Category talk:Historical Groups

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups. Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are Yea and Nay. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)

Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

The Grove

The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgewood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^

Voting Rules

Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms: # comments ~~~~ or # ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Yes

1. Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. Rib15 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15
2. Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)
3. Yeah, maybe. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)
4. You talked me into it. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)
5. Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. Asheets 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)
6. Yes - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. —Aichon— 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)
7. The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --keepster33 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)
8. weak yes i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)
9. Super Weak Yes - I have never heard of The Grove, but I haven't been up to the NW corner for anything either. Certainly sounds like a group worthy of the historical section on the Judgewood suburb page, but I leave it to others to make a case for them being historical beyond that. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 07:20, 14 October 2010 (BST)
10. Never knew them personally but they seem like they were a good bunch. Weeks MCDU 01:58, 17 October 2010 (BST)

No

1. I say, who are you? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)
2. This is beyond a joke. 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)
3. I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)
4. -- LEMON #1 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)
5. Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --Papa Moloch 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. —Aichon— 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so. --keepster33 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)

   Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). Keepster33: No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.Rib15 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)

6. No, you've got to be kidding.-Fallout11 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)
7. Who? - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --VVV ^RPMBG 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)

   Lots of groups, like the Dribbling Beavers, dedicate themselves to defending a single suburb.Rib15 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)

8. Who? - --Kooks 23:10, 13 October 2010 (BST)
9. An old group is not always a historical one.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 17:41, 14 October 2010 (BST)

   If you carry that reasoning forward, then most museums should throw out large portions of their collections. After all, they're only old kitchen items...

10. Is this a joke? --Radio 03:31, 17 October 2010 (BST)
11. You glance at a man with black rimmed glasses. Before you ask him for approval, he says "No." --Noted Literature critic, Mead Sheaffer. 05:20, 17 October 2010 (BST)
12. ...Hasn't Judgewood been predominantly ruined until fairly recently? My alt used to run through there last year and never iced one of these fellas. Criminally Insane ^{Talk | LoD} 05:24, 20 October 2010 (BST)

    Of course you didn't see them. They're disbanded. That's why they're being considered for historical status.Rib15 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)

The Penny Heights OGs

Voting Rules

Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms: # comments ~~~~ or # ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Yes

they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. Zombeater

No timestamp vote struck. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)

1. Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -MHSstaff 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)
2. Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. Zombeater 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)

   I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-MHSstaff 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)

   Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)

3. Yes, but the page needs to be expanded - The Penny Heights OGs were one of the first PKer groups to step forward and say: "Hey, we're a PKer group.", which at that time, was not common. Most groups of that time were still pretending to be pro-survivor, so they enjoy the plausible deniability of being a "survivor group", but could get away with PKing random people. Unfortunately, it seems that their low numbers, a schism in the group (note the leadership change), and the open declaration of being a PKer group, hastened their demise. Despite being a small group, you can see that they yellowed Penny Heights, took over two hospitals, and even took a stand with DARIS against the CoL. Also, if you look at the history for the page, Max Grivas was advocating that they be nominated for Historical Groups back in 2007. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 22:09, 19 October 2010 (BST)

No

1. Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)
2. What a joke. --Thadeous Oakley 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)
3. I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)
4. It's enough that the United Territories Federation is historical. Plus Who? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)
5. No thanks. 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)
6. Not heard if them, + they are small--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)
7. Who. The. Fuck? --Papa Moloch 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)
8. To quote the Bard, "Who?" —Aichon— 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)
9. I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. Asheets 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)
10. -- LEMON #1 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)
11. It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)
12. Spam - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --VVV ^RPMBG 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)
13. Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --keepster33 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)
14. poop as everybody else.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)
15. I've never heard of them either... --Colette Hart 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)
16. Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a NARP after the beep. Beep. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)
17. You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --Shatari 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)
18. Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--Mead 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)
19. Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --Dr summeroff 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)

    The blob has eyes?? >.> -- LEMON #1 23:39, 19 October 2010 (BST)

20. I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --Justin 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)
21. Who?--VinnyMendoza 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)
22. Kilroy8675309 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)
23. no, no, no... no --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)
24. No, never heard of 'em.. --KujiMuji 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)
25. Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --Citric union 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)
26. Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-Fallout11 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)
27. Narp. I'm guessing this vote was the biggest impact they ever had on UD. --Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 17:33, 14 October 2010 (BST)
28. Did they ever exist to begin with? Weeks MCDU 23:34, 16 October 2010 (BST)

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