UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Taco2 vs Iscariot

Taco2 v. Iscariot

Excuse me, I'm new so I apologize if I did anything wrong. One of the administrators here (In the UK Rage) came into my talk page and started leaving me abusive and foul messages because I didn't do something on my page correctly. In addition to calling me all kinds of rude names, tHis person also made threats to "run me off the wiki." I would like to report this person's behavior because this is the kind of thing that makes people leave and no longer participate. YOu can read it on my talk page under "admin pages." I will refrain from responding to this person any longer. Thank you for treating my complaint seriously. Sincerely, --Taco2 19:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't start this case, so I really fucking suggest you remove my name from being first. Also, did you move this from misconduct and remove my comment for no reason? Because that is vandalism and could lead to you getting banned. Or did you start a brand new case and remove an in progress misconduct case? Because that's vandalism as well.

I'll deal with the rest of the amusement of this case when you've sorted all of that. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I imstructed him to remove the misconduct case of a non-sysop and bring it to the relevant page. A/M is not for disputes like this.

20:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

So it's a move and he removed my comment? Bob seems to think that's vandalism. Why is this still titled as if I started it? I consider that impersonation, which is another count of vandalism. --

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FFS... "Did you just report yourself for misconduct? Do you remember what I said about reading the page before you posted? --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)" - From previous mispost on A/M.

20:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, can we now deal with him changing the header? As he's changed it without note it makes my comment nonsensical and is therefore yet another count of impersonation. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

He did exactly what you asked him to do. Stop being a fucking pedant. By the way this comment and yours now count as notice that the header once read "Iscariot vs Taco2" and now is in reverse.

20:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Spot who's gotten snotty with power. I await him to progress with the case, as he can't even start a case in the correct manner I shall sit back and wait for the comedy to start. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Or, you know, who understands manners. Anyway, he's progressed. He asked for an apology and for you to let him be. If you don't want to give him either, start naming arbitrators.

20:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It appears I'm just an innocent bystander in this person's angry vengeful crusade against some people in charge here. I apologize for whatever page I may have inadvertantly messed up. It wasn't purposeful. But, whatever it is I did, I am quite sure that it can't be in any way as disruptive as letting this person go around and leave his foul and abusive grafitti on new user's talk pages. I have a child and we were having fun playing this, but I don't want her to read this kind of stuff, especially having someone call her mother a "cunt." Can it please be hidden in some way. Thank you.--Taco2 20:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It's perfectly acceptable for you, or any user, to remove comments on their own talk pages, as those are considered personal spaces for their owners. If you wish to censor or remove anything you don't wish on your talk page, you're perfectly within your bounds to do so.

20:47, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

If you want to take a screen capture of it as evidence, go ahead. My daughter isn't here today. I'll wait until you tell me to delete it. BTW, you are very professional and I appreciate your assistance. You restore my interest in continuing to participate with my UD Wiki activity. I hope I can do so without any further harassment from this individual. Happy Holidays again!--Taco2 20:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead and do it now. All pages have a history of logs, so we can access previous versions of a page should we need to.

20:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

What would you seek as the result of this arbitration? Mutual barring from each others' talk pages and from non-vital response to each others' comments elsewhere seems to me a good compromise. If both parties want to agree to this off the bat we can settle this, if not you'll both need to decide on an arbitrator to settle things in more detail.

20:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I don't know who this person is. I would like an apology (but I doubt I will get that). So, if there is a way to stop this person from harassing me any further, that would be acceptable to me. P.S. I never left any messages on this person's page. And it seems that they just revel in abusing new people and I'm just a new target. Seems to me the kind of person that likes to pull the legs off spiders. I'm a woman, by the way. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Peace on Earth and Goodwill toward men and women.--Taco2 20:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, happy new year and all that. If you wish to have him barred from your talk page, then this is the place to do so. I offer to arbitrate in this case.-- Adward 21:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to Arbitrate. personally, I'd recommend Mis, because he's been going along with this case, but he isn't on the list of arbies, so he may not want to. I also doubt Iscariot will let him.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I believe I'll take a page from MisterGame's play book and not accept Mis, Drawde or Yonnua as arbitrator. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 22:24, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great idea, works too, at least you eventually gave up out of an obvious disinterest. This case isn't necessary anyways, unless you somehow have the need to continue to contact her (don't). --

Thadeous Oakley

22:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I hate everyone and would LOVE for a few people needing arbies to pick me, as no one ever does. PLEASE PICK ME GUYS I KNOW THE DAMN TALK PAGE RULES AND PRECEDENTS.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I reject you as arbitrator on grounds that you hate me. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 05:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I accept your rejection with a heavy heart and a sad soul.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 11:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I will also volunteer to arbitrate. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 06:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Me too, though I expect to witness the second coming of Christ, as an atheist, before Iscariot accepts me.--

Thadeous Oakley

23:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have asked Taco2 about the continuation of this case. This to prevent this case to sit inactive for a month, as happened in the past. --Thadeous Oakley 23:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate. -- C h e e s e 23:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate as well. Also, I suggest that if both parties agree to arbitration but refuse to select an arbitrator in a timely manner, an arbitrator should be chosen by an uninvolved sysop from among the many users who have already volunteered. Arbitration shouldn't be circumvented by a staunch refusal by either party to select a willing and qualified candidate for arbitration.--_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 19:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

It's been done before, unfortunately, there's no policy against it. However, I think there may be precedent for a representative to be chosen for a party that is not cooperating, but I haven't found a case in particular that uses this measure. That said, the whole point of arbitration is for two upset parties to settle their differenes, not for punishments to be handed down. It's a mediation tribunal, not a courtroom. Linkthewindow Talk 01:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Wow, iscariot can be an asshole even towards wikinewbies... congratulations, mate. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 23:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

"Even"? Flaming newbies is what an Iscariot does best. Cyberbob Talk 00:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Read some of Taco2's history guys, Iscariot's hostility isn't entirely undeserved (although she did overreact.) On this note it's been more then two weeks since this thing got started, so unless Taco2 or Iscariot want this to continue it, I'll archive it in a couple of days. Linkthewindow Talk 09:57, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so saying (and I quote) "Why don't you take a flying f*** off a bridge?" is an acceptable way to speak to someone who is new to these forums? I don't think that anybody at all deserves to be spoken to that way, especially by a senior member of this wiki. If Iscariot can't handle her frustration, she shouldn't have the responsibilities that she does. --Chekken 17:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but more and more it seems to be implied that Iscariot underwent a sex-change. Can anyone confirm this allegation? --

Thadeous Oakley

18:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I apologize. I saw someone else write that Iscariot is a "she" and so I assumed (erroneously) that he was a she. Dude, looks like a lady. --Chekken 05:20, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Clearly, it's because there are No girls on the internet. ;] -- Adward 17:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

But this is not the way to respond to someone who was being quite helpful. I agree that Iscariot overreacted, but his reaction wasn't unwarranted, like some are implying. And Iscariot doesn't have any responsibilities. Linkthewindow Talk 01:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I just realized that this arby case has been open since December with absolutely no activity from either Iscariot or Taco. Is it common for cases to be held up this much? Chex 06:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry- I'll be archiving this soon. --