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What is a Bureaucrat?

A bureaucrat (AKA crat) is a user with the ability to promote and demote users for sysop and bureaucrat positions. The Urban Dead Wiki mantains two active bureaucrats at all times, with elections occurring every three months to promote a sysop into bureaucrat, filling the position of the one who has least recently had an election.

A bureaucrat whose position is being filled can run for reelection, with no limits on how many times a bureaucrat can remain in the position.

Can I become a Bureaucrat?

Only System Operators (aka sysop) can become bureaucrats. Users who are part of the Urban Dead Wiki community for a set period of time and which have made a certain number of edits can be promoted to sysop, as long as they get the rest of the community support. For more information on how to become a sysop, read the sysop promotions page.

System Operators can become bureaucrat if elected by the community. A sysop needs to be active in the previous months of the election in order to run for crat. If he becomes active AFTER the election begun, he will only be able to run for 'crat in the next election.

Can I vote?

Any user can vote. You can only vote in one candidate per election, and any user who vote more than once will have all their votes stricken.

Can I vote for myself?

If you are a sysop and eligible for voting, you can vote for yourself.

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Next election

Should be for boxy's slot since he is a mid season replacement for AHLG who was elected BEFORE Cheese. Don't let him slip in as Crat for Life. -- #99 ^DCC 13:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I believe the way the policy is worded is that it's the oldest 'crat's bid that gets put up. No reason why Cheese should get an extra long bid because Gnome stepped down.--Karek^maps?! 14:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I think its argued that its the last crat not to have their position voted on, and the election itself was a vote. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

So, if a crat whose position will be up for grabs in the next election is demoted two and half weeks before the end of his term, the crat who gets elected will only keep his position for half a week ? for someone who tries to appear smart, this was a really dumb idea, DCC. The guidelines for bureaucrat election are not hard to understand, and they are pretty clear about whose position will be voted on next time --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

'Crats come under default election if they go 12 months without one, so that saves the possibility of 'Crat for life, DCC. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

August Election

So, it's nearly the 15th Beurocrat election! And on the 15th, how fitting. So, what's the community opinion in the pre-election? Link can't run because he's already a crat, Daranz and Swiers don't look like they'll have enough edits. That leaves everyone else as a potential candidate. Whether or not they run is a different matter. From the last election, looks like Conndraka will be pulling out.

That leaves:

Suicidalangel

Boxy

Cyberbob240

DanceDanceRevolution

Krazy monkey

Nubis

Rosslessness

The General

The Rooster

Any thoughts?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:41, 9 August 2009 (BST)

...You want the community, this community, to attempt to have a debate on who is best suited for the job?... I honestly cannot wait to see how this ends.--SirArgo ^Talk 20:56, 9 August 2009 (BST)

My vote goes to whoever has the guts to actually demote people once the sysops re-evaluation starts.--Thadeous Oakley 21:31, 9 August 2009 (BST)

I would have no trouble pulling the trigger.--– Nubis ^NWO 22:09, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Which would be everyone. Cyberbob  Talk  23:30, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Vote for Pedro <----DDR -Poodle of doom 22:16, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Sometimes I feel that the best idea would be a dance off....--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:27, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Only if it's retro dancing types. Swing dancing ftw.--SirArgo ^Talk 22:56, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Boxy

Actually Buzz's vote should be considered valid as there is no proof the account is a sockpuppet.--xoxo 07:49, 29 August 2009 (BST)

True. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:38, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Yes, and I thought you couldn't struck puppetry? Or was that only meat puppetry? Exceptions are made in case's where its dead obvious or something?--Thadeous Oakley 10:28, 29 August 2009 (BST)

The account was pretty clearly purpose-made as either a meatpuppet or a sockpuppet; its first edit was to vote on Boxy's bid, and the IP traces back to the town Sexy, Jed, Nick and DDR all hail from. You connect the dots. We don't strike meatpuppets because you can't prove that they were actually contacted offsite, but here the proof is conclusive that something went down. We just don't know which variety of puppetry it was. Cyberbob  Talk  10:41, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Thanks for the explanation Bob. Quite a coincidence, all the same town. Do they all know each other ;)?--Thadeous Oakley 10:47, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Yes. Cyberbob  Talk  10:48, 29 August 2009 (BST)

But we're not all from the same town...--Nallan (Talk) 11:17, 29 August 2009 (BST)

and tbh the bbk doesnt really have vested intrests as a whole these days. Judging from the voting, and only because I dont really give 2 shits about what 2 cool do on a tactical scheme, it looks as if they dont agree on this issue either. Theres quite a few people in this city, and at one point, there was at least 40 UD players from our school alone. Could be anyone, but it wasnt anyone I know, and it wasnt from 2 Cool as Jed is in Sydney, and Nick might as well have just changed his own vote to Boxy rather than making an alt to cancel himself out. Actually changing his vote would have made a 2 vote swing so yeah. I can't answer for DDR though, I have no idea if he knows who it is or not, I'd have to wait for him to comment--CyberRead240 11:51, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Also Jed is from Sydney, forgot to add it. Also what happens with elections now that its a draw?--CyberRead240 11:56, 29 August 2009 (BST)

No idea. Have another round of voting with just the two of them that only goes for a few days maybe? Cyberbob  Talk  12:03, 29 August 2009 (BST)

I know the BBK archives aren't an Encyclopaedia of Wiki Info, but thats what we did a while back when our group hit 40 odd and we had an election. Myself and someone else tied and we had another round of voting, worked out ok.--CyberRead240 12:13, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Oh you know what I mean Nick. Don't be a nitpick. Cyberbob  Talk  12:03, 29 August 2009 (BST)

I used the 2 Cool/BBK thing because it's an easy way to talk about everyone in that area without having to go through and painstakingly name everyone. I'm not saying that you guys all got together and planned it out because as you say - you're obviously not all in agreement. But to try and say that it was some random other guy is kind of silly because of the fact that the vote was the very first edit the account made. Cyberbob  Talk  12:03, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Well, if you read closely, I dont think it is a random guy. I just know its not me, and its not 2 Cool. As I said I cant answer for anyone else because I dont know the details of anyone else, and I also dont want to sit here and point fingers. Its up to you to read between those lines.--CyberRead240 12:10, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Well my best guess outside of those people would be...DDR? DUN DUN DUN. Cyberbob  Talk  12:13, 29 August 2009 (BST)

As I am saying, I dont know if it is him or not, and I dont want to point fingers. But basically I dont check the wiki often enough and didnt even get my own vote in on time, I didnt check it until I got asked if Buzz Killington was me on Facebook. It isnt Jed or Nick for obvious reasons, and in the process of elimination, if it IS a sockpuppet, it would have to be DDR. But I dont know if it is, and if I did know I wouldn't jump on here shouting names because thats just low, wiki and irl are two different places for me. But I dont know if it is Charlie, I hope it isnt, because I cant ever imagine it being him. But then again, sometimes people use those images created to their advantage. I hope it isnt, tbh--CyberRead240 12:20, 29 August 2009 (BST)

I honestly hope I'm wrong about literally the entire thing with the account being dodgy... don't think I am though. Cyberbob  Talk  12:24, 29 August 2009 (BST)

The account is obviously dodgy, but it wasn't me. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:34, 29 August 2009 (BST)

And although I have no obligation to save any member of the BBK clique, it's worth noting that the BBK have a score of genuine users (IRL friends) at their disposal, it's beyond logic that they would use an account like this Buzz Killington user to meat/sockpuppet a vote. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:39, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Hilariously true.--Nallan (Talk) 12:43, 29 August 2009 (BST)

Ha HA. (Phil Ken Sebben laugh)xoxo 06:13, 30 August 2009 (BST)

And also, in a tie, the current Crat decides who wins. It's in the main page's intro. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:44, 29 August 2009 (BST)

So Link has to do something himself? My hands are rubbing in anticipation. You can paint that mental picture however you like,--CyberRead240 12:48, 29 August 2009 (BST)

September/December 2009

The next election will be around about the 25th of December assuming of course that there are no demotions either by inactivity or by choice with the Box's space up for grabs. -- Cheese 14:49, 26 September 2009 (BST)

Christmas election! Fuck yeah! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Not fuck yeah. A lot of users might not have the chance to vote due to the holidays.-- SA 19:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll be about. Such power. Mwah ha ha! --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Boxy could request an earlier election, starting on the 1st say, as an act of good faith to ensure that the full community gets a chance to vote. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Or alteratively extend the voting process, so it started earlier. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Extending the voting process is contrary to the policy, calling an election voluntarily is not. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

You people and your "rules" --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Good faith? The hell? What about "avoiding the christmas period by putting onesself up for election early even though he has had a short term already" makes good faith? UDWiki's activity goes up more during the late December-early January period, we just rock that much. Keep as is. Obviously. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 21:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Got some facts to show that? Might make an interesting article. I'm always being told that zombie activity goes down over the summer. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

They've been in my userspace for about 6 months dude. As for the zombie activity idea, which summer? English or Aussie? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 21:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Northern Hemisphere. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm in the Northern Hemisphere!-- SA 22:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

(Pats on head) Well done. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

What is the usual holiday schedule? Off just before Christmas, and for a couple of weeks? -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:36 28 November 2009 (BST)

Depends? School holidays or? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Any/all, I guess -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:42 28 November 2009 (BST)

I work up until Christmas Eve. Aus School holidays finish about <1 week before Christmas. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Likewise, finishing work on 21st. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I think my day off is christmas eve, and I have to go in on christmas. :/ -- SA 19:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

A whole month is dumb. But I think having it on, say, the 20th instead of the 25th may suffice? If we feel so inclined? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:18, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't care either way anymore. I gotta work christmas anyway and I am in grumpy mode. >:| -- SA 02:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

20th sounds good to me -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 10:48 3 December 2009 (BST)

20th seems fair, but I'd suggest the 21st. It's a monday so it feels right, plus it's more of an evenly-spaced period either side of Christmas day so anyone busy on one side of it has time the other side. 22:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

20th is a bit pointless really, given that it's the same Monday to Friday week as Christmas, anyone who interwebs from school/uni/college is likely to be away and therefore can't vote. If you're going to move it, then Friday the 18th would include such backwards people without home iwebs (though it'd obviously have to kick off from start of school/uni/college time in the Antipodes to allow everyone a chance. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 15:16, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Boxy's so clever

I just realised, having a name that comes first alphabetically is an amazing tactical ploy. Aaron A. Aardvark is a sure fire winner for the next crat elections. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

That'd be hilarious. Oh. Except in the last 2 years, 10 or so elections it's happened basically twice, both of which were just Boxy anyway. :/ --

 

 

 

 

11:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Not that I'm implying that most wikizens cant be bothered scrolling. Although it would explain why people aren't voting for SA. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh cmon, we aren't ALL lazy. SA isn't getting a vote because he's a dud op who doesn't bother taking the job seriously anymore. --

 

 

 

 

11:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Demote the cunt ^{this response stolen from SA} --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't say that infront of Read. He will have your head ^{he's actually the one that 'invented' it} --

 

 

 

 

11:34, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but i stole it from SA who stole it from him. Always pay it forward. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

The system WORKS!!! --

 

 

 

 

11:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

No wonder Xoid left us -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:02 18 December 2009 (BST)

Hm, yeas, I'm a dud sysops who doesn't take da job srsly anymore.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

<3 SA —Aichon— 19:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I do have to say, having a screen name close to the start of the alphabet really is rather nice. It's easy to find your name on lists, to say the least. —Aichon— 19:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I should change my name. :( --ZsL 19:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Yours is easy to find too. It's just at the other end. :) —Aichon— 19:58, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

:D --ZsL 20:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

So does this mean that I am the best? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I think this guy has us beat. Though, coincidentally, his first contribution was made today after this discussion started... —Aichon— 21:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Probably that 'tard's alt, he knows who I am talking about. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

It's a unique user insofar as much as it does not be matching any ips here. :/ -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 23:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Baby Come Back

You can blame it all on me. --Haliman - Talk 03:33, 2 April 2010 (BST)

April Election

Aichon

1. Someone who I actually trust to be impartial, unbiased and otherwise fair in his rulings, all traits the last bureaucrat definitely didn't have. --Thadeous Oakley 08:26, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   It's almost like your entire existence on this wiki is geared towards making offhand and wrong comments about me. If it were anyone else I'd consider taking a hint but since it's you I'm actually flattered. --

    

    

    

    

   11:47, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   Actually, nevermind, after looking at your contributions I've realised that non-confronting me with pathetic little quips is only part of your current schedule, mixed with spamming WN at newbies and then never following up on the help they need. Shit, I stand mistaken. --

    

    

    

    

   11:53, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   Aren't these comments supposed to be under my vote? :P -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 12:01, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   Lol! Nice ;D Unfortunately though there is a vast difference between WN'ing newbies 5 times a day, and then making 50 constructive edits, to WNing users 5 times a day and then making 5 edits a week whingeing about a)DDR or b)nazism. Oh and you actually follow up on the newbie screwups to help wiki upkeep, Iscariot. --

    

    

    

    

   12:07, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   Ha! It's after midday, so it counts, and I have the diff so you can't take it back :P You said I made constructive edits, I'm never going to let you live that down :P -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 12:12, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   I don't mind admitting if it you do, you know. If things don't stop I can see us having a similar strange immediate love affair I previously shared with Cyberbob. --

    

    

    

    

   12:14, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   Remember, Iscariot is DDR approved for use in both the home and at work and is safe for your children to use! Do not operate heavy machinery while under the influence of Iscariot -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 12:20, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   For external use only. If Iscariot comes in contact with eyes wash immediately and seek medical advice. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:56, 1 April 2010 (BST)

   Lol. --Haliman - Talk 03:27, 2 April 2010 (BST)

jerrel's question

I would like to know why I can't be Promo'd to ANYTHING!-- Jerrel tlk _{(82nd!) (Project Unwelcome!)}. 01:29, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Possibly due to your vast inactivity. A sysop is expected to be highly active so as to constantly maintain the wiki's admin tasks, and a bureaucrat is expected to be even more active so as to have a good understanding of the activity levels and reliability of the members of the community. 01:33, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Indeed. Bureaucrat positions are only available to current sysops, and sysops have to meet certain criteria in order to be promoted to that position. When last you applied for promotion to sysop, you failed to meet the minimum activity requirements in order to be eligible for promotion. While those requirements can be waived in the case of widespread community support, I'm afraid that you didn't appear to have that widespread support at the time. Check the guidelines at the top of these pages and they should explain what's necessary for promotion, in terms of raw objective numbers and other, more subjective, measures. —Aichon— 01:49, 12 April 2010 (BST)

I already explain on his talk. --

 

 

 

 

01:51, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Yes, well...I liked how I said it better. :P —Aichon— 01:56, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Or as I outlined in your last bid. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:26, 14 April 2010 (BST)

Have you considered the possibility that you're simply a fucking mong? Cyberbob  Talk  15:30, 14 April 2010 (BST)