User talk:Janus Abernathy/Archive/2

14 January 2009 - 07 May 2009

fyi

asking iscariot a question about the administration staff will only be answered with his "version" of things. A really twisted version of things. If a sysop could dismiss a deletion request, another could overturn his decision and allow a request to carry on being voted on. My arbitration case against him was dismissed since there was no point having my contested edits being restored, as karek's recent edits to the page have made then useless. If anyone were to wish the arbitration case to continue, that would me since it was my edits that got removed and unable to be restored for the duration of the arbie. And iscariot routine maintenance of his talk page is how he calls how he removes comments of users he doesnt like from his talk page. Had to reply this here, because this would've been removed from izzy's talk page faster than a sandwich in a room full of hungry somaliis. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 23:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Well of course it'll be my 'version' everything, what with me speaking for myself and all....

Yes, a sysop contesting a deletions request, because we know how well the misconduct procedure works with sysops judging themselves....

The arbitration wasn't dismissed, it was removed, note the difference.

It wasn't Hagnat's edits that got the arbitration case brought, it was the content, as the Jorm case I referenced (and Hagnat conveniently ignored) proves, content supersedes edit.

I am entitled by policy to remove any edits from my talk page that I dislike. I don't recall reading the one that allows Hagnat to remove the cases from Arbitration that he dislikes without censure or archiving. Notice how he won't put the case back.

Also notice that I don't use an ethnic slur as a witty punchline... --

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Yeah, I'm aware that I'm asking Iscariot's version of things :)

Hagnat, can you tell me what do you think of the current situation? --Janus ^talk 12:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

One of the major points of asking Iscariot anything on his talk page is that any dissenting view just gets deleted. He won't let us give our answer to his outrageous allegations there, and yet he stalks other users talk pages (sysops mainly, what's the bet they're watchlisted?), free to answer as he will. Does that not show you the weakness of, if not his position, then his nature? -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:40 16 January 2009 (BST)

Why are they outrageous? Anyway, Iscariot wrote this: I direct you to Nubis' comment below "But as you can plainly see Iscariot has a boner for me and is stalking my talk page", yes, indeed, something appears on my watch list because I've posted there before and I'm stalking him. --Janus ^talk 12:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

They're outrageous because he disallows any rebuttal. Despite the fact that I had never done anything to warrant summary deletion of my posts on his talk page (in fact it was my first edit to his page) he deleted my polite answer to the bullshit he was spouting about "what sysops should do" (basically, what sysops should do is whatever Iscariot demands). Do you really want me to go and look at his page, and copy and paste my rebuttals to his numerous examples of crappage to your talk page, and to anyone else's talk page that I may think is interested? A waste of my fucking time! He refuses to allow me to post there, where he makes his idiot allegations, knowing that they can't be answered by those who actually know the reasons that they made whatever decisions he disagrees with today -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:18 16 January 2009 (BST)

That's not how watchlists work. For a page to be listed in a user watchilist, he must manually add it to the list by pressing the watch button. Simply posting in a user's talk page wont do the trick. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Liar. --

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I don't think he was trying to lie, more just being uninformed about said function.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Holy shit! If I checked that option, I'd have half the wiki on my watchlist by now! Nice way to avoid the issue though... that Iscariot feels free to edit any other users talk page he feels like, but selectively censors his own to stifle opposition to his own conspiracy theories -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 15:40 16 January 2009 (BST)

I have that option ticked off and I have 2,786 +1 pages on my watchlist. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 17:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah its always suprised me when people are all like "that stalker probably has this page watchlisted", i have everything watchlisted :)--x o x o 22:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

We couldnt have a better moment in this wiki. There are no active vandals, there are no raging battles between groups all over the wiki (there is a dispute between the Umbrella groups, but its resumed to only a few pages they own), The only really troubling user we had was Grim's, who was attempting to enforce his rule on all others and driving away those whom he didnt like, and he was defeated. We are in a period where things could be done instead of argued, but iscariot is simply being a total ass and ruining the moment. He claims its the sysops fault that users are being driven away, when the only sysop who was responsible for such is now gone... and izzy thinks he was the only good sysop! We now have to create new policies to cover the loopholes iscariot is abusing, we are having long discussions and having to waste time on the whims of a single user who thinks knows better than the rest of the community! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually Hagnat, you can edit your preferences to make it where any page you edit is added to your watchlist. That's how I have it set up, and I don't even use my list. I just look at the recent changes since my last edit. It helps when your RC is the last 2.5K edits.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Ooops... been so long since i last change my settings that i didnt remembered such option was available. HAHHA... Disregard that, i suck cocks. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

S'okay. Just thought I'd point it out to you.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

You too heh? That sure is getting popular 'round these parts.--x o x o 23:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I thought my ears were burning. Let me clear up a few things.

I stalk Recent Changes - Not Iscariot. Him posting my line in the Summary caught my attention and since Hag had used it on Issy I thought he would enjoy that if he hadn't seen it already.
My position on a sysop being able to refuse a deletion vote is because I know what the goons did and would have been capable of doing. I also know that they will be back and that DHPD won't be their only target. If Kevan himself hadn't vetoed the meat puppet policy the Goons were planning on brute forcing The DHPD into being a Historical Group. We could have done it.
Also, that was posted on a discussion page. You know, kind of like a talk page where people are allowed to express their opinions, but somehow anything I post on a talk page that is my opinion is just another example of me trying to oppress the masses. Somehow, I'm not allowed to have an opinion since I am a sysop. (not a moderator as he points out repeatedly) It's not like I am editing the criteria with out a policy. I'm just asking how others see that situation. Kind of like you asking Iscariot his opinion on the sysop situation.
I think the point I made about it being used as a weapon is valid. I think the point I made about the image AmberWaves specifically is valid since it didn't meet speedy delete criteria. I also know that I won't disagree with the deletion of the AmberWaves image because Dave Grohl was the user that had the stupidest argument with Grim over Text Rape. Oh no! an actual example of me letting my opinion of a user dictate my actions!
Yet, I'm stalking him, and he's doing nothing wrong. - If you honestly think that he is doing nothing wrong then that is your opinion. You are entitled to it. But now you have at least some of my side of the situation. --– Nubis ^NWO 15:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

FYI, sysops have already refused deletions votes. Like me. I can show you. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 17:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Nubis: If you honestly think that he is doing nothing wrong then that is your opinion. You are entitled to it. But now you have at least some of my side of the situation.-– Image:dead_like_zed.gif Nubis The Vexed 15:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC) If you're referring to me I can assure you that I'm trying to get everyone's point of view. And if you want to write more about this matter you're more than welcome :) (i.e.: the arbitration case removed) --Janus ^talk 13:01, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Hagnat: we are having long discussions and having to waste time on the whims of a single user who thinks knows better than the rest of the community! If I'm not mistaken, what Iscariot is trying to say is that the current sysop team is not acting on behalf of the community. Please, correct me if I'm wrong :) --Janus ^talk 18:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

So it's pretty much, argument wise, an "I am" "No, I am!" "Nuh uh!" "Uh huh" sort of thing. Actions wise, whole nother story.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

coming from a user who misconducted two sysops because they gave a user a chance to reform by removing his perma-ban, a user who created an arbitration case against a newbie and claims its the sysops fault that new users are going away from the wiki, a user who is the only one against in a miriad of vouches ub the promotion of suicidalangel, a user who voted keep on the deletion request of a clearly misplaced signature template, a user who advertised the location of the big brother building in the entire wiki when several users wished it to remain a secret... how can such a user knows what is that this community wants ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 19:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

He also made a misconduct case for getting his own warning struck 7 edits early, voted keep on a bunch of pages that were merged into one and that the creator himself wanted deleted, moved pages from A/SD to A/D (when they weren't going to be deleted) so that he could vote and save them (lol), put several established pages up to be moved to start drama, and is just generally hostile. Haha it's like a flashback episode where all the characters sit around and reminisce :) --– Nubis ^NWO 20:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The Big Brother house thing was also advertised by me and several others you know. I'm sick and tired of him being the only one that got credit for that! :/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suicidalangel (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

You did it too, but only after iscariot advertised it to everyone, and it was done when it was already useless to have izzy remove the location from his sig. So it had little to no impact in the whole drama --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 20:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm actually quite disappointed that he didn't accept the Promotions nomination. Some of the stuff Isc does Could be good. I really enjoyed User:Iscariot/No More Heroes, which had many good points, although wrapped up in a slightly angry rant. Come on Isc. How do we become more welcoming to the newbs? ( I didn't have time to ask you before your bid was closed.) --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 19:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Ross, watch out trying to compliment him. The few times I've actually tried to defend him by listing his good points he threatened to sue me for libel.--– Nubis ^NWO 20:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm always nice. besides I'd like him to answer the kwestion. Would I vote for Isc? No, do I want him to explain the alternative to the current system and people? Yes. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 20:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

That's the thing about Iscariot. He's a really smart guy when he wants to be, and when I first arrived on the wiki (~six months ago,) he was a well-respected editor around Developing Suggestions. However, for some reason, of late, he's just become annoying :/. Linkthewindow Talk 13:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The above

Rather than going into an angry rant I think I'll just say this:

Don't bother asking anyone's opinion in the matter, Iscariot is an issue that either pisses people off or is him commenting. Just read through some of the stuff he's done in A/MR, A/VB, Talk:Recruitment('specially the second archive), and Arbitration(You'll probably have to look over archives here too). I'd guide you to A/M as well but the archives there are much harder to navigate.

At this point no one will be able to answer your question better than you, especially not Iscariot or the Sysops on this one, you'll have to do the leg work and reach your own conclusion. My only request is that you be sure to look into the background of the cases and the rules as well, and not just the letter of them. Not only will it benefit you as an editor it will help your understanding of why some of us rule how we do and some of the arguments we have over those rulings. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 14:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I've been looking through the admin pages (and some of the archives) these last weeks, in order to 'make' my own opinion about this. I'm very interested about everyone (or at least the ones who answer)'s current point of view though; that's why I've been asking Iscariot, Hagnat etc. :) --Janus ^talk 18:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Lady C

So, you're the guy falsely accusing me of zerging eh? I've long been acquitted by THEM. x --Lady Clitoria 18:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

First of all, please create a new header if you're writing something not related to the above discussion. Thanks.

Secondly, what I did was reverting your edit on another group's page (THEM DNR LIST). This means I wasn't acting as a member of THEM, but as a wiki user.

Thirdly, please give me proof we (THEM) acquitted you.

Fourthly, I'm a girl.

:P --Janus ^talk 19:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

NecroNet, eh?

You might be interested in NecroWatch then ;). Linkthewindow Talk 13:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

On another note Template:Azsalpha is up for Speedy Deletion. Just thought I would let you know, in case you plan on using it. Linkthewindow Talk 04:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

And even moar!

	A FREE COOKIE
	Linkthewindow has given Janus Abernathy a cookie for for helping the orphans (pages, that is.)

On another note, don't forget about Special:Uncategorizedcategories. It doesn't need to be checked as often, though (and some categories can't be "broken down" further) :). Linkthewindow Talk 06:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... There appears to be no such blank on my browser. What browser are you using, that could be it. I'll load the page in IE. Linkthewindow Talk 15:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Checked. No offense, but you page renders really badly on IE. It could be the screen resolution (although I doubt it, I'm using 1680*1050, fyi,) or the wiki skin. Linkthewindow Talk 15:16, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol. Occam's Razor. And, yeah, IE fails. Hard. Linkthewindow Talk 15:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it for the most part. To make it look better, it will take more than page width of the AZS teams to do it.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 15:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, are you using FF 3?--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 15:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, I'm using FF3 (not 3.0.5). --Janus ^talk 16:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thought so. My user page had the same problem, and I found out it was FF 3.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 16:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

How odd. I'm using FF3 and your user page looks fine. If you've got a moment and are using FF2-could that be the problem with my user page (I think it's resolution, but meh.) Linkthewindow Talk 16:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Link, if I zoom out your page it looks fine. Maybe we should go back to FF2.. :| --Janus ^talk 16:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

It seems more and more like the better thing to do, but I already have my settings set up and everything. :( --Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 16:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Dang :| However, changed back to FF2. Link's user page looks fine. --Janus ^talk 16:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I DID just fix it in FF 3. I guess it translates to FF2 quite easily.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 16:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

You fixed Link's user page? --Janus ^talk 17:05, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I made it look okay in FF 3. If he does not like my changes, then he can always revert it. If you look up there, he asked me to look at it in FF 2, but I don't have it, so I fixed the problem in FF 3.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 17:19, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

It also looks good in IE. Two points for me!--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 17:29, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I haven't noticed. Cool :) --Janus ^talk 20:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

The categories are categorized just like normal pages-just type [[Category:Example Category]] at the top of the page. Linkthewindow Talk 02:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Uranium

BOMBS--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:06, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

U r an evil spammr :( --Janus ^talk 17:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: AZS

Hi. I'll register in a few minutes. Thanks for reply

--Nonchip 14:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Journal: C Whitty

Can I have it as Journal: C Whitty

Is that ok? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by C Whitty (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

deletion of page

uhhh- could you put that recent speedy deletion page back and perhaps get rid of the other one? A friend of mine set that original page up, not me. So i can't play with it etc. Hence why i created one of my own and moved the working portion of the code to there so I could play with it some more. BULLDOG (MY sig is all messed up)

Uh- how do i create subpages? My wiki skills are horrible. BD

your sig

i think the guideline says something about the max height being 14px... please, make yours smaller --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [mod]} 21:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Brainstock

Since they're spamming your thread there, I thought I'd do so here:

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 08:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Project NecroWatch

A.L.I.C.E. - NecroNet 2.0

Greetings Janus Abernathy/Archive/2. I have been observing you. Do not be alarmed. I have analyzed your potential and determined that you would make a perfect test subj<<ERROR>> NecroTechnician. As an organization, NecroWatch requires absolutely no "group" affiliation or commitments, thus freeing you to act according to your own motives, desires, and goals. The only requirement from you as a NecroTechnician is the task of reporting NecroNet scans from facilities within your suburb(s). Even then you would have the choice of how often you complete this task or which facilities you would prefer to work with. If you are interested in joining all you need to do is confirm your membership by signing up here. As of January 1st 2008 all NecroNet scans reported to NecroWatch by licensed NecroTechnicians will count towards ranks with the ultimate prize of earning delicious cake.

Deletion of 10 minutes from hell/policies

Is the template you added necessary? I would think it would be placed only on pages that would require a vote. This page was a page I created and only I used. It shouldn't require a vote at all since I am the one requesting the deletion. --Lois ^{talk 10MFH} 13:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

You should start a collection...

	A FREE COOKIE... OF EVIL!
	Linkthewindow has given Janus Abernathy an evil cookie for for helping with the great suburb group massacre. Go on... eat it.

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It was a little different >.> Linkthewindow Talk 05:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:o COLLECSHUN! Thanks! --Janus ^talk 14:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

As Requested

It's big so I won't put it in, here's the link to the screenshot: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2638/urbandeadthecity1236054.png -- Grogh 01:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

delete Kergistan

go ahead and do it my friend.

UC/Group Massacre

I already confirmed Umbrella's activeness on the main group talk page. I never realised our U.B.C.S group was being utilised on the suburb group listings under the Independent Militairy Services page or the fact a second Suburb group massacre inquiry was asked... Hell I still don't even know why our UCC is even up there O_o. I assumed since our U.B.C.S is a subgroup of Umbrella and since I had already confirmed its activeness, that there would not be any problems. Meh! Thanks any Janus. --D.E.A Talk 17:17, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

No worries! Asking organizations is quite messy actually :) --Janus ^talk 17:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

_{With apologies for stalking your talk page}

I agree, organizations are quite messy. Next time, I think we should make a note of that when we check their page. Linkthewindow Talk 13:09, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Won't be necessary. I've removed U.B.C.S and the UCC from Ruddlebank's group listings. Turns out there was no need for them even being added. From now on, its just a simple case of enquiring Umbrella's activeness only. Should make things easier :) --D.E.A Talk 13:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Good to know. Thanks! --Janus ^talk 13:52, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Eric bessette

He just blanked his page (talk page too.) Do you know if he really wants them gone, or is it just a random vandal? Linkthewindow Talk 06:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Recruitment page edits

Thanks for the help! --YoHoho^Talk 21:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember what I've done, but you're welcome anyway. ;) --Janus ^talk 15:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Those Dudes/Group Massacre

Goodness! That'll teach me not to log onto the Wiki for two months, now won't it? lol. Anyway, our name and TAW (The Abandoned Warriors) names have been added back to the Mornington Suburb Page. Both groups are active, just a little lax about the Wiki thingy, that confuses many of us to no end :-) --Mrite 22:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Annus

Thanks for the message Janus. Pleased that someone appreciates my efforts. Finally getting to grips with the wiki. Let's hope I get some members! x --Lady Clitoria 14:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

=[

Don't take it personally, I've had bad experiences with incorrect and ridiculous redirects lately thats all =[ D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:30, 29 March 2009 (BST)

The Fortress

Hey Janus! I got the following message on our wiki page (unsigned, but understood):

Hi. I'm Dark Butters from the Anti-Zombie Squad. We are a pro-survivor group settled in the suburb of West Grayside. We've been looking to gain some allies with our growing numbers, so wondered if you would be interested in joining up with us. So let me or one of the leaders let us know. Either message the forum http://antizombiesquad.forumup.it/index.php?mforum=antizombiesquad or visit the wiki Anti-zombie_squad. Thanks again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dark Butters (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

I don't know much about your group, but I'm always up for making new friendships. Do you have an IRC channel where we can chat? You're also welcome on our forum, if you need the address PM me on Brainstock. Good luck out there and Stay Vigilant! ~ Prep ^{Fortress - BS}22:17, 6 April 2009 (BST)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:File-Cinemaaustralia.jpg

is a dupe of this. Also, I don't know if you've saw this either. :) --D.E.A Talk 16:36, 9 April 2009 (BST)

Nay, didn't see them. Thanks! :) --Janus ^talk 20:42, 9 April 2009 (BST)

Perzeus

Greetings Janus,

I'm fairly new the Wiki, so my apology on that part ^_^' Regards the following:

Janus Abernathy said:

User pages need the user prefix :) You already have one (well, two), User:Perzeus and User:Perzeus2; the one you've just created isn't going to be moved, just deleted methinks.

I have several questions, since the name Perzeus could not be registered on the wiki, I picked the name Perzeus2, though I am wondering whether I could sign things with the name Perzeus and link to the User:Perzeus2. Since that part confused me, that is also the reason why I now have two pages... I kinda got lost in the woods. ^_^'

Thank you in advance. Regards, Perzeus2 22:02, 19 April 2009 (BST)

Greetings Janus,

Many many thanks for the help :) and Perzeus4You would probably be me, although I cannot remember when I registered that one...

Perzeus 20:53, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Thanks...

Anytime, Janus! We love to help the locals :) --Haliman - Talk 22:19, 19 April 2009 (BST)

Thanks!

thanks for the help! Supflidowg 23:48, 23 April 2009 (BST)

JESUS!

LOOK AT RC! --Haliman - Talk 02:12, 24 April 2009 (BST)

LOL. Well, don't do EVERYTHING on your own... :P --Haliman - Talk 20:53, 24 April 2009 (BST)

.*Note to self,* Do NOT stalk RC anymore... --Haliman - Talk 20:40, 26 April 2009 (BST)

dryalski

yes please wasnt quite sure how to do it Dryalski the doomed 15:25, 7 May 2009 (BST)