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Welcome to the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:MostLinkedPages most-linked User Talk page] on the wiki!
Welcome to the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:MostLinkedPages most-linked User Talk page] on the wiki!
You can also reach me at the '''[https://discord.gg/qKr8WZH UDWiki Discord]''', where I hang out, like, all the time.


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== Danger Updater! ==
== Thanks! ==
 
I am volunteering my alt {{User:EvelynEmrys/CloverSig}} to the cause of the Danger updater! I'm working through [[Judgewood]] at the moment. I have to stay away from [[Grigg Heights]] but my original account can handle that burb.
 
I'm setting Clover's group as "Danger Updater" to hopefully keep from getting PK'd. Sound good?
 
--<span style="border:1px solid green; background:green">[[User:EvelynEmrys|<span style="background:lightgreen; color:darkgreen; font-family:Times New Roman">&nbsp;&bull;'''Evelyn Emrys'''&bull;&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:EvelynEmrys|<span style="background:darkgreen; color:lightgreen">&nbsp;&bull;''[talk]''&bull;&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 19:27, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:Awesome and thanks! I've got my alt DangerUpdater listed with the same group tag. That alt mostly wanders the city as a zombie, but I've gotten combat revived quite a few times in [[suburb|green suburbs]] anyway. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:13, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
:: Sounds good then. I'm not usually too concerned other than it impedes tracking zombie/survivor presence at times. Oh! I also made a UDWIki Page outline: [[Malton Danger Updaters]] . Once I've got time I can input more design and stuff. --{{User:EvelynEmrys/Evesig}} 18:09, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
:::I saw that, thanks! I'm also on a time crunch this month (being an adult is hard...) but will hopefully be able to work on it in the next week or two. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
:::: You said it! adulting is hard! {{User:EvelynEmrys/Evesig}}20:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::Try Adulting with Children [[User:Levi Romero|Commandant Romero]] ([[User talk:Levi Romero|talk]]) 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 
Ok, just set up [[Malton Danger Updaters]] basic page frame. Will comment further on Evelyn's talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:05, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
== Dangee Updatee ==
 
Yo! My main Levi Romero has Gatcombeton covered [[User:Levi Romero|Levi Romero]]06:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
:Sweet! Thank you so much ^_^ {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 09:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


== A/DE transclusions ==
Thank you for the tip on the signature Bob, I am very new when it comes to wiki editing so all the advice helps--[[User:Admiral|Admiral]] ([[User talk:Admiral|talk]]) 12:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
:No worries! It can take a bit of getting used to but I'm available if you run into any snags. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 14:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


I guess it must have been used as a transclusion system to mimic how A/VB used to be done when there was more traffic. At the time there were lots of 'career vandals' who would want de-escalations so I guess it made sense for the time. No need now though I would say. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 23:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome Bob, I actually played UD a while back and me and my friends are just getting back into it. We're thinking about scoping out Fort Creedy and working on it slowly but surely. We're not sure if we'll base ourselves out of Pegton or Edgecombe but I figured I have AP so I'd update the Danger Map as much as possible while I'm at it. [[User:Asuka_Shikinami|<b style="color:#FF0000"><sub>Asuka</sub></b>]][[User talk:Asuka_Shikinami|<b style="color:#800000"><sup>Unit-02 Pilot</sup></b>]] 19:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
:Ehh, no harm's being done. I'll change it over at next year's cycling. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 09:21, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:Sure thing! Creedy can be a dangerous place, so be prepared for a fight. But I'm sure you know that! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
::Good work. Yeah you're right, no harm done, though it is a comical look into how different things seem to be to how they were 5 years ago! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 23:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
:::5 years ago there would have been a 3 week long heated discussion, with one Misconduct case against Bob for transcluding it, one for not transcluding it, one against the whole sys-op team but Bob for not stepping in, three semi-related Arbitrations over non-issues during the heated discussions, Woots monthly sys-op bid, another fruitless civility policy discussion because some mean words would be used, and some vandal b&ing against Mis for replacing the template with a duck pic. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"></span>]]</span>''' 23:23, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
::::[[File:Duckling01.jpg|100px]] {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 08:46, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::If you want your actions to come across as Mis-like, you need two more things:
:::::*Much bigger duck picture
:::::*Blatant disregard of the rules when it comes to minor violations.
:::::Allow me to demonstrate with my next edit. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:46, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
::::::Not quite what I was going for. I'm more for littering a trail of tiny [[File:Duckling01.jpg|100px]] than one giant one. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:56, 23 January 2016 (UTC) [[File:Duckling01.jpg|40px]] [[File:Duckling01.jpg|40px]] [[File:Duckling01.jpg|40px]] [[File:Duckling01.jpg|40px]] [[File:Duckling01.jpg|40px]]


== What in the actual-? ==
Thanks for the welcome Bob, I am a newbie. I was a bit busy finding NT facilities and updating Danger Status. Can you tell me whether the resources regenerate when it is taken away by a survivor from its original location? And anything from my side, just ask. [[User:Necrotech54|Necrotech54]] ([[User talk:Necrotech54|talk]]) 14:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
:Answered on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 14:36, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


Dude are we getting spambots again what the hell is this an ad for a real place??
Thanks for the welcome, I was on a break, so I checked my wiki page way too late. thanks for the welcome again. [[User: Fury'54|Fury'54]] ([[User talk:Fury'54|talk]]) 06:08, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
[[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Slidell_Louisiana_Roofer]]
[[User:Levi Romero|Commandant Romero]] ([[User talk:Levi Romero|talk]]) 11:48, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
:''Spamoboto uses Spam Attack on UDWiki. It's not very effective.'' Done. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 15:57, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks SZ. Yeah, one got through about a week ago too — forgot to list it on the Bots page. I'm unused to them creating a separate page, rather than just their own userpage. Maybe they think it'll get by us better. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:12, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
:::Most spambots tend to edit their own userpages by default because most wikis are locked down sufficiently that brand-new, unconfirmed accounts can’t create new pages in any other namespace. The occasional spammer/bot will be ever-so-slightly smarter and will actually ''try'', hence what you were seeing. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 05:50, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


== Signature ==
==Extreme repair==
That clusters done. Whats next? --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  22:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
:Break any [[BGRH|records]]? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
:Still on the hunt. I've mostly been surveying safe/intact suburbs, but might end up in part of the [[DMZ]] soon, which has been occupied by the Dead for months. Will keep you posted. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


Hey, I was wondering, and sorry about the unsigned updates, how do you do the multiple signatures, do you just swap it out in the preferences or is there an easier way? :) [[User:Bonersmith|Bonersmith]] ([[User talk:Bonersmith|talk]]) 18:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
== Suburb Groups  ==
:I assume you mean like {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} and {{User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig}}? I only use the latter when doing bulk updates, so I actually copy-paste it, then type five tildes (<nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>) which just adds a timestamp rather than a full signature. The former is just a regular templated sig. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:55, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


== Groups ==
Hey Bob. I noticed you reverted the changes I made to the group listings in some of the suburbs I frequent due to me not being a member of said groups. How are we supposed to keep that section up to date in light of the fact there hasn't been an accounting of active and inactive groups on the wiki since 2013? Thanks -[[User:JAZED|JAZED]] ([[User talk:JAZED|talk]]) 20:48, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
:I would suggest asking said groups on their talk page and if they don't reply in a few weeks, I wouldn't have a problem taking them off. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:31, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
:Hi Jazed! The short answer is to second what DDR said above — a group in question needs to be clearly inactive, not just visible in-game, to be de-listed. If the group puts an inactivity template on their page, then it's fine to de-list them; otherwise, you should leave a message on their talk page specifically regarding their listings, and if they fail to respond in, I'd say a month, you can remove the listings.
:The longer answer is that the original impetus for the existence of the GSGMs wasn't how out-of-date group listings were, but because the listings on each suburb page were becoming untenably long. That's definitely not the case on [[User:Bob_Moncrief/Groupmap|the current lists]]. The goal of having an up-to-date set of listings has always been secondary, but, that being said, we are definitely overdue for another [[GSGM]]. Are you interested in helping out? Please leave your signature [[The Great Suburb Group Massacre/2019/Volunteer Organization#Volunteers|here]] and we'll let you know when we get started. if you feel it's a major problem please make sure to get involved, and get those you know involved, in the GSGM. Seeing more volunteers listed there would definitely give the Massacre a kick in the pants. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:41, 22 January 2019 (UTC)


Hey Bob another player and I recently brought Coram back online ingame, and he hasn't played in awhile. He is a member of Coram News Network, and used to be apart of CORAM. At the occasion of the EBS back up we were wanting to restart both of those groups seeing as I think they're inactive. He doesn't know how to use the wiki, I barely can, and even then I don't know the rules that well. I was wondering if we could recombine the two groups back together into CORAM News Network within the game, and the wiki since neither of them have been active. Thanks in advance. --{{User:Storm/Sig}} 22:53, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
== active places  ==
:Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Do you know any act o be parts of malton for new players to gain experience? Thanks for the welcome--[[User:Cain Howell|Cain Howell]] ([[User talk:Cain Howell|talk]]) 00:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
::Alright I messaged them, thanks again. --{{User:Storm/Sig}} 00:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
:::Okay, Lady Clitoria gave me full permission of anything regarding CORAM, but says she hasn't seen Vapor in a while. So I was wondering whether or not you think I should start working on stuff for CORAM or wait to see if Vapor responds, and allows use of CNN. --{{User:Storm/Sig}} 06:27, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
::::Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:13, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for the reply; I'll be working solely on archiving some of the stuff from CORAM's 'glory days' for now. --{{User:Storm/Sig}} 13:17, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
::::::Cool cool. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:18, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


== Spammers ==
== Apparently we are at war? ==


Could use some help. I need to head out. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm only back to the game since a few weeks, and wasn't aware RR was even active anymore. All but one of my old contacts have their names crossed out. I saw one other member at my old NT building, but it otherwise seemed to be operating on the strength of tradition. Kind of makes sense because honestly what was the point? Well I left out of boredom, and I'm up in Houldenbank tagging along with some folks who like to repair phone masts, and I run into this joker.
:Lemme grab a snack and I'll hop on it. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks. Handing things over to you. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


== Thanks for the welcome ==
[https://i.imgur.com/BQMRl4c.png MichaeI Jacks0n] [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1564806 id=1564806]


Thank you very much for reaching out! I am very glad new players are being welcomed. UD seems pretty dead or at least lacks coordination.
Half a decade seems an awfully long time to hold a grudge against a mostly inactive group. The Greatorex clinic is powered but barricaded, and I see no indication of anyone trying to bring it back. Their group page hasn't been updated in 4 years. Was this person even a member, or do you think he was just looking to start trouble in the suburb? What the hell are they even using for a PKer database anymore?


Still not sure exactly how active I will be, but about to put a call out to my friends in my gaming group to join me. We did a little initial playthroughs and think we might take up some residency there.
[[User:Einexile|&#32;. . . einexile]] ([[User talk:Einexile|talk]]) 17:57, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
:Wow! Haven't heard of RR=PR being active in ages. That said, I've never run a survivor in the southeast. It's possible Michael is maintaining a personal bounty list — the most recently-active major bounty board was on NecroConnect, which is still up but hasn't been updated in at least a year. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 05:06, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for the response and info. I haven't used the wiki in a long time and forgot how to check. I left some graffiti in Houldenbank declaring RR defunct, which I rather thought it was at the time, and it's certainly defunct in Houldenbank. I wouldn't have left except I didn't want to get the people with me killed. I'll be damned if I'm removing the group tag though. I was thinking of going back to the Mad Craskers but not now! [[User:Einexile|&#32;. . . einexile]] ([[User talk:Einexile|talk]]) 19:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


I am still very new to the wiki and how to make it work, so please if you don't mind, can you direct me to some clear-cut user-friendly tutorials on how to use the wiki? I tried to find simplistic guides and was unable to do so.
== Grateful ==


Thank you for your help!
Thank you for the greeting, Mr. Moncrief. There's a lot to learn in Malton and I really appreciate having someone I can ask for a word of advice.
I do have one question: I've noticed some people have a really nice little page set up for their character and I was wondering if there was a link that perhaps had a template for making up such a page. It would be nice if it had instructions or recipes for making those jolly little -?buttons? I don't know the real name- rectangular boxes that have a few words explaining the owner believes in this or that policy or supports a particular group.  Do you know the little label-thingees I mean?


{{unsigned|Nastasha}} 05:34, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Once again, thank you for your kind greeting. Malton can be a bit intimidating!--[[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 04:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
:Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 05:36, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
:Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:18, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


== Recruitment ==
== My signature is not right ==


Hey Bob I just recently finished a recruitment page for CORAM, and I was wondering whether or not you could look it over to see if it's good. I'm not that sure if I formatted it correctly. {{User:Storm/Sig}} 22:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi, please excuse a sort of dopey question, but I just noticed that my signature has the word "Talk" in parentheses behind my main character's username. What did I do to make that happen? Other people rarely seem to have that; it's usually just their usernames. I'm not sure how to alter it to plain "Catherine Cushing". Would you happen to have a link about fixing this, or...(should I stop thinking about this)? Thanks for your time.--[[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 10:08, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
:It looks fine to me! You have a lot of flexibility with your recruitment ad, as long as it 1) has no internal headers or other code which breaks the page and 2) is properly labeled, ordered and boxed on the Recruitment page itself. My one recommendation would be you might wand another line or two of text explaining who/what/where CORAM is. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:28, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
:I know I'm not Bob, but I'm going to answer anyway :P All generic signatures will have it looking like yours, so it's nothing you've done. You can create an alternate one if you like, which changes the way your signature appears. If you want to do that, and need a hand, we're more than happy to help :) {{User:Stelar/sig}} 11:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
::Alright added it, thanks for the help. {{User:Storm/Sig}} 22:37, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
:Yep! The default appearance is "Username (talk)", where "talk" links to [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|your talk page]]. On my custom signature, for example, the word "Moncrief" links to my talk page instead. The basic instructions on how to change your signature are [[Help:Signatures|here]] — but as Stelar said, if you have any questions, just let us know! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


== Thank you for the welcome ==
==Recruitment Page Problems==


Hi Bob,
Dear Bob,


Thank you for the welcome. I look forward to helping any way I can.
Something seems very off at the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Recruitment Recruitment page]. At first I thought it was me making a typo somewhere adn then I tried to fix it....even going so far as to script the [[Casa De La Rock/Recruit|Zerger's recruitment page]], but now it seems I made it worse!
Kind regards


Jesmond {{unsigned|JesmondLewis}}
Would you be so kind as to look what went wrong and perhaps fix it? I promise I will stay away from other people's pages in the next 12 years!
:Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 05:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Boertje|Boertje]] ([[User talk:Boertje|talk]]) 11:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
:Hi! I believe I've fixed it. Does it look correct to you now? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
::Yup! Thanks a bunch. I think I can sleep tonight 😎👍 [[User:Boertje|Boertje]] ([[User talk:Boertje|talk]]) 20:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)


== Re: the comment on [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Shackleville_Groups&curid=130786&diff=2287073&oldid=2287063 this edit] ==
==Revive Tool Confusion==


So, I wanted to poke you regarding the comment on that edit, since to the best of my recollection, groups aren't required to pass historical voting before being added to that spot. We've talked about reconciling historic voting with the suburb group listings, but as far as I can recall, we haven't actually done so yet. We typically let the locals decide what belongs and what doesn't, and only exclude stuff if they're obviously non-noteworthy (e.g. Joe Schmo's group that can't claim much beyond simply existing for a few months). Did I forgot about a policy changes where we linked Historic Group voting with the historic listings? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:20, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello, Bob. One of my characters ("Constance Claremont") is still on the DEM Revivification Tool request list thingee (http://tiny.cc/reviv). She got a revive a week ago. Was I supposed to edit her off the list? (And leave a thank-you note lower down the page?) I'm confused by this. Where exactly do I go to do this? There's no "editing" tab. Do you know of a link I should read or...? Thank you for your time. [[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 10:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
:There's a precedent here, I think you might be right. Disputes between parties over what's historical fall under arbitration as you'd expect. I think. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
:Yep! You just have to re-submit the request in the same form (with your UID# & location) and select "Revived!" in the drop-down menu under "Status". I've cleared out your entry using this method (sorry for the "Checking if this works" message!) Hope that helps! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
:Hmm, ok, my bad! I could have sworn there was a vote for that, but I can't find it so I've restored the edit.
::Thank you very much. [[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 22:22, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
:One thing that makes this a little more complicated, though: [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:DangerReport/The_Rayfield_Building_%28Shackleville%29&diff=prev&oldid=2287064 this status update] implies it's not historic (contrary to what the [[Talon Company|actual group page]] says) but that there are members currently active in the Shackleville area. I'll leave a comment on [[User:World 'globe|the editor]]'s page asking if it should instead be in active groups rather than historic. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:58, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
::I probably would have left it off too, but it's not pressing for now. Good call just asking and hashing it out. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 04:35, 1 March 2016 (UTC)


== Still at it & map ==
== Any word about Easter? ==
You're still at it Bob!  I'm impressed!


The map is starting to look like the "Nothing" from the Neverending Story is sweeping across it.
Hi, Bob. Have you heard anything about whether there will be a supply crate drop for us this Easter? I found a crowbar, so I'm all ready to go. It sure would be great if there were. Thank you for your time.
[[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 08:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
:Unless you have some insider info, I doubt it. The last supply crate drops were more than ten years ago, in 2009. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
::Can confirm. Sys-ops and even bureaucrats receive no special advance notice of any changes or features to the game. Only very rarely on wiki-related business (the last time in 2014 when a wiki update corrupted text on wiki pages on a large scale), and even then this is generally publicly handled on the wiki. - As there hasn't been a crate drop in 9 years, don't hold your breath for the 10th year being the charm. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
:::Well, that sure is disappointing news. Do we still get any Christmas trees and decorations? Or even just snow?  [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 08:43, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
::::Christmas trees (plastic ones found in malls, real trees cut down in parks), Christmas lights and tinsel are all still available during December. No snow or fog anymore unfortunately. I think masks are also available around Halloween in certain corners of certain malls (or it might be all malls, I'm not sure). {{User:Stelar/sig}} 09:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


ATREEEYOUUUUUU!  SAY MY NAME!!!
== A gift! Oh my gosh! ==


--[[Image:SarahSig.png|90px|link=User:Sarah Silverman]] 15:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Wow, that is exactly what I was trying to describe. All I had been able to find was columns of raw code. This looks to be so organized already, that even I could manage to construct my idea! Thank you, Bob. That is incredibly kind. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 23:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
:"Still at it" — well, kind of vanished for a year plus in there, but these goobers voted me back in anyway.


:And I'm pondering a proposal to split the "ghost town" status into two ("ghost town — ruined" and "low-population intact"). But yeah, gray is still the color in vogue this season. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 16:30, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
:It worked like a charm. And I even spelled your name properly this time! Thank you, thank you, thank you! [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 00:52, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
::Great! I had a few minutes between my daily AP-spending and going to work, so I thought I'd whip something together. Looks like you figured out all the parameters (border color, etc) right away. Let me know if there's something else I can help with! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


::Would it make sense to reduce the entire size of Malton by half? --[[Image:SarahSig.png|90px|link=User:Sarah Silverman]] 17:05, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
== Don't see where I'm supposed to choose category ==
:::Oh, totally! But that would require Kevanic intervention (fingers crossed we still get something out of Survey 2015!). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
::::Every time this idea was brought up in Developing Suggestions (and it happened at least a dozen times) there was a huge cry among players fearing to lose their favourite burb or the hangout of their own group. Now it could get through though, as there are no active players and groups left. Only us cemetery gardeners on the wiki, making sure the grass is in a nice shade of green, and full-moon night singing to the dead ancient tales of witches and wenches and kings and mall sieges... --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::My vote is to knock out the outermost ring of suburbs (down to 8x8) or two rings (to 6x6). I wouldn't mind a borderside view for [[Malton Taoist Temple|the Temple]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::Such a shame in my mind that there was never any attempt to co-market with the Walking Dead.  There is absolute beauty in the surface simplicity and underlying complexity of this game that transcends any technological advance.  I think the reduction would have to be more deliberate - to make sure the proportion of resources remains (malls, etc.) remains more or less the same after the territory shrinkage.  Which probably makes it all the more likely.  Really, we're people hanging around the party after the keg is long kicked - but I just can't quit you people!!  Though it's exceedingly difficult to find people worth killing.--[[Image:SarahSig.png|90px|link=User:Sarah Silverman]] 13:25, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


== I never mind.... ==
Hi, Bob. Sorry to bother you again, but I am confused by labeling the images I upload to the UD site. I feel badly that you always end up finishing up for me. I should know how to do this.
I know I'm supposed to designate a category, but I'm not sure of all the possible choices (I mean, is there a set list someplace of the 20 possible designation labels, for example, something really concrete like that?)
And besides choosing the best category to sort the image into, I don't understand where I'm supposed to post the label I choose - just in the "Descriptions" box?
Sorry to be so thick.  Thanks for your time. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 19:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
:Hi Catherine! All the highest-level subcategories can be seen in [[:Category:Images]]; I generally just file the image into one of those, unless it's of a building/location in which case I try to add it to the relevant category in [[:Category:Location Images]].
:When you upload a file, you can just type <nowiki>[[Category:ZZZ]]</nowiki> (where "ZZZ" is the relevant category name) in the description box.
:That said, don't worry! Almost nobody, including longtime wiki users, successfully add categories to all (or any) images they upload. I think of adding the categories as part of my regular wiki maintenance activities. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
::One quick follow-up note: it's important to put the category in <nowiki>[[double brackets]]</nowiki>, not just single — otherwise, the category won't link properly. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:08, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
:::Ah, nuts! I should have remembered the double-brackets. Sorry again, Bob. Maybe I'll get it right the next time. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 05:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


anyone updating danger reports. Besides, you always write more than I do. Its just over 100 danger reports at a time. :) [[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]]<sup>[[Minor Mission List|Want to complete a dangerous mission?]]</sup>  19:23, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
== What is the wiki protocol? ==


== what exactly is a ghost town anyway ==
Hi, Bob. I am writing about the McMurtrie Building page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_McMurtrie_Building


i know there's been quite a bit of people talking about it years and years ago, but people never really seemed to come to a conclusion and let's be honest the wiki's definition is pretty bad
What is the protocol for updating a common page like this?  I haven't been able to find a reference to that procedure in the UD wiki. I'm terrified of doing a technical wiki-vandalism or some other offense out of ignorance.


so seeing as how you are the most active suburb danger updater by a wide margin what is gray really to you - [[User:Novi|Novi]] ([[User talk:Novi|talk]]) 04:40, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
I would like to correct a piece of inaccurate information. Specifically, in the fifth paragraph: "...with the building currently serving as the Black Ops HQ for the Souless Survivors."
:If you want a statistical/definitional answer for what I use, I've made [[Malton Danger Updaters/Tools#External Military|a chart]] over at MDU which I use when DangerUpdating. Generally that means a D or F lights rating (occasionally C) with fewer than 20 zombies around.


:More philosophically, a ghost town to me is a suburb that a) isn't seeing a particular uptick on zombie activity, i.e. no more than 1-2 zombies outside a few buildings, and b) isn't in a state properly maintained by survivors — either because it's in ruins, or because it's improperly lit/caded/has awkward (should be easily-repairable) ruins. A good example of the latter at the moment is [[Rhodenbank]] — despite being mostly "safe" at the building level, it only has one lit building, very inconsistent cades, and ruins at key free-running chokepoints.
They are now based out of Rhodenbank. While it doesn't mention the Souless [sic] Survivors on the Rhodenbank page (for some reason) there is a userbox for the Souless on their own page that mentions Rhodenbank specifically. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Souless_Survivors    So, it should say: "...with the building formerly serving as the Black Ops HQ for Souless Survivors, now based in Rhodenbank."


:Others — have comments on what a Ghost Town means to you? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 09:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
(Appropos of nothing, it drives me nuts that they spelled "soulless" incorrectly.)
::Bobs is a good definition. I would also add that when defining it I also look at wiki activity. If the only people updating any information about a suburb is Bob (or a handful of other brave souls who care little about dying) Its more than safe to assume its exactly what it looks like. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]]<sup>[[Minor Mission List|Want to complete a dangerous mission?]]</sup>  11:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
:::I tend not to use wiki activity so much, mostly because I know it's not balanced around the city — there's a surprising concentration of Northwesterners (e.g. greater [[Caiger Mall|Caiger]] area, [[Grigg Heights]], etc) as opposed to other parts of the city, and of course more concentration on border/active areas (generally yellow/orange suburbs) because players are attracted to where the action is. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:01, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
::::Agreed, its only good as a secondary source. As for survivor behaviour influencing reporting I will have to defer to bob. Theres are some lovely suburbs out there with no one in. [[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]]<sup>[[Minor Mission List|Want to complete a dangerous mission?]]</sup>  12:49, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::ooh, so much activity going on here, not what i expected.. well, i asked because i had been sticking around in crowbank for the last week, and very promptly bailed after witnessing the insanity the suburb has to offer.. now, going by the EM reports there's almost nothing going on there, but that's because everything important is happening indoors (most zoms these days seem to prefer hanging out in any ruins instead of outdoors if possible), and i personally witnessed something like 4 PKs/3 parachutes/6ish EHB++++ breakins + ruins in the span of 12 hours the very day it was downgraded to gray.. the place is an absolute fuckfest of death cultists and zerg-zoms, i've never seen such a violent area in my entire time playing, sans the hundreds vs hundreds mall sieges of old.. so i'm not sure if gray is really accurate, and in reality its danger level may be something beyond red: there is absolutely no sanity in crowbank right now, i hope those few crazy bastards on that one lit NT reviving people manage, somehow - [[User:Novi|Novi]] ([[User talk:Novi|talk]]) 04:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
::::::I'd say definitely change Crowbank's status, then! I try not to overrule on-site reports with EMR-based information, but much of the city is so consistent/underreported that EMR is most of what's available. EMRs are always intended to be only a supplement to on-site reporting, though. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 05:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::::i suppose i will then, though since i've left that hellhole i wonder if it ''would'' actually qualify as a ghost town after what occurred the last few days.. i've noticed when trying to band together with people to reclaim grays we usually get wiped out within 8h, so one really has to wonder about the actual activity levels of suburbs (and i think it's why the current definitions could use some work, especially with the low population), buuut who knows - [[User:Novi|Novi]] ([[User talk:Novi|talk]]) 06:14, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, Bob's is a decent one. More or less, I view a ghost town as any suburb that simply feels empty. Walking around the streets would generally be relatively safe for survivors since there would be few or no zombies, and likewise free running through the buildings (were it possible) would show few to no survivors present. That said, even in "populated" suburbs, I've found that it's generally quite possible to sleep outdoors in plain sight for days at a time, so long as you don't do so in immediate sight of zombies who happen to be nearby. When the SoC was hosting a for-fun PK competition for its members a year or two back, I started sleeping outdoors since it actually ended up being safer than sleeping indoors where someone hunting for you would be looking. And that was in Darvall Heights and the surrounding area. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
:::In my [[MDU]] work I've been really surprised by how many survivors sleep outside. Although when I check profiles, most of them are very low level and probably haven't learned the game's customs yet. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
::::::Where are all of you guys?  I want to come kill you.--[[Image:SarahSig.png|90px|link=User:Sarah Silverman]] 15:26, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::::standing in the rowcliffe necrotech. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]]<sup>[[Minor Mission List|Want to complete a dangerous mission?]]</sup>  16:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Uhh...I think I'm in Grigg Heights? Not sure, even though I was active less than an hour ago. Regardless, I can usually be found around the Darvall area. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::::I'm in Darvall Heights right now, moving between [[The Herman Building|Herman]], the central Darvall hospital complex and [[Dandison Auto Repair|the Temple]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


== Back in town ==
Thank you for your time. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 00:53, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
:Hi Catherine!
:For location pages, you're totally welcome to make edits like the above, since they're intended to be updated by the community at large. The places to tread carefully are the group pages themselves — a group is considered to control its own group page, so any edits by outsiders there can be questionable. But location pages, you can edit freely. (The group members may come and undo the update, of course, but that means that they have some other information and may also update their group page to reflect it.)
:So the edit you mentioned above should be a-ok! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:56, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks, Bob. (I'd never do anything on somebody else's page. Might try to talk to them, mention whatever the matter was, but I'd never go in and correct their spelling, etc. Maybe they did it that way on purpose; what do I know? Anyway, I have more than enough trouble to try to puzzle out on my own pages.) [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 02:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


Hi
== Deletion of unused images ==


Just got back to the game after an eternity of absence, glad to see the Danger Center is still up and running (and hasn't broken the entire wiki at some point as I half expected to happen...).
Hi, what is the etiquette when nominating an unused image for deletion?  I want one gone especially because its gross. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 06:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
:Just post a link to it on [[A/SD]], as long as it's been truly unused for at least two weeks. (Same is true if it's a prior revision of an image in use.) {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
:You don't even technically need to go through A/SD for unused images that are more than 2 weeks old because they are [[A/G#Scheduled_Deletions|scheduled deletions]]. In theory you could just let a sysop know on our talk page or discord and we can do it without red tape. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 17:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
::That works too — I suggested A/SD because that way multiple sops are more likely to see it. If somebody DMs me individually, there's always a chance I won't notice for a day or two. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:51, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


Where's the action currently at? Both in game and on the wiki?
== Wrong category again ==


{{User:Peralta/Signature}} 18:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Bob. I suppose something like a full beer mug should have been placed in "Category: Pub Images", shouldn't it? [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 08:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
:Hey Johnny! So glad to see you're back! What've you been up to these past few years?
:I think just "Category:Foods" is fine. But you're always welcome to edit and add more categories! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 10:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
:The DangerCenter is still so active there's actually [[MDU|a group]] dedicated to keeping it updated! So your legacy definitely lives on ^_^
:On-wiki, not much is up. You may want to know that there was a big reform of the [[A/BP|bureaucrat]] and [[A/RE|re-eval]] procedures — both are coming up in June/July. I spend a lot of time now on [[NecroConnect]], a forum about a year old created in response to the 10th-anniversary survey in 2015.
:In-game things are definitely hopping in [[Darvall Heights]] and the surrounding area, with Caiger having just fallen and zombie-survivor battles ongoing. Things are quieter in most of the rest of the city, although rumor has it there's been a PK surge in the greater [[Crowbank]] area.
:Cheers! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:20, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
::Wow, that's pretty awesome, never thought it would last so long :)
::I'll have to take a look at that new forum one of these days.
::I joined up with the DEM again for now, and my zed is with the RRF, but they seem to have winded down quite a bit :( The ravages of time I guess... {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 07:40, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
:::The latest big event in the city was the Fifth of November 2015, which saw quite the siege (~150 players all told) and other battles in Ridleybank. Things have been very quiet since then. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:01, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
::::150 players in total and it's quite the siege. We're finally reaching the realistic zombie survival point :p {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 18:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


== Quick Question ==
Bob, I'm working on a draft page for the Mad Craskers Godson Arms pub. So I think what I'll do is sort that kind of thing (pub fare) into both categories <nowiki>[[Category:Food]] and [[Category:Pub Images]]</nowiki>.


Is it possible to make a scroll box and if so, how?
Wish I lived in England, then I could go about and take some pictures of my own. No pubs in Oregon, USA. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 00:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
:Sounds good! Btw, feel free to keep replying under the same header, even if another conversation is happening on this page. Each header is more like a thread, so keeping a topic under one header keeps things orderly. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 04:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


I'm updating several locations with local lore and history, based on past danger reports, but this can become quite big (eg. [[Blockwood Auto Repair (Molebank)]] and I think a scroll box would be a clean fix :)
== Discord ==


Thanks in advance!
Either you or some other sysop banned me on the discord server. Please cite a rule I broke there that legitimates a ban. You can't, because I didn't break any. Your rules don't have any value, as you simply ban people because you don't like them. [[User:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD]] ([[User talk:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|talk]]) 16:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
:Hi there! Please familiarize yourself with the following from #resources-rules on the server:
{{quote|Bob Moncrief|2. Off-topic discussion, especially discussion that disrupts the use of the server for on-topic purposes, may lead to the following consequences:
* "timeout", in which the server becomes read-only for that user<br/>
* permaban<br/>There is no specific scale of escalations. Users should assume that violations will lead to permaban every time; timeouts and temporary bans are at my discression.<br/>3. Familiarize yourself with the Discord TOS. If you violate it, you're out and your messages will be reported.}}
:Posting recipes for illicit drug manufacturing is illegal in the jurisdiction of the owner of the server (me) and thereby violates Discord's TOS against illegal activity. In addition, what you posted is both off-topic and blatantly disruptive, and therefore violates the above. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:09, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
::Also I can't believe I misspelled "discretion". I've corrected the error on the server, but I leave my shame here for posterity. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:11, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
:::I googled that recipe in under 1 minute, dumped it in google translate and posted it on discord. And there are numerous off topic messages on the discord that didn't result in bans which brings me back to my first point "your rules don't have any value, you simply ban people because you don't like them." [[User:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD]] ([[User talk:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|talk]]) 17:29, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
::::Just because something's widely available doesn't mean it's legal. And different sites and platforms have different policies towards acceptable content.
::::Quite a few people have received warnings (by private message) or temporary timeouts for off-topic posting. I am a capricious discord dictator, yes, and decide upon my own whim when something deserves outright banning. If you have a problem with that, you should have left the server as soon as you joined it. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
:::::<i>Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre.</i> --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 18:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
::::::You're talking to a fascist, man. A neo-nazi. The most notorious one out there. Did you really think I was going to have a problem with dictatorship..? Non-aryan guys are even dumber than they look.
::::::Now that I've established the fact you aren't able to form a semi-comprehensive thought, I think it's useless to elaborate on the contradiction in your stream of thoughts by mentioning that you wouldn't have banned any other Discord member for posting said recipe or any few offline messages whatsoever. [[User:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD]] ([[User talk:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|talk]]) 02:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
:::::::"The most notorious one out there"? I think I know what that means.
:::::::I take "non-Aryan" as a compliment, since I often get confused for one irl. The Vikings and English, those esteemed Germanic-language peoples, both did horrible things to my ancestors for centuries — I can tell you all about it sometime if you ask.
:::::::And for posterity: I'd have banned anybody for posting the aforementioned recipe. I'm capricious, but consistently capricious. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 04:06, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


{{User:Peralta/Signature}} 10:04, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
ooo... drama... i returned to the wiki on the best of times :D --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 18:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
:It is possible. Just add a CSS style with <code>overflow: scroll</code> to a page element that would otherwise contain too much content for the size you've set (i.e. you need to set a height and width for it to be able to overflow its bounds). For instance:
: * finishes eating his popcorn * well, seems like this finished right on time. Time to go back into hiatus --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 13:24, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
:<div style="height: 100px; width: 200px; overflow: scroll;"><p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etiam viverra scelerisque nisl nec molestie. Nunc orci est, vulputate a bibendum ac, faucibus id orci. Donec mollis congue elit, eget placerat quam faucibus eget. Morbi neque lectus, scelerisque nec blandit sed, mollis id magna. Curabitur sodales, justo congue euismod dictum, urna diam rutrum lectus, eu aliquet tortor nibh nec diam. Vivamus ornare, lectus ac luctus rutrum, nulla tellus egestas orci, vel vehicula urna enim auctor ligula. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Phasellus tellus felis, eleifend sed velit at, fringilla cursus ligula. Vestibulum efficitur urna placerat, feugiat mauris nec, consequat ipsum. Praesent sed neque pulvinar ex dictum aliquet. Cras ac sapien vel nibh dignissim gravida sed eget lacus. Proin a est felis. Donec eu est eleifend, rutrum magna in, pharetra odio. Quisque tristique non est et luctus. Mauris ac lorem in tortor venenatis lacinia at sit amet neque.</p><p>Aenean ac lectus enim. Curabitur varius risus vel libero ornare, in tincidunt ante dictum. Mauris varius risus ut metus ultrices faucibus. Integer quis gravida orci. Donec luctus pulvinar sapien eu mollis. Sed at tincidunt mi. Pellentesque sed dapibus felis. Curabitur non dui vitae magna dictum semper et eget tortor. Aenean efficitur, nibh vitae venenatis venenatis, neque ex dictum ante, eget hendrerit purus libero id turpis. Praesent fermentum mi pellentesque orci dapibus, sit amet bibendum metus rutrum. Cras ut imperdiet sem.</p></div>
:You can see some examples of this sort of stuff over at [[User:Yonnua Koponen|Yonn's user page]] if you look through the older versions of his page, since he made heavy use of scrollboxes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:42, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


::Aah, just like the old days. I ask idiotic questions and Aichon patiently gives the obvious answer ;)
Though I love to see a good old-fashioned attempt at wikilawyering as much as the next person, those wiki-based rules simply don't apply to the discord. Simple as that. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:02, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 14:52, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
::Appearantly you think I'm dumb enough to not look up the discord rules before posting there [[User:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD]] ([[User talk:WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD|talk]]) 02:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
:::Nothing idiotic about that question at all! And it was an easy answer. Took me about as long to find a ''lorem ipsum'' generator as it did to remember the CSS as it did to type up my response. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:47, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
:::Well... he's right. You are dumb enough, because Bob had to remind your dumb ass. {{User:RadicalWhig/sig}}02:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
::::Thanks again: I've been implementing this in several location's 'Current Status'-feed: it creates a much cleaner way to present the course of events at, for instance, the Blackmore Building. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 11:15, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
:::I daresay that makes you even stupider, seeing as there are several instances in the rules where you could have been banned, including the clause that states Bob runs the discord as he wishes and he, as well as sysops, can ban anyone at will. And you say you read those rules and still came here demanding justification? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:30, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks Aichon! Not a problem I've encountered before. But for these kinds of questions I often point people your way anyway ^^ {{User:Bob  Moncrief/Sig}} 18:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
:::The one word of caution I'd advise is that not everyone has the same screen resolution, so be sure that it looks good at both larger and smaller screen sizes. Stuff like this tends to look good at one screen size, but not others. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:11, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 
== Help with a recruitment ad ==
 
Hey, I'm having trouble getting an ad up for MCM. I can get the group name to link, but the actual ad won't show. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, as I pretty much copied what the other groups edited in and changed the names to Malton College Of Medicine. I also tried MCM, but neither seem to work. This is the ad I created:http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Malton_College_of_Medicine/Recruit. Did I do something wrong with the actual ad page? I didn't think it would be this hard to get an ad up! [[User:Stelar|stelar]] ([[User talk:Stelar|talk]]) 02:16, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
:Ok, I think I've gotten it working. You were missing a template closure tag (<nowiki>|}</nowiki>) which was messing things up. Should look ok now. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 05:16, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks so much! Your help is most appreciated :) [[User:Stelar|stelar]] ([[User talk:Stelar|talk]]) 05:39, 22 May 2016 (UTC)


== Thanks! ==
== Thanks! ==


Thanks for leaving a nice message on my Talk Page, Bob.  If I need any help I'll be in touch!  I have very little clue what I'm doing. Thanks again.  :-) [[User:Staubach|Staubach]] ([[User talk:Staubach|talk]]) 21:10, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
"Sick Enough"!? Boy, that's some great name for a group, jeez.  :P [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 04:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
:Sure thing! Drop by anytime. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:30, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 
== Radio ==
 
I started scanning the radio frequencies one by one in your sandbox table as Third Sweep, just FYI. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 08:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:Awesome! I'd join you but my radio-carrying alt is currently dead as a zed. But excellent work! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 
==Rebuilding?==
 
Whatever happened to the Rebuilding tag for danger reports?
 
I mean, they seem useful in cases like [[the Mechel Museum]], as can be seen [http://iamscott.net/1465201490147.html here]. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 08:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:I still use it. It (and "in zombie hands", a couple others) are only on the Mall listings, but can be used for any building. If you want a breakdown of which status I use when, check out [[Malton Danger Updaters/Tools#Danger Reports|this list at MDU]] — I use "rebuilding" if a building is a) between loosely & QS barricaded; b) doesn't have zombies outside. I could see using it if a building is totally uncaded with lights on and no zeds, too. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks! I must have done something wrong when I tried using it for a couple buildings. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 18:08, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Until there's a "I suicided a building in the middle of a zerg infested wasteland and now I'm on -158ap" status I'd just stick with rebuilding. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]]<sup> ; the shambling custodian of UD's past...</sup>  19:19, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
::::I just usually leave it as "Ruined", given that that's what it will be in a few hours anyway. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:08, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 
== Me again ==


Yup, me again, with another wiki-issue :) We've been putting the TRP statuses in a horizontal table in stead of the unpractical vertical one, and in our test environment it looks like [[User:Stelar/TRPtest|this]]. When I implement it on the page of East Beck however, it looks like [[East_Becktown#Interesting_Locations|this]]... Any ideas? The table has a fixed width and everything, but for reasons I don't see the East Beck page couldn't care less about it.  Thanks in advance! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 19:38, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
== Calling Terri Fick!! Can you get to us and do a revival or two? ==
:The glitch isn't with the TRP statuses — it's with the featured location cycler! It seems to be trying to call a cycle 00 — do you not have a case for that? '''edit:''' you just need to create a page at [[User:Peralta/EBLocCycle00]] with one of the locations.
:As for the wide TRP status display, it looks fine on my computer, but you may want to implement a maximum width. If someone's on a small screen or has zoomed in to a large font, the TRP boxes get too wide and bump down below the right-hand bar. If you add a maximum width to each box, it'll (e.g.) cause a line break in Loney Row Police // Department, and keep the display narrower. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:17, 13 June 2016 (UTC)


== It's ironic... ==


...that it is the Malton Taoist op who gets to remove the Feng Shui house spam. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"></span>]]</span>''' 17:46, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Terri are you nearby? Are you able to help us? We are at an indoor/outdoor RP, junkyard [98,76].<br>
:Yep. But even spam about Feng Shui clutters the Feng Shui of the wiki. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:33, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
No one's left alive here to revive us!<br>
http://iamscott.net/1568942603157.html
Thanks. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 01:40, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
:Contacted via discord. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)


== Hello! ==
== Enjoy your break, Bob! ==


Thanks for the message.  I had a quick question - does me changing the Danger Reports mess with your bot at all? [[User:Distran|Distran]] ([[User talk:Distran|talk]]) 20:01, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Have a relaxing, fun time and enjoy the holidays! [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 05:03, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
:I assume by my bot you mean my DangerReport updating? (It's not a bot, just me using an alternate signature.) And definitely feel free to update any and all statuses you like! My goal as part of the [[Malton Danger Updaters]] is to keep the DangerReport system as updated as possible. If you have any questions on how to update statuses or similar, just let me know. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:34, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks! But I'm not on break, just my main alt is ;) {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:12, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
::Well, that's a relief! I was worried thinking you weren't around watching over things. :D [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 01:14, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


== HELP! ==
== Appreciation ==
Thanks for the friendly welcome! --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 21:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


Some jackoff named uberlegen deleted the Autobots group page in Pashenton. There is no contact information either for uberlegen. This guy has been PKing the Autobots since he appeared in Pashenton, and now he's destroyed our wiki page. Please fix this. [[User:Optimus Primus|Optimus Primus]] ([[User talk:Optimus Primus|talk]]) 04:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
== Admin request ==
If you are looking for more administrators, I'd be willing to volunteer. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 01:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hi Auri! The normal requirements to apply for a sysop are listed at [[A/PM|the promotions page]]. One of the listed requirements is having been an editor on the wiki for six months or so; while not a hard and fast requirement, this is generally the amount of time it takes to learn the ropes of the wiki as well as see the [[UDWiki:Administration|admin pages]] in action. If you have any questions about wiki culture or procedure, let me know! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:: Sure thing! Plus, if I do well, you have the majority of making me an admin anyway, seems that I presume you are a bureaucrat. But, for now, I am here to ensure that this wiki is what it should be, a user-made encyclopedia, and not a playground for vandals. With me here as the most awesome editor, this wiki will be reaching a much higher standard. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:25, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


I don't know if I was allowed to do it,but I have undone what uberlagen has done.If he does this again, just go to your pages history and click on "undo" next to his revision summary...I expect this guy will be given a warning or banning for what he's done...--[[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#e00000;">P</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#d00000;">a</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#c00000;">y</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#b00000;">n</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#A00000;">e</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#900000;">T</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#a00000;">r</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#b00000;">a</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#c00000;">i</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#d00000;">n</span>]]<sup>'''([[FU]])'''</sup> 05:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
== Dove Windsor ==
Hello, I'd like to make my own article: [[Dove Windsor]]. I'd just like to let you know. The article explains the work that I do on the Urban Dead Wiki. I have to admit, I am quite a legend on here. I hope you don't mind, but I'm making an awesome article. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
: Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:: Please tell which articles that I am allowed to edit and which ones I am not. I am not a member of the MMS. I am just the article janitor here who improves grammar. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:22, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::: Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:35, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::: Okay. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


:Why may I ask is he resorting to such acts of idiocy?lol--[[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#e00000;">P</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#d00000;">a</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#c00000;">y</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#b00000;">n</span>]][[User:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#A00000;">e</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:impact,monospace,serif;color:#900000;">T</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#a00000;">r</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#b00000;">a</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#c00000;">i</span>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<span style="font-size:1.4em;font-family:'poplar std',verdana,sans-serif;color:#d00000;">n</span>]]<sup>'''([[FU]])'''</sup> 05:09, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
== Sidebar Request ==
Hey, Bob! Is it okay if you can move the random page link from the wiki section underneath the recent changes section? Thanks! --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
: I assume you mean in the left-hand sidebar? There's been a [[MediaWiki talk:Sidebar|very long series of discussions]] on the exact look & ordering of the sidebar (that I encourage you to read — it gives quite a taste of the way the wiki works!) Any requests for changes to it can be added to [[MediaWiki talk:Sidebar#the glorious return of random page|the most recent discussion topic there]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:: Sorry, if the American version isn't acceptable, I will switch it to the British version, sorry! After all, I am British. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::: Replied on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:43, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::: Again, sorry! I thought that the last article was just a normal one. If it said Journal: etc, I wouldn't edit it. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::: If it has a group name at the start before the slash, then it's a group's page. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 02:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::: @[[User:Stelar]] Thanks! --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::: Thank you, Bob! I will just stick to incorrect articles not user pages. But, I can correct my messages, can't I? --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 02:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Sure thing! Yes, you can always edit your own messages; and on your own talk page, you can freely remove others's messages (but not edit them). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::: Bob, I now know which articles I can edit. The ones without the forward slash. Thanks to Stelar! --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 03:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Some pages without a forward slash still are best not to edit, e.g. group pages that you don't own. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::: Yeah, it would say Group:. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 03:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::No, groups don't have a specific prefix. e.g. [[Malton Taoist Temple]] is a group but has no prefix. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:07, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::: Wow, this is harder than I thought! Okay, if I accidentially edit a page you think it is a group, just revert it. If the pages that I edit are not in the group section, then good, leave it be. I don't do this on purpose, you know. I just want to fix grammatical errors. --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 03:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Normally you can tell what kind of page something is from the content of the page, or sometimes from the categories listed at the bottom, if that helps. Repeatedly editing group pages that aren't yours can get you in trouble even if it's unintentional, because it would indicate you can't tell what kind of page is a group page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:11, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::::: Okay, so it will say either, group, user, etc in the categories? --'''[[User:Auri|<span style="color:purple">Auri</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Auri|Express yourself, be heard!]]) 03:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::: User pages are always "User:", group pages have the name of the group in the mainspace. So the ones you had edited (the Bob reversed) had the group name before the slash. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 03:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


::Hi guys. Thanks Payne for undoing the edit. I'm watching the user and have left a message explaining their blanking action isn't a good idea. If it happens again make sure to report the user to [[A/VB]]. Thanks. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 10:59, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
== Danger Reports ==
:::He didn't just blank those two pages. He also specifically [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Woolven_Building_(Pashenton)&diff=prev&oldid=2300680 erased the Autobots] as a group offering revives at a particular location, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Pashenton&diff=2300677&oldid=2269271 removed mention of their radio frequency], and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Rawkins_Row_Police_Department&diff=2300679&oldid=2291970 replaced the current news for a location that they had posted with the news that the suburb was now a zone for criminals]. I left the last one alone, since other than being a minor NPOV violation and part of a larger pattern of activity, it isn't worth mentioning, but I rolled back the other two. Seems to me like he both knowingly posted false information to the wiki and vandalized group-owned pages in an attempt to malign his opposition.
I suppose I should probably say something since I've been changing TONS of your edits. I've been updating year+ old stuff to "unknown", with the intention of shortening that down to 10>8>6 months if I ever get caught up. Still not sure I've caught all the 2018 stuff yet tho (is there a way to search that?) [[User:EthrDemon|EthrDemon]] ([[User talk:EthrDemon|talk]]) 22:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Honestly, I was inclined to just file the A/VB case myself and slap an immediate warning on his page since this is an open-and-shut case of someone making their bad intent perfectly clear, but because you've already talked to him, I'll leave it up to Optimus to decide if he wants to pursue an A/VB case or leave things as they are. The damage has been undone and we can easily undo anything further, but this was not an innocent mistake on the part of a newbie, so I have no qualms in letting them know that such behavior will not be tolerated. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:14, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
:Unfortunately there's no way to manually search it. Back when the [[MDU]] was active I would check every status and mark it unknown on a five-month cycle, but that meant manually opening every building page in the city — a time-consuming process, as I'm sure you've found out. There used to be a bot run by The Rooster that marked statuses unknown automatically, but he hasn't been active since 2011 (it may be possible to code a new one, but I am not tech-savvy enough). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 16:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thanks Aichon. I missed the NT edit; the others I thought were good faith, particularly because the user is a new editor and we allow the community to generally maintain & update the radio list on suburb pages. If, post a nudge message, a new user continues to make bad faith edits, it's straight to A/VB with him. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
::Even a basic template could work, something that allows you to go to say, add '''<nowiki>{{2020}}</nowiki>''' to all updates you make in 2020, and then in the future someone can go through all status updates that link to that. Have one for every year etc. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the fixes, guys. If you think an A/VB case is warranted I would be more than happy to pursue that. Uberlegen and his alts (uberlegen1, etc) have been consistently PKing us for months now, and apparently has listed the Autobots on the Bounty Hunter lists, wherever those are, and now Pashenton is being flooded with them. This all started with the player BottleCap112, who had originally been an Autobot until he refused to abide by truces made with other legitimate groups. He was kicked out of the group and for a long time would PK the Autobots all by himself. Then suddenly uberlegen appeared sending us regards from BottleCap. We have the distinct conclusion that BottleCap is now zerging, but we can't verify it other than the fact several of the creation dates for these names are within hours of each other. [[User:Optimus Primus|Optimus Primus]] ([[User talk:Optimus Primus|talk]]) 02:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
:::Yeah, maybe something like that is workable. It would be great if the template could default to unknown if the report is past a certain age. A [[Help:Magic Words|magic word]]? We got things like <nowiki>{{REVISIONDAY}}</nowiki> to work with, for example. But we don't have things like if functions / conditionals... so I'm not sure. We'd need parser functions. Perhaps there's a way to sorta "override" the templates semi-manually. If it were June, for example, you change something in the danger report template itself so that anything in April (for example) gets marked as unknown. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Certainly! An [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:Uberlegen|A/VB case]] officially gave him a warning; if he returns to the wiki and vandalizes again, we'll A/VB him again. The wiki A/VB and similar systems intentionally don't deal with in-game zerging, so there's not much to do about that (but if you visit [[NecroConnect]] I know they're starting to document ongoing zerg cases). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
::::I just tested it out on my [[User:OrangeTHIEF/Sandbox|sandbox]] and I think one can do something like '''<nowiki>[[Category:LastUpdate/{{REVISIONYEAR}}]]</nowiki>''' which should categorise the page in the year the last revision was made to it... unfortunately adding that to all the existing pages is going to set the last revision as now, so it would only be useful going forward, unless there is a trick to work around that (maybe through a template they already all transclude?) --[[User:OrangeTHIEF|OrangeTHIEF]] ([[User talk:OrangeTHIEF|talk]]) 10:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Putting it in the BuildingStatus template puts all pages that use that template into the categories: the DangerReports, but also the building pages, BICs, etc. Not sure of another template that wouldn't have the same effect. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:11, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::Possibly we could use '''Template:UpdateDR''' - from a quick look I think that only gets used/transcluded on actual '''User:DangerReport/x''' pages (and a few other user pages). If we put '''<nowiki>[[Category:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}{{REVISIONYEAR}}]]</nowiki>''' in the UpdateDR template, we end up with categories looking like '''DangerReport2018''', '''DangerReport2019''', '''DangerReport2020'''. '''ROOTPAGENAME''' will defend against any transclusions of UpdateDR in places other than User:DangerReport, as while they will still get categorised, the category will be named differently due to the differing root page name. --[[User:OrangeTHIEF|OrangeTHIEF]] ([[User talk:OrangeTHIEF|talk]]) 12:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::I've gone ahead and made this change (with a couple of tweaks). My hope is that the template update should cascade through soon and then we'll have some nice by-year categories. It should be pretty easy to undo my attempt if not! --[[User:OrangeTHIEF|OrangeTHIEF]] ([[User talk:OrangeTHIEF|talk]]) 00:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be working, but only the ones currently being updated are filling in (from my view). Job queue is at 6008, so I assume ~5500 of those are filling in the categories. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 16:08, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::I've used the purge API and worked through the suburbs, all the categories are now populated - so now all the buildings last updated in 2018 are easy to see! Some details on discord if anyone is interested. --[[User:OrangeTHIEF|OrangeTHIEF]] ([[User talk:OrangeTHIEF|talk]]) 17:33, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::For reference the categories are linked as following: [[:Category:DangerReport 2011]], [[:Category:DangerReport 2014]], [[:Category:DangerReport 2018]], [[:Category:DangerReport 2019]], [[:Category:DangerReport 2020]]. It's cool how some haven't been updated in 9 years. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:27, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I feel like from a practicality point of view, it would be best to consider this as a feature that will only work from here on. Don't worry about past statuses. Too much effort and probably impossible. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:00, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


== A/RE and crats ==
== DEM ==


Crats have never undergone A/RE, as their election is regarded as enough proof that the community wants to keep them around some more. I only know that Ross underwent voluntary A/RE a few years ago while he was a crat. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 11:04, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Hey Bob. I'm wanting to update some of the Malton DEM leadership pages and I noticed that it is using code to pull the information from somewhere else (DEMpos). I dont want to screw anything up. Can you point me to the correct pages to update? {{unsigned|DTTL}}
:Ehh, I think it's much more fair now that A/REs are less frequent to have everyone, including crats, undergo them. But whatever, I've removed Ross; consider mine voluntary. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:Hmm! It looks like the DEMpos refers to [[Template:DEMpos]]. On that page you can replace any given listing, and it should update on [[Department of Emergency Management/Contact]] (and anywhere else DEMpos is used). Hope that helps! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:21, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:"Never" is not entirely correct, it's happened before. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
::....As you said in the very next sentence, my apologies. I'm pretty sure SA did as well in this situation. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
:::We are very unlikely to see any op stripped by A/RE anytime soon anyway, unless they become inactive over a long stretch of time (like Mis currently does) or suddenly go rogue Grim_s style (which I consider way out of character for anyone on the current roster). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 18:44, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


== Wiki tables ==
== Happy to be here! ==


Guess who's being crap at wiki-editting again? This guy!
Hey Bob!


Me and Stelar are working on a new EBD page, drafts can be found [[User:Stelar/EBD|here (Stelar's)]], [[User:Peralta/Demo1|here (my WIKI code one)]] and [[User:Peralta/Demo2|here (my HTML code one]].
Thanks for the welcome; really nice of you to say hi :) Project Welcome itself seems like an awesome imitative.
They all suffer from the same problem: no matter how we set the width of a cell, if you fill it with enough text, it will stretch out and ruin your entire lay-out.
I've tried quite a few things, including clean builds, help pages and working HTML in stead of WIKI. Nothing seems to help.... Suggestions? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
:Nvm, I think I got it. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
::Glad you've got it. I normally just <nowiki><br/></nowiki> things, but that's a brute-force method where finesse would probably do better. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


== Old Danger Report ==
I've played on and off throughout the years, and got back into UD recently with some new characters. Originally, I was providing intel to a group on TRP statuses and such, but realised I could help more than just them with that info. Hopefully the updates are up to scratch!


Just letting you know, but [[User:DangerReport/Club Colridge|this danger report]] was two years old. Is a categorie or something missing on the page? I thought we updated all of Malton since then? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 09:19, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
If there's anything else newb-friendly I can help with on the wiki, feel free to point me towards it. Otherwise, I'll content myself with DangerReport updates for now.
:[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:DangerReport/Club_Colridge&diff=prev&oldid=2181240 The prior update] was to "unknown". Once a report is marked "unknown", it doesn't get updated again in sweeps — it would say the exact same thing ("Last updated November 2013"). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:33, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
:Wait, I think I understand what you're saying — not that its "unknown" wasn't updated, but that nobody bothered to fill in the info. [[Club Colridge]] (alongside [[North Library]]) is actually pretty distant from the rest of Darvall Heights by free-running lanes, so if someone (e.g. me) decides to update "all" of Darvall with a survivor alt, they might leave those two buildings out. And Darvall actually hasn't been surveyed by any prior [[MDU]] assignments (it's as yet unclaimed in the ongoing [[Malton Danger Updaters/Assignments#Summer Suburb TLC|Summer Suburb TLC assignment]]). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
::I've seen a few really old 'marked unknown' buildings (usually, "last updated in 2013") while I've been updating suburbs. I just figured they were just missed. [[User:Stelar|stelar]] ([[User talk:Stelar|talk]]) 21:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


== Template Calls ==
See you around!


Looks like I set myself the challenge: how to make things not work in the least amount of lines possible: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Template:EBD/SafeHospitalCounter2
Nate
{{unsigned|PhoenixPyres|21 May 2020}}


Any ideas why the second switch doesn't give me the same output as the first?
== a/vb archive ==


{{User:Peralta/Signature}} 10:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
you may want to also protect that archive i made for you --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 02:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
:Tried fiddling for a minute, honestly no idea. Maybe [[User:Aichon]] can help? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks! Thought I did so once I realized you'd made it yesterday. Cheers! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
::Well, the most obvious thing I saw was that the inputs aren't the same. The first switch is being given "1 1" (without the quotes), but the second switch is actually being given "1 1 " (again, without the quotes, but with the extra space), which you'll see if you toss quotation marks around the data on the last line of the page. I don't know that that would be sufficient to mess things up, but the space seems to be coming from the fact that the <code><nowiki><noinclude></nowiki></code> in [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:DangerReport/Barbara_General_Hospital&action=edit the actual danger reports] is on a separate line from the rest of the code that is actually being included. Erasing that line break causes the extra spaces to go away. At that point, you could make your inputs look like "11" instead, which should work as intended without any problems. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
:I’d say you’re running up against the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Order_of_evaluation limits of what the standard template system was designed to handle]. Without [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions Parser Functions] available, there’s only so much can be done. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 11:40, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
::It's alive! It's alliiiiiive! Thank you. We will now proceed with making horrible amounts of template calls for very little use :) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 16:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


== Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown ==
== Reporting Characters ==


If I call <nowiki>{{Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown}}</nowiki>, I get a list of recent changes related to East Beck. If call <nowiki>{{Special:Recentchanges/3}}</nowiki>, I get the last three edits on the entire wiki.
Hey Bob, a quick question, a survivor just destroyed my generator is there any way to report him? And I have no idea about his whereabouts.
How do I get the last three edits of a specific subject? :) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 12:10, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
If you know how to report, just report this character "<font color="pink"> Garett Hammond </font>". Thanks! [[User: Fury'54|Fury'54]] ([[User talk: Fury'54|talk]]) 06:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
:You mean within a category? e.g. <nowiki>{{Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Barrville_Danger_Levels}}</nowiki>? Or do you mean subject as in person, in which case you can just navigate to their contributions? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
:Destroying generators isn't against the game rules, hope this helps. --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 06:43, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
:Also replying further on your talk page. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thank you for the tip on the signature Bob, I am very new when it comes to wiki editing so all the advice helps--Admiral (talk) 12:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

No worries! It can take a bit of getting used to but I'm available if you run into any snags. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome Bob, I actually played UD a while back and me and my friends are just getting back into it. We're thinking about scoping out Fort Creedy and working on it slowly but surely. We're not sure if we'll base ourselves out of Pegton or Edgecombe but I figured I have AP so I'd update the Danger Map as much as possible while I'm at it. AsukaUnit-02 Pilot 19:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Sure thing! Creedy can be a dangerous place, so be prepared for a fight. But I'm sure you know that! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome Bob, I am a newbie. I was a bit busy finding NT facilities and updating Danger Status. Can you tell me whether the resources regenerate when it is taken away by a survivor from its original location? And anything from my side, just ask. Necrotech54 (talk) 14:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, I was on a break, so I checked my wiki page way too late. thanks for the welcome again. Fury'54 (talk) 06:08, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Extreme repair

That clusters done. Whats next? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Break any records? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Still on the hunt. I've mostly been surveying safe/intact suburbs, but might end up in part of the DMZ soon, which has been occupied by the Dead for months. Will keep you posted. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Suburb Groups

Hey Bob. I noticed you reverted the changes I made to the group listings in some of the suburbs I frequent due to me not being a member of said groups. How are we supposed to keep that section up to date in light of the fact there hasn't been an accounting of active and inactive groups on the wiki since 2013? Thanks -JAZED (talk) 20:48, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

I would suggest asking said groups on their talk page and if they don't reply in a few weeks, I wouldn't have a problem taking them off. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:31, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Jazed! The short answer is to second what DDR said above — a group in question needs to be clearly inactive, not just visible in-game, to be de-listed. If the group puts an inactivity template on their page, then it's fine to de-list them; otherwise, you should leave a message on their talk page specifically regarding their listings, and if they fail to respond in, I'd say a month, you can remove the listings.
The longer answer is that the original impetus for the existence of the GSGMs wasn't how out-of-date group listings were, but because the listings on each suburb page were becoming untenably long. That's definitely not the case on the current lists. The goal of having an up-to-date set of listings has always been secondary, but, that being said, we are definitely overdue for another GSGM. Are you interested in helping out? Please leave your signature here and we'll let you know when we get started. if you feel it's a major problem please make sure to get involved, and get those you know involved, in the GSGM. Seeing more volunteers listed there would definitely give the Massacre a kick in the pants. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:41, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

active places

Do you know any act o be parts of malton for new players to gain experience? Thanks for the welcome--Cain Howell (talk) 00:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Apparently we are at war?

I'm only back to the game since a few weeks, and wasn't aware RR was even active anymore. All but one of my old contacts have their names crossed out. I saw one other member at my old NT building, but it otherwise seemed to be operating on the strength of tradition. Kind of makes sense because honestly what was the point? Well I left out of boredom, and I'm up in Houldenbank tagging along with some folks who like to repair phone masts, and I run into this joker.

MichaeI Jacks0n id=1564806

Half a decade seems an awfully long time to hold a grudge against a mostly inactive group. The Greatorex clinic is powered but barricaded, and I see no indication of anyone trying to bring it back. Their group page hasn't been updated in 4 years. Was this person even a member, or do you think he was just looking to start trouble in the suburb? What the hell are they even using for a PKer database anymore?

. . . einexile (talk) 17:57, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Wow! Haven't heard of RR=PR being active in ages. That said, I've never run a survivor in the southeast. It's possible Michael is maintaining a personal bounty list — the most recently-active major bounty board was on NecroConnect, which is still up but hasn't been updated in at least a year. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 05:06, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the response and info. I haven't used the wiki in a long time and forgot how to check. I left some graffiti in Houldenbank declaring RR defunct, which I rather thought it was at the time, and it's certainly defunct in Houldenbank. I wouldn't have left except I didn't want to get the people with me killed. I'll be damned if I'm removing the group tag though. I was thinking of going back to the Mad Craskers but not now! . . . einexile (talk) 19:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Grateful

Thank you for the greeting, Mr. Moncrief. There's a lot to learn in Malton and I really appreciate having someone I can ask for a word of advice.

I do have one question: I've noticed some people have a really nice little page set up for their character and I was wondering if there was a link that perhaps had a template for making up such a page. It would be nice if it had instructions or recipes for making those jolly little -?buttons? I don't know the real name- rectangular boxes that have a few words explaining the owner believes in this or that policy or supports a particular group. Do you know the little label-thingees I mean?

Once again, thank you for your kind greeting. Malton can be a bit intimidating!--Catherine Cushing (talk) 04:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:18, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

My signature is not right

Hi, please excuse a sort of dopey question, but I just noticed that my signature has the word "Talk" in parentheses behind my main character's username. What did I do to make that happen? Other people rarely seem to have that; it's usually just their usernames. I'm not sure how to alter it to plain "Catherine Cushing". Would you happen to have a link about fixing this, or...(should I stop thinking about this)? Thanks for your time.--Catherine Cushing (talk) 10:08, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I know I'm not Bob, but I'm going to answer anyway :P All generic signatures will have it looking like yours, so it's nothing you've done. You can create an alternate one if you like, which changes the way your signature appears. If you want to do that, and need a hand, we're more than happy to help :) stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 11:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Yep! The default appearance is "Username (talk)", where "talk" links to your talk page. On my custom signature, for example, the word "Moncrief" links to my talk page instead. The basic instructions on how to change your signature are here — but as Stelar said, if you have any questions, just let us know! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Recruitment Page Problems

Dear Bob,

Something seems very off at the Recruitment page. At first I thought it was me making a typo somewhere adn then I tried to fix it....even going so far as to script the Zerger's recruitment page, but now it seems I made it worse!

Would you be so kind as to look what went wrong and perhaps fix it? I promise I will stay away from other people's pages in the next 12 years! Boertje (talk) 11:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi! I believe I've fixed it. Does it look correct to you now? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Yup! Thanks a bunch. I think I can sleep tonight 😎👍 Boertje (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Revive Tool Confusion

Hello, Bob. One of my characters ("Constance Claremont") is still on the DEM Revivification Tool request list thingee (http://tiny.cc/reviv). She got a revive a week ago. Was I supposed to edit her off the list? (And leave a thank-you note lower down the page?) I'm confused by this. Where exactly do I go to do this? There's no "editing" tab. Do you know of a link I should read or...? Thank you for your time. Catherine Cushing (talk) 10:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Yep! You just have to re-submit the request in the same form (with your UID# & location) and select "Revived!" in the drop-down menu under "Status". I've cleared out your entry using this method (sorry for the "Checking if this works" message!) Hope that helps! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Catherine Cushing (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Any word about Easter?

Hi, Bob. Have you heard anything about whether there will be a supply crate drop for us this Easter? I found a crowbar, so I'm all ready to go. It sure would be great if there were. Thank you for your time. Catherine Cushing (talk) 08:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Unless you have some insider info, I doubt it. The last supply crate drops were more than ten years ago, in 2009. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Can confirm. Sys-ops and even bureaucrats receive no special advance notice of any changes or features to the game. Only very rarely on wiki-related business (the last time in 2014 when a wiki update corrupted text on wiki pages on a large scale), and even then this is generally publicly handled on the wiki. - As there hasn't been a crate drop in 9 years, don't hold your breath for the 10th year being the charm. -- Spiderzed 21:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Well, that sure is disappointing news. Do we still get any Christmas trees and decorations? Or even just snow? Catherine Cushing (talk) 08:43, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Christmas trees (plastic ones found in malls, real trees cut down in parks), Christmas lights and tinsel are all still available during December. No snow or fog anymore unfortunately. I think masks are also available around Halloween in certain corners of certain malls (or it might be all malls, I'm not sure). stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 09:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

A gift! Oh my gosh!

Wow, that is exactly what I was trying to describe. All I had been able to find was columns of raw code. This looks to be so organized already, that even I could manage to construct my idea! Thank you, Bob. That is incredibly kind. Catherine Cushing (talk) 23:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

It worked like a charm. And I even spelled your name properly this time! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Catherine Cushing (talk) 00:52, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Great! I had a few minutes between my daily AP-spending and going to work, so I thought I'd whip something together. Looks like you figured out all the parameters (border color, etc) right away. Let me know if there's something else I can help with! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Don't see where I'm supposed to choose category

Hi, Bob. Sorry to bother you again, but I am confused by labeling the images I upload to the UD site. I feel badly that you always end up finishing up for me. I should know how to do this. I know I'm supposed to designate a category, but I'm not sure of all the possible choices (I mean, is there a set list someplace of the 20 possible designation labels, for example, something really concrete like that?) And besides choosing the best category to sort the image into, I don't understand where I'm supposed to post the label I choose - just in the "Descriptions" box? Sorry to be so thick. Thanks for your time. Catherine Cushing (talk) 19:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Catherine! All the highest-level subcategories can be seen in Category:Images; I generally just file the image into one of those, unless it's of a building/location in which case I try to add it to the relevant category in Category:Location Images.
When you upload a file, you can just type [[Category:ZZZ]] (where "ZZZ" is the relevant category name) in the description box.
That said, don't worry! Almost nobody, including longtime wiki users, successfully add categories to all (or any) images they upload. I think of adding the categories as part of my regular wiki maintenance activities. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
One quick follow-up note: it's important to put the category in [[double brackets]], not just single — otherwise, the category won't link properly. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:08, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Ah, nuts! I should have remembered the double-brackets. Sorry again, Bob. Maybe I'll get it right the next time. Catherine Cushing (talk) 05:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

What is the wiki protocol?

Hi, Bob. I am writing about the McMurtrie Building page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_McMurtrie_Building

What is the protocol for updating a common page like this? I haven't been able to find a reference to that procedure in the UD wiki. I'm terrified of doing a technical wiki-vandalism or some other offense out of ignorance.

I would like to correct a piece of inaccurate information. Specifically, in the fifth paragraph: "...with the building currently serving as the Black Ops HQ for the Souless Survivors."

They are now based out of Rhodenbank. While it doesn't mention the Souless [sic] Survivors on the Rhodenbank page (for some reason) there is a userbox for the Souless on their own page that mentions Rhodenbank specifically. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Souless_Survivors So, it should say: "...with the building formerly serving as the Black Ops HQ for Souless Survivors, now based in Rhodenbank."

(Appropos of nothing, it drives me nuts that they spelled "soulless" incorrectly.)

Thank you for your time. Catherine Cushing (talk) 00:53, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Catherine!
For location pages, you're totally welcome to make edits like the above, since they're intended to be updated by the community at large. The places to tread carefully are the group pages themselves — a group is considered to control its own group page, so any edits by outsiders there can be questionable. But location pages, you can edit freely. (The group members may come and undo the update, of course, but that means that they have some other information and may also update their group page to reflect it.)
So the edit you mentioned above should be a-ok! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:56, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Bob. (I'd never do anything on somebody else's page. Might try to talk to them, mention whatever the matter was, but I'd never go in and correct their spelling, etc. Maybe they did it that way on purpose; what do I know? Anyway, I have more than enough trouble to try to puzzle out on my own pages.) Catherine Cushing (talk) 02:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of unused images

Hi, what is the etiquette when nominating an unused image for deletion? I want one gone especially because its gross. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 06:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Just post a link to it on A/SD, as long as it's been truly unused for at least two weeks. (Same is true if it's a prior revision of an image in use.) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
You don't even technically need to go through A/SD for unused images that are more than 2 weeks old because they are scheduled deletions. In theory you could just let a sysop know on our talk page or discord and we can do it without red tape. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 17:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
That works too — I suggested A/SD because that way multiple sops are more likely to see it. If somebody DMs me individually, there's always a chance I won't notice for a day or two. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:51, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Wrong category again

Hi, Bob. I suppose something like a full beer mug should have been placed in "Category: Pub Images", shouldn't it? Catherine Cushing (talk) 08:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

I think just "Category:Foods" is fine. But you're always welcome to edit and add more categories! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 10:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Bob, I'm working on a draft page for the Mad Craskers Godson Arms pub. So I think what I'll do is sort that kind of thing (pub fare) into both categories [[Category:Food]] and [[Category:Pub Images]].

Wish I lived in England, then I could go about and take some pictures of my own. No pubs in Oregon, USA. Catherine Cushing (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good! Btw, feel free to keep replying under the same header, even if another conversation is happening on this page. Each header is more like a thread, so keeping a topic under one header keeps things orderly. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Discord

Either you or some other sysop banned me on the discord server. Please cite a rule I broke there that legitimates a ban. You can't, because I didn't break any. Your rules don't have any value, as you simply ban people because you don't like them. WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD (talk) 16:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi there! Please familiarize yourself with the following from #resources-rules on the server:
Bob Moncrief said:
2. Off-topic discussion, especially discussion that disrupts the use of the server for on-topic purposes, may lead to the following consequences:
  • "timeout", in which the server becomes read-only for that user
  • permaban
    There is no specific scale of escalations. Users should assume that violations will lead to permaban every time; timeouts and temporary bans are at my discression.
    3. Familiarize yourself with the Discord TOS. If you violate it, you're out and your messages will be reported.
Posting recipes for illicit drug manufacturing is illegal in the jurisdiction of the owner of the server (me) and thereby violates Discord's TOS against illegal activity. In addition, what you posted is both off-topic and blatantly disruptive, and therefore violates the above. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:09, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Also I can't believe I misspelled "discretion". I've corrected the error on the server, but I leave my shame here for posterity. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:11, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
I googled that recipe in under 1 minute, dumped it in google translate and posted it on discord. And there are numerous off topic messages on the discord that didn't result in bans which brings me back to my first point "your rules don't have any value, you simply ban people because you don't like them." WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD (talk) 17:29, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Just because something's widely available doesn't mean it's legal. And different sites and platforms have different policies towards acceptable content.
Quite a few people have received warnings (by private message) or temporary timeouts for off-topic posting. I am a capricious discord dictator, yes, and decide upon my own whim when something deserves outright banning. If you have a problem with that, you should have left the server as soon as you joined it. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre. -- Spiderzed 18:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
You're talking to a fascist, man. A neo-nazi. The most notorious one out there. Did you really think I was going to have a problem with dictatorship..? Non-aryan guys are even dumber than they look.
Now that I've established the fact you aren't able to form a semi-comprehensive thought, I think it's useless to elaborate on the contradiction in your stream of thoughts by mentioning that you wouldn't have banned any other Discord member for posting said recipe or any few offline messages whatsoever. WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD (talk) 02:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
"The most notorious one out there"? I think I know what that means.
I take "non-Aryan" as a compliment, since I often get confused for one irl. The Vikings and English, those esteemed Germanic-language peoples, both did horrible things to my ancestors for centuries — I can tell you all about it sometime if you ask.
And for posterity: I'd have banned anybody for posting the aforementioned recipe. I'm capricious, but consistently capricious. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:06, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

ooo... drama... i returned to the wiki on the best of times :D --hagnat 18:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

* finishes eating his popcorn * well, seems like this finished right on time. Time to go back into hiatus --hagnat 13:24, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Though I love to see a good old-fashioned attempt at wikilawyering as much as the next person, those wiki-based rules simply don't apply to the discord. Simple as that. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:02, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Appearantly you think I'm dumb enough to not look up the discord rules before posting there WHITE POWDER SKINHEAD (talk) 02:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Well... he's right. You are dumb enough, because Bob had to remind your dumb ass. --RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!02:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
I daresay that makes you even stupider, seeing as there are several instances in the rules where you could have been banned, including the clause that states Bob runs the discord as he wishes and he, as well as sysops, can ban anyone at will. And you say you read those rules and still came here demanding justification? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 04:30, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!

"Sick Enough"!? Boy, that's some great name for a group, jeez. :P Catherine Cushing (talk) 04:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Calling Terri Fick!! Can you get to us and do a revival or two?

Terri are you nearby? Are you able to help us? We are at an indoor/outdoor RP, junkyard [98,76].
No one's left alive here to revive us!
http://iamscott.net/1568942603157.html Thanks. Catherine Cushing (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Contacted via discord. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Enjoy your break, Bob!

Have a relaxing, fun time and enjoy the holidays! Catherine Cushing (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! But I'm not on break, just my main alt is ;) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:12, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Well, that's a relief! I was worried thinking you weren't around watching over things. :D Catherine Cushing (talk) 01:14, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Appreciation

Thanks for the friendly welcome! --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 21:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Admin request

If you are looking for more administrators, I'd be willing to volunteer. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 01:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Auri! The normal requirements to apply for a sysop are listed at the promotions page. One of the listed requirements is having been an editor on the wiki for six months or so; while not a hard and fast requirement, this is generally the amount of time it takes to learn the ropes of the wiki as well as see the admin pages in action. If you have any questions about wiki culture or procedure, let me know! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Sure thing! Plus, if I do well, you have the majority of making me an admin anyway, seems that I presume you are a bureaucrat. But, for now, I am here to ensure that this wiki is what it should be, a user-made encyclopedia, and not a playground for vandals. With me here as the most awesome editor, this wiki will be reaching a much higher standard. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:25, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Dove Windsor

Hello, I'd like to make my own article: Dove Windsor. I'd just like to let you know. The article explains the work that I do on the Urban Dead Wiki. I have to admit, I am quite a legend on here. I hope you don't mind, but I'm making an awesome article. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Please tell which articles that I am allowed to edit and which ones I am not. I am not a member of the MMS. I am just the article janitor here who improves grammar. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:22, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:35, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Sidebar Request

Hey, Bob! Is it okay if you can move the random page link from the wiki section underneath the recent changes section? Thanks! --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I assume you mean in the left-hand sidebar? There's been a very long series of discussions on the exact look & ordering of the sidebar (that I encourage you to read — it gives quite a taste of the way the wiki works!) Any requests for changes to it can be added to the most recent discussion topic there. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, if the American version isn't acceptable, I will switch it to the British version, sorry! After all, I am British. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:43, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Again, sorry! I thought that the last article was just a normal one. If it said Journal: etc, I wouldn't edit it. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
If it has a group name at the start before the slash, then it's a group's page. stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 02:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
@User:Stelar Thanks! --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Bob! I will just stick to incorrect articles not user pages. But, I can correct my messages, can't I? --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 02:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Sure thing! Yes, you can always edit your own messages; and on your own talk page, you can freely remove others's messages (but not edit them). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Bob, I now know which articles I can edit. The ones without the forward slash. Thanks to Stelar! --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 03:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Some pages without a forward slash still are best not to edit, e.g. group pages that you don't own. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, it would say Group:. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 03:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
No, groups don't have a specific prefix. e.g. Malton Taoist Temple is a group but has no prefix. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:07, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, this is harder than I thought! Okay, if I accidentially edit a page you think it is a group, just revert it. If the pages that I edit are not in the group section, then good, leave it be. I don't do this on purpose, you know. I just want to fix grammatical errors. --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 03:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Normally you can tell what kind of page something is from the content of the page, or sometimes from the categories listed at the bottom, if that helps. Repeatedly editing group pages that aren't yours can get you in trouble even if it's unintentional, because it would indicate you can't tell what kind of page is a group page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:11, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay, so it will say either, group, user, etc in the categories? --Auri (Express yourself, be heard!) 03:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
User pages are always "User:", group pages have the name of the group in the mainspace. So the ones you had edited (the Bob reversed) had the group name before the slash. stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 03:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Danger Reports

I suppose I should probably say something since I've been changing TONS of your edits. I've been updating year+ old stuff to "unknown", with the intention of shortening that down to 10>8>6 months if I ever get caught up. Still not sure I've caught all the 2018 stuff yet tho (is there a way to search that?) EthrDemon (talk) 22:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately there's no way to manually search it. Back when the MDU was active I would check every status and mark it unknown on a five-month cycle, but that meant manually opening every building page in the city — a time-consuming process, as I'm sure you've found out. There used to be a bot run by The Rooster that marked statuses unknown automatically, but he hasn't been active since 2011 (it may be possible to code a new one, but I am not tech-savvy enough). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Even a basic template could work, something that allows you to go to say, add {{2020}} to all updates you make in 2020, and then in the future someone can go through all status updates that link to that. Have one for every year etc. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, maybe something like that is workable. It would be great if the template could default to unknown if the report is past a certain age. A magic word? We got things like {{REVISIONDAY}} to work with, for example. But we don't have things like if functions / conditionals... so I'm not sure. We'd need parser functions. Perhaps there's a way to sorta "override" the templates semi-manually. If it were June, for example, you change something in the danger report template itself so that anything in April (for example) gets marked as unknown. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
I just tested it out on my sandbox and I think one can do something like [[Category:LastUpdate/{{REVISIONYEAR}}]] which should categorise the page in the year the last revision was made to it... unfortunately adding that to all the existing pages is going to set the last revision as now, so it would only be useful going forward, unless there is a trick to work around that (maybe through a template they already all transclude?) --OrangeTHIEF (talk) 10:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Putting it in the BuildingStatus template puts all pages that use that template into the categories: the DangerReports, but also the building pages, BICs, etc. Not sure of another template that wouldn't have the same effect. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:11, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Possibly we could use Template:UpdateDR - from a quick look I think that only gets used/transcluded on actual User:DangerReport/x pages (and a few other user pages). If we put [[Category:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}{{REVISIONYEAR}}]] in the UpdateDR template, we end up with categories looking like DangerReport2018, DangerReport2019, DangerReport2020. ROOTPAGENAME will defend against any transclusions of UpdateDR in places other than User:DangerReport, as while they will still get categorised, the category will be named differently due to the differing root page name. --OrangeTHIEF (talk) 12:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and made this change (with a couple of tweaks). My hope is that the template update should cascade through soon and then we'll have some nice by-year categories. It should be pretty easy to undo my attempt if not! --OrangeTHIEF (talk) 00:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Seems to be working, but only the ones currently being updated are filling in (from my view). Job queue is at 6008, so I assume ~5500 of those are filling in the categories. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:08, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
I've used the purge API and worked through the suburbs, all the categories are now populated - so now all the buildings last updated in 2018 are easy to see! Some details on discord if anyone is interested. --OrangeTHIEF (talk) 17:33, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
For reference the categories are linked as following: Category:DangerReport 2011, Category:DangerReport 2014, Category:DangerReport 2018, Category:DangerReport 2019, Category:DangerReport 2020. It's cool how some haven't been updated in 9 years. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:27, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
I feel like from a practicality point of view, it would be best to consider this as a feature that will only work from here on. Don't worry about past statuses. Too much effort and probably impossible. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 01:00, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

DEM

Hey Bob. I'm wanting to update some of the Malton DEM leadership pages and I noticed that it is using code to pull the information from somewhere else (DEMpos). I dont want to screw anything up. Can you point me to the correct pages to update? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DTTL (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Hmm! It looks like the DEMpos refers to Template:DEMpos. On that page you can replace any given listing, and it should update on Department of Emergency Management/Contact (and anywhere else DEMpos is used). Hope that helps! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:21, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Happy to be here!

Hey Bob!

Thanks for the welcome; really nice of you to say hi :) Project Welcome itself seems like an awesome imitative.

I've played on and off throughout the years, and got back into UD recently with some new characters. Originally, I was providing intel to a group on TRP statuses and such, but realised I could help more than just them with that info. Hopefully the updates are up to scratch!

If there's anything else newb-friendly I can help with on the wiki, feel free to point me towards it. Otherwise, I'll content myself with DangerReport updates for now.

See you around!

Nate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PhoenixPyres (talkcontribs) 21 May 2020.

a/vb archive

you may want to also protect that archive i made for you --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 02:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Thought I did so once I realized you'd made it yesterday. Cheers! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Reporting Characters

Hey Bob, a quick question, a survivor just destroyed my generator is there any way to report him? And I have no idea about his whereabouts. If you know how to report, just report this character " Garett Hammond ". Thanks! Fury'54 (talk) 06:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Destroying generators isn't against the game rules, hope this helps. --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 06:43, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Also replying further on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)