it up a bit higher. If his activity picked up a bit more, or he was clearly serious about it and had had increased activity recently, or even if this was just a re-eval after one of his terms, that would be different, but this is none of those. —Aichon— 20:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

An excellent summary. --Rosslessness 20:54, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, can you explain how you define his activity as "not too far off"? Because I think it's terrible? --Rosslessness 21:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

He has around 250 edits in the last six months, which is about halfway there. I'm willing to give a bit of extra leeway to former sysops who have a good record and left on good terms. —Aichon— 21:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah, fair enough, I frame the question "How long has he taken to make 500 edits?", which gives the slightly more concerning answer of "Summer 2011". --Rosslessness 21:21, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that as well, but he's had increased activity in the last year, though not enough to get to a point where I'd be okay with a promotion. —Aichon— 21:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Twice this week I've found unexpected interpretations of udwiki criteria. I'm obviously too set in my ways. --Rosslessness 22:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Meh, the deletions thing was a brainfart by me. Should've made more sense to me at the time. You're not too old just yet. <3 --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 22:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)