Suggestions/18th-Dec-2006

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Remote Necronet Access (revivsed)

Removed for revision --Jon Pyre 05:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC) }}

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Muzzleloader

Mod Spaminated with 8 Spams, 7 Kills and 2 Keeps.--Gage 18:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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Remote Necronet Access

Timestamp:	Jon Pyre 05:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Type:	Skill
Scope:	Scientists
Description:	The Necronet Access subskill Remote Access indicates the scientist is a trained computer technician with the access codes to interface with necronet from outside locations. You may use the computers in any powered school or library if the suburb's phone mast is also powered to view the Necronet Map centered on the nearest necrotech, if it and its suburb's phone mast are powered too. If any of the required buildings lacks a generator the "Remote Access" button in schools and libraries would not appear. Provides a use for schools and libraries, pretty handy if the nearest Necrotech is a ways away and you want to return to your current safehouse. Encourages survivors not to clump up.

Keep Votes

1. Author This version only lets you see what's visible at the nearest NT and doesn't cover necronet dead zones. --Jon Pyre 05:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
2. Keep - Reluctantly, okay. --Wikidead 06:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Keep - Sounds quite interesting. --Zombie slay3r 14:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
4. Keep -I like it, but it would be a second-to-last skill before surgery. It would be useful in suburbs that are NT buildingless, but only to a point. --Axe27 15:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
5. keep Asheets 18:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
6. As all three buildings have to be powered, all right. I don't think it will discourage clumping, though. -Mark 18:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
7. Unsure about how often it would be needed or possible, but it's a nice idea, makes vague RP sense. Could save a little AP, and encourage people to keep phone towers charged. Worth a keep, then. -- Catriona McM 19:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
8. keep - nice idea. --Nicks 19:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
9. keep -- BzAli 22:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
10. Sure... -Certified=Insane^☭ 22:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
11. Keep - Eh, okay. It doesn't cause any actual harm, and the requirements are so restrictive it would almost never happen. The best thing about it would be the way anyone who actually knows it can be done feels like they have found an easter egg.--Nosimplehiway 23:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
12. Not Funt Solos Vote - Notice how he and Gage ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS vote spam, even to kool ideas like this one. --Poopman9 00:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
13. Keep - I agree with nosimplehiway, this would be kind of a cool Easter Egg. The only problem I see is that it would just be simpler to use the NT building. --Uncle Bill 04:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
14. Sadly, PM9's Vote - But with less emphasis on Funt Solo and more emphasis on the fact that this suggestion is rather good.--J Muller 06:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    

Kill Votes
Against Votes here
Spam/Dupe Votes

Spam - overcomplicating a system that's already fine - for no apparent reason other than to revise your other, failed suggestions that wanted to cover all of Malton. Why should I be able to access NecroNet from a school, via a transmitter - and how many buildings need to be powered to get this to work? --Funt Solo 09:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

• Re Actually this is unrelated to the "dead zone" suggestion. I was looking through previous and spotted a suggestion from a while back to give libraries an additional purpose and realized I never revised it. I'm assuming that there's a computer with a wireless connection somewhere in the building with a mobile card. For this to work you need 3 buildings to be powered if the necrotech is in the same suburb, and four if it's in a different one. While it sounds like a lot of prerequisites you'd want the necrotech and phone masts powered anyway. This just gives a reason to plant a genny in a library. --Jon Pyre 14:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Re - overcomplicated. --Funt Solo 15:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

1. As above. --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 13:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
2. Spam - Funt said it. Cyberbob  Talk  14:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
   • Re It's not really that complicated. Just power the library and necrotech and have wireless service active in both locations. --Jon Pyre 19:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Spam - Really not needed in my opinion.--Mr yawn 15:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
   • Re Not needed but I like giving unique traits to non-resource buildings. Makes the game about more than just malls and necrotechs. --Jon Pyre 18:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
   • Spam Unneeded. Necronet is powerful enough as it is. -- Andrew McM ^W! 23:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
4. Spam Not needed, complicated, etc etc. -Schizmo 01:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
5. Spam - As other Spam --Grim s-^{Mod U!} 03:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Spam 2.0 I don't think its needed really. And what happens when there is no NT in the suburb? Is there no button? Or does it show a NT view from the nearest one, even if it is the next suburb over?--_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 03:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
   • Re If the nearest one is in the next suburb, then yes. That might not be too far away at all if you're by the border. --Jon Pyre 13:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
7. Spamulator Wow I'm watching myself play urban dead playing urban dead playing urban dead playing urban dead playing urban dead playing urban dead playing urban dead playing urban dead (for the guys that don't get it and want to strike this out because of spam, I'm playing urban dead in the game urban dead) Same as other reasons btw: --Shadow213 07:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
8. Spam - Funt covered it.--Gage 07:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

   Spam - lawl@Jon's pathetic attempts to cushion his ego from his fall from the top of the Suggestions charts. Cyberbob  Talk  09:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

   [second vote struck --Funt Solo 13:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)]

9. Dupe - http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suggestions/24th-May-2006#Library_Improvement:_Remote_Necronet_Access I found this suggestion. Vote changed to Dupe. -- Andrew McM ^W! 18:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
10. Dupe, changing vote, as per McM. --Funt Solo 18:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

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STUPID FREAKING NEWSPAPERS!!!

Timestamp:	Kaminobob 07:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Type:	improvement
Scope:	useless items
Description:	Currently, clicking on a useless item, such as a newspaper, causes it to do something useless and then wastes an AP and an IP hit. Obviously, this is bad. I propose that when you click on a useless item, (poetry book, newspaper, crucifix) it displays the relevant flavor text, and then automatically drops the item. This would use an IP hit but no AP, just like dropping any other item. I am NOT including wirecutters in this idea because they may one day be useful again.

Keep Votes

1. author keep is there anyone that does not hate newspapers? --Kaminobob 07:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

   re: sample text IDEAS: "you stare at the crucifix, but nothing happens. you throw it away in disgust." "you skim the headlines of the newspaper, then burn it for warmth/out of spite." [unsigned content --Funt Solo 10:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)]

2. Keep I never use flavor items like books or newspapers because they consume AP, they have no tactical value, and you don't get any social benefit from them. Why not let newbies freely read 'Scientists Note Strange Meteor Shower" or whatever when they find a newspaper? I think it's better to have these jokes read for free than instantly discarded. However books shouldn't be discarded, since they can be used repeatedly. --Jon Pyre 14:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
3. keep I want to read them, but not at the cost of something else. Asheets 18:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
4. 'cause they are a pain if you play more than 3 characters, and an annoyance even if you don't. Doesn't change anything though, I want them out of the game... -Certified=Insane^☭ 22:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
5. Keep - Make it a right-click, though, so if people want to get flavour-text, they can go ahead. Peterblue 23:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Keep On Freaking Wheels!! - If you do not vote keep to this awesome suggestion, you are a `tard who needs more time in special ed. or you are SpankyMalone. --Poopman9 00:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
   

Kill Votes

Spelling - Work on your spelling. One day those items might have a proper use. Just leave them alone. Besides, when you read a newspaper, you actually drop it. Newspapers might not be useful now, but later on they could be. Crucifixes are flavour items, leave them alone, same with poetry books!

re: point A: whatever flavor text they have would be displayed, and THEN it would be dropped. point B: why do you think my spelling is faulty?

Re: - I still think it's a bad idea. Why should we change the newspaper text to something as stupid as burning it. The other items can exist as flavour. It's good we should have to drop it ourselves, you can't have a free lunch. Everything you do in Urbandead has to cost you something, even if it is an IP hit, dro pthe items another day or something. Now for point B: It ain't hard, but have you ever heard of a capital letter? I'm not much of a spelling nazi, but I do get pissed off when someone does not use capital letters, even after a fullstop

Striking all unsigned content. --Funt Solo 10:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

um, right. i just dont use capital letters. it makes my life easier. and if gives me an evil ittle chuckle when it tweaks people. and on to point a: that was an example. a silly example. why? because i'm silly, duh. --Kaminobob 07:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

1. Kill - I thought newspapers were already automatically dropped when used. Hmmm... If I'm wrong, I'll vote keep. --Wikidead 08:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
2. So, basically, this suggestion is that one should automatically drop crucifixes when you click on them since newspapers and books ALREADY do that (read it and auto drop it) and wirecutters were not included. Here's a better idea: DON'T CLICK ON THE "USELESS" ITEM! And, to the first kill voter, you need to sign your votes with ~~~~ or it doesn't count (and I fixed his grammar).--Pesatyel 09:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Oops - Sorry I forgot to sign it, silly me! It can be a bit of a habit you know. Anyway, why I'm voting kill: All it will affect is crucifixes and we don't need minor suggestions like that. If you don't want a crucifix, don't search in a church! They're terrible spots for wine and FAKs!Kaylee Hans 10:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
4. Just drop it. It won't waste an AP and 160 hits a day should be enough for you to play at least 3 characters. --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 13:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
5. as above --Funt Solo 14:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Kill - As above.--Mr yawn 15:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
7. Kill - I understand your frustration at the useless items, but if someone clicks on a useless item, then they obviously want the flavor text. And just like speaking, that should use an AP. This suggestion has no advantage over the current system of dropping an item other than the fact that dropping an item doesn't show the flavor text. --Reaper with no name ^TJ! 18:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
8. As everyone else. -Mark 18:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
9. Kill - Oh, forget it. These useless items will eventually get a use, so Kevan may as well keep the AP hit in there...--_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 03:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
10. Kill - Just drop it. I play three characters, and it's fine.--J Muller 06:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
11. edge between kill/spam this is pointless, why not just drop the stupid paper? Also author needs to make point on what's useless. Some people consider baseball bats useless because they're weak against fireaxe. Also, people mentioning books, they are less useful than other items, but if somebody as a scientist entered a vs+2 necrotech building and they wake up seeing that it's eh+2 with 74 exp, they might not want to get out fearing that they will lose the opportunity to get back in and upgrade their abilities. Books are all but useless. Besides, can't you just drop? They don't help you in any ways (and also stupid if you decide you use a crucifix item.)--Shadow213 07:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    • My bad! he did mention it, just was reading a keep right afterwords and got confused. None the less, some people rp and still should have it. It's flavor. --Shadow213 07:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
      

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LENGTH OF PIPE, New Use

According to the authors last edit on the suggest, he has withdrawn it.--Mr yawn 17:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've learned much today. Guess it's been suggested before (many times). Question: does Kevan actually see these suggestions, or is this simply a spamfest? I don't think an idea can be bad until it's considered, tweaked, and implemented. I left some things undecided out of humility; who am I to suggest % chance, damage, etc. Figured you guys, or Kevan, could do that better. The rumor on Brainstock is that the folk here on the UD Wiki are, for the most part, a bunch of rude a-holes. Refreshing to see the rumor proved wrong.Probee

You might want to place your suggestion up on the discussion page, where you can refine it before placing it here - it is a harsh voting environment - a bit like the gong show - people aren't shy about saying something's crap if that's what they think. --Funt Solo 19:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Take this to a talk page if you want to whine, bitch, or otherwise spam up this page; this is not a discussion page.--Gage 21:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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Metal Pipe? Huh?

Timestamp:	Reaper with no name TJ! 17:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Type:	Flavor change
Scope:	Lengths of Pipe
Description:	I don't know if any of you have attacked someone with a length of pipe lately, but in the drop-down menu for selecting what to attack with the length of pipe is instead called a "metal pipe". There's really no reason for this, and it could potentially confuse newbies (or anyone else, for that matter), so I suggest that the length of pipe be called such in the weapon drop-down menu.

Keep Votes
For Votes here

1. Author Keep - Why should the length of pipe have 2 different names? --Reaper with no name ^TJ! 17:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
2. Keep - I don't see a downside, so why not?Waluigi Freak 99 18:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
3. keep I have never noticed this and if anyone else did they didn't care enough to point it out, Given how long the game has run for it hardly seems worth bothering about a minor proof-reading error.--Honestmistake 17:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
   • Re- It's a minor flavor change, I'll admit. But this sort of thing would be extremely easy to correct (we're talking about 2 minutes here), and I'm not sure how long this error has been in existence (I could have sworn that when I first started playing the game the length of pipe was called such in the drop downs). Really, it comes down to the possibility of confusing newbies and the whole "Why not?" thing. --Reaper with no name ^TJ! 18:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
4. keep what the hell... Asheets 18:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
5. Oh alright then!--Honestmistake 18:13, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Sure. (Changed Honestmistake's formatting.) -Mark 18:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
7. Keep - Fine by me.--Mr yawn 18:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
8. Aye --Funt Solo 19:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
9. Keep - Sure, why not? --Wikidead 20:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
10. Smurf - What? I like smurfs. Oh, and the suggestion is good, too. -- Andrew McM ^W! 23:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
11. Keep - Odd that no one noticed this before. --| scrapped | 00:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
12. Ok then?? Who uses pipes anyway though... --Poopman9 00:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
13. Keep - a little edit, so good to me--_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
14. Keep - Small enough to make no difference, really. Therefore, Keep!--J Muller 06:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
15. Useless - but who cares!!! :D --Shadow213 07:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
    

Kill Votes

my vote moved.--Honestmistake 18:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

1. Kill - Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't see how calling a "length of pipe" a "metal pipe" is an error. Are you saying people have been getting confused because that pipe they've been using to disintegrate generators with a single blow is made of PVC?--Nosimplehiway 00:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
   

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Expedient Shotgun

This is an author-withdrawl. Voting was 12 keep, 13 kill, 0 spam when pulled. Reason for withdrawl is that most of the kill votes recommended that this be moved to the discussion page for revisions. Asheets 21:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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