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2018

Poke poke

Hey Boxy, you've hit the four-month inactivity mark, so I'm poking you to say hi and halt the A/DM procedure. Cheers! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 00:10, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

*poke poke* —Aich on— 18:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, as it's been solidly over a week, we've had to demote you from sysop. Come on back anytime! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

He passed by quietly, and in his sleep. Farewell Mr. Box A ZOMBIE ANT 07:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh noes! -- boxy 14:43, 29 May 2018 (BST)

I don't know what to do with this information. Boxy for President! —Aich on— 15:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

the prodigal son returns. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

2017

March

hey

What's up you big homo! How's things --CyberRead240 12:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

2016

January 2016

Policy Withdrawal?

Hey Boxy, your policy proposal hasn't been discussed in a couple months. Unless you want to move it to voting I'm going to declare it withdrawn in a few days. Thanks! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 02:28, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Sure. I suggest you do something with the current sig policy (even if it's just fucking it right off, and just going by precedent/common sense), because it's worse than useless -- boxy 13:52, 9 January 2016 (BST)

That's not really a bad plan, seeing as how during an extreme circumstance a good sysop would shut it down regardless of the policy (as you did Box, well done). However, barring that, it's not a bad outline to fall back on in non-extreme cases. A ZOMBIE ANT 05:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

The very least that needs to happen, is that this ridiculous section needs to go. It basically says that anything not specifically listed, is fine, and it's the first thing that the smart arse, edge-lords quote, when drama-whoring their fucked up signatures. And it's completely wrong. Fucked if I know who put it in there, but they need punching in the reproductive organs, whoever it was -- boxy 12:08, 11 January 2016 (BST)

Absolutely agree. Well said. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

2015

October 2015

¿Qué?

Was my vote invalid?

While on the topic, is multi-voting no longer a problem?

Yrs,

Revenant 13:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

You had the same bullshit text covering over other people's votes, so yeah, you fuck with the formatting of a page, you lose the right to vote, and get a vandal banning case against you. And yeah, he can't vote for both. They'll be struck -- boxy 13:26, 9 October 2015 (BST)

Bugger. Looked fine when I tested it.

“Lose the right to vote”? Got a rule, policy, or guideline covering that, do ya? Revenant 13:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

You've already used that bullshit, "get out of jail free" card, on your signature. You know full well that it fucks up the formatting for others, so it's vandalism, which gets reverted on sight -- boxy 13:38, 9 October 2015 (BST)

That was orders of magnitude out from either of the sigs, but meh, I suppose you’re right: some browsers really don’t seem to handle it at all well and it’s apparently unpredictable. ⇜ɼ̲̪͕ﻉ̣͉̼̼̬͍͇͝۷̘ﻉ͚̗̰͎̹̰ก͔̠̲̱ค̛̗̱̖̭̙̝ก̞̝̣̩Շ͉͉̼͖͉̦ 13:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

You love pushing the limit for not other reason than to see what you can get away with. Even with your current sig. And the wiki is overly tolerant of it, from you. You know that you can test that shit in a sandbox somewhere. So next time, do it -- boxy 14:01, 9 October 2015 (BST)

Just out of curiosity, wasn’t editing people’s signatures on their posts considered vandalism? Revenant 14:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Weren't you a sysop at one stage? You should already know the answer to that question -- boxy 14:17, 9 October 2015 (BST)

^{(That would be why I provided the link.) ^{ʇuɐuǝʌǝɹ} 14:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)}

Thanks for coming -- boxy 13:58, 9 January 2016 (BST)

June 2015

Just Asking For Help

Hi there, I can't seem to upload images to the wiki, I'm getting the message : Upload warning, Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/c/cf". Is there any chance you could help with this please? Also, if you're not sure what's happening and nothing can be done, would it be ok if you uploaded the image for me please? It's just for a zombie group, and is here : http://i.imgur.com/KSQTCzg.jpg

Thanks loads if you can help anyway! -- Xyu888 10:44, 6 June 2015 (BST)

Yeah, unfortunately, after the last update, it became impossible to upload or delete images. It's been brought up before. Perhaps look for an image already uploaded, that may suit your needs? -- boxy 09:58, 6 June 2015 (BST)

Ah ok, will try to do that instead then, and thanks for the help. -- Xyu888 11:10, 6 June 2015 (BST)

Photos

You mind easing up on the photos? They're filling up the recent changes page. --Jerran1 (talk) 19:38, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Filling up RC with actual edits is how things are supposed to work. ;) Filling up RC with unnecessary edits that could have been handled via previewing is a problem since it makes finding the actual edits more difficult. —Aich on— 20:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

True, but he could've staggered them or something, instead of filling up the whole RC in less than an hour. --Jerran1 (talk) 21:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Ehh, better to get it over quickly, that way it leaves RC quickly. Plus, better to get it over when you're in the mood to do it, since otherwise it may not get done at all, ya know? —Aich on— 21:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Wow, what a sweet world we live in where 200 or so edits in a day is filling up RC etc. The whole place still feels super quiet to me, even with Boxy's edits.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

We should get the Rooster back - and disable the bot group for his toys this time. Then the hapless newbs would learn what an active RC really looks like :P -- Spiderzed ▋ 09:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I suggest you increase the number of edits shown on your recent changes page (mine is at 250, and shows plenty of edits below my spam) or you could hide minor edits -- boxy 21:53, 4 June 2015 (BST)

Lol A ZOMBIE ANT 00:34, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

May 2015

Cat Business

In two days from now a cat decision is abrewing.
The Akule bid has hardly useful opinions on it. Extending it might be the best choice.
As for Hagnat, lolno? -- Spiderzed ▋ 16:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

It surprises me it didn't got archived yet for not being a serious bid--hagnat 16:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm inclined to consider both of them jokes, given that they were originally "nominated" with vandalism -- boxy 04:31, 14 May 2015 (BST)

Aw c'mon, i am right here. There is no need to 'consider them jokes', when i just outright said they were --hagnat 13:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

So let's cycle both as unsuccessful? I think I can agree with that. -- Spiderzed ▋ 14:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

*cahem* --hagnat 16:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

March 2015

Ross

Looks like Ross is still Boss? -- Spiderzed ▋ 19:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Bump for the bump god. Else I will just proceed on the weekend. -- Spiderzed ▋ 19:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

No hurry. --In Memoriam 21:57, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure -- boxy 04:09, 28 March 2015 (BST)

February 2015

Gnome

Discounting my own (positive) vote as a crat for a minute, I have a hunch that the community wants to retain AHLG. Any objections? -- Spiderzed ▋ 21:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. Gnome does good works -- boxy 08:01, 26 February 2015 (BST)

January 2015

Bummer

I was so sure at the time that ruins added smudged graffiti :/ A ZOMBIE ANT 03:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, was that you? Came across it by chance, and took a while for me to get the opportunity to confirm/disprove it :) -- boxy 12:07, 28 January 2015 (BST)

2014

Log in

Hello there! I just want to inform you that for the past few months new members cannot sign into this wiki. This is the message that keeps coming up. "Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information." I was hoping that you or any of the admins of this wiki page can look into this and solve the problem. It would help this wiki come back to once how it was. Thank you! --LuE Colo 20:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

SZ

A huge gap, I must say. I'm happy with SZ to retain his buttons, unless something mental happens in the next few days. --Ross less ne s s 17:46, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

The wiki obviously wouldn't function without him -- boxy 00:50, 28 August 2014 (BST)

garden decorations

Gnome will up in a few days. The bid looks unanimous. Unless he gets revealed to have been Cornholioo all the time I think we can hand him the buttons back on Thursday. -- Spiderzed ▋ 16:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

*bump*Wednesday. Bid will run out tomorrow. -- Spiderzed ▋ 23:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good to me :) -- boxy 05:54, 12 June 2014 (BST)

Bob Moncrief

My fellow crat, it seems like there is a notable notion to keep Bob, but also likely that he will be auto-demoted shortly after the start of the world cup. Thoughts? -- Spiderzed ▋ 19:58, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to demote him before the automatic, inactivity clause kicks in (shortly). He's a good psysop, when he's around -- boxy 10:21, 10 May 2014 (BST)

I'm not comfortable with re-evaluating anyone who doesn't show up at his RE, and hasn't given any response for months. I'd rather cycle it as unsucessful and let him re-apply when - or if - he shows up again on the wiki. -- Spiderzed ▋ 20:54, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

OK. I'll demote him then -- boxy 07:15, 19 May 2014 (BST)

Question answered

Yea... on my talk page... after 5 years. --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 05:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

2013

Broken Redirect

Hey there Boxy, this page showed up on the Broken Redirects-list while I was patrolling: User:Boxy/Sandbox/UHUB. Please consider putting it up for deletion and help keep the wiki clean ;) PB&J 12:59, 19 June 2013 (BST)

I just deleted it as a broken redirect due to a page move, which doesn't need documenting (as it's a scheduled deletion). Thanks for pointing that out -- boxy 15:13, 21 June 2013 (BST)

Great Fire banner

Hey Boxy, I was wondering why you removed the ALiM banner from Great Fire of 1912? There was actually a discussion about the banner's presence when the article was up for FAs, and a discussion on Nallan's talk page concluded that the banner should stay. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:40, 2 June 2013 (BST)

They don't own the page, any more than Hagnat owns the BIC, which he created. They can arby me if they still care -- boxy 22:15, 2 June 2013 (BST)

Cool. Just wanted to make sure you acted with awareness of the history of the issue. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:03, 3 June 2013 (BST)

He totally hates that banner. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 21:58, 3 June 2013 (BST)

It's better than it used to be, but still doesn't belong on backstory pages -- boxy 03:21, 4 June 2013 (BST)

Thanks

Thanks for categorizing. It's one of those things I'm not very good at and usually forget to do. Any chance you're planning on attending the Big Bash? We could always use another zombie in the mix. ;) —Aich on— 03:07, 2 June 2013 (BST)

I actually did wander on over to buttonville, after reading the BB4 page. Will see how it goes -- boxy 03:41, 2 June 2013 (BST)

Regarding this

I bet it's an extension I installed in Chrome the other day. It looks like all of the mangled parts were areas that included numbers of some sort, and the extension may have tried to replace them as part of what it does. Thanks for catching that. I wasn't aware of the fact that it could even do something like that. —Aich on— 04:54, 21 May 2013 (BST)

Sorry

Sorry, I forgot. I will try to sign my comments in the future.Lpha 23:58, 19 April 2013 (BST)

Sorry to interrupt...

Could you please look at Sexualharrison's vote as well? In my opinion, "Kill because fuck you" is just as inane as "because, kittens". Thank you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lpha (talk • contribs) 21:55, 10 April 2013.

Boxy struck Ross' vote because it was unjustified. "Because, kittens" doesn't mean anything and was intentionally random. SH's vote is far from random or meaningless, and was clearly made in response to a discussion you started on his talk page. Besides which, it's common courtesy to take a personal dispute up with that person directly before trying to involve figures of authority. Have you considered simply talking to Harrison yourself? He clearly saw your initial request as an unnecessary one that made no sense, so he took offense. Perhaps if you could explain why you requested that in the first place, he may be more amenable. Or you may want to take the high ground and simply apologize for any offense that may have been taken, even though it was not your intent to have offended him. —Aich on— 23:21, 10 April 2013 (BST)

this is going to be good.--User:Sexualharrison23:43, 10 April 2013

Well, I already had a look at it, when you brought it up on Aichon's talk page, and posted this;

boxy said:

If you'll notice, he did give a justification in his original vote, to wit: "Meh", which translates to "this is a bland and uninspiring suggestion, and I could either vote keep or kill, so don't give me any shit about my vote, or it may change".
Or were those just the voices in my head?

-- boxy 10:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)

Surely you could have worked out what his justification was for that responce. You read his original vote, you chose to give him shit about it, even after being told not to worry about such trivialities -- boxy 03:48, 11 April 2013 (BST)

	Wah!
	Save me sysops!!!!111one

--User:Sexualharrison22:10, 11 April 2013

I still have more keep votes than kill votes, you know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lpha (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Are you aware that you need a 2/3 majority to have your suggestion marked as Peer Reviewed? And that you're only one vote away from losing that? Don't count your chickens before they hatch. —Aich on— 01:26, 13 April 2013 (BST)

I think it's cute that you think I care -- boxy 03:27, 13 April 2013 (BST)

I know right. guess I'll continue to grief you in-game than and you asked for it too.--User:Sexualharrison07:01, 13 April 2013

Missed Talk Pages

One of your recent mass deletion requests couldn't be carried out: The Shadows of Hope still have a group page, so their talk page isn't a scheduled deletion. -- Spiderzed █ 15:31, 7 April 2013 (BST)

Good thing I didn't do them myself, then

-- boxy 22:55, 7 April 2013 (BST)

Clearly this is a conspiracy, if only Funt hadn't run off in fear of the oligarchy. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 05:31, 8 April 2013 (BST)

I miss the old Mod Conspiracy days. When are you going to become a crat, so you can boot me out and give me a reason to revive the wild paranoia that lurks just beneath the surface?

-- boxy 10:43, 8 April 2013 (BST)

What happened to that anyway? Even I voted for Karek, and my vote counts as three! A ZOMBIE ANT 15:14, 8 April 2013 (BST)

The same thing that always does, the shadow proclamation. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 16:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)

You can have my seat. I don't want it and won't seek it, come next election. —Aich on— 16:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)

I'm really indifferent to the whole process. I'm basically just here to kill time. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 17:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)

People, Karek, there to kill people. You'll never be a good crat without the murderous urge. A ZOMBIE ANT 22:18, 8 April 2013 (BST)

Very Old Character Looking to Play Again

Hello, my name is now Mikhail1979, but I used to be MikhailA, director of Lejnair Corp. and what not. It's been six years, but I suddenly have the itch to play again. Unfortuantely, I have since lost my passwords to my wiki account as well at the four characters I had in the game. I'm hoping you or some of the other sysops or even Kevan could help me out with this. I just would like to play again, for old times sake. If you can help, just let me know. I'll even provide necessary info if needed. Thanks!--Mikhail1979 22:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

2012

Damn it

That is all.--SA 09:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Loads of Crat Stuff

Anyway, at the end of the week there's going to be another 2 evaluations, and then you're up for crat. So try and be around ok? --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 16:30, 4 October 2012 (BST)

Yo, I'll make decisions on both A/RE's tomorrow. Unless you appear. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.--Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 16:41, 9 October 2012 (BST)

I'm easy, either way, with teh general. He's pretty well inactive, atm, but he tends to be that way, and then comes back, and helps out, without stirring shit up. Rev seems to be doing enough to keep his place -- boxy 14:03, 10 October 2012 (BST)

I'm with demote. Not even a squeak during the bid, even after talk page mentions. Revs fine though. I'll do some things tonight, once the week is officially up. Welcome back .--Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 15:04, 10 October 2012 (BST)

Karek A/RE

Discuss?--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 18:40, 26 September 2012 (BST)

DISCUSS??--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 18:59, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Yeah...I don't envy you guys right now. :-/ —Aich on— 19:49, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Surely thats normal. Also, Im nixing slr bid as he fails loads of criteria and stuff.--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 20:35, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Anyway, I'll give box until the first, or make a random decision on my own. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 20:46, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Right. You've got 3 hours, otherwise I'm ruling on my own.--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 16:10, 1 October 2012 (BST)

It's funny cause normally I don't look at the bid page for a week and it goes pretty well. I respond to DDR this time and meh. Either way I'm not put out whatever the decision is and I'm pretty aware of the whys. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 04:07, 29 September 2012 (BST)

To paraphrase

To save time, in the upcoming Aichon promotion thing, I have no problem with his promotion. --Ross^WHO????ness 11:42, 22 August 2012 (BST)

Yes, agreed -- boxy 13:48, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Talking of which, there's a re-evaluation due in 6 hours. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 10:42, 1 September 2012 (BST)

This

User:Boxy/Sandbox Broken Redirects! --Ross^lessness 20:10, 22 June 2012 (BST)

... the fuck was I even doing there? lol. Cleared out -- boxy 09:44, 24 June 2012 (BST)

Fun

yer no fun!--User:Sexualharrison16:30, 14 June 2012

You should totally take me to arbies

-- boxy 22:31, 14 June 2012 (BST)

if only i had the time.--User:Sexualharrison23:45, 14 June 2012

Promotions

Just letting you know Karloth Vois's promotion bid has passed the two week discussion period and is due for bureaucrat review. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 12:03, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Um...Just so you know, Rev, as per policy, new opinions can continue to be added to the bid until the 'crats announce their decision. --Axe Hack 13:23, 22 May 2012 (BST)

NO. REALLY? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 14:04, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Theoreticallly, a bid can go on for an infinite amount of tine. Theoretically. --Axe Hack 14:52, 22 May 2012 (BST)

like my counting thread over on the NMC?--User:Sexualharrison15:34, 22 May 2012

Yeah even before that addition to the guidelines i remember one of Wan Yao's bid going for a month at least :/ D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:59, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Was that the one where he didn't officially accept for nearly 2 weeks, and the bids went from the time they were accepted (and had the required number of vouches)? -- boxy 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)

So, vois, my answer is "facial hair", and to pre empt future discussions, shortround shrugs sure. --Ross^lessness 17:15, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Shorty should do alright -- boxy 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)

Axe

Obvious re evaluation is obvious. --Ross^lessness 18:31, 9 May 2012 (BST)

Indeed -- boxy 09:02, 10 May 2012 (BST)

Much Love

<3 --Short round }.{ My Contributions 13:41, 7 May 2012 (BST)

Agreed. Your sheer awesomeness is unparalleled. -- † talk ? f.u. 14:00, 7 May 2012 (BST)

You're awesome

For all you do to make this wiki a success, I salute you. Keep doing what you do because you rock at it. --TheBardofOld 01:00, 15 April 2012 (BST)

I'm far to lazy and inactive to be described as awesome (any more

}. Just a grumpy old man, sitting on his porch, with his shotgun, occasionally shouting, "git orf mai lawn!" -- boxy 01:10, 15 April 2012 (BST)

But, if you're who you claim to be, then you must be Clint Eastwood and for that, you're awesome. Seriously, you are. Never doubt. --TheBardofOld 01:12, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Not Clint, maybe a co-star though

-- boxy 03:24, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Awwww XD --TheBardofOld 03:28, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Mis

I assume it's a no? --Ross^lessness 09:30, 8 April 2012 (BST)

? --Ross^lessness 08:58, 10 April 2012 (BST)

Hurry the fuck up. You are already 5 days late on demoting both Mis and Vapor, closing the VB case, and banning several spambots. Generaloberst 20:14, 10 April 2012 (BST)

You know what? Gimme another eight months of unused power just to piss this guy off.

23:44, 10 April 2012 (BST)

I agree with man, hell, the shitbrain almost makes me want to come back for the sole reason of driving him off the wiki. Not because it's right, but because I could. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:08, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Do you honestly mean that? I mean, you're one of the few sysops that I saw as not very biased. If you really ment that then I'm quite shocked. Generaloberst 01:22, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Vouch. ~

_{00:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)}

Vouchx2--User:Sexualharrison00:59, 11 April 2012

Oh! Me too! Vouch, Vouch, Vouch, Vouch. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 01:18, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Yes. Vouch. -- C h e e s e 13:31, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Box, I'll set a weeks deadline on this, or otherwise make my own decision. Grazi. --Ross^lessness 12:54, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Does that mean you will demote him tomorrow (when he's a week late), or in a week? Generaloberst 13:13, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Shakes head. --Ross^lessness 13:26, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Sorry about that. Yeah, sure, demote him... or keep him, just to piss off the nazi. Either way is good -- boxy 10:01, 12 April 2012 (BST)

LMFAO, and you still claim to be unbiased?? Generaloberst 12:00, 12 April 2012 (BST)

Did I make that claim? I've always maintained a healthy bias against people who just come here to be arseclowns, trolls or vandals -- boxy 12:52, 12 April 2012 (BST)

I feel for you

Listen, we gotta talk. You and I both know that I'm actually one of the finest warriors in Malton. Also, there are not many groups stronger than Nazi Zombies either. Perhaps only the RRF is stronger right now. During Operation Naaldloos we have defeated a group of about 250 survivors with less than 4 dozen of men. In the Blitz we're taking on 350 survivors with even less men, now that Fascist Italian has shown his true colors. I don't see how these things are "Nazi propaganda". I'm just stating fact. So leave my pages alone and do something useful. I'm taking warfare on Urban Dead to a whole new level. And that level is called Sitzkrieg. Just a small step for a man, but an enormous step, für das Vaterland. Generaloberst 16:40, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Lol. My army of level one members with no xp at all created one after another is the strongest group in Malton. --Ross^lessness 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

There we go again "yes but you are just a zerger". You don't even know my ingame name. Perhaps I'm not even wearing the tag. I can be everyone in Malton. Generaloberst 18:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry General, I never claimed you were zerging. I was merely commenting on the make up of the group you associate with. I believe we're talking about Zombie Nazis? I feel I have a right to call several of their members level one players with little or no Xp, created one after another over the course of only a few minutes. In fact I have. Here are four examples. You're getting a little obsessed that everyone thinks you're a zerger. --Ross^lessness 19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok so someone has multiple accounts within Nazi Zombies. How is that a problem? It was funny how at the time Corn and "Zyckde" both had multiple accounts within their group. Corn was then constantly called "zerger" and "PK-er" (both ingame as on the wiki), though what Zyckde did was considered ok. That is what propaganda is. Generaloberst 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

if you're noting propagandas affectiveness on the weak then why are you so goddamn shit at it, you spout more of it than you do vowels D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Learn English and learn to read. Not propaganda from my side. Generaloberst 14:07, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

you spend more time having tantrums about jews than you spend time breathing. If you actually legitimately believe that you don't use any sort of progaganda and that if one thinks you do he needs to learn english then you are literally the most retarded person who's ever been on this wiki. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

bitch got owned? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

When you create a number of pages like that, claiming to be glossary terms, but then proceed to fill the pages with group specific images and references to your own group and it's greatness, it becomes clear that they are nothing more than group propaganda/trolling. And they'll be moved -- boxy 21:48, 17 March 2012 (BST)

Yeah, and if other (non-Aryan) pages are made like Jihad tactics including fitting images then it's all ok suddenly. What you just said occurs on the wiki all the time. It really isn't anything specific for Nazi Zombies. Just stop being jealous that someone invented a tactic you wasn't able to come up with and go outside to find some friends. People wouldn't bully you all the time and you wouldnt be such a cunt. Generaloberst 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

if you legit think that jihad tactics is the same kettle of fish as the shitskrieg page where it matters then you are beyond help. i have no problem with either but just saying D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Lol. Why was corn called a zerger when he was zerging. That's an amazing question. --Ross^lessness 12:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Corn wasn't zerging, corn had multiple accounts in the same group. Generaloberst 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see how that could lead to us having differing opinions on this. Which alts are his? I could probably get some of them off the zerg list, if they aren't in the same burb. --Ross^lessness 16:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Damn, I was looking for this quote for ages. Completely pointless now. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 20:41, 28 September 2012 (BST)

How does the page that you referenced deal with my criticism of your pages being little more than group propaganda? I see no group links at all on that page. Perhaps you were expecting me to have other objections, and just argued against that strawman? -- boxy 13:41, 18 March 2012 (BST)

even more so he is using a joke tactic as his example. pure genuis --User:Sexualharrison13:49, 18 March 2012

Jihad tactics shows images of Jihadists. The pinata page has links to Maltonian Inquisition or however you spell the name. What you call 'propaganda' (I call it fact, or in case of images decoration) is all over the wiki. Generaloberst 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrat Elections

Hey, Boxy, I've started the Bureaucrat election for your seat. I hope you don't mind, but it was a day overdue, so I just did the leg work. Feel free to correct anything I've done wrong. :P --Short round }.{ My Contributions 11:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The system is designed so that anyone can start the process, so that's fine and dandy -- boxy 10:57, 16 March 2012 (BST)

Just so you know, Box-man, you can keep your seat. This is not some crazy plan to get into a close race with Boxy for the seat just to withdraw at the very last minute to ensure all my votes don't count, leaving absolutely no time for anyone who voted for me to change their vote, thus ensuring Boxy pretty much wins by default. Nope, definitely not some crazy plan like that. I'm just not that interested right now, but it is nice to see who is willing to trust me with such a role. --Axe Hack 11:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Remember me?

Because I remember you and will be very sad if you've forgotten me. --Mika los 209 02:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

yer sliping

(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 03:54 . . (+93) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Slambuts: ) YOINK!--User:Sexualharrison12:08, 28 February 2012 (bst)

Just because I didn't change the edit summary, doesn't mean I didn't yoink it, but good, regardless

. Getting bored yet, tilting at windmills? -- boxy 12:19, 28 February 2012 (BST)

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i've been playing this game for over 5 years. you tell me. also Don Quixote can kiss my arse!--User:Sexualharrison12:48, 28 February 2012 (bst)

-- boxy 19:35, 28 February 2012 (BST)

--User:Sexualharrison19:45, 28 February 2012 (bst)

(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 04:40 . . (+91) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Scamboxs: ) --User:Sexualharrison12:19, 29 February 2012 (bst)

Congrats, after 3 months of trying, you finally got one through! Time to stop, and be bask in the greatness of your glorious victory?

-- boxy 00:30, 1 March 2012 (BST)

i will only accept unconditional surrender--User:Sexualharrison04:02, 1 March 2012 (bst)

and the torch is Passed--User:Sexualharrison13:02, 6 March 2012

Get shorty!

-- boxy 01:56, 7 March 2012 (BST)

you are a heartless bastard and I hope you choke on that beer. another great year!--User:Sexualharrison11:44, 7 December 2013

Hope you had a happy Hanukkah, or whatever other imaginary bullshit you happen believe in. Cheers

-- boxy 11:40, 8 December 2013 (BST)

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+==2018==
+===Poke poke===
+Hey Boxy, you've hit the four-month inactivity mark, so I'm poking you to say hi and halt the [[A/DM]] procedure. Cheers! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:10, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
-==New Stuff==
+<nowiki>*</nowiki>poke poke* {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
-===Spoilsport===
-:(--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 12:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
-===Crat election===
-I think you forgot to add J3D to the list... Like it or not he is a Sysop and unless i missed something that means he is eligible to stand. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
-:How could I forget ;) (easily... by going off the outdated, undeletions activity check list!). Thanks <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:42 20 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Glad to help before you got a place on the ModConspiracy boards ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
-===Permabanned users===
+Unfortunately, as it's been solidly over a week, we've had to demote you from sysop. Come on back anytime! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
-So it seems that members of the team are [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Amnesty#Maybe_it's_me,but...|open]] to reviewing previous vandal banning cases in order to bring them up to date with [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Reduce_Vandal_Escalations|this policy]]. Does this work for you? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 19:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
-===Thanks===
+He passed by quietly, and in his sleep. Farewell Mr. Box {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 07:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
-[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3AALiMNav&diff=1309583&oldid=1304751 link]
-P.S Why you/any sysops never use irc? Grim used to, haggy and karek do from time to time but that's it. It would be handy...and i'd promise to avoid berating you as much as possible.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
+Oh noes! <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:43, 29 May 2018 (BST)</small>
-:P.P.S If you lurk under some other guise can i haz?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
+:I don't know what to do with this information. Boxy for President! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
+:the prodigal son returns. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
-Gnome can't figure out IRC anymore... --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
+=2017=
-:Gnome should use mibbit, it's uber easy. Unless gnome can't figure it out coz gnome doesn't want to figure it out? :P Also can a/pm haz archive?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
+==March==
+===hey===
+What's up you big homo! How's things --{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
-I'm too easily distracted to irc regularly <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:35 2 November 2008 (BST)</small>
+=2016=
+==January 2016==
+===Policy Withdrawal?===
+Hey Boxy, your [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Signature Policy Revamp|policy proposal]] hasn't been discussed in a couple months. Unless you want to move it to voting I'm going to declare it withdrawn in a few days. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:28, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
+:Sure. I suggest you do something with the current sig policy (even if it's just fucking it right off, and just going by precedent/common sense), because it's worse than useless <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:52, 9 January 2016 (BST)</small>
+::That's not really a bad plan, seeing as how during an extreme circumstance a good sysop would shut it down regardless of the policy (as you did Box, well done). However, barring that, it's not a bad outline to fall back on in non-extreme cases. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
+:::The very least that needs to happen, is that [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Signature_Policy#What_would_be_allowed|this ridiculous section]] needs to go. It basically says that anything not specifically listed, is fine, and it's the first thing that the smart arse, edge-lords quote, when drama-whoring their fucked up signatures. And it's completely wrong. Fucked if I know who put it in there, but they need punching in the reproductive organs, whoever it was <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:08, 11 January 2016 (BST)</small>
+::::Absolutely agree. Well said. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 14:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
-===[[A/D]]===
+=2015=
-Regarding your vote on several user redirect pages i have separated the case into individual cases, if you feel so inclined please recast your vote on each page relevant to how you feel about that particular redirect being kept on the wiki. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
+==October 2015==
+===¿Qué?===
-Gah, why must you do this? If it doesn't change things it doesnt matter. Every user who voted has been informed on their talk page, they'll notice. Secondly, you're wrong, not every user voted for all pages concerned. Thirdly, why were they grouped together in the first place? When they were first moved across by a sysop they should have been split up, sorry i only just got onto that. Fourthly, different votes are valid for different entries, people shouldn't be expected to vote on all of them, it'd be like me putting up [[lol made up page]] and [[user:boxy]] and not letting people vote on them separately. While my action is not backed by any specific policy these cases must be considered separately and to ensure justice is served for them (and everyone has time to recast their votes) the 2 weeks can reset if you'd prefer.
+Was [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Signature_Text_Policy_Revision&curid=190015&diff=2262273&oldid=2262271 my vote invalid?]
-I don't plan on reverting because edit wars are pointless however please do not ignore this, we can discuss here, irc or wherever.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
+While on the topic, is [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FPolicy_Discussion%2FSignature_Text_Policy_Revision&diff=2262269&oldid=2262206 multi-voting no longer a problem?]
-:It changes thing by making a shitload of people (at least one of which says he wont be around for a couple of week) re-cast their votes, even if they don't want to change them. All the delete vote made it clear that they didn't want any of them kept, yet you removed the lot, because voting wasn't going your way. Moar drama, or w00t? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:13 26 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::I've made it pretty clear why i separated them, they should have been seperated from the start. Unfortunately those people voted on the lot, unaware they could be considered separately. I did the next best thing and told them all personally, this doesn't have to be more drama and i think my informing of all concerned parties speaks fairly clearing i wasn't looking for more drama with this. Why said they wouldn't be around for several weeks? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::If you want to split them up, then ''all'' current votes should be placed under each page, and let people know that they can change them for individual pages if they want. Oh, and make the headers different this time <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:22 26 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Fine.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-''"every delete vote was for all pages concerned"''. Prove it. Read's wasn't.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
+Yrs,
-:Reads was a keep vote <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:13 26 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Gah, you're right. Sorry.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-===You forgot one===
+[[User:Revenant|Revenant]] 13:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
-[[Kevan]]. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:36, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+:You had the same bullshit text covering over other people's votes, so yeah, you fuck with the formatting of a page, you lose the right to vote, and get a vandal banning case against you. And yeah, he can't vote for both. They'll be struck <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:26, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
-:That page has long been considered a special exception.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:37, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+::Bugger. [https://www.dropbox.com/s/qphk2s3vi2ldlya/Screenshot%202015-10-10%2000.15.00.png?dl=0 Looked fine when I tested it.] {{psyduck}}<br/> “Lose the right to vote”? Got a rule, policy, or guideline covering that, do ya? [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] 13:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
-::twas said in jest! But yeah i think Kevan should be it's own page with information for people about who Kevan is. It's important people know and his userpage doesn't really make that clear.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:40, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+:::You've already used that bullshit, "get out of jail free" card, on your signature. You know full well that it fucks up the formatting for others, so it's vandalism, which gets reverted on sight <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:38, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+::::That was orders of magnitude out from either of the sigs, but meh, I suppose you’re right: some browsers really don’t seem to handle it at all well and it’s apparently unpredictable. ⇜[[User:Revenant|ɼ̲̪͕ﻉ̣͉̼̼̬͍͇͝۷̘ﻉ͚̗̰͎̹̰ก͔̠̲̱ค̛̗̱̖̭̙̝ก̞̝̣̩Շ͉͉̼͖͉̦]] 13:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
+:::::You love pushing the limit for not other reason than to see what you can get away with. Even with your current sig. And the wiki is overly tolerant of it, from you. You know that you can test that shit in a sandbox somewhere. So next time, do it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:01, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+Just out of curiosity, wasn’t editing people’s signatures on their posts [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2011_05#Lord_K considered vandalism?] [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] 14:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
+:Weren't you a sysop at one stage? You should already know the answer to that question <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:17, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+::<small><sup>(That would be why I provided the link.) <sup>[[User:Revenant|ʇuɐuǝʌǝɹ]]</sup> 14:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)</sup></small>
+[[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2015#October|Thanks for coming]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:58, 9 January 2016 (BST)</small>
-===Hm...===
+==June 2015==
-[[Template:SoftWarning|this]] looks kinda bad-faith-ey in the sense that it's almost impersonating an actual official message. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 14:30, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+===Just Asking For Help===
-:You know where a/vb is, whats the matter? need a sysop to hold your hand?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-::"Kinda bad-faith-ey... almost impersonating"? lol. Anyone who can read will immediately see that it's not official.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 00:55, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-::Possibly to avoid actual punishment for a stupid joke. Not much like Cyberbob but it's a very possible result, so quitcherbitchin'. :P--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-===Quick question===
+Hi there, I can't seem to upload images to the wiki, I'm getting the message : Upload warning, Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/c/cf". Is there any chance you could help with this please? Also, if you're not sure what's happening and nothing can be done, would it be ok if you uploaded the image for me please? It's just for a zombie group, and is here : http://i.imgur.com/KSQTCzg.jpg
-What timezone are you in? Just curious as to why you're the only sysop on (or are the others just staying away from a/vb for now).--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:13, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-:Also I think I might be due for a ban struck. Is this correct? It seems ages since my last vandal case.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:17, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-::I'm Australian, and one escalation has been struck <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:15 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Danke.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 12:17, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-===A/VD===
+Thanks loads if you can help anyway! -- [[User:Xyu888|Xyu888]] 10:44, 6 June 2015 (BST)
-Plz to be striking my escalation? It's been well over a month and I've made 250 edits since then. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:51, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+:Yeah, unfortunately, after the last update, it became impossible to upload or delete images. It's been brought up before. Perhaps look for an image already uploaded, that may suit your needs? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 09:58, 6 June 2015 (BST)</small>
-:Done <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:15 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-===My escalation===
+Ah ok, will try to do that instead then, and thanks for the help. -- [[User:Xyu888|Xyu888]] 11:10, 6 June 2015 (BST)
-I can tell you this, I guarantee you I have no idea how to deal with images, it was the first time I have uploaded  an image that wasn't already resized for me by someone else.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 08:49, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-===A/D===
+===Photos===
-Can you please protect it for the short term. CB shows no desire to let the pages be moved there as policy dictates.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:24, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+You mind easing up on the photos? They're filling up the recent changes page.
+--[[User:Jerran1|Jerran1]] ([[User talk:Jerran1|talk]]) 19:38, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+:Filling up RC with actual edits is how things are supposed to work. ;) Filling up RC with unnecessary edits that could have been handled via previewing is a problem since it makes finding the actual edits more difficult. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+::True, but he could've staggered them or something, instead of filling up the whole RC in less than an hour. --[[User:Jerran1|Jerran1]] ([[User talk:Jerran1|talk]]) 21:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+:::Ehh, better to get it over quickly, that way it leaves RC quickly. Plus, better to get it over when you're in the mood to do it, since otherwise it may not get done at all, ya know? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+::::Wow, what a sweet world we live in where 200 or so edits in a day is filling up RC etc. The whole place still feels super quiet to me, even with Boxy's edits.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+:::::We should get the Rooster back - and disable the bot group for his toys this time. Then the hapless newbs would learn what an active RC '''really''' looks like :P --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 09:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
+:I suggest you increase the number of edits shown on your recent changes page (mine is at 250, and shows plenty of edits below my spam) or you could hide minor edits <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 21:53, 4 June 2015 (BST)</small>
+:Lol {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:34, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
-Yes, please do. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:25, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+==May 2015==
+===Cat Business===
+In two days from now a cat decision is abrewing.<br>The Akule bid has hardly useful opinions on it. Extending it might be the best choice.<br>As for Hagnat, lolno? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 16:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
+: It surprises me it didn't got archived yet for not being a serious bid--<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
+:I'm inclined to consider both of them jokes, given that they were originally "nominated" with vandalism <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 04:31, 14 May 2015 (BST)</small>
+:: Aw c'mon, i am right here. There is no need to 'consider them jokes', when i just outright said they were --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 13:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
+::So let's cycle both as unsuccessful? I think I can agree with that. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 14:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
-How about every one of you pricks stops edit conflicting me, now. And I'll try to sort through your fucking crap <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:26 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+{{*}}cahem* --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
-:Fire away. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:27, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-::lol, you sure like licking boxyanus--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 08:28, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-:A good way to prevent edit conflicts is an hour long ban of the feuding parties (if they don't stop after being told), it gives them time to cool down, and time for you to sort through the mess. Well thats my 2c. - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] '''- [[Signature Race|<span style="font-size:85%; color: #639">08:29/24/10/2008</span>]]'''
-:::Oh so tempting :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:35 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::thats fucking insightful...--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 08:30, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-::Right, because that worked out ''so'' well for the last guy that tried it. Do you remember? Also, I believe the edit warring is over. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:32, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-:::I can't remember that, links please? (looks like the edit warring has just moved pages) - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] '''- [[Signature Race|<span style="font-size:85%; color: #639">08:59/24/10/2008</span>]]'''
-::<big><big><big>YOUR [[2C]]!?!?!??!! </big></big></big> Sorry, but i fucking couldn't resist.... --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:33, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-===Your comments on the Gamestriker4 case===
+==March 2015==
-I just wanted to say that I feel that was a bit out of line. Regardless of your own personal opinions, your position should not be compromised by what you think of one user and his associates. This is no way coming on here to pick a fight, just dropping you a line in hope that you re-read over what you have written and realize that the Vandal banning page is no place for a SysOp to sledge a user like that. Personal opinions are fine, and I could see why you would have them against Jed, but the whole "aLiM nAzI" thing is just not on really.
+===Ross===
+Looks like Ross is still Boss? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
+:Bump for the bump god. Else I will just proceed on the weekend. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
+::No hurry. --[[User:Rosslessness/Little Chris|In Memoriam]]  21:57, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
+:Sure <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 04:09, 28 March 2015 (BST)</small>
-That case had nothing to do with personal ownership of the page, he never claimed that, and as a Sysop you should not immediately jump to those conclusions. You are more or less showing that every case that Jed is involved in, you are going to reduce it to some slanging match over the way they treat pages that they created. Your position requires you to be objective, and you could not even do that when it came to a simple vandal case.
+==February 2015==
+===Gnome===
+[[UDWiki:Administration/Re-Evaluations#A_Helpful_Little_Gnome|Discounting my own (positive) vote as a crat for a minute, I have a hunch that the community wants to retain AHLG.]] Any objections? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
+:Indeed. Gnome does good works <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 08:01, 26 February 2015 (BST)</small>
-Whether or not ALiM or its offspring are your cup of tea is irrelevant, as it means something to some users of this Wiki and you should respect that.
+==January 2015==
+===Bummer===
+I was so sure at the time that ruins added smudged graffiti :/ {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
+:Ah, was that you? Came across it by chance, and took a while for me to get the opportunity to confirm/disprove it :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:07, 28 January 2015 (BST)</small>
+=2014=
-Please, don't take this as some sort of attack, just re-read it and consider what your actually saying next time. It is just that the more I read it, the more I feel as if it is a little out of line, that's all.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 13:49, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+===Log in===
-:lol butthurt --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 13:53, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+Hello there! I just want to inform you that for the past few months new members cannot sign into this wiki. This is the message that keeps coming up.
-::cool story bro--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 13:57, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+"Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information."
-:::i know bra --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 14:16, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+I was hoping that you or any of the admins of this wiki page can look into this and solve the problem. It would help this wiki come back to once how it was. Thank you! --[[User:LuE Colo|LuE Colo]] 20:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
-===User contributions===
+===SZ===
-As I peruse the wiki, I often read the A/VB page to just see who's causing mischief.  I noted that the person known as Woot has been posting nonsense on that page.  So, after taking a look at his or her contributions lately, they are almost exclusively gibberish posted to various talk pages in an obvious effort to be a troll.
+A huge gap, I must say. I'm happy with SZ to retain his buttons, unless something mental happens in the next few days. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  17:46, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
+:The wiki obviously wouldn't function without him <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 00:50, 28 August 2014 (BST)</small>
-Is there a policy that applies to that sort of nonsense?  I wasn't able to find one.  In general I think a bad faith case probably applies to trolls.
+===garden decorations===
+Gnome will up in a few days. The bid looks unanimous. Unless he gets revealed to have been Cornholioo all the time I think we can hand him the buttons back on Thursday. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 16:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
+:<nowiki>*bump*</nowiki>Wednesday. Bid will run out tomorrow. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
+::Sounds good to me :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 05:54, 12 June 2014 (BST)</small>
-your thoughts? --[[User:Stephen Colbert DFA|Stephen Colbert DFA]] 20:04, 21 October 2008 (BST)
+===Bob Moncrief===
-:Insanity is his thing... but generally he is a helpful member of the community, if given a chance, for example, this [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Tomer&diff=prev&oldid=1299328 edit]. Trolling would need to be a whole lot more blatant than WOOT's contributions, which seem to be more playful than anything. But no, there is no trolling policy, and it would be extremely hard to write one, given the totally subjective nature of "what is trolling?" <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:07 22 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+My fellow crat, it seems like there is a notable notion to keep Bob, but also likely that he will be auto-demoted shortly after the start of the world cup. Thoughts? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:58, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
-::<big><big><big><big>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TROLLING!!!</big></big></big></big>--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:42, 22 October 2008 (BST)
+:I don't see any reason to demote him before the automatic, inactivity clause kicks in (shortly). He's a good psysop, when he's around <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:21, 10 May 2014 (BST)</small>
-:::Also; '''''There is no Cabal.'''''--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:04, 22 October 2008 (BST)
+::I'm not comfortable with re-evaluating anyone who doesn't show up at his RE, and hasn't given any response for months. I'd rather cycle it as unsucessful and let him re-apply when - or if - he shows up again on the wiki. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:54, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
-::::I heartily concur.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:22, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+:::OK. I'll demote him then <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:15, 19 May 2014 (BST)</small>
-===Great Fire ambiguity===
+===Question answered===
-Hey as one of the wikizens around here that has a background with ALiM projects that goes back before the purge, we'd greatly appreciate if you went [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration#Cyberbob240_vs._2_Cool|here]] and testified. We are asking for witnesses who can confirm the fact that the page, [[Great Fire of 1912]] was indeed created by and largely moderated by myself and [[User:J3D]]. The task of claiming our creation over the page is complicated by the fact that no history is available to back up our claim due to the history purge. Thanks for you time.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:12, 11 October 2008 (BST)
+Yea... on my talk page... after 5 years. --[[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
-===Colloquialisms===
+=2013=
-It is neutral tone, the nav bar really recognises the people who have put effort into making the page and linking to other relevant projects that might interest readers. cbf repeating, see cyberbobs talk.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:27, 11 October 2008 (BST)
+===Broken Redirect===
-:#The nav bar is [[Template:ALiMNav|ugly]] and intrusive,
+Hey there Boxy, this page showed up on the Broken Redirects-list while I was patrolling: [[User:Boxy/Sandbox/UHUB]]. Please consider putting it up for deletion and help keep the wiki clean ;) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 12:59, 19 June 2013 (BST)
-:#The nav bar is bloody ugly and intrusive, and doesn't fit the overall style of general community pages,
+:I just deleted it as a broken redirect due to a page move, which doesn't need documenting (as it's a [[A/D/S|scheduled deletion]]). Thanks for pointing that out <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 15:13, 21 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-:#If you want to make a [[Guide:Colloquialisms|guide]], and put it in the guide namespace, please try to make it look professional,
-:#I'm getting real sick of the constant spam and cross-promoting being done by the [[2 Cool]] crew to get page hits up on their "''quality projects''".
-:Just because your [[2 Cool|group]] helped make those pages, doesn't mean that you should be allowed to spam adverts to your group page, and other, often totally unrelated, pages you created <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:58 11 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::It's a guide for ''colloquialisms'', by it's very nature it is going to be somewhat unprofessional hence stuff like the picture and the text adds to the character of the page. I think the ALiMnav template is quite beautiful, it got a tad out of hand with the add for the ALiM party but since that is removed it's back to it's old beautiful self. We are thinking of redesigning it to make it more streamlined (wider and not so tall) but yeah, that won't be until november or so. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:08, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-:::You think that a nav bar that is baby shit yellow, over half a page wide, and 11 lines high isn't out of hand at the moment? Please? Your nav bar screams "look at me, look at me!". It's a bloody advert <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 06:21 11 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Would a soft, sky blue suffice?--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 06:24, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-:::::A 1x1x1 one should look good <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 06:26 11 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::I think that may be a little impractical...--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 06:27, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-:::::::We did have a community discussion about the implementation of the navbar, shame you are opposed to democratic process or you could have joined us...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:29, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-hum... the 2 cool navbar is sooo awesome :D i think i am going to copy it and add it to all pages i helped create and improve... lemmesee... the Suburb page, the suburb template, Arbitration, Policy Discussion, the building danger reports, the main page... all these and many others will advertise me, so everybody knows how awesome i am :D --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 13:57, 13 October 2008 (BST)
+===Great Fire banner===
-:lolz <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:07 13 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+Hey Boxy, I was wondering why you removed the ALiM banner from [[Great Fire of 1912]]? There was actually a discussion about the banner's presence when the article was [[UDWiki:Featured Articles/Candidates/Archive/Unsuccessful#Great Fire of 1912|up for FAs]], and a discussion on [[User talk:Nallan#Great Fire|Nallan's talk page]] concluded that the banner should stay. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:40, 2 June 2013 (BST)
-::We already know hagnat, and they have to be pages you (or your group) singled handedly sculpted from nothingness fyi, or else it's not really [[2C]], ya dig? Feel free to borrow our awesome navbar for any purpose though.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:29, 14 October 2008 (BST)
+:They don't own the page, any more than Hagnat owns the [[BIC]], which he created. They can arby me if they still care <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 22:15, 2 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-:::Willfully ignoring his point, by pretending to take his sarcasm at face value, doesn't change the fact that what you are doing with these pages you create is extremely petty. Demanding to be acknowledged, in such an obnoxious way, as the creator is pathetic. Look at the [[MIC]], Hagnat created that from scratch. The closest thing that I see to your garish navbar is a single category linking to [[:Category:Style Up!]].
+::Cool. Just wanted to make sure you acted with awareness of the history of the issue. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:03, 3 June 2013 (BST)
-:::MIC = Classy
+:::He totally hates that banner. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:58, 3 June 2013 (BST)
-:::ALiM = [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FSpeedy_Deletions%2FArchive%2FOctober-2008&diff=1294396&oldid=1294395 Obnoxious] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:17 14 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+::::It's better than [[User_talk:Boxy/Wiki/2008#Colloquialisms|it used to be]], but still doesn't belong on backstory pages <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:21, 4 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-::::There is one key difference here you are willfully ignoring, ALiM etc pages are fictional lulz, MIC etc are informative pages and are not the place for links to other stuff you've created. Unless of course the other stuff you've created is somehow relevant, in which case go for it! What we do is more comparable to groups listing their allies in a section of their page.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:29, 14 October 2008 (BST)
-:::::What? Caiger Mall isn't just as fictional as the great fire? :P
-:::::If you want to claim your pages as fictional, non-informative pages, then perhaps you should keep them totally separate from the "factual" side of the wiki, and not implant links to them into suburb, locations and other informative pages?
-:::::And no, I don't expect you to do that, I just expect you to concede that there is no clear "fictional" "factual" divide, and that you are placing many of those pages into the community section of the wiki, regardless of the clearly humourous intent in a lot of them.
-:::::The [[colloquialisms]] page (the topic under discussion, lolz) is clearly meant to be mostly an informative page, explaining abbreviations, btw. Extremely petty to remove it from the main namespace, and place it in your own private area simply to control it's styling so that you can keep your advertising banner on it.
-:::::Perhaps I'll edit the redirect so that it has all the content, without obnoxious banner and group ownership problems? Good idea, wat? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:42 14 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::and waste kevan's precious server space?? I think not...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:55, 14 October 2008 (BST)
-:::::if pages created by ALiM are ''fictional'' and owned by 2 Cool, then [[Template:Amusing Location|this template]] shouldn't have been added to all locations, as its merely advertising your group. There was a similar issue months ago with Dunell Hills Police Dept. overcategorization of buildings, and it was shot dead by The Dead (lol) and with the support of many sysops (myself included). ALiM should either turn into public domain, with a nice and unobtrusive template on its pages, or have all advertise of the ''group'' removed from building, suburb and other public domain pages. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 14:14, 14 October 2008 (BST)
-===No longer a 'crat===
+===Thanks===
-Just wanted to say thanks for your work as a 'crat. I know that, ostensibly, it's only supposed to be the power to promote a user to sysop status, but in practise, I think that the 'crat badge is treated in and of itself as a symbol of authority, which makes the bearer almost as much (if not more) of a target than the big K himself, as regards the attraction of drama, criticism and requests for difficult judgement calls. I think you dealt with that pressure admirably. (Now, I'll take my tongue out of your arse so that you can sit down.) --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 20:13, 8 October 2008 (BST)
+Thanks for categorizing. It's one of those things I'm not very good at and usually forget to do. Any chance you're planning on attending the Big Bash? We could always use another zombie in the mix. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:07, 2 June 2013 (BST)
+:I actually did wander on over to buttonville, after reading the BB4 page. Will see how it goes <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:41, 2 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-===A/VB===
-Hey, since the new pre-archive system thingy came in the talk pages don't line up properly. The cyberbob stuff needs to be moved to the new talk page. I was gonna do it but i thought maybe it's an issue with the system (i don't fully understand the whole thing) so yeah, thought i'd let you know. If it relies on the first person doing it manually maybe a small instruction should be placed on the page or something? Also i came here coz i had a feeling karek did it, but karek is gone...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:14, 8 October 2008 (BST)
-===Misconduct===
-To make this as fair and equitable as possible, please vote on the decision being rendered [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Final_Ruling|here]]. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:58, 7 October 2008 (BST)
-:Good god, man, learn to wiki <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:08 7 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-Can you please archive the ruled out misconduct cases ? People are starting to troll on grim earlier one. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 12:59, 10 October 2008 (BST)
-===why hello thar===
-sarp --[[User:Cyberbob240|brb, church]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 10:21, 26 September 2008 (BST)
-:Where's ya bin, Bob? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:57 26 September 2008 (BST)</small>
-::school and shit --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 12:44, 26 September 2008 (BST)
-===help===
-I seem to have broken talk:suggestions formatting. I have no idea how and am scared to try fix it in case i make things worse! If you are first on line could you take a look? Thanks...--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:44, 25 September 2008 (BST)
-:I've fixed it for now, by moving a huge chunk of the page to the [[Talk:Suggestions/Overflow1|overflow]] page. That page requires regular cleaning out of old, dead, suggestions discussion to avoid the problem <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 15:02 25 September 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Error?===
-http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=5th_of_November%2F2008&diff=1270525&oldid=1270524
-The page wont show up, and the talk pages hub shows The 5th of November "Original's" talk page. Care to... help? Thanks. --<font face="arial black"><span style="background-color:#000000; border: 1px solid red">[[User:Haliman111|<span style="color:White">/\'''Haliman'''/\</span>]]</span></font><sup> [[User_talk:Haliman111|T]] | [[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]] | [[Project Welcome|W!]] </sup> 21:09, 10 September 2008 (BST)
-:Looks like it only affects a couple of edits you made around the same time. Perhaps you just picked the wrong time, while an upgrade was happening (perhaps the recent deletion of the older diff comparisons)? If it doesn't happen again, and your page is fixed now, I wouldn't worry about it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:46 11 September 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Misunderstood!===
-Hey Boxy, I appologize about getting all pissy at you. I thought you may have deleted my stuff but you only moved it to our group page and made it better for us. Please accept my appology. I jumped to conclusions way too quickly.
-Thanks for the help.
-Also,
-Im confused about how to get the Group link to work on our page. Is there an easier way to do it? Im still learning and Im trying to teach my brother and my cousin .-. [[User:SpacemanSpiffReturns|SpacemanSpiffReturns]] 06:53, August 19, 2008
-:No problem, I'll give you some more tips on your talk page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:43 19 August 2008 (BST)</small>
-===[[A/SD]]===
-Dunno what you did but it fucked up the page. Unclosed <> thingys i guess. Anyway i undid it so you might wanna redo whatever it was you were doing.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:54, 19 August 2008 (BST)
-:Woops, I cut Karek's sig in half when I moved it down. Thanks <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:05 19 August 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Where were you?===
-Simple question. Where were you? So much Drama over the J3D bid. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 11:18, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:Drama? Drama? I saw no such thing...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:38, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:Awww, you love it. Anyway, I lost my internet for a week or so. What else, of great importance, did I miss? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:54 7 August 2008 (BST)</small>
-::The soft warning dead horse is being beaten. Again. And i thought we had it well and truly jellied. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 15:27, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:::You seem to be the only one to use it... we should just warn people on their talk pages, or the AVB talk page... as long as they obviously got the message, they can be referred back to just as well as a pseudo-official A/VB case which only serves to ramp up the drama level <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 16:18 7 August 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Yeah what was the end verdict? Keep 'em off A/VB and if you want to let sysops know you can use other channels (Discussion page was suggested) ?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:02, 8 August 2008 (BST)
-===Suver===
-Finally I post there [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:Suver|here]]. Sorry for the time and thanks for the attention. --[[User:Standzs|Standzs]] 15:02, 31 July 2008.
-:OK, thanks. All that has been moved to the archives already, but it seems that everything worked out without any unwarranted warnings or whatever <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:05 7 August 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Deletions===
-Are these all scheduled deletions, or do they need a request? [[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Unusedimages&limit=250&offset=0]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:54, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:Not if they are over a month old, we normally don't do them regularly so that images don't get dropped immediately before they can get used, they do get purged semi-regularly though.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:58, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-::So the ones from 2006 should just have gone then? Cheers. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:28, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::Whenever a page is deleted, many of the images that were on it appear on that page. They're cleared out every now and then (whenever a sysop decides to go through the list). It's actually better if it's not done all that quickly, because if someone wants their page back once they notice it's gone, the images cant be retrieved if they're deleted as well. Image deletion is permanent <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:05 7 August 2008 (BST)</small>
-==="Unilateral decision"===
-You griped about my "unilateral decision". I dont see how what i did was been any different to what you have been doing for 14 months. Oh, except for me doing it instead of you. Dont bitch and try to start new "tradition" just because theres a faster draw in town. Now, im not adverse to making it so that we have to discuss it first between ourselves in future, but dont go acting as though its always been done, or attacking me because i have merely followed in your glorious unilateral footsteps, because i spoke to Vantar back before Karek was promoted, and there was no cross crat communication on promotions happening back then, and you havent even tried to strike any up prior to now (Or even now, its me doing it). --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 11:46, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-Ok. Heres the dealio. You have until J3D's bid comes due to open a discourse with me about it. You can find me in IRC, the rummers will point you in the right direction for me, as will the people in #XIII. If not ill unilaterally reject J3D's bid on multiple grounds, most notably the fact that he wants to focus on A/VB, and his judgement is appallingly bad, such as not spotting Finis for the troll he is and ignoring him, and instead engaging in [[A/VB#User:J3D|multiple]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_04#User:J3D|acts]] of vandalism against him. Also, his judgement on several cases is pretty poor, such as assuming poor form = bad faith ([[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_05#User:Whitehouse|Whitehouse case in May this year]]), repeated instances of shitting up A/VB in violation of the page guidelines (See how much of his crap is there in the archives). {{Quote|J3D|This comment is relevant to this vandalism report. kekekekeke--J3DSR! 14:46, 21 June 2008 (BST)}} ([[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_06#User:Goolina|Source, early last month as an example]]).
-A [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_06#User:Nallan.2C_User:J3D_and_User:Sexylegsread|Demonstrable history of immaturity]], not to mention attempting to rule on that case in question, which cheese should have soft warned him for at least. In the last couple of months he has become quite the little shit disturber, which is the exact opposite of what he should be doing.<br>Making a mess on A/VB and tossing in how two cents left right and center on the main page instead of the talk, as well as numerous acts of vandalism on his part indicate he has little respect for rules or guidelines except where they serve his interests, and is thus nowhere near appropriate sysopm material. Not now, and most likely not ever, unless he seriously cleans up his act for a very long period of time. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 18:51, 26 July 2008 (BST)
-===Stuff I'm Thinking About===
-I'm seriously contemplating moving barricade plans to group subpages, as it's where they should have been in the first place and will stop all this pointless bickering.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:52, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:Trouble with that solution is that it's usualy a collaborative effort between survivor groups/individuals, rather than each group in an area "owning" their own plan <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:02 24 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-::UBP subpages for the ones that are UBP group "neutral".--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:20, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::I know we ''could'' fit them somewhere, I just don't feel that it is a good thing. They are usually a community resource, and even though they are survivor POV, they should remain as a community page if possible. I don't remember much drama coming from them before the Dunell Hills situation. The occasional dispute about whether a building should be an entry point, or EHB... but meh, that's what arbies is for <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:28 24 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::This whole thing has gone so far out of proportion. I think the [[Santlerville]] model is the best. Survivor orientated cade plan on the page with the larger plan linked to and a zombie plan linked to from the bottom of the page, everyone's happy.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:31, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::::Funny J3d, as a zombie minded player I've always found those plans to be more of an insult than most things on the wiki. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small>
-::::::you talking about the actual cade plans or the zombie 'plans'? I find the zombie ones pretty shitty but if people want them there i figure they should be allowed to, despite the fact that serve no actual purpose...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:37, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::::::The zombie ones. It's just an excuse to avoid addressing the actual issue.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:39, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-::::::::I could see this becoming Wan's a/a case v2.0...the wiki is here to provide information to players, barricade plans (majority enforced ones) do that...while i can understand some people not liking them on the suburb page that should at the very least have a full sized heading explaining the purpose of the cade plan, the major local groups who endorse it and to what scale it is followed with a sizeable link to the actual cade plan because as much as you might not like them they are an important resource for survivor players.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:42, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::That's one of the great ironies about this, they aren't, the other one, of course, is that the same people that use them now will still use them if they're moved off of the suburb pages.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:07, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-::::::::As a self confessed zombie player you aren't really the right person to judge whether or not cade plans are an important survivor resource. While i agree they are largely bullshit i use them when i'm out of town and need to find an ep, you'd be suprised how often the ep the cade plan points to is the one that is in use, regardless of whether or not i feel it is the most logical choice for an entry point to a resource building. Anyway as to your second point - i agree, so move them to a subpage of the suburb ''but'' keep them well linked so people can find them! If a suburb is having a tantrum then you can look into splitting them into 'group cade plans' or whatever but 99% suburbs don't need that.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:01, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::I'm a zombie player, not an idiot. That being said I have frequently participated in the survivor game for quite some time now, it's both how I started playing and how I ended playing, I classify myself as a zombie player not because I'm biased to their side but because I refuse to associate myself with the "survivor" mindset and I prefer the "zombie" metagame. And to refrain from using a segway I've already used; [[Talk:NPOV|I've had this discussion before]] and wasn't the only one who came to the conclusion,  99% of them aren't followed and never have been(I only know of one suburb that I could ever say consistently did).--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small>
-::::It's not "an occasional dispute" this has been going on for over 2 years now and it's because of the absurdly POV nature of them that contributes to the general POV nature of the suburb pages. They're group resources<sub>(I doubt you'd dispute that)</sub> it's idiotic for us to leave them on community pages, especially when they never should have been there in the first place. It's a major nuisance and one we should have solved long ago.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:33, 24 July 2008 (BST)
-:::::I've no problem with them coming off the suburb pages. I'll help with that. But I don't think group sub-pages is the place for them. Suburbname Barricade Plan (as seen on [[:Category:Barricade plans]]) would be the place I'd put them <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:37 24 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Bots===
-[[:Category:Bots]] could probably use classifying as [[Special:Listusers/Bots]] so the wiki regards them as such, although I'm not exactly sure what the differences are/would be beyond the [[Special:Recentchanges]] filter.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:09, 14 July 2008 (BST)
-:I'm pretty sure it does something else, but I can't remember off-hand. It would be useful to have them in that user-group though. Means we can filter out Bot edits on recent changes and keep track of "official" bots. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:40, 14 July 2008 (BST)
-::Is it that bot edits (from bots listed by a crat as such in Listuers) are hidden on recent changes? Perhaps we need a bot policy, so that they are approved before having their user status changed, and also making it clear that they can be banned as soon as seen malfunctioning, or when making non approved edits? They should probably have specific purposes, and if they step outside those bounds, be disabled <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:01 14 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Noticed that my bots had suddenly moved up in the world. Thanks for the addition of that user group. As far as a policy/approval group goes, it seems a bit overkill since there's only a few bots, and the fact I'm the only one making them. I try to include a decent overview of their operations (and indeed a message about temporary bans) on their user pages anyway. These things are also only manually operated, the only way they can destroy the wiki is if I'm maliciously inclined or I somehow screw up to the 10th power. The few errors that have happened in the past get reverted by myself, or some nice wiki user if I miss them. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:41, 14 July 2008 (BST)
-::::Still, it would get everything all clear cut and shiny. Which is always useful for anyone else wanting to make a bot. If we have it in writing, they know what they can and can't do. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 15:31, 15 July 2008 (BST)
-===My retardation.===
-If I want an image in a frame '''and''' resized, any idea how i'd code it?
-On an unrelated note.In relation to this [[The Great Suburb Group Massacre]] do you think 2 weeks is not enough time?   --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:25, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-[[Image:Dupe.jpg|framed|22px|left]]
-<br clear=left>
-No Boxy, that's not resizing, try--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:13, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-[[Image:Dupe.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Sunflowers]]
-<br clear=left>
-Like this? :P <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 17:22 12 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-[[Image:Dupe.jpg|left|thumb|52px|creeps]]
-<br clear=left>
-Cheers chaps, --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:31, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-Thanks for the comments boxy. In answer to your questions.
-*Yes. It will be time consuming, about 6 weeks worth in fact. But i reckon I can probably remove 30% of all groups. After which it will be less stressful, they've just never been properly done before.
-*In future I will make it burb specific, but for now its just the truly inactive groups im purging. Besides who wants to get dragged into a "Were active in this suburb" debate? A hilly suburb on our western border alone would probably implode if i asked that question. I will make the cahnge but not yet.
-*As for the timestamp idea, its possible, Maybe a <nowiki>{{Welcomegroup}}</nowiki> template explaining how things work? But thats for the future, ive only just finished the location pages for vinetown, and i fear my brain will give up...--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:17, 13 July 2008 (BST)
-===Sigh===
-Why must you [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Poulet_Place&diff=1215718&oldid=1209797 ruin everything]!?!?!--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:06, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-:Calling everyone "fucking retards" is not cool on community pages, and the people with the French template on their pages don't have anything to do with the place (it works just as well without the link anyway)... and I like fried chicken :P <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 11:18 12 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-::The fucking retards thing was funny, and we need an [[ELiM]] link on the page somewhere. French thing is meh, and wikipedia clearly states that african american's like fried chicken...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 15:14, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-:::I'll give you fried chicken :P <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 17:03 12 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Link plox.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:36, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-===Wiki===
-Hey Boxy, I noticed that at about 1 AM GMT-6, all the wiki's text got much larger. I've check on other sites and deleted all my cookies, etc., so I know it's not my browser. Any info? -{{User:Vigeous/Sig}} 08:36, 11 July 2008 (BST)
-:Has it cleared itself up? Often closing the browser/puter and restarting fixes these little glitches. Only thing that I can think of is that you may have upped the font size on the page. I use firefox, and occasionally bump the mouse scroll wheel while holding in ctrl. This can change the font size up or down on individual sites while not affecting other web pages in different tabs <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 11:22 12 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Ah, much thanks Boxy! -{{User:Vigeous/Sig}} 20:11, 12 July 2008 (BST)
-===Warning===
-Hey Boxy. :) Can you strike one of my warnings for me? It's been a month and I've made over 250 edits. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:40, 8 July 2008 (BST)
-:Done... fly straight <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 15:34 8 July 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Thank you. :) I'll be good now. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:56, 11 July 2008 (BST)
-===RE: Standzs===
-Hi. I change that  because Standzs is one of my 2 characters and I´m not playing more with it. --[[User:suver|suver]] 15:18, 30 June 2008 (BST)
-===My bad===
-Sorry, in the swapping over of discussion from main page to talk page, I missed your comment you placed after my rant. I have replied to it now, and I honestly look forward to hearing more.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 14:55, 26 June 2008 (BST)
-===RE: Cheap shot===
+===Regarding [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion:20130425_Door_destruction&diff=next&oldid=2072606 this]===
-[[ALiM|;)]] --{{User:Nallan/sig}} 13:57, 26 June 2008 (BST)
+I bet it's [http://blog.xkcd.com/2013/05/15/dictionary-of-numbers/ an extension I installed in Chrome] the other day. It looks like all of the mangled parts were areas that included numbers of some sort, and the extension may have tried to replace them as part of what it does. Thanks for catching that. I wasn't aware of the fact that it could even do something like that. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:54, 21 May 2013 (BST)
-===Aqua Teen Template Force===
+===Sorry===
-{{boxy}}
+Sorry, I forgot. I will try to sign my comments in the future.[[User:Lpha|Lpha]] 23:58, 19 April 2013 (BST)
-You get a Play on Names Template. Why? You really need a reason? Fine. Cause we are the Aqua Teens, make the homeys say ho and the girlies wanna scream. Number one in the hood, G. Enjoy. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 02:58, 26 June 2008 (BST)
-===Imposter/Impersonation type sig===
+===Sorry to interrupt...===
-[[User:Bronz93|Bronz93]] has a sig which makes me believe that the user is trying to impersonate boxy (you) right [[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Suggestions&diff=prev&oldid=1196999| here]] and also [[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Suggestions&diff=prev&oldid=1197419| here]].  Just look at it [[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:Boxy_like_sig.jpg here]].  --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 01:53, 24 June 2008 (BST)
+Could you please look at Sexualharrison's vote as well? In my opinion, "Kill because fuck you" is just as inane as "because, kittens". Thank you? {{unsigned|Lpha|21:55, 10 April 2013}}
-:I don't think he's trying to impersonate me, but I've asked him to remove it anyway. No idea what that's all about <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 07:34 24 June 2008 (BST)</small>
+:Boxy struck Ross' vote because it was unjustified. "Because, kittens" doesn't mean anything and was intentionally random. SH's vote is far from random or meaningless, and was clearly made in response to a discussion you started on his talk page. Besides which, it's common courtesy to take a personal dispute up with that person directly before trying to involve figures of authority. Have you considered simply talking to Harrison yourself? He clearly saw your initial request as an unnecessary one that made no sense, so he took offense. Perhaps if you could explain ''why'' you requested that in the first place, he may be more amenable. Or you may want to take the high ground and simply apologize for any offense that may have been taken, even though it was not your intent to have offended him. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:21, 10 April 2013 (BST)
+::this is going to be good.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>23:43, 10 April 2013 </small>
+Well, I already had a look at it, when you brought it up on Aichon's talk page, and posted this;{{quote|boxy|If you'll notice, he did give a justification in his original vote, to wit: "'''Meh'''", which translates to "this is a bland and uninspiring suggestion, and I could either vote keep or kill, so don't give me any shit about my vote, or it may change".<br />Or were those just the voices in my head? {{wh}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)</small>}}Surely you could have worked out what his justification was for that responce. You read his original vote, you chose to give him shit about it, even after being [[User_talk:Lpha#Editing others' votes|told not to]] worry about [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20130404_Experience_Gain_for_Defiling_Graffiti&action=historysubmit&diff=2065130&oldid=2065128 such trivialities] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:48, 11 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+{{Wah}}--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>22:10, 11 April 2013 </small>
+I still have more keep votes than kill votes, you know. {{unsigned|Lpha}}
+:Are you aware that you need a 2/3 majority to have your suggestion marked as Peer Reviewed? And that you're only one vote away from losing that? Don't count your chickens before they hatch. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:26, 13 April 2013 (BST)
+:I think it's cute that you think I care <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:27, 13 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+::I know right. guess I'll continue to grief you in-game than and you asked for it too.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>07:01, 13 April 2013 </small>
-===Election===
+===Missed Talk Pages===
-Crat election is over. Time to tally the votes, check for socks, and do whatever else needs to be done. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 07:54, 21 June 2008 (BST)
+One of your recent mass deletion requests couldn't be carried out: [[The Shadows of Hope]] still have a group page, so their talk page isn't a scheduled deletion. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:31, 7 April 2013 (BST)
+:Good thing I didn't do them myself, then {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 22:55, 7 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+::Clearly this is a conspiracy, if only Funt hadn't run off in fear of the oligarchy. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:31, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+:::I miss the old Mod Conspiracy days. When are you going to become a crat, so you can boot me out and give me a reason to revive the wild paranoia that lurks just beneath the surface? {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:43, 8 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+::::What happened to that anyway? Even I voted for Karek, and my vote counts as three! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 15:14, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+:::::The same thing that always does, the shadow proclamation. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+::::::You can have my seat. I don't want it and won't seek it, come next election. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+:::::::I'm really indifferent to the whole process. I'm basically just here to kill time. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+::::::::People, Karek, there to kill people. You'll never be a good crat without the murderous urge. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:18, 8 April 2013 (BST)
-There was some UD flooding that I saw on a spray paint in the game yesterday.  It's probably still there.
+===Very Old Character Looking to Play Again===
+Hello, my name is now Mikhail1979, but I used to be MikhailA, director of Lejnair Corp. and what not. It's been six years, but I suddenly have the itch to play again. Unfortuantely, I have since lost my passwords to my wiki account as well at the four characters I had in the game. I'm hoping you or some of the other sysops or even Kevan could help me out with this. I just would like to play again, for old times sake. If you can help, just let me know. I'll even provide necessary info if needed. Thanks!--[[User:Mikhail1979|Mikhail1979]] 22:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
-[[Image:Gnome4BetterWikiFaggots.jpg| LOL]]
+=2012=
---{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 08:02, 21 June 2008 (BST)
+===Damn it===
-:I find it funny how about half the gnome votes are really anti-me votes :D --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 09:58, 21 June 2008 (BST)
+That is all.--[[User:SA|SA]] 09:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
-Congratz, dammit. Ye've thwarted me plans, fer now... also, I don't know who sprayed that message. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:13, 23 June 2008 (BST)
+===Loads of Crat Stuff===
-:Nooo....neither do i... *looks left, looks right, fades into the night*--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:33, 23 June 2008 (BST)
+Anyway, at the end of the week there's going to be another 2 evaluations, and then you're up for crat. So try and be around ok? --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  16:30, 4 October 2012 (BST)
+:Yo, I'll make decisions on both A/RE's tomorrow. Unless you appear. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  16:41, 9 October 2012 (BST)
+::I'm easy, either way, with teh general. He's pretty well inactive, atm, but he tends to be that way, and then comes back, and helps out, without stirring shit up. Rev seems to be doing enough to keep his place <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:03, 10 October 2012 (BST)</small>
+:::I'm with demote. Not even a squeak during the bid, even after talk page mentions. Revs fine though. I'll do some things tonight, once the week is officially up. Welcome back .--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  15:04, 10 October 2012 (BST)
-===Why===
+===Karek A/RE===
-Template groups?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:21, 17 June 2008 (BST)
+Discuss?--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  18:40, 26 September 2012 (BST)
-:So that we can track when groups are added to the list, and perhaps, in the future, set up a system where groups can be removed regularly if not updated... a fringe benefit may be that edit conflicts on the group lists doesn't mean that the whole page needs locking <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:54 17 June 2008 (BST)</small>
+::DISCUSS??--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  18:59, 28 September 2012 (BST)
-::Makes sense, me likey.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:01, 17 June 2008 (BST)
+:::Yeah...I don't envy you guys right now. :-/ {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:49, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+::::Surely thats normal. Also, Im nixing slr bid as he fails loads of criteria and stuff.--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  20:35, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+:::::Anyway, I'll give box until the first, or make a random decision on my own. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  20:46, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+::::::Right. You've got 3 hours, otherwise I'm ruling on my own.--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  16:10, 1 October 2012 (BST)
+::::It's funny cause normally I don't look at the bid page for a week and it goes pretty well. I respond to DDR this time and meh. Either way I'm not put out whatever the decision is and I'm pretty aware of the whys. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:07, 29 September 2012 (BST)
-===A/A===
+===To paraphrase===
-Use my talk page if you wanna talk to me.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:06, 10 June 2008 (BST)
+To save time, in the upcoming Aichon promotion thing, I have no problem with his promotion. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  11:42, 22 August 2012 (BST)
+:Yes, agreed <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:48, 23 August 2012 (BST)</small>
-===Warning===
+Talking of which, there's a re-evaluation due in 6 hours. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  10:42, 1 September 2012 (BST)
-{{quote|boxy|Please do not place humourous suggestions in the main suggestions section on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked.}}
-And lord knows, my life would be cast adrift in purposelessness if that ever happened! Please, somebody hold me! [[User:SporeSore|SporeSore]] 12:30, 6 June 2008 (BST)
-===Banning===
+===This===
-I don't know if I did it correctly, but I don't want it to look like I went power mad. Nemesis Omega came up under the same IP as Mister Game and to me that is a sock puppet account. If I screwed it up, I wanted to come to you first and say, 'hey, did I do this right?'.  I don't dabble in the bannings and floggings and what-nots very often. So if I screw them up I would hope that someone would correct me and not instantly misconduct me. Thanks.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 15:43, 9 June 2008 (BST)
+[[User:Boxy/Sandbox]] Broken Redirects! --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  20:10, 22 June 2012 (BST)
+:... the fuck was I even doing there? lol. Cleared out <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 09:44, 24 June 2012 (BST)</small>
+===Fun===
+yer no fun!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>16:30, 14 June 2012 </small>
+:You should totally take me to arbies {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 22:31, 14 June 2012 (BST)</small>
+::if only i had the time.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>23:45, 14 June 2012 </small>
-===Come *ON*.===
+===Promotions===
-Like you didn't see [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Misconduct_Cases_Currently_Under_Consideration this] coming.--[[User:Jorm|Jorm]] 06:32, 5 June 2008 (BST)
+Just letting you know [[User:Karloth vois|Karloth Vois]]'s [[A/PR#Karloth Vois|promotion bid]] has passed the two week discussion period and is due for bureaucrat review. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:03, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-:Of course I did. Meh <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:51 5 June 2008 (BST)</small>
+:Um...Just so you know, Rev, as per [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Update Promotion Procedure(2)|policy]], new opinions can continue to be added to the bid until the 'crats announce their decision. --[[User:Axe Hack|Axe Hack]] 13:23, 22 May 2012 (BST)
+::'''''<big>NO. REALLY?</big>''''' <!-- Go teach ger grandmother to suck eggs! :P --> {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 14:04, 22 May 2012 (BST)
+:::Theoreticallly, a bid can go on for an infinite amount of tine. Theoretically. --[[User:Axe Hack|Axe Hack]] 14:52, 22 May 2012 (BST)
+::::like my [http://c4nt.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=purg&action=display&thread=492&page=671 counting] thread over on the [[NMC]]?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:34, 22 May 2012 </small>
+:::::Yeah even before that addition to the guidelines i remember one of Wan Yao's bid going for a month at least :/ {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:59, 22 May 2012 (BST)
+::::::Was that the one where he didn't officially accept for nearly 2 weeks, and the bids went from the time they were accepted (and had the required number of vouches)? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)</small>
-===Vandalism===
+So, vois, my answer is "facial hair", and to pre empt future discussions, shortround ''shrugs'' sure. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  17:15, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-If you really want to get all worked up about someone committing real vandalism there's some extremely funky stuff going on on Tselita's talk page that is being ignored.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:00, 5 June 2008 (BST)
+:Shorty should do alright <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)</small>
-:Are you talking about her reworking posts even when made by a sysop in an official manner? Or the ugly color scheme and layout? Sometimes I think we need some sort of Style Policy or at least a Tacky Escalation ladder.- :)-{{User:Nubis/sig}} 02:18, 5 June 2008 (BST)
-::Pfft. I didn't delete his posts - I deleted them, and if he didnt mix 'official sysop' posts with unofficial personal attacks I wouldn't have had to bother to.  Don't want me to delete your posts on my user page? Simple solution - don't post there. Read the rules for my user page on the top. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 16:21, 5 June 2008 (BST)
-::::Listen up, idiot. If you don't want him to post on your page, don't fucking reply to, or start ranting about him when you delete his posts. It's not a complicated concept, even for a chick <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 16:45 5 June 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::While we're at it, why don't you give Gardenator a warning for writing harassing posts on my user page as well 'talking about labias' - Nah that would be fair and unbiased and we all love the Goons, don't we Nubis and Karek? --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 16:24, 5 June 2008 (BST)
+===Axe===
-::::If he edits your post to spell out LABIA I will personally give him a warning for vandalism. Until then saying "dirty" words is not against the rules.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 16:32, 5 June 2008 (BST)
+Obvious re evaluation is obvious. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  18:31, 9 May 2012 (BST)
-::::Piss off to your own talk pages <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 16:45 5 June 2008 (BST)</small>
+:Indeed <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 09:02, 10 May 2012 (BST)</small>
-===Images===
+===Much Love===
-After 17 days of slaving away Rosslessness and I have brought the amount of uncategorized images down to 1390. There are a few images in there that are [[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:PDA_Badge.jpg deleted]] but won't go away (same with the uncategorized pages).  I plan on going through the main categories and cross referencing any images that can go in more than one, but we figured getting all of them in at least one was the main goal. Soon you will be able to remove the link from your sig! Just keeping you updated in case you missed it. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 20:33, 4 June 2008 (BST)
+<3 --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 13:41, 7 May 2012 (BST)
-:That's a lot of work, great stuff. :D --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:38, 4 June 2008 (BST)
+:Agreed. Your sheer awesomeness is unparalleled. --{{:User:Thanatologist/Sig}} 14:00, 7 May 2012 (BST)
-::I'm going to make a medal for those two first chance I get...--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 21:43, 4 June 2008 (BST)
-:::I hope its shaped like a cookie..... 1343 by the way. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:12, 4 June 2008 (BST)
-::::I hope it is all text!  No more images! :P--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 01:42, 5 June 2008 (BST)
-:Yep, nice work, and yeah, I of course noticed your recent changes spamming ;) I would have rather that all the categories were put in first time... but it's such a big job (probably what ground me to a halt on the project) that I'm not complaining <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:20 5 June 2008 (BST)</small>
-:There are also some images that change category with usage. I think going back through them will also help cut down on the dups that are just different sizes because the user may not know how to alter the size in the code or forget what they named it when they uploaded it. And I agree - those survivors love their ribbons! --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 16:47, 5 June 2008 (BST)
-::Ribbons, they've all got to have their own set. Just doesn't fit for me, the flavour of organised military groups just isn't right... but then again, organised zombie hordes are even more out of flavour, so meh <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 16:55 5 June 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::A category for awards/medals would be best i feel. Thats the only major "gap" in the current system. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:42, 5 June 2008 (BST)
-:::It's starting to get there. But the original RRF style flavor was good for the game ''and'' fit a kinda different concept of what a zombie was.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:36, 6 June 2008 (BST)
+===You're awesome===
+[[File:Offmailawn.jpg|git orf mai lawn!|200px|right]]
+For all you do to make this wiki a success, I salute you. Keep doing what you do because you rock at it. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 01:00, 15 April 2012 (BST)
+:I'm far to lazy and inactive to be described as awesome (any more {{tongue}}}. Just a grumpy old man, sitting on his porch, with his shotgun, occasionally shouting, "git orf mai lawn!" <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 01:10, 15 April 2012 (BST)</small>
+::But, if you're who you claim to be, then you must be Clint Eastwood and for that, you're awesome. Seriously, you are. Never doubt. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 01:12, 15 April 2012 (BST)
+:::Not Clint, maybe a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azxFvvUtu40 co-star though] {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:24, 15 April 2012 (BST)</small>
+::::Awwww XD --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 03:28, 15 April 2012 (BST)
-[[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Uncategorizedimages DONE - DONE - DONE!]]  So help me if you sysops let that image list get that long again I will (insert generic threat here and add extra venom!) Now for Part 2. :/ --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 14:39, 7 June 2008 (BST)
+===Mis===
+I assume it's a no? --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  09:30, 8 April 2012 (BST)
+:? --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  08:58, 10 April 2012 (BST)
+::Hurry the fuck up. You are already 5 days late on demoting both Mis and Vapor, closing the VB case, and banning several spambots. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 20:14, 10 April 2012 (BST)
+:::You know what? Gimme another eight months of unused power just to piss this guy off. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:44, 10 April 2012 (BST)
+::::I agree with man, hell, the shitbrain almost makes me want to come back for the sole reason of driving him off the wiki. Not because it's right, but because I could. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 00:08, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+:::::Do you honestly mean that? I mean, you're one of the few sysops that I saw as ''not very'' biased. If you really ment that then I'm quite shocked. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 01:22, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+::::'''Vouch'''. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)</sub>
+:::::'''Vouchx2'''--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>00:59, 11 April 2012 </small>
+::::::Oh! Me too! '''Vouch, Vouch, Vouch, Vouch'''. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:18, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+:::::::Yes. '''Vouch'''. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 13:31, 11 April 2012 (BST)
-Do you have super secret powerful delete powers? We have a list of about 3 images and 4 or so pages that just won't go away. We thought maybe the Crat position had something we didn't.  If not, would Kevan have the ability? I have a list on my talk page titled '''Special Delete'''. Thanks.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 22:08, 13 June 2008 (BST)
+Box, I'll set a weeks deadline on this, or otherwise make my own decision. Grazi. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  12:54, 11 April 2012 (BST)
-:Nope, no idea how to get rid of those pages, they're buggy. Krazy Monkey worked out how to get rid of a few annoying pages like those, but it doesn't work with them, afaik <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:57 14 June 2008 (BST)</small>
+::Does that mean you will demote him tomorrow (when he's a week late), or in a week? [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 13:13, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+:::''Shakes head''. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  13:26, 11 April 2012 (BST)
-===Arby's===
+Sorry about that. Yeah, sure, demote him... or keep him, just to piss off the nazi. Either way is good {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:01, 12 April 2012 (BST)</small>
-We need you to accept J3D or not accept him. We're waiting on you to start this case up. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[MSD]]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 23:33, 2 June 2008 (BST)
+:LMFAO, and you still claim to be unbiased?? [[user:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 12:00, 12 April 2012 (BST)
+::Did I make that claim? I've always maintained a healthy bias against people who just come here to be arseclowns, trolls or vandals <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:52, 12 April 2012 (BST)</small>
-===Res: Blanking Pages===
+===I feel for you===
-:The only pages I request for deletion are the ones that I have personally made with this wiki account or my former one (N dG). In the future I will go about with the proper procedure that you have explained. Thanks. --[[User:Nick nitroz|Nick Nitroz]] 15:16, 28 May 2008 (BST)
+Listen, we gotta talk. You and I both know that I'm actually one of the finest warriors in Malton. Also, there are not many groups stronger than Nazi Zombies either. Perhaps only the RRF is stronger right now. During Operation Naaldloos we have defeated a group of about 250 survivors with less than 4 dozen of men. In the Blitz we're taking on 350 survivors with even less men, now that Fascist Italian has shown his true colors. I don't see how these things are "Nazi propaganda". I'm just stating fact. So leave my pages alone and do something useful. I'm taking warfare on Urban Dead to a whole new level. And that level is called Sitzkrieg. Just a small step for a man, but an enormous step, für das Vaterland. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 16:40, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
+:Lol. My army of level one members with no xp at all created one after another is the strongest group in Malton. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
+::There we go again "yes but you are just a zerger". You don't even know my ingame name. Perhaps I'm not even wearing the tag. I can be everyone in Malton. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 18:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::I'm sorry General, I never claimed you were zerging. I was merely commenting on the make up of the group you associate with. I believe we're talking about Zombie Nazis? I feel I have a right to call several of their members level one players with little or no Xp, created one after another over the course of only a few minutes. In fact I have. [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025312 Here] [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025313 are] [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025316 four] [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025317 examples]. You're getting a little obsessed that everyone thinks you're a zerger. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::Ok so someone has multiple accounts within Nazi Zombies. How is that a problem? It was funny how at the time Corn and "Zyckde" both had multiple accounts within their group. Corn was then constantly called "zerger" and "PK-er" (both ingame as on the wiki), though what Zyckde did was considered ok. That is what propaganda is. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::if you're noting propagandas affectiveness on the weak then why are you so goddamn shit at it, you spout more of it than you do vowels {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::::Learn English and learn to read. Not propaganda from my side. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 14:07, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::you spend more time having tantrums about jews than you spend time breathing. If you actually legitimately believe that you don't use any sort of progaganda and that if one thinks you do ''he'' needs to learn english then you are literally the most retarded person who's ever been on this wiki. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::bitch got owned? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 01:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:When you create a number of pages like that, claiming to be glossary terms, but then proceed to fill the pages with group specific images and references to your own group and it's greatness, it becomes clear that they are nothing more than group propaganda/trolling. And they'll be moved <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 21:48, 17 March 2012 (BST)</small>
+::Yeah, and if other (non-Aryan) pages are made like [[Jihad tactics]] including fitting images then it's all ok suddenly. What you just said occurs on the wiki all the time. It really isn't anything specific for Nazi Zombies. Just stop being jealous that someone invented a tactic you wasn't able to come up with and go outside to find some friends. People wouldn't bully you all the time and you wouldnt be such a cunt. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::if you legit think that jihad tactics is the same kettle of fish as the shitskrieg page where it matters then you are beyond help. i have no problem with either but just saying {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::Lol. Why was corn called a zerger when he was zerging. That's an amazing question. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  12:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::Corn wasn't zerging, corn had multiple accounts in the same group. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::::Ah, I see how that could lead to us having differing opinions on this. Which alts are his? I could probably get some of them off the zerg list, if they aren't in the same burb. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  16:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::Damn, I was looking for this quote for ages. Completely pointless now. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  20:41, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+:::How does the page that you referenced deal with my criticism of your pages being little more than group propaganda? I see no group links at all on [[Jihad tactics|that page]]. Perhaps you were expecting me to have other objections, and just argued against that strawman? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:41, 18 March 2012 (BST)</small>
+::::even more so he is using a [[Talk:Jihad_tactics|joke]] tactic as his example. pure genuis --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:49, 18 March 2012 </small>
+:::::Jihad tactics shows images of Jihadists. The pinata page has links to Maltonian Inquisition or however you spell the name. What you call 'propaganda' (I call it ''fact'', or in case of images ''decoration'') is all over the wiki. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
-===Wah?===
+===Bureaucrat Elections===
-Any thought on whats passing for [[News]] today? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:57, 28 May 2008 (BST)
+Hey, Boxy, I've started the [[A/BP|Bureaucrat election]] for your seat. I hope you don't mind, but it was a day overdue, so I just did the leg work. Feel free to correct anything I've done wrong. :P --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 11:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
-:It looks like the implementation of a suggestion that someone made here a while ago. Perhaps only on the [[suggestions talk page]] though. Hope repairing long ruined buildings gets an XP bonus <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:02 28 May 2008 (BST)</small>
+:The system is designed so that anyone can start the process, so that's fine and dandy <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:57, 16 March 2012 (BST)</small>
-::Im just glad that work on Monroeville seems a bit more pointfull now. Wonder what else Kevan has got planned for MV?--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:30, 28 May 2008 (BST)
+::Just so you know, Box-man, you can keep your seat.  This is not some crazy plan to get into a close race with Boxy for the seat just to withdraw at the very last minute to ensure all my votes don't count, leaving absolutely no time for anyone who voted for me to change their vote, thus ensuring Boxy pretty much wins by default.  Nope, definitely not some crazy plan like that.  I'm just not that interested right now, but it is nice to see who is willing to trust me with such a role. --[[User:Axe Hack|Axe Hack]] 11:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
-===Help meh Boxy!!===
+===Remember me?===
-Why isn't [[Penny Heights Police Department|this]] redirect working? I want it to redirect to [[PHPD]] like you suggested, but it won't. Did I break the wiki?--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:51, 28 May 2008 (BST)
+Because I remember you and will be very sad if you've forgotten me. --[[User:Mikalos209|<span style="color:#990000">Mika</span>]][[User_Talk:Mikalos209|<span style="color:#000099">los</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikalos209|<span style="color:#009900">209</span>]] 02:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
-:Don't worry boxington, i helped the noob and thus saved the day. No sweat. Although perhaps a [[sandpit]] in repayment?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:04, 28 May 2008 (BST)
-::wtf you did nothing! NOTHING! Boxeh I still need you! Jed was the last one to touch the page so it's not my fault if the wiki is fucked.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 12:09, 28 May 2008 (BST)
-:::The redirect works fine. If it isnt working for you, clear your cache. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 12:15, 28 May 2008 (BST)
-::::Works for me too... should have worked with your earlier versions as well... probably what Grim said <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:27 28 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-And you wouldn't have to worried about removing your own [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=next&oldid=1164228 deletion request], no one is going to VB you for that, but moving it down to the resent actions section would be a better idea than simply wiping it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:36 28 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-:yeah nick you r-tard.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:38, 28 May 2008 (BST)
-::Ah got it. Works now. Is there anything teh cache can't do? I submit that there is not.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 12:48, 28 May 2008 (BST)
-:::Well it's not [[ALiM|LOL]], that's for sure.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:25, 29 May 2008 (BST)
-===Minor edit===
+===yer sliping===
-Can you discuss w/ the other sysops about changing the error on the bureaucrat policy? Specifically, it says: "This policy does not effect any account that Kevan may use as a wiki admin account;" effect should be changed to affect.
+(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 03:54 . . (+93) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Slambuts: ) YOINK!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:08, 28 February 2012 (bst)</small>
---[[User:Larspcus2|Larspcus2]] 00:19, 20 May 2008 (BST)
+:Just because I didn't change the edit summary, doesn't mean I didn't [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Bots&diff=prev&oldid=1984506 yoink] it, but good, regardless {{tongue}}. Getting bored yet, tilting at windmills? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:19, 28 February 2012 (BST)</small> {{like|156}}
-:I don't think we need to bother anyone else for something so minor. Thanks, that should have it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 02:55 20 May 2008 (BST)</small>
+::i've been playing this game for over 5 years. you tell me. also Don Quixote can kiss my arse!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:48, 28 February 2012 (bst)</small>
+[[File:Come.jpg|240px]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 19:35, 28 February 2012 (BST)</small>
-===:O===
+:[[File:Nou.jpg|240px]]--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>19:45, 28 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-[[User:Boxy|Someone]] [[User talk:Penny Black|used to]] have a templated sig! What turned you against 'em?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:00, 19 May 2008 (BST)
+::(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 04:40 . . (+91) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Scamboxs: ) --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:19, 29 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-:Did you stuff the second link up? Couldn't find a sig of mine there, but yeah, I used one [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Boxy/sig a few times], just don't like them. 1) I figure the sig you use on a page should stay there instead of being changed later, 2) They contribute to stuffing pages up (like the [[suggestions talk page]] occasionally) 3) meh <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:00 20 May 2008 (BST)</small>
+:::Congrats, after [[#November_2011|3 months]] of trying, you finally got one through! Time to stop, and be bask in the greatness of your glorious victory? {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 00:30, 1 March 2012 (BST)</small>
-::Ah yeah, i did. I had 2 user talks open both called Penny _____, there was that one and another. Anyway it did have a sig of yours on it. Templated sigs do make edit pages a lot cleaner though...also have you seen the awesome new ALiM navbar?? It totally rox!--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:54, 20 May 2008 (BST)
+::::i will only accept unconditional surrender--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>04:02, 1 March 2012 (bst)</small>
+and the torch is  [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FVandal_Banning%2FBots&action=historysubmit&diff=1985689&oldid=1985684 Passed]--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:02, 6 March 2012 </small>
-===Jamie's Headerpage templates===
+:Get shorty! {{Grr}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 01:56, 7 March 2012 (BST)</small>
-Thank you Boxy for moving them to the right place, I did not know what name to put the under. By the way; what did you think of them, not very good are they.--[[User:Jamie Cantwell3|<span style="color: DARKRED">Jamie Cantwel3</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Jamie Cantwell3|<span style="color: DARKGREEN">Talk</span></sup>]]''All glory to the Hypnotoad!'' 04:25, 18 May 2008 (BST)
+you are a heartless bastard and I hope you choke on that beer. another great year!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>11:44, 7 December 2013 </small>
-:I've seen worse ;) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:34 18 May 2008 (BST)</small>
+:Hope you had a happy Hanukkah, or whatever other imaginary bullshit you happen believe in. Cheers [[File:Emot-munch.gif]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 11:40, 8 December 2013 (BST)</small>
-Sorry I stuffed up [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ADepression&diff=1146706&oldid=1146608 this one on you]. But you could have fixed it by simply putting a backslash (/) in the last noinclude tag. The noinclude tags (<nowiki><noinclude>xxxx</noinclude></nowiki>) mean that whatever you put between the tags shows up on the page, but when the template is used on another page (like your user page) that text doesn't get included (hence noinclude) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:41 18 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-Ok I will remember that next time thanks.--[[User:Jamie Cantwell3|<span style="color: DARKRED">Jamie Cantwel3</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Jamie Cantwell3|<span style="color: DARKGREEN">Talk</span></sup>]]''All glory to the Hypnotoad!'' 23:13, 18 May 2008 (BST)
-===Page Moving===
-I figured I'd ask you this, considering you're the only Sysop I really know.
-[[The_Imperium]] have several pages that I think should really be sub pages, such as the [[Imperial_Guard]] and [[Imperial_Inquisition]]. They also have their own page for [[Pk]] reporting, which I also think should be a sub page.
-Thanks in advance for any help.
---{{User:Ashley Valentine/sig}} 16:50, 14 May 2008 (BST)
-:Oh gawd... so many pages... so little point <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:21 15 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Why was the page moved at the request of someone else?  There's other groups with similar setup such as the DEM.--{{User: Garviel Loken/Sig}}22:28, 15 May 2008 (BST)
-:::Those other groups where already like that long before I got here, and fixing them up is a huge job. Makes my head hurt just thinking about it. Basically, all group sub pages should be in that format. It makes it much easier for people to know who's pages they are (important to make it clear that non members should not edit them), especially if the main group page is later deleted (not all that likely in your case), and it means that multiple groups can have similarly named pages without fighting about who owns the "Imperial Guard" (for example) page. I know it may seem like mindless bureaucracy to you, but it really does help if everyone sticks to this sort of system as much as possible, as new members copy how other established groups do thing <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 08:12 16 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-===[[A/VD]]===
-For some bizarre reason i'm not trusted to edit that page so instead i'm coming here to tell you to remove a [ from Karek's entry, minor i know but still it shouldn't be there.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:25, 12 May 2008 (BST)
-:Fixed it, thanks <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:12 12 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-===[[Talk:Suggestions]]===
-Templated sigs don't seem to be showing up on this page. Is it like that for you? Any clues as to cause/solution?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:05, 7 May 2008 (BST)
-::Yeah. Solution ==> Don't use templated sigs :P <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:45 7 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Is there an easy way to do that other than copy and pasting from a word document every time you need to sign? --{{User:Pdeq/sig}} 09:51, 7 May 2008 (BST)
-::::If your sig coding isn't too long, just put it in the nickname box (in your preferences) instead of a link to your sig page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:55 7 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-:My understanding is when the page gets too big templates start breaking, so stuff needs to get moved to archives.  Or something like that. --{{User:Pdeq/sig}} 08:07, 7 May 2008 (BST)
-::Yeah, that's it basically. There is a limit on the number of templates that can be displayed on any page (in the hundreds I think). Once it reaches the limit, all templates on the page are broken, not just the sig templates. The talk suggestions page requires regular cleaning out <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:45 7 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::oh yeah i forgot you hated them...should have asked someone else. That page shouldn't be archived, i think if it breaks 'em again i'll just adopt the policy of if its no longer being discussed it can be deleted...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:21, 7 May 2008 (BST)
-::::There is actually a policy for that somewhere.  Something about 5 days with no discussion, and you put a warning.  [[User:Karek|Karek]] used to do a lot of deleting of old stuff, so he's pretty knowledgable about (1) how to remove old discussions and (2) how to move suggestion discussion that have now been put up for voting. --{{User:Pdeq/sig}} 21:24, 7 May 2008 (BST)
-:::There's no limit to number of template calls, there is however a file size limit so only so many kilobytes of data can be called. And it's two days without discussion for a deletion notice and 7 for removal.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:17, 8 May 2008 (BST)
-===[[ELiM]]===
-I thought you'd like to know! :) :) :)--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 03:49, 3 May 2008 (BST)
-:Hahaha, I see you've sanitised the ALiM talk page... can't have none of that nasty dissent now can we >:) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:00 7 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-::twas me, and feel free to come back and dissent more, just don't expect the conversation to linger when you've cleared off. ;) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:25, 9 May 2008 (BST)
-:::Whatever you say, finis <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 16:54 9 May 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::hahahahahahahahahhahahahaha FUCK YOU! --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:03, 10 May 2008 (BST)
-Click [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:Amusing_Locations_in_Malton/Archive#.22The_Boxy_Incident.22 here] if you ever want to relive the good 'ol days ;) --{{User:Nallan/sig}} 09:29, 26 May 2008 (BST)
-===Old Policies===
-I still actually haven't had time to figure out the policy cycling stuffs, otherwise I'd get to this. Anyway, the following policy discussions have been up for like a month. [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Inappropriate usernames|Inappropriate usernames]], [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Bureaucrat Election Tweak|Bureaucrat Election Tweak]], and [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/NPOV|NPOV]].--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:22, 26 April 2008 (BST)
-:They should be archived, I believe. The limit is two weeks, I think. Although most people don't archive/withdraw it at that point because it is counterproductive if there is still discussion. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:02, 26 April 2008 (BST)
-::Yeah, they're archived in withdrawn policies (unless there's still active, productive discussion going on) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 00:03 27 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-===jejejeje===
-lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol--[[User:Shakey60|Shakey60]] 16:03, 23 April 2008 (BST)
-===Akule's bid===
-Akule's promotion bid should have been closed four days ago. And axe appears to have declined his promotion bid. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 04:53, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-:Gee, I wonder why? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 04:54, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-===Something I thought you should see===
-[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAxe_Hack&diff=1112386&oldid=1112355 This], which seems pretty close to vandalism actually considering it's a stones throw away from him making accounts under different IPs and voting for himself. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:28, 18 April 2008 (BST)
-:You want a screenshot of the IM? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:29, 18 April 2008 (BST)
-:Never mind...I provided the screenshot on Vantar's talk. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:42, 18 April 2008 (BST)
-::It's idiocy. It won't help the bid, just like the goon meatpubbitry wont hinder it.
-:::I didn't know that till 15 minutes ago, now did I? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:06, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-::::Bit late now, isn't it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:36 19 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::Isn't that actually in the text on that very page?--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:37, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::On [[A/BP]] only, I believe. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:39, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::That would make no sense, [[A/BP]] ''is'' a vote.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:40, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::You mean meatpuppetry? That's what I mean. ''Sockpuppetry is considered vandalism.'' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:42, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::But I didn't use a sockpuppet, now did I? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:44, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::It says on [[A/PM]], "'''''This is not a vote'''. It is instead merely a request for comments from the wiki community''", and I would expect anyone wanting to become a sysop to know that it wasn't a vote. It's not helped by people putting up tallies though <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:44 19 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::Now I have always thought it was a vote.  At least, that was my interpretation of that statement. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:54, 19 April 2008 (BST)
-===Recent Rulings in Impersonation Vandal Cases===
-You may want to read down to a couple of cases on the vandal banning admin page where similar cases have been brought up. Hagnat and you see this issue in two very different lights. He ruled not vandalism where you have ruled vandalism. Not that it matters but I agree with you. No matter what it says at the top of a page, a signed post has to be protected to ensure integrity of the wiki. --{{User:Showcase/sig}} 18:02, 18 April 2008 (BST)
-:He ruled not vandalism in a case where a goon signed unattributed posts as his own, I ruled vandalism where a few goons claimed that stuff they had written themselves were actually written by another user. There is a big difference between the two... but they'd better not push the point on Hagnat's ruling... it's not that far away from being bad faith <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 18:30 18 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Ah. I see. This is why you are the sysop and I am not :) Thanks for the clarification. --{{User:Showcase/sig}} 20:31, 18 April 2008 (BST)
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-===Help===
-I just added a new suggestion for voting and clicked save not preview.... now I can't sort out the vote section. If you are still online help would be much appreciated. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:I hope that's what you wanted <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 11:24 21 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Exactly what I needed... thanks. I probably would have got there eventually but not before spamming recent changes with about 300 revisions and annoying the hell out of you and whoever else was watching. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::Good oh. It could have been a real nightmare trying to get it fixed while getting edit conflicted by voters :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 11:46 21 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Yeah I was worried about that, especially as some asshat would probably have tried to crucify me for editing a suggestion after it went up for voting :) Anyway, thanks again and I promise to try not to do it again.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 12:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-===Request for moving to Removed Suggestions===
-I edited my own suggestion to put a clarification in, didn't realize it was not allowed when there are votes already in place. I apologize for my error.
-Link to suggestion: [[Suggestion:20080208_Emergency_first_aid_kits_in_buildings]] --[[User:Aeon17x|Aeon17x]] 12:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
-:I rolled your edit back before anyone voted, so there's no harm done. If you want to withdraw it for revision you can. I would suggest putting it on the [[suggestions talk page]] before taking it back to voting however <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:54 8 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Instructions on withdrawing suggestions can be found [[Suggestions:Cycling_Instructions#Revised|here]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:57 8 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Cool, thanks for the instructions. I put it back into suggestion discussion for now while I work the kinks. --[[User:Aeon17x|Aeon17x]] 13:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
-===Ruins===
-You said:
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-# Change - make it so that this only applies from the street, not inside, otherwise there is no way to know if you are going to end up outside when you try to freerun -- boxy talk • i 07:03 20 January 2008 (BST)
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-I have two responses. The derisive and the sensible. Since i am in a generous mood for typing today, i shall present both:
-#Derisive: OH EM GEE! IT COSTS 1 EXTRA AP TO CROSS A RUIN! RUIN IS RUINING TEH GAME WIHT RUINZ!!!
-#Sensible: If you get knocked out of teh free running system by a stealth ruin, you have an entry point ''right there'' with which to re-enter the system. It makes travel a little more hazardous for humans? Good! My Brain rotted Pker finds life far, far too easy despite shooting people up in MALLS. Humans had an easy enough time finding places to hide and entry points after ransack was introduced, and to be fair, this would serve as a nice hazard to the human mobility advantage. It would also encourage people to be a little more coordinated and fix ruins faster. As for seeing ruins from inside a building: How on earth could people see a ruin from inside a neighbouringt building when they cant even see ruin from outside? Are all buildings now equipped with X-ray windows? It would be a nice hazard that would *gasp* present a risk to human survival. Much better than the only risk being the tiny risk of being killed by a zombie or pker. The only way for a sensible human to die at the moment is bad luck. A brain rot Pker thriving in a suburb with semi regular breakins illustrates this quite ably. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 08:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
-:Hope you don't mind, but I moved this to the [[Suggestion_talk:20080120_make_ruins_not_visible_from_other_blocks#Ruins|suggestion talk page]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:10 20 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Bang sticks===
-Assault rifle had 1 keep o kills and 5 spam, not o keep, 1 kill and 5 spam, at least give the author credit for voting for himself!--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
-:lol, yep, my mistake <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:36 5 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Yet more evidence i'm in love with '''recent changes'''--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::You jumped the gun by four hours. they have to stay up 6 hours before removal is possible. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 13:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::Hmmm, it looks like you're right, but [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Cycling_Instructions&diff=prev&oldid=901498 Funt changed the rules]... I thought extremely obvious spams could be removed early <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:56 5 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::But then the old [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestions&oldid=646542#Removing_Suggestions page] didn't include that bit. I dunno, anyway, I'll leave it 6 hours <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:01 5 January 2008 (BST)</small>
 ==Moderation==
 '''[[User talk:Boxy/Moderation|Moderation talk archive]]'''
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-===Junk that is Upsetting Me===
-I'm not going to lie...
-[[:Image:MartyisCrazy.jpg]]
-[[:Image:ActionMarty.jpg]] <---- needs more [http://www.floridasrealestatemarketplace.com/xSites/Agents/mariorodriguez/Content/UploadedFiles/MARIOS%20PICTURE%20BY%20ZAMIRA.jpg MSPaint hair]. [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 22:40, 12 April 2008 (BST)
-[[:Image:Martywtf.gif]]
-[[Image:Advicetips.jpg]]
-[[:Image:Atruefriend.jpg]]
-[[:Image:Martyposter.jpg]]
-[[:Image:Headertwo.jpg]]
-[[Image:Advicetips2.jpg]]
-This stuff does bother me, them making fun of me I could care less... but they are going after my family now... Dude, I'm really unhappy about this...
-It is not fair that they should be able to find me and my family and I have no idea who these people are... Please get rid of this garbage... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 23:04, 13 April 2008 (BST)
-:How are they going after your family? And how is deleting that stopping them from going after your family? --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[MSD]] [[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 23:54, 13 April 2008 (BST)
-::That is my father's image... and as I recall... http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Copyrights they are violating a HUGE edict... and come on... this is a personal attack... it is gross public spectacle at it's worst... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 00:24, 14 April 2008 (BST)
-:::I'm man enough to admit I did lol at 'Action Marty'... but they are seriously taking it too far, you guys need to police this before it goes any further... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 00:39, 14 April 2008 (BST)
-::::What image is your fathers? The one looking like Colonel Sanders or the Action Figure guy? Unless you mean the cartoon they keep spoofing. And they're breaking the copyright rules. They are not reproducing it but instead creating entirely new images. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[MSD]] [[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 02:30, 14 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::who looks older? lol... and they are... I never gave them permission to use my image for that... those images are mine... and one of them comes from another website... I own all of those images... they need my permission and they sure as hell aren't getting it... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 02:44, 14 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::If you uploaded a picture of an orange and I put that orange in another picture with other fruits I found on the internets I could do that. But if I just recopied your image and uploaded it then I'd be stealing. I've listened to Akule and his copyright rants to know the ins and outs of this. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[MSD]] [[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 02:51, 14 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::Okay, then it doesn't violate wiki policy copyright wise... but you must see this for what it is... come on, they are not being subtle about what they are doing; this violates every common decency, it is something that should not be tolerated regardless of whether it violates 'a rule in the books'... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 05:55, 14 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::I'm pretty sure creators have rights over derivative works of their creations as well as exact copies. See [http://www.ucl.ac.uk/learningtechnology/legal/copyright/faq.html#modify here], [http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/managing/copyright_faq.html here] (scroll to FAQ 9), [http://www.ihaveawebsite-nowwhat.co.uk/copyright-facts-and-myths.htm here] (scroll to "If I make up my own stories, based on a similar work, my new work belongs to me."), and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works#History here] (first paragraph of history section). Still, I'd advise against bringing the copyright policy into this - in practice it's not enforced, and there's been a lot of drama around it in the past.  --[[User:Toejam|Toejam]] 02:47, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::Technically, it could fall under parody, but can easily be considered libel (slander with written works), however I doubt you will be able to do much in the courts. With the current way we are handling the policy on [[UDWiki:Copyrights|copyrights]] is to cite the information before we draft a letter to eventually get permission. Did you create the original yourself, or did you modify the drawn image for yourself? Your best bet would be to talk about vandal banning for the attacks or at the very least put forth an arbitration against them to prevent them from putting up and keeping these types of images. Unfortunately that will just get them to put them up elsewhere and just add more fuel to the fire. Wiki-wise a case could be argued for impersonation as you are not stating the things the pictures are saying, but I'd just go with the fact that they are making a lot of bad faith edits through picture harassment. Either way you should have a good case for an arbitration against them. If they don't appear before the arbitration you can get a ruling made against them by default, so they will have to bring their case forth. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:50, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::I'm not convinced you actually know what libel is, so I'd suggest not throwing that word around until you get a real handle on it. Clearly the images are parodying Marty's in-game persona. We're hopefully all adults here, so if you are unable to withstand a bit of ridicule without screaming libel of all things then maybe a more child-friendly game would be more appropriate. By the way Marty, love the new template. Oh no, I mean I'll be pressing for a libel/bad faith/vandal case '''''immediately''''' of course --[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 09:27, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-{{SADEL}}
-:::::::::::I'd explain it to you, but I have come to find that people typically ignore large blocks of text, so I see no reason to do so. After looking over your post, I do think you could benefit from going [http://www.rif.org/ here]. The point is that Marty would prefer that you stop harassing him, thus my advice to take it to vandalism or arbitration, not to make an actual case in a court of law against you and your fellow "goons". --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:40, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::::The point is the images they used as a source are my property, I'm asking that they be removed from the wiki. My rights over control of those images do not end just because the images were edited and uploaded under a different name... They may not be violating wiki policy but they are violating my rights laid forth in the US Copyright Act of 1976 by editing and reposting. I'm request that these images be permanently removed from the wiki. As for arbitration, I am not going to have a big shoutfest with them for their enjoyment. No permission was given to them to modify or upload those images, they need to be removed...
-::::::::::::'''US Copyright Act'''
-::::::::::::Derivative Works:
-::::::::::::http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#103
-:::::::::::::See Subsections (a) and (b)
-::::::::::::Protections:
-::::::::::::http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#106a
-:::::::::::::See Subsection (a), Line (3)
-::::::::::::--[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 23:29, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::::::There is certainly [[Talk:Battle_of_the_Bear_Pit#Images_Deleted|precedence]] for having the images outright deleted. I'd find an active sysop and request that they speedy delete those images following [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=prev&oldid=498922 this precedent] then. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:37, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::::::That's all mighty impressive but sadly has nothing to do with this. With regards the US Copyright Act, please read up on Fair Use, specifically Parody and Fair Use. Nice little starter right here: [http://www.publaw.com/parody.html]. Akule, if you're going to pretend to have some kind of knowledge on this subject then fair enough, but please try not to lead people astray. Hell there wouldn't even be a case if we were profiting from the images and you should know that. I'm kind of sad that the first reaction to someone making fun of '''''your fictional zombie fighting character''''' is to resort to vague legalese, what a world. --[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 00:07, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::: I am not a lawyer but since MartyBanks uploaded [[:Image:Martyfires pistol.jpg|this image]] doesn't that mean permission to use the image on the wiki was granted? Because to claim otherwise would involve saying you did not give yourself permission to upload the image. The only options I can see for you right now are arbitration or ignore it. Also I thought the wiki was under British jurisdiction so why are we citing American laws? (and why is this all on boxy's talk page?)- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:16, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::::: Disgraceful. This is no place for common sense man, this is about high-drama and lofty legal minds! I bet you haven't even read a Grisham novel lately have you? NO. Just as I thought. The key to success? Surprise witnesses, each more surprising than the last. The defense rests.--[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 00:24, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::Let me get this straight... Marty is claiming ownership of his own father's likeness?  Futhermore, he's claiming an image stored on SeaHouse Realty, Inc.'s website as his own property? [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 00:22, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::::::Unfortunately it does. So, you'd like to argue copyright law then? Not a problem. First read the [[Copyright]] page, the [[International Copyright]] page, and of course the [[UDWiki_talk:Moderation/Policy_Discussion/Citerion_13_-_Speedy_Deletion_of_Copyrighted_Images#Let.27s_Learn_Copyright_Law| Let's Learn Copyright Law lesson]] before you proceed. Now, because we are talking about the ''UD wiki'' and not '''a court of law''', you'll want to ignore all of those pages and just pay attention to precedent on the ''UD wiki'' for author requests of deletion of copyrighted images. Aside from the fact that the images are clearly bad faith edits and thus are subject to deletion and you are subject to vandal banning with [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_01#Faerie_Queen precedent here], he is the principle author of said images and can request that subsequent images be deleted as not only is there is a very few instances of allowance for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing fair dealing] in the UK but there is [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=prev&oldid=498922 precedent] for this sort of thing on the ''UD wiki''. Oh, and yes, we need to know UK law as the UD wiki is hosted in the UK, not in the US. Thanks for dropping by though. ''':)''' --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:27, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::::::: Please Akule, this is just getting embarrassing. I shan't bother to chuck a dozen links into this paragraph but please just imagine I have, as apparently linking to something adds +2 relevancy to the linkee, even when wrong. I was going to ask you what you were linking to those two "precedent" cases for when neither have anything to do with this case, one simply parrotting everything someone said and the other being someone having their original artwork removed from the wiki, but then I came to the realisation that trying to talk to you was dramatically removing my will to live. Please tell me more about the precedents that have been set in a dozen other unrelated cases, it's utterly fascinating to me and will eventually uncover the essential truth of the matter at hand, much to your credit. All my love, --[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 00:41, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::::::::Yeah, that's basically the response I expected. Hence why I didn't bother to explain libel to you. Let me [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=531374 make it easier]. One link to follow. Read up on harassment. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:44, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::::::::::Harassment? They're parody images of a ficitonal character and they're on our talk page. This thing was dead in the water from the word go. LET'S NEVER FIGHT AGAIN. --[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 00:51, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::::::::::::::::Oh? [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Dunell_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1103995 Are] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Dunell_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1098165 they]? AwwWww. I couldn't fight with you. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:56, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-So in other words, copypasta them + host elsewhere regardless. >.> --[http://sites.gizoogle.com/index2.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.urbandead.com%2Findex.php%2FUser%3AKarloth_vois Karloth Vois] <sup>[http://sites.gizoogle.com/index2.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.urbandead.com%2Findex.php%2FRed_Rum RR]</sup> 00:38, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-:That would get by the whole copyright quagmire, yes. Just not the harassment. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:44, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::Akule, please explain libel to me and how it pertains to images that actually are the property of SeaHouse Realty, Inc. when Marty Banks isn't an legal representative of said company? [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 01:06, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-:::You'll notice how I asked if he owned the images, right? If he doesn't own the original images it's not going to be a copyright issue, as he didn't own the original images to begin with and thus would have no claim to them in UK law. Now, on to your actual question. [http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/defamation.html Here]'s a good explanation of libel. The reason why I said it would be hard to do in a court of law is the fact that he'd have a hard time proving that he actually '''had''' damages. That doesn't mean that some lawyers wouldn't take the case. Anything for money, right? ;) Of course, you're just focusing on the few snippets of what I said that you should ''not''' be focusing on. What you should be focusing on is to see if any of the images constitute harassment of marty, hence the link to the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=531374 precedent]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:14, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-::::Ahahahaha all that build up and you just linked to an article I could have just Googled anyway?  You lazy turd.
-::::Why the fuck should I "focus" on something that is completely meritless?  If we're going to play that game, then I hereby demand that this be taken down because allowing it anywhere on the net instantly gives AIDS to 250,000 schoolchildren or something:
-{{SADEL}} [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 04:32, 16 April 2008 (BST)
-===Akule's promotion bid===
-His bid will be ending soon, and considering the wide ranging opinions expressed I thought some discussion would be good before we made the decision. He has shown consistent understanding of the rules and demonstrated interest in maintaining the wiki the copyright image categorization but historically he has been near the center of a lot of drama, which is not the most desirable trait for an op.
-What are your thoughts? - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:24, 13 April 2008 (BST)
-:Yeah, he knows the rules, but seems overly keen to use the knowledge to annoy rather than help, as per the copyright drama and other examples of input to a/vb or the like... <small>besides, the promotion bid was started on April 1, by Anime ;)</small> <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:35 13 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-::In the past, I have been condescending in pointing out rules that were not followed or used against people unfairly, because I was speaking with sysops; whom I felt should have epitomized the rules that they maintained. The copyright fight was one such instance, but as pointed out, I was able to get that topic addressed to a point where people actually ''cared'' one way or another and then my biggest opponent during that time, Hagnat, and I worked out a compromise worked out a way that would benefit everyone. You'll note that since then I haven't put up one image for deletion, rather if I find a copyrighted image, I put in the proper copyright information for the citation and categorize it correctly. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:40, 15 April 2008 (BST)
-===OI===
-[[:Category:Dunell Hills Military Zone|You missed a spot]], jackass. Do the whole job or don't do it at all. {{User:Katthew/Sig}} 11:23, 9 April 2008 (BST)
-===A/VB===
-[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FVandal_Banning&diff=1096659&oldid=1096654 How Comforting].--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:38, 6 April 2008 (BST)
-===Hmm===
-How did this get screwed up? Anyway, [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:Jordan_Salafack|This]] still needs doing and I'd very much dislike having to do it myself considering I was the one who reported him.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 18:33, 1 April 2008 (BST)
-:I'll have a look <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 00:00 2 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-::It's a bit of a mess, but I've gotta run <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 00:15 2 April 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::As long as it's done. It was the last thing in march that needed closing, I think, so I can archive it later today after double checking now.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:53, 2 April 2008 (BST)
 ==Editing teh Wiki==
 '''[[User talk:Boxy/Wiki|Editing talk archive]]''':
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-===err...===
-any chance you can help [[User_talk:J3D#Help|this guy]] out? Thanks.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:55, 3 April 2008 (BST)
-===hey boxy===
-hey boxy
-i know you are way busy modign the wiki and you dont have time for
-looking for stuff but sence u have seen just about every wiki page evermade here i was wondering if you have seen a wiki page with the little picture saying
-"this user has visited ackland mall and the templates like that
-i was going to add some to my page
-well if you can drop a comment on my talk page thanks
-[[User:tomer|tomer]] mall tour 07/X:00
-===Thanks...sorta.===
-Thanks for fixing my grammar/spelling errors on the Cockburn page. However i don't think its really your place to remove the link to 73, if he wanted to he could have. I thought you would be happy that real history was being incorporated into the location's history, apparently not.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
-===Quick Question===
-Just a couple questions regarding Wiki ethics; Would it be considered improper to edit the spelling on someones user page even if the user is not an obvious newb? And what about changing the wording to produce correct grammar or to provide clarity? -[[User:Ablesentinel|AbSent]] 16:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
-:I wouldn't, unless I was pretty sure they wouldn't mind. Ask them on their talk page first is the best bet <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 21:53 29 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-=== Question ===
-Is it okay to delete irrelevant discussion on discussion pages?   Example: there's stuff on the Building Types discussion page that's just no longer relevant.  Okay to delete it, you think? --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 18:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
-:Sure, if it's really irrelevant, I guess. I'd make a section at the bottom of the page, and label it for deletion, and give it a week or two there. After that, if no-one has seen fit to save it to an archive, delete it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:13 16 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Hey.===
-That is not my character. Please ask before creating pages that are not necessary. Thank you. {{unsigned|Nny7229|21:07, February 5, 2008}}
-:Well it was a character page in the wrong namespace, you created it, so it got moved to your page. Sorry if it wasn't yours, but we get a heap of pages in the wrong place like that, and waiting for a reply from every one of their authors would mean that many of them would never get put right <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 22:00 5 February 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Thank you===
-Thank you Boxy, for the help with my chef page.--[[User:Jamie Cantwell3|Jamie Cantwell3]] 06:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
-===Interference Links===
-Please ''stop'' adding them, read the page's talk page, a page with that purpose already exists and is where all current data on the matter is and has been going since the day of the update. It's also in the footnote at the bottom of the page. The [[Interference]] page is pretty much nothing but unneeded content spam.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
-:I think a page is needed on this development <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 07:46 29 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::That isn't it. If you want a page that is about the flavor and what is meant by interference fix that one up, but don't use it as a link to how interference effects building barricades as that is misleading. As such it doesn't belong on the [[barricades]] page until it has content itself, or at the very least relevance to the [[barricades]] page, such as is the case with the stub [[door]].--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::Well people arn't going to be able to provide the information in one place unless there's a link to it so they can find it, and know that their information is needed. (I can't update it, because I'm not playing a survivor in a siege, but I'd love to know what the effect is (both flavour and percentages wise). Would you be happy to have the link in the footnote area? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 07:58 29 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::A link in the footnote area is more than fine. You should be able to fit it in nicely as part of Note 3.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::Thanks for taking up this cause Boxy. I was in exactly that situation (wanting to help coalesce knowledge on the subject without having any term or handle for the idea). That's the intent of the Interference page, and I'm astounded Karek doesn't see that. [[User:CloseCall|CloseCall]] 01:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::I didn't see it because of how you were choosing to link to it, it was misleading.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
-===Club Head===
-So you want me to get rid of the Fenis thing? Is that the only problem you have with the edit? Because i find mods to be temperamental beings and don't want to resubmit only to be banned for not clearing up the unspoken issue.--[[User:J3D|Jed]] 12:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-My bad...--[[User:J3D|Jed]] 12:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-:The rest of your "contribution" to the page is pathetically unfunny, but '''I''' really couldn't give a shite. If others make a case against it's inclusion I may though. Why don't you go do something productive with your time <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:10 17 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Hey, hey, hey...each to his own. Until then I'll stick with what i wrote minus Fenis.--[[User:J3D|Jed]] 12:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::Oh and you're more then welcome to make suggestions re:doing something productive with my time.--[[User:J3D|Jed]] 12:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::Go kill Finis <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:29 17 January 2008 (BST)</small>
 ==General Talk==
 '''[[User talk:Boxy/Archive|General talk archive]]''':
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-===Weapon's Proficiency Bull===
-[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=%3Frise&diff=969874&oldid=969720 This] is horrible. So is the Guide you linked, no real neutrality what so ever. Specifically the weapons efficiency, it's wrong for one. Without data on the find rates that has been updated you can not claim that they are bad enough, and many figures show that they may well not be, to balance guns to claws. Not to mention that guns ammo searching isn't something that you count, that's just foolishness. If ammo is counted in the efficiency of the weapons for survivors barricades need counting for zombies, that's balanced statistics, instead you count the cost for pre-combat for one side and not the other. BTW, if barricades were counted you'd see how horrible zombie claws vs guns are, if pre-combat actions aren't counted you'll find that shotguns run at about 6.5 for their efficiency, not the measly 1.5 they are rated at in that Guide. PS, your guide purports a 1.7<sub>(without Flak)</sub> and is out of date by about 2 years, [[Search_Odds#Gun_Store|more recent research]] shows that search rates have nearly doubled, some are claiming it has '''''tripled'''''.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-:If I'm coming off as a bit of an ass it's because I get really tired of some of the survivor crap spread around the wiki that masks the reality of the game and smudges the numbers to hide the true state of the AP imbalance.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-:The out of date data is why I used 20AP... it's the number of AP a fireaxe takes to knock down a maxed zombie, isn't it? Not the most efficient, maxed out survivor weapon, but somewhere near it. Bringing barricades into it will severely complicate the issue, give that you'd have to factor in barricade construction on the survivor side... the article is just comparing ?rising with knockdown costs. I know the game is unbalanced towards survivors... but I think it's mainly because of survivor numbers... people want to play survivors to be the hero and because there's more options <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:31 7 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::I'd have to say that the game encourages that behavior in the way the introduction and pretty much every single update has been done. Survivors frequently get all of the flavor and what flavor zombies to get they have to deal with their horrible weapons accuracy, move rates, and barricades to get to, the only zombie flavor which doesn't deal with those things is zombie speech. As for barricade build costs, no, you don't, just don't count ammo find rates which are frequently variable. As for using the Axe instead of the guns which have a far higher hit rate and even with ammo find rates incorrectly included<sub>(I'd have no problem with it's inclusion if the standard was the most data possible but in this case it obviously isn't what they chose to do)</sub> that also horribly smudges the issue as guns, with the newer search data, and even the older search data, save a large and significant amount of AP. That ignored, carry shotguns and needles, CR non-rotters, Shotgun rotters, suddenly it's not 20 AP to clear but with search rates you'll average about 15, less than a headshot, less than what it takes to kill yourself, and less than what it takes for another zombie to kill you. Shotguns are only slightly less efficient than CRing, because they don't have the stacked on other costs but, with the near search rates shotguns could easily be 5 or more AP lower than the 20 you listed based off of the Axe combat stats.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::It's complicated, I know, but even the most efficient weapon in the game (the pistol), in the hands of a maxed out survivor, ''and ignoring searching altogether'', takes more than the 12AP you claimed against a maxed out zombie. Now if you want to expand on the complexity of the decision to ?rise depending on the zombies level, and likelyhood of getting headshot, feel free, but I think 12 is too low <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:52 7 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::BTW, I agree wholeheartedly about the way the game is geared towards survivor updates <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:53 7 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Actually Boxy, [http://www.herbsofwar.com/test/combatstats.html it takes only 10.], 13 if you count Flak Jackets., 8 if the the zombie doesn't have body building, 11 if they don't have body building and do have a Flak jacket. That doesn't include reloading for obvious reasons.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::::I'm sorry, I edited in the pistol clarification while you were searching for the data, I expect. It says 16AP (ignoring searching) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:59 7 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::Pistols get about 16 AP, Shotguns are actually far better.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::If you factor in reload AP Pistols become better over time, add in search AP to the equation and pistols, I'd assume, are juggernauts because of the finding partially loaded guns. But like I said, if you're gonna do that you need to include everything that could be considered costs to get to combat in the equations, that includes barricades.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::But the whole point of ?rise is that you're already past the barricades... that's what makes it so efficient. All you have to do is ?rise <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:07 7 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::Limitations and rewards, ?rise can only be done if you have AP so headshots actually lower the amount of damage ?risers can do. Barricades don't matter because this is about survivor AP expenditure but as combat is about immediate reward you don't factor in searches or AP spent on rebuilding cades, when PKers Pk survivors you don't factor in search rates for either side because that's pre-combat and even if you did we don't have the actual numbers so we can't do it, at least not with any semblance of correctness.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
-:I've placed something on the ?rise talk page, I think it needs a whole new section to discuss when, and when it is not a viable tactic (if you don't mind I'll move this discussion there too) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:33 8 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-::I'm fine with that, it's a tactic page, essentially, so more information on when to use it as opposed to the survivor view of how much is sucks to deal with could always help.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::Good-o <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:03 8 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-On a related note, do you find attacking the barricades from inside an efficient tactic in sieges? If I find myself inside, alone, and I haven't got enough AP left to take anyone out completely (seems pointless wounding someone, only to have them healed before anyone else gets in, FAKs are more efficient than any weapon), I will often knock a few levels off the barricades. Do you know how much more effective indoor barricade attacks are? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:03 8 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-:All the numbers returned from it say it's horribly low, 5% at most, although I doubt it's more than maybe 2.5%, still, if it's HB^ it's actually a good idea to do it if you can't do anything else with your AP as the build rates are generally really low. I'd say it's less effective than attacking survivors but I'd be wrong FAKs and their 60% find rates take care of that. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
-::It must be pretty hard to collect that data. I might head down to the [[Quartly Library]], and see if they're willing to help with some data gathering... well, once Giddings falls, anyway <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:27 8 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-=== Visit this site ===
-Pleaseee... look at this [http://malton-nw.myminicity.com/ site] :P
-You are going to like it :)
---{{User:Savant 231 A/sig}} 15:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
-:Excitement plus <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 23:48 1 January 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Signature Race===
-Hm...you're currently the #2 user...while I'm #3...Hmmmm....+1? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
-:Boxy! Delete his comment!--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
-::How exactly does that count the links, is it +1 for each instance of linking or for each page with that link?--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
-:::Each page with a link.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
-::Heh, I would if I was actually going for the win ;) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|I]]</sup> 01:17 6 December 2007 (BST)</small>
-:::...and now he's number 3. --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 21:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
-::::At that time, you meant 4, right?  Ah wells...I'm back to 3...Boxy!  Only about 20-40 more edits till I pass you...I forgot which it was...I feel like going for the big challenge...Passing Matt... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
-===Anarchy===
-It's good to ''be'' back. Real life is great and all, but, y'know.--{{User:Cap'n Silly/Sig}} 06:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
-:Yeah, you get hooked on it just like that! :)--{{User:Cap'n Silly/Sig}} 06:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
-===Sued===
-<nowiki>*</nowiki>Hands you a button labeled 'Sue'. Here you go. Now we know your real name! {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 02:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-:I like your sig now :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 02:59 10 November 2007 (BST)</small>
-::Thank you kindly, uh, sir or ma'am, I'm sorry for not knowing which. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 03:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-::I dont. It bold the timestamp. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 03:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::Heh, I'm working on that problem. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 03:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-::::Boxeeee is a box, stoopid peoples lolerz!11--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::Well I like it a whole lot better than yours, Haggie :P Oh, and BTW, arn't you avoiding a 1 month ban from the [[A/VB]] archives? Shouldn't I ban you for an extra week? >:) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 03:09 10 November 2007 (BST)</small>
-::::XD Hoisted by your own petard, Hagnat. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 03:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-::::Oops... caught me. Guess i better ban myself again now that whatever i was trying to prove is already being discussed and half-way solved. And it's not like my uni project is could to complete itself if i continue to edit this wiki. See you guys in a few more days than... off to ban myself again i go. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 03:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::::Damn... I was looking forward to bringing down the banhammer too! But good luck with the uni stuff :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 03:22 10 November 2007 (BST)</small>
-::::::You want to have the honors ? go ahead :) just make it so i get unbanned after november 24rd (my deadline to deliver that baby) --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 03:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-::::::Oh so tempting... but I'd better not :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 03:33 10 November 2007 (BST)</small>
-By the way, you know how you always have to put <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> in front of a * at the beginning of a phrase? I created a template, [[Template:*]], to prevent all that unncecessary typing. Just add <nowiki>{{*}}</nowiki> and you're able to move on. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 03:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
-:Yeah, I saw that... will just have to remember it's there now <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 03:17 10 November 2007 (BST)</small>
-::{{*}}Tries out the template* --{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 03:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

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