Talk:Ackland Mall Security/Archive

Building the Group

Ackland Mall Security is still in the recruitment stage, once a sufficient number have committed to mall defence (say 10-15 for starters) the discussion section will be used for members to suggest methods of securing the mall. Suggestions will be open for voting for 7 days after being posted, a suggestion which is accepted my a majority vote will become official policy. This structure is designed so that starting members of the group all have a say in policy implementation and may itself be subject to change through the normal voting procedure. Those with multiple alts in the group are asked to vote only once on any issue.

Comments Area

Current Progress

After only 1 day of recruitment the group has attracted 4 members, please spread the word and get as many as you can to join us. People also seem eager to claim leadership, I would suggest waiting until membership reaches double figures. I have created a thread in the discussion area where such issues can be debated. - Hatchet Man Jim 23:30 15 May (BST)

Picked up 1 new member. Spread the word people, we are going to need more people before we can really get this thing moving. I notice we have our first name on the security list, good job to whoever spotted that one. The zombie tracker is also very nice, the wiki is starting to look nice and professional now. Keep contributing! Hatchet Man Jim 12:29 17 May (BST)

What happened last night? The mall is empty and the zeds are gone. On the plus side our history can be one of coming back from early adversity. Tamjin 12:58 17 May (BST) --Koppie 17:40, 17 May 2006 (BST)

Success! All of us, united, won the battle on the mall! Ackland Mall belongs to the ones who live! -- Palmann 11:07, 13 June 2006 (BST)

The battle is over, hooray, hooray. The big groups are packing up their bags and moving on, I'm gonna miss some of those guys but now that they are leaving it is our chance to be heard. Tell people about the group, spray our tags in and around the mall. Lets let people know we are here and are looking for members. Congrats to everybody for making it this far and thanks to every single person who helped out in the mall. - Hatchet Man Jim 12:12 15 June (BST)

i,ve just joined and i,m ready to defend ackland with my life,no,my very cool text based soul!!. Pvt murry]

Ackland Mall is now back in survivor control thanx to the combined efforts of MFD, RCS and myself. Please lets try and keep it in survivor hands - Smithy Jones 19:15 31 July 2006 (BST)

Nice, we got 9 members with profiles in the group now
hopefully we can get more people - Smithy Jones 15:10, 26th August 2006

Invitation

The Cannonball Crew recently set up a new group called the Loose Cannons. The LC is meant to be an informal place where people can work toward the common goal of killing zombies and aiding humans. Our current mission is to protect Ackland Mall and Havercroft in general. We heard the RRF is on its way, and the Channel 4 News Team just pulled out, so we're staying until the threat from the RRF is truly over. We have 20 "epic level" fighters in our group. Admittedly our group is different from yours, because we plan on leaving once the current threat is over, and you will remain dedicated to defending Ackland in perpetuity. We respect that. In the spirit of respect and cooperation, we'd like to invite you to join our forum. If you're interested, we'll even set up a sub-forum for you, so you can maintain your own group identity and continue to recruit. This will benefit you because you clearly need the infrastructure, and it will benefit us because we're both fighting for the same goal: protecting Ackland.

That being said, we also want to let you know we intend to advertise our own group in and around Ackland Mall. We're bigger and better organized, and we think we can better serve the greater good by bringing people to our forum. If people are interested in staying at Ackland and joining an organized group, yours is the perfect choice. But a lot of people aren't interested in joining a formally organized group with rules and leaders, and they're more likely to join an informal forum. Once they do, they have the option of joining your group as well.

I think we can only gain by working together. I hope you will all join our forum: [1]. We already have important intel that will be of use to you.

--Koppie 17:40, 17 May 2006 (BST)

Noone has really commented on this yet, myself and Palmann have posted on the LC forums. What do people think of this offer?

--Hatchet Man Jim 14:22, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Don't really care about the invitation, sure it's always nice to have partners, but everyone with a common enemy and the same objective are already allies in this battle, so I don't think this need to be any more formal. BTW: We need a lot of help at the mall ;)

--NickDX 19:40, 22 May 2006 (BST)

It seems we now have a forum within the Loose Cannons' own forums, so it's there if people want to use it.

--Hatchet Man Jim 12:02, 26 May 2006 (BST)

Past Zombie Tracking

29/08/06 4 Zombies in the area of Ackland Mall

18/8/06 2 Zeds located on Huddy Drive

14/8/06 The grid is clear. No Zombies in Sight but there are 40 dead bdies in the SW Corner of Ackland Mall

12/8/06 There are now more zombies in the area so those of you that want XP rejoice

11/8/06 a lone zombie on the corner of the grid. 2 10/8/06 it seems as the zombies are retreating from the mall,it appears as the Seige has ended

9/8/06 Zombie activity is starting to rise, they are still only in the SW Corner while other feral Zombies are starting to move in

8/8/06 Zombies are just currently attacking the SW Corner. It is made up of Ackland Abattoir and other Feral Zombies

14/07/06 Lay off the scouting for a month and look at what happens... 200+ zeds

13/06/06 Rapid falloff to only 190 bodies outside NE corner (none standing). While compared to recent weeks this may feel like Spring, in absolute terms however that is a lot of bodies!

12/06/06 Down to 274 zombies and bodies (52 standing). The siege is coming off its peak of the end of last week, but remember that bodies are just a few AP from being a zombie again. Also the number of bodies in the cemetary is quite high (14 zeds and 52 bodies) so the "missing" zombies might just be camping out and sucking down our syringes.

08/06/06 Up to 332 zombies and bodies.

05/06/06 311 zombies and bodies outside NE corner of the mall. They can kill very quickly (between actions). Almost too quickly ... We may be facing the dreaded "fast" zombies.

02/06/06 Zombies have rebounded from the increased survivor presence. Back up to 120-130 standing from 70-90 two days ago.

29/05/06 Zombies are currently attacking the NW corner, but are being heavily attritted due to increased survivor attacks - typically down to 80-90 standing zeds. Breakins seem to be abating as well Please patrol that quadrant cading and healing at the start and end of each shift. With both cades and heals we force the zeds to use 3-5 AP to our one.

Leadership Thread

[Hatchet Man Jim] Welcome to the first discussion thread on the AMS wiki page. It is my suggestion that the group follow a democratic structure, electing a leader on a term basis rather than in a permanent position. Every two months maybe? In addition to a leader, perhaps some other positions should be created to fill specific roles, for example a Head of Communications to liason with other groups or a Chief Scientist to organise revives. These are all just suggestions so feel free to kick them around and offer some alternatives. One final point, I wish to make it clear that I will not be running for leadership of the group, I'm just trying to get the ball rolling.

Palmann I agree with you that the leader should be elected in a regular basis, maybe two months like you suggested. I really ain't fighting for leadership. I don't know if I have the time to take care of a team, maybe on the begining. If needed, and I think it is, I can take some post, or posts, that are urgent. In real life, I'm a PHP programmer, so, if any systems are needed talk to me. Hope that this is the begining of a great resistence on Ackland Mall. Having survived Caiger Mall Tour, I won't give Ackland up.

Entry Points

[Hatchet Man Jim] How about the two cinemas? That'll give us entrances at the north and south and allow us to keep the Auto Shop (for Fuel) and the Fire Station at EHB. (EDIT:) Since everyone is using the Havercroft barricade plan it makes sense to keep using that for now.

NickDX We really need to have entry points, looks like someone is EH barricading every point around the mall...

[Masterded] Speaking of entry points… I was trying to get into the buildings near the mall and all buildings where extremely heavily barricaded. To make a long story short I never could get inside anywhere and now I am dead. So just a couple of quick questions. Which revive point’s do we use? Which is the best? What entry points are we trying to set up (So if I see they are barricaded when I’m human again I will know to weaken them)? Thx in advance.

Smithy Jones the most common entry point for Ackland Mall is St. Blaise's Church (31, 46), seeing as the Mall Revive Point is just south of the Church (31, 47). Another entry point into the Havercroft Barracade Plan is at Martha General Hospital (33, 41) - 23:19, 1 Sept. 2006

Don't you need a forum?

Hatchet Man Jim, you've ignored our invitation, and posted again in our forum without explaining why. We need to forget about petty power squabbles, the future of Ackland Mall rests on our ability to work together toward a common goal.

You mentioned in your latest post that you have a zombie tracker and a pker list. Your zombie tracker only covers the area near the mall itself, and your pker list has one person in it (who's already been executed). We have much more important intel in our forum already. Plus, if someone needs help, we already have much greater manpower available.

Just say the word and I'll create a sub-forum for you. You still get to maintain your group identity and continue to recruit, and we both get to pool our resources. If you're posting in our group I assume you're also reading our posts and taking advantage of our intel. I'm not sure why you're refusing our offer. That goes for everyone else here. If anyone in AMS wants a real forum, let me know and I'll set it up! http://s15.invisionfree.com/Giddings_Defenders/index.php?showforum=16 --Koppie 15:36, 18 May 2006 (BST)

I didn't ignore you Kopie, I find it bizarre that you can say this when the invitation is one to join your forum which you then criticise me for posting on! I pm'ed you through the forums before I made that post, explaining my intentions. I am aware that the list only has one name in it, but the list has only been there for 3 days. I posted on your forum asking members to contribute so that it would become a useful tool for everybody and give your people access to our intel as well (this is all we have, for the moment). I was not aware that we were engaged in any power struggles and am personally interested in cooperating with your group, but it's not really my call, it's up to everyone in the group. This group is 3 days old and is being built up from the ground by 5 people who have only just got together, it is very much in development, so please bear that in mind before attacking us again. And check your inbox in future. --Hatchet Man Jim 17:32, 18 May 2006 (BST)

Koppie, you are coming across as very aggressive. I don't know where you are getting the "power struggle" bit. Essentially the only service we are providing right now is that Hatchet man and I check the zombies once a day or so. I also shout out some pro-AMS slogans when I can spare the AP. Speaking of getting organized, will it step on anyone's toes if I make up some back story for the wiki? We can change it later. I would also like to add a "Courtesy Desk" section for revives. --Tamjin 11:23, 19 May 2006 (BST)

In my opinion everyone should be able to contribute whatever they want to the wiki, it's the first step towards growing and expanding. --Hatchet Man Jim 16:11, 19 May 2006 (BST)

I apologize if I came across as aggressive. I perceived your tactics as aggressive--spraypainting over our recruitment messages, posting in our forum only to advertise your own group, and trying to claim leadership of the Ackland survivors when we're a bigger and more experienced group. If that wasn't your intention, then I apologize for misinterpreting your actions. I appreciated Hatchet Man Jim's post in our forum today, that you're still considering a sub-forum. Just say the word and I'll set it up for you. --Koppie 18:33, 21 May 2006 (BST)

I accept your apology and offer my own to you, I'm sure any percieved agression on either side was a result of a lack of clear communication. To clarify one point you have raised, it has never been our intention to claim leadership over the survivors in Ackland, we merely exist as a group dedicated to helping anyone staying in the mall. I have been spraying our advertisements in the mall and will contine to do so, although I have been taking care not to spray over all of your messages - when you have your messages in all four corners I have no qualms about spraying over two. I look forward to working beside you in the mall. --Hatchet Man Jim 21:13, 19 May 2006 (BST)

Winning the War, instead of What is Happening Now

Things seem to be easing away from us in the NW corner. The zeds are accumulating slowly and we don't appear to be. I don't have a lot of experience on how we can turn this around. Some ideas.

1) Grafitti at Caiger, some of them seem bored. We can advertize that we have zeds to kill.

2) Spread some barricading love around the immediate area. Just up to heavy or so. This might keep the ferals busy and will save the us the wasted AP's when "can't find a place to put it". Plus if we can help the low-level survivors stay alive by giving them places to hole up they can level up and start to nibble at the horde

3) Pied Piper? Anyone have Feeding Groan as a Zed? Maybe we can attract some of the ferals away from the mall.

4) Save the Cades contest/ Ackland Idol? Maybe we can promote a radio-station like contest to be the second person to sing the Ackland Mall jingle after one of us shouts out "Where can I get something to eat?". Anything that will keep people active and looking at the NW corner. We could keep a list of prize winners on the wiki. Idea for a jingle "We have everything you want, at Ackland's Restaurant. Just around the corner from the Railroad Track, Kill a few zeds and have a snack, at Ackland's Restaurant" sung to the tune of Alice's Restaurant.

x5) (not a good strategy) I have tried sitting here at work checking in on Tamjin in the NW corner trying to catch an incursion as it happens to cade right away. The downside is that I am always near the top of the list and keep getting whacked.

Is it kosher for me to use my alt to advertize in Caiger? Does alt-abuse extend to the metagame?

- Tamjin

I've been doing as much barricading as I can in the NW, leading to my death on two occassions so far. Handily, the cemetary to the south seems to be well operated as a revive point and I was up and around (and breathing) within 24 hours. I think a recruitment drive at Caiger sounds like a good idea, not sure about using your alt though, it's not the kind of thing I have a problem with but it's a grey area and some people are pretty serious about that kind of thing. There are many groups out there that do not have a problem with multiple alts working for the same organisation, so long as they do not work together directly and stay in different areas. What you do with your alts is your decision in the end, but I don't have a problem with what you are suggesting. Regarding feeding groan, I have the skill but I don't think it will succeed in drawing out too many ferals, and since it is neccessary to be in the vicinity of at least one survivor (several if it is to be heard from a decent distance) it would likely mean the death of those people. -- Hatchet Man Jim

I check the Courtesy Desk a lot, so next time you croak make an entry and I will revive you. I have been revived off of there once, although the guy who revived me may have just been clearing the cemetery. I am going to give the Ackland IDol thing a shot. I think the basic rules should be that you sign up for a 30 minute slot and have to sing 3 verses. Contestants should strive for originality, lyrics and if you can dance to it. Winner will be determined by the number of "Bravos" or "Barhahs" the contest receives in their scoring window. I'll try yo stay alive, but saving a screen shot of your performance would be a good idea (Sing, logout for 30 minutes and save the screen shot). Sometime Friday/Saturday I will run up to Caiger and advertize both the presence of zeds and the Ackland Idol Contest. This way maybe we'll pull people and their buddies. --Tamjin 16:03, 24 May 2006 (BST)

Death from Caiger

Were a very small group who are starting to get bored with Caiger, and want to go out to Ridleybank and kill Z's. You seem like a good group to have on our side. We've been formed for a couple of days, and loads of people have complained, how stupid we are and stuff, one suggested we get other groups who are planning similar things to help. Well you seem to be close enough, and we need everyone in, would you be willing to help the attack against the zombies and win back Ridleybank. O, it is also in some peoples plans to get Ackland back, so we can help you with that. Stuape27

Palmann Hatchet Man Jim gives the final decision. But for me it's ok in clearing Ackland Mall from Zombies.

[Hatchet Man Jim] I've heard of you guys, the RRF were talking about you on their forums, they thought it was pretty funny the you asked DARIS for help. I'm not sure how successful any attack on Ridleybank can be, the RRF are a huge horde and it would take a hell of a lot of people to make them think about moving on. Still, if you want to go over there and blast a few of them then Ackland Mall is a good place to stock up on supplies before heading into Barrville and Ridleybank, whether any AMS personnel want to join you in blasting a few heads over there is up to them.

Radio

Palmann Now we have radio again. We should stablish our channel. It would be nice to broadcast with the senders name before the message. So, what frequency? Should we encrypt our messages? Give some ideas guys.

[Hatchet Man Jim] Grr, radios, more spam to listen to. Why do the transmitters also receive? I mean at least the hand-held ones you can choose if you want to listen or not. Pages and pages of nonsense spam...... Anyway, Ackland Mall Radio is 27.50 MHz, I'm not sure we need a redio station other than that, I know I've got nothing to talk about.

Recovery

Tamjin Havercroft is recovering nicely. 24 Hours straight in-suburb without dying, which is a lot better than West Becktown. I am currently barricading NE of the Mall. There are maybe 10 survivors around there. Anyone else want to schedule a meet in the food court?

Smithy Jones I think we should start a revive clinic as soon as Ackland Mall is back under human control. we need one seeing as we lost Ackland Mall to the Big Bash due to lack of revives 15:43 28 July 2006 [bst]

I want to join but...

[Masterded] I feel I might be way to low of a level. Would anyone have any objections to me joining your group? I am going to start heading to the mall (I am about 3 or 4 cities away). Thanks in advance no matter what your answer is. August, 30, 2006

Smithy Jones There is no level requirement need for joining AMS. Any level can join, it is just that it will be harder for you if you are a low level player. you have Pistol training and Free running so it wont be too hard

:IIRC I joined AMS around lvl 5. AMS needs members and you are more then welcome to join - 03:15, Aug 31st 2006

[Masterded] Cool then. I guess tomorrow I will start my trek to the mall.

Past Voting Results

Leader Nominations

First order of Business
we need a group Leader and we need to vote on who will be leader
They need to be quite active and not afraid to make decisions
But first we need somebody to be nominated before we can vote
Smithy Jones 03:22, 21 Sept 2006

as starting member of the group, i nominate smithy as first leader, followed by myself, then we switch on/off till we can get our members totally organized
Nuerotoxic2213 19:22, 21 Sept 2006

Ok So far we have one nomination, for myself(Smithy Jones), do we have another? there is 6 days left for any group member to nominate another Candidate for Leader. Then after the 6 days is when we will vote. BTW I am only going by what has already been stated. Term for Group leader will be 2 months just to be fair or unless we decide otherwise
On a Personal note: I could careless if I am elected leader seeing as whoever is elected Leader will become a Priority target of Zombies and PKers. But if I am elected, I will do my best to lead the group until the next election.
Smithy Jones 23:50, 21 Sept 2006

I would like to nominate Nuerotoxic2213 as group leader.
[Masterded] 23 Sept 2006

Ok so far we have 2 Nominations
Smithy Jones
Nuerotoxic2213
Do we have any other Nominations?
Smithy Jones 01:19, 23 Sept 2006

It has been a week and Nominations are over, now it is time to vote
so for Leader Candidates we have Smithy Jones and Nuerotoxic2213
election will end in 1 week and the candidate with the most votes wins so please vote now

Leader Election(9/28/06)

ok 2 candidates for leader
Smithy Jones and Nuerotoxic2213 - please vote for one or the other and have a nice day
Please vote here and just type the name of the candidate you want for leader

I vote for Smithy Jones. -Masterded

I too vote for Smithy Jones. -1006945

So far

• 2 Vote for Smithy
• 0 votes for Nuero

12 more hours left, please get your votes in

Ok voting is now over seeing as it has been a week

the winner is with 2 votes Smithy Jones, next elect will be in 2 months and have a nice day

Joining the NMC

Should we Join the New Malton Colossus?
If we join they, we can expect help and support when we need it
I dont see anything wrong with this seeing as C4NT is 1 of our Allies so I am in favor of this, if you are in favor Vote yes and if your against this Vote No

Yes

1. Smithy Jones
2. 1006945

No

1. Atticus Rex - I've got nothing against the New Malton Colossus, but we seem to have a fundamentally different view... they explicitly reject the idea of staking out and defending a home ground, and by our very name that's what we do. But call this a weak "no", because in the end, allies are allies, no matter what their ideology.
2. GhostStalker - I agree with the above statement. We should stay affilliated with the NMC, but the name of our group is Ackland Mall Security, which means that we stay primrily in Ackland and the surrounding areas.
3. Tamjin - Our group has a geographic "anchor" in Ackland Mall. The NMC does not. They are great guys and a lot of fun and I am all for stretching out with them every once in a while, but as a group we shoudl not commit to rolling around Malton. Unless that is the majority vote. T

Having been Open for a vote for almost 2 weeks it has been Decided that AMS will not join the New Malton Colossus by a vote of 2-3 by all members willing to vote.

Even though we will not be joining them we will still be on good relations with them as allies.

• Absolutely. -- Atticus Rex ^{AMP ' T} 06:00, 19 October 2006 (BST)

Martin Flamenco

Ackland Mall Security personel, my name is Martin Flamenco and I am participating in the 5th of November event, like you. Rather than using guns (I don't even carry one.), I am going to be acting as a moving doctor and reviver. Since I work alone, I was wondering if I could add you guys' profiles to my contacts, so I can revive you if I see you in a horde of zombies. If desired, I can remove them after the event if requested.

I have no problem with this. What say the rest of you guys. Anyways there is nothing really stopping us from having you put us on your contacts lists. Also if you want you can join up with AMS seeing as we are always looking for a few good people and seeing as you are a healer you would be prefect for the Medic Corp - Smithy Jones 14:22, 20th Oct 2006

• Agreed, we can always use more docs and syringers... I know I'm spending more time on my ass than on my feet this week. :) -- Atticus Rex ^{AMP ' T} 18:42, 20 October 2006 (BST)
  • I like to be polite in general. I'll probably get jotting down your names then. Thanks for the offer of recruitment, but I've been offered before. During the event I intend to be on a neutral stance with anyone I revive; if I'm in a group then I'm more likely to help a dead member then someone else, and that'd be a little rude after I'd asked them for their profiles. But I'll see after the event if I'm interested in joining a group. Thanks again for the profiles: May your bullets all have the names of the soon-to-be-deader on them. Martin Flamenco 20:46, 20 October 2006 (BST)

I hope you wont be mad because I have played with your site

This is Master B8 of Viva La Humanity (that is our wiki page, the other is our forum). We will be coming as aid to those in the mall. We know about pains and sufferings and we will help in all the ways we can. Please visit our forum at Viva LA Humanity. Please tell us about your situation so we can make the best plan of attack possible. Viva La Humanity, B8. Oh and I will turn your site back to normal but I just wanted a means of contact set up first. Thank you.

Command Structure

[ Smithy Jones ] we are gonna need a solid command structure if we want this to work

what I am suggesting is that we a main leader for the group, Head of Security. Followed by 3 other commanders.

The names for the 3 Squads are

• Base Ops
• Strike Team
• Medic Corps

Just pick which one suits you ther best and roll with it

Base Ops

Base Ops Squad are members of Ackland Mall Secuirty that have opted to Protect Ackland Mall and the Suburb of Havercroft. They will Cade Bulding according to the Havercroft Barracade Plan, make sure the Resource buildings have power and a working transmitter and to empty buildings of unwanted Zombies

Commander: TBD

Members:

• Nuerotoxic2213
• Palmann
• 1006945
• enniskillen
• a random mall cop
• Rune Drago
• Masterded

Strike Team

This Squad will operate where needed, whether it is to help another mall or rolling with the New Malton Colossus to help repel the Zombie threat.

Commander: TBD

Members:

• Smithy Jones

Medic Corps

The Medic Corps is very important, seeing as they will be responsible for Healing and Revivifaction. Without the FAKs and needles of this squad, AMS would be in trouble and a world of hurt.

Commander: TBD

Members:

• Atticus Rex
• Bakimono

Communist Republic of Bearpit

as a budding faction in your mall, i wish for peac between us so we can save our fair mall in these troubled time Vito the don

Assembling a Strike Team

Smithy Jones I want to make an AMS Strike Team its purpose will be to help AMS's Allies that are located outside of Havercroft The first mission for the AMS Strike Team will be to help the Blackmore Bastards seeing as they need all the help they can get. if you want to join the strike team just post your name here - 21:15 Sept 5,2006

Smithy, I am vacationing in Blackmore right now. Drop by for a beer if you are around. If you are in Ackland, kick my travel agent. Noone better take my chair while I am there!!! - Tamjin 02:15 Sept 6, 2006

Ah it seems we just missed each other cause I was there up until 1-2 weeks ago. Nuerotoxic needed some help up in Gatcombeton, after all we do have to take care of our own. I will be heading back after I get 2-3 more gerry cans - Smithy Jones 03:55, Sept 6, 2006

Strike Team Members

[Smithy Jones]

Things that need to be voted on

Groups Elections

Place items of business for vote here.

Past votes can be found in the archive.

It is that time again we will be holding group elections for Leader but this time it will be held on the Group forum http://acklandmall.proboards49.com/
All members are urged to join the forums - Smithy Jones 01:23, 12th December 2006

Misc. Notice Area

This area is for posting information that doesn't fit into an above subject.

Just a note from a passerby: I play a zombie who kills zombies. (http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=586357) ZKer? Zed griefer? Whatever, I am a zombie who beats on zombies. I am currently in the mall, closing doors every chance I get. I also occasionally make with random howls in the surrounding neighborhood to draw the undead away. When I have the AP handy, I beat on them. There are currently only ten zombies in the mall, including me. A very small number of survivors could retake this place. Want help? --Nosimplehiway

There seems to be a group known as Turban Dead operating in the area of Ackland Mall. I have seen taggings supporting this group on nearly every block around the mall. Their policy of shooting non-descripts on sight is bound to increase zombie numbers in the area. Anyone reading this who does not have a decription should correct this for your own safety.--1006945 06:23, 9 October 2006 (BST)

Smithy, I really appreciate the PR job you put in for us, spreading info both in the wiki and in the game. You are doing a great job. --Nivek 02:18, 17 October 2006 (BST)

Thanx Tamjin. anything to help the group grow and manage to work, as well make sure the mall is a safe Haven for Survivor but It might stay that way for long with Shacknews parting and starting a Mosh pit in the mall. it also seems a few ot them want to snack on my brains but I am playing hard to get - Smithy Jones 02:28, 17 October 2006 (BST)

Maybe it is my imagination, but the zeds seem awfully feisty right now. Or maybe its is that I can't get a decent night's rest inside the NW Corner! If I am not in the mall please look for me at the cemetery. It would be easier to just announce when I am alive. Caiger can take care of itself. Nivek 02:02, 27 October 2006 (BST)

We need to get our act together people. We seem to be nothing more then a name. In little to no way a real group. Only SmithJones seems to be on top of things. The rest of us (including me) seem to be doing little for the group. We need to become more organized, we need to have a reason people should join us. We need plans for when zombies attack. We need a better way for us to request revives. We need to be a strong group that Zombies fear and people respect. I hate to say it, but we need a forum. I know we are small but this discussion page is getting to crowded and way out dated. It is time we rise up and become the group of Ackland mall. I respect C4NT but damit we should have been the people coming up with plans and getting people ready for when the zombies came. Hells if we would have been on top of are game we would all be better off today. So let’s do it. Lets become what we need to be. Masterded 31 October 2006

I agree. I admittedly have not been much help. I can try to explain it away that it is only because I have spent the last week standing in a cemetary (turned mosh-pit,) but before that all I could really do is fetch Fuel Cans and reinforce barracades. Maybe with a more effective means of communication, like a Forum as you suggested, we might be able to coordinate ourselves with more... accuracy. --1006945 02:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok I just put up the the group Message Board at [2] Feel free to sign up right now the Forum is just in the start up phase. it will be ready soon Smithy Jones 4:43, 3 November 2006

The Last Call for Liberty

Your pledge to the V for Ridleybank cause has not gone unheard. View the last words of Codename V at the 5th of November page before the liberation of Malton's heartland. I have spoken once more to rally and excite you in this time of vengence! --Codename V 04:52, 13 October 2006 (BST)

Oy Vey. The 5th is coming up isn't it. I am feeling quite whipped right now. When Blackmore fell, it fell hard. Three weeks of R&R back at the mall should help perk me up. Just as long as the Big Bash doesn't show up in Havercroft again. Shudder. --Nivek 23:49, 13 October 2006 (BST)

Ackland Mall Security Category

Someone awhile back created a Ackland Mall Security Category and and noticed that this page Ackland Mall Security/Recruitment on the uncategorized list, so I thought I would add that page and the other ones by your group into the Ackland Mall Security Category. Let me know if you guys mind. Vantar 04:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Revivification Points

Your group/organization are attributed on the List of Revivification Points for maintaining the following RP(s) whose status have not been updated recently and are scheduled for deletion from the list:

• Havercroft a cemetery 31, 47

Please make sure to update the status and timestamp of your RP(s) at least once every two weeks. Thank you! --Gilant ^talk-DEM 23:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Gilant. Have updated, and will try to keep up on it. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 18:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Extremely wonderful.

I don't know why everyone's getting their panties in a twist, but it appears that Ackland's fallen, and you're blaming it on us. Well, personally, I don't care. If I could, I would have rendered assistance, but I'm far away from Ackland. I just hate all these fucking wars.

Read: IT'S A GAME. Not a real fucking live zed invasion. Have fun treating it like a real war. Doctor Birkin 15:03, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Futz

It would be really nice if this Futz person would not pick fights with a leader in the Malton Rangers don't ya think? just tell him to cool it. and were all good.----Sexualharrison ^{MR• ה •T} 20:34, 29 June 2007 (BST)

I'd just like to point out that Futz is not a member of AMS,hence we have no control over him.Sorry. --Enniskillen 13:04, 5 July 2007 (BST)

Tis true, friend. You annoyed me, so I picked a fight with you. Leave AMS out of it though, mate; this is just a personal vendetta, not anything to do with the group whom I'm not even a member of. --Aguyuno 03:47, 10 July 2007 (BST)

Havercroft Security Zone Proposal

Please keep in mind that this is the 1st draft, and we are still after 4 months writting all this out BUT

we do have a pretty sound and logistically strategic way of dividing the Suburb into 4 main zones(pretty much 5x5 squares with varriations to accomidate rescource building) each secured by one of the 4 Most Active groups in Havercroft(A.M.S,Crimson Clan,Cadieus Maximus,and the H.M.D.S). Other survivor groups will also play a role in security, as hopefully will civillians. Our plan is still being written, but a rough draft of the zones, and newly proposed revive points(2 the same, 1 moved, 1 new)are avaliable on my profile. Our fully outlined proposal will be avaliable within the next day or two.Please let me know if your Clan is interested --BLooDCLotT 06:30, 20 August 2007 (BST)

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