User talk:Janus Abernathy

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Hi

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Chancelwood

Please keep suburb news NPOV. It is not a place to discuss strategy, cheer for a group, or request for help. I have removed the POV part of your news. --Pdeq^Talk* 22:47, 23 April 2008 (BST)

Currently 49 outside Haslock NT, there are plenty of buildings still standing, the suburb isn't even moderately infested with zombies yet, so I've set back the danger level to moderate. It will most likely increase to Dangerous over the next short time, but it certainly isn't anywhere near very dangerous so try not to be so reactionary ;) --TouchingVirus 17:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I completely understand the dangerous danger level having reviewed the burb, it's cool :) --TouchingVirus 19:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Eric bessette

Janus im so very glad to hear this, we need to start to rebuild and recruit. im in the process now. West Grayside is flling apart, im attempting to hold it together.--Eric bessette 02:49, 6 September 2008 (BST)

Unfortunatly those 3 have become inactive, and we are not on the recruiting page because we dont have ten members. once we get ten active members we will be on there--Eric bessette 04:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Bhuwannabe

Janus I will go out and look for safehouses in neighbouring Suburbs wanna help? Im doing Kempsterbank As soon as i get full AP *TOMORROW*--bhuwannabe 01:55, 9 October 2008 (BST)

Bhuwannabe, I answered you in the AZS page :) -Janus Abernathy 9 Oct, 15.16 (UTC+2)

Forensic_hoffman

what!? im not on your allies list--Forensic hoffman 23:41, 21 October 2008 (BST)

My bad. Now you're in :) --Janus Abernathy 12:38, 22 October 2008 (BST)

thanks miss abernathy--Forensic hoffman 19:59, 22 October 2008 (BST)

btw! from what my story says, what kind of person do you think i am?--Forensic hoffman 22:09, 22 October 2008 (BST)

Uhm.. a man who's loyal to his friends and allies? ;) --Janus Abernathy 13:58, 23 October 2008 (BST)

Thanks!

Are you travelling NE? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

If you find a survivor you can get lurching gait for free. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Gab

Hey man. I saw you had some trouble in West Grayside. I'm currently in the area myself, and I had trouble finding a safehouse in the suburb nextdoor - watch your backs guys! Peace —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gabcd86 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 7 November 2008.

Soldier UDW

11/09/08: Intresting idea about the alliance, in fact the alliance will have a name of its own: The Zombie Emergency Management Agency. It will be a club with multiple groups and I will think both of the AZS and the SZES will become famous. I will give you my answer soon, all I need is the Approval of Eric Bessette.

-- 23:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

11/14/08: I don't know what you are talking about of a forum. I haven't made any forums. So I don't even know what is Masterme120.

-- 21:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

11/21/08: Janus, I saw what you wrote in the Urban Dead Pranks article. You don't have to worry about it. I know its weird and it looks bad, but it just needs to be worked on. If you have any prank ideas feel free to write it into the article. You're covered if you editted it wrong.

-- 22:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

12/03/08: Oh, I haven't checked my Talk Page lately. Okay, I will add him on the List.

-- 01:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

12/12/08: Janus, why did the Anti-zombie squad left the Z.E.M.A. Alliance? What did I do to cause this? Is the PK behind this? Who was involved in the breakup? I need all of these questions answered soon okay.

Oh I don't know what is going on. Someone tried telling me of what happened but I barely understand. So can you tried telling me why the AZS lefted Z.E.M.A. Please?

-- 23:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

12/13/08: Everyone does this all the time, what do you expect this is a harsh world. You can't ecscape the fact that everyone has secrets, secrets that make them look bad. Like my behavior, thats one of them. Keep this in mind that everyone you know has secrets that make them look bad and that includes Groups and Organizations. The PK is a pker group and the Arbitrator Iscarat is rude and is looking for trouble, Pestolence and Saromu are player killers but are also Systems Operators and they use their job for an advantage to delete are Articles if they are screwed or something. Like I used to have a member on my side called Ryan Shuck, he's a trusted fellow but after a few months he became a player killer. There is no decend group that you could depend on, even if there is they will just go insane its just a matter of time.

For your group members, administrators, even me could go insane like Ryan. Its just a matter of time like I told you twice all ready. Never let that happen, this is why I barely trust people because they go psycho at some point in time or they turn on me. Could happen to you, me and anyone else. Relationships don't last that long, probably with Eric or your fellow group members and me and my group members. It does not have to do with behavior or noobishness, it's about who pulls the trigger. Like you leaving the alliance, that you just pull the trigger and something bad is going to happen to you, your group, my group, probably all of us. You leave a group because of someones behavior could cost you and them as well. Once that happens, it could cause Player Killing, Insulting, or something else much worse. If you don't come back to us sooner or later, someone could try to talk you or Eric into taking us out but not knowing you or Eric is taking yourselves out. The Philosphone Knights are capable of doing it, Pestolence is capable of doing it, and someone you heavily trust such as Eric is capable of doing it. Don't let all of this shit get to you (probably it will), if it does contact me.

P.S.: Anyone you know and trust could turn on you like you did to me and also sorry if I overwelmed you with this post.

P.S.S.: Oh, sorry about everything and I mean everything whatsover that gone over November and December. Really I mean it.

-- 15:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Let's clear up a few things:

• The Philosophe Knights are a pro survivor group that believes in educating the stupid, execution is an acceptable method of education.
• My position as a volunteer arbitrator has no bearing on my wiki actions.
• Pestolence and Saromu are not sysops.
• You could certainly find some wonderful allies in the game. If you're in the south you might look up The Randoms.
• This guy is not only stupid and unable to separate characters from players, but he's also clearly paranoid.
• You gained more respect from the game's community by removing yourself from this idiot's orbit than you ever would have through staying with him.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

• 12/13/08: Leaving the alliance ain't going to solve whats going to happen. You're too late at that but everything could change in a blink of an eye. You can't prevent trouble, because once you prevented trouble its still going to come back to your doorstep after awhile and it could take weeks, months, or years.

The Wiki and the game is always at a same level, don't argue about this. If it ain't on the same level, the wiki will probably won't even exist. Levels dosen't matter, its a huge inconvinence. And Urban Dead is just a game, and in the game or the wiki trouble will come crashing into you even if you didn't cause it. Like we are getting into an arguement because you left the group, that you cause bigger problems! And we both keep this up, someone could go insane me, you, or both. Because you leaving the group have just triggered a chain of events, thats trouble there. I won't even like to keep arguing with you and you won't even want to keep arguing with me. Keep this in mind, I' am not aware of my behavior and you or anyone in your group have just caused more problems because of this. Never let my or anyones bad behavior get in your way or your face because it will cause alot of problems. Best to get used to everyone bad behavior whatever you like it or not, I do the same. Sometimes they aren't even aware of this and mentioning it to them will hurt them really bad or just pisses them off and they will hunt you down and put an end to you.

Remember: Trouble is coming, and I' am warning you about it so it could be avoided but even when its avoided it gonna come back to bite us on the ass. Boy, that will hurt alot. I sugess we put the past behind us and we try to solve the causes, if not anyone could go insane. Remember that AZS leaving the alliance is causing a big mistake and solving it is that simple. I' am trying myself already.

Never let bring people out of our groups into this. We will cause problems with them.

How about you like it if Eric turned on you no matter what reason. Think about it, because turning on someone would causes a similar situtation much like this or civil war between group alliances. I suguess we both solve are problems between us and put it behind us. The trigger has been pulled and we can stop that bullet before it could cause more problems.

Keep this in mind, how would you feel if someome turned against you because of your behavior or what you cause. Lets solve are problems soon before we continue arguing of who caused it. Probably its because of me doing this or that and whatever shit I created to cause all this I apologiesed. If you don't respect all of this in the last two sections is like you don't respect yourself. I learned that the hard way.

-- 16:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

12/13/08: You don't understand, you must know that arguing or not we could still tear each other apart. All because your group leaving Z.E.M.A. about my behavior have caused this arguement. If your group haven't left Z.E.M.A. in the first place we woulden't be in this arguement. Your group have made things a lot worse for all of us, I told you never let anyones attitude get in the way. Live with it, trouble is still going to come. Don't get outsiders involved to this, someone even apologied for getting involved. Sooner or later Janus, we could all pay the price.

So lets just cool it, give it a couple of weeks. On December 27, I will contact you on how to solve what happen. Don't argue with me, if you are born and living in the United Kingdom I have one thing that you don't. I will give you a hint, look on my User Page and there's a template that has a USA flag on it. Tell me what do you think.

Remember, don't mention anything about the AZS resignation of Z.E.M.A. for two weeks to anybody and I mean anybody and I will do the same. We all keep are cool, we can't go insane all of a sudden. So next time you contact me it must not be about the AZS leaving Z.E.M.A. until the next new moon which its on 12/27/08. Got it?

-- 17:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

12/13/08: Oh now I see whats going on! The Anti-zombie squad have left Z.E.M.A. because this jackass said so right!?! Well I' am not an idiot. You and AZS shoulden't even lisened to him! He is cruel, rude, and an asshole. I told you this is a harsh world, and this has happened. I have found out that f#$%&% is behind all of this. He made you caused all this, a few people warned him about reporting him to the administration. What do you think I putted him on the Psycho List for? Its not his work, its because he's a player killer or death cultist or something. Tell this guy to back off because I told him to back off. He hates anti-player killers and he is using you to tear both of our groups apart. You don't really understand do you? He's a psychopath!, People tried to report about him because of his behavior, and his behavior is a lot worse than mine. He haved messed up your mind so tell him to Screw Off next time he contacts you. Okay?

-- 20:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Sonny Corleone

You're A Homo. Stop defending being gay. Its a sin and a one way ticket to hell, and the wrath of DORIS. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 06:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Three Dog

Very nice tip thank you, and if you have any reports of areas let me know and i will broadcast them into there rightful areas. There needs to be someone to put on some music. --Three Dog 03:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

well

If they have done it to the galaxy news radio page then removed my complaint at vandalizing i considered it only fair, and if i get banned, who cares? this game's gone to hell since kevan over powered the zombies and malton is in the shitter

--Three Dog 16:03, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

no he did not apologize and what happened to my group has nothing to do with why i got him back

i got him back for what he did then removing my complaint

i consider my act just and if i'm to be banned for it, i am not really bothered

EDIT: oops forgot to sign my post, sorry about the double alert --Three Dog 16:29, 11 :

December 2008 (UTC)

eh, Zerging has always been a problem for UD, and i'm not denying the fact i killed his page and removed his ::comments from my own page, i'll wait for the moderators or admins to contact me and i won't deny anything i've done. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by An unlucky guy (talk • contribs) 16.35, 11 December 2008 (UTC).

You seem like a smart guy...

What are you doing with an idiot like this? --Pestolence^(talk) 23:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Goodbye Soldier. Don't expect a reply. *applause* Congratulations. I wish you and the AZS the best of luck. --Pestolence^(talk) 19:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Gah...

Can you just become a sysop already so you can do that stuff yourself??--xoxo 01:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Move Requests

Thanks for going through those. Although, I have to wonder why you always left this: Reason: Provide a brief explanation of why you want the page moved. Not that it mattered on those since looking at the page made it clear, but for future reference you may want to add something. --– Nubis ^NWO 18:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome for the moves. I think there might have been a few more that I missed. I didn't fix all the links so many link to the redirects (which should probably be cleaned up), but I've been busy. Don't let the brewhaha on my talk page bother you. If you need anything feel free to ask. :) --– Nubis ^NWO 14:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to say..

..awesome navigation bar. I've never seen such an original one. - User:Whitehouse 18:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for only giving me a warning and not banning me from the site. it was very nice of you. I need a favor. Is there anyway you could delete my name off the vandalizers page in the wiki because it's kind of embarresing having my name on there with all the bad people for just being stupid.--Jerrel Yokotory 21:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Your warning can be struck after 1 month and 250 edits, not before. --Pestolence^(talk) 21:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Yep. Answered him on his talk page :) --Janus ^talk 21:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Dupe Pictures

this one is the only one I'm actually using - so yes, please feel free to delete the others! I was just playing around with size and such. Thanks! --Idril 16:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

For helping out with the radio group massacre. I'll try and do the rest today, but I've only got occassonal internet accsess, and might not get around to it (not to mention, laptop trackerpads are fail.)

Thanks again! Linkthewindow  Talk  02:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

-replied Linkthewindow  Talk  22:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

Yeah, just cycle it. --Blanemcc 10:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

What's up?

Hey Janus, anything new?

I need to ask you a question: I'm thinking of starting a group, do you think that's a good idea?

Well, See ya. (By the way, what do you think of my sig?) --ShiraX_Talk05:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

The group will be Pro-survivor, and I'm planning to make it a small unit that moves quick, and kills faster. In other words "Move in, Chop everything up, Move out".

(Thanks for the comment on about my sig, and yes, I'm planning to change the yellow, it's too bright) --ShiraX_Talk15:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

If you're starting a group its good to advertise everywhere. Even in your Sig. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the group will have a back-up unit, though it's creation can wait if we can rely on the AZS. And yes, the group will be open to anyone that has freerunning and an offensive skill, though I'll recruiting people with scientist skills too.

(Is the sig better now?)

--ShiraX_Talk15:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Have you heard from Soldier? Because I haven't seen him in a while (Not that I want to). --ShiraX_Talk15:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Tags

http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1183834

Notice how it says GROUP and you've written Anti-zombie squad?

Well on the stats page the only listing for Anti_zombie squad is for the Anti-Zombie Squad

This means that a large number of people in your group (in this case 11) are spelling it wrongly in their profiles showing you as having less members than you actually do. (I'm assuming less than 10 people have the tag spelt as you for that group is not showing up at all. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=531121

gibbz for example uses no capital letters. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

About the edit.

Nevermind that, i already fixed it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skouth (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Re: Journal

I'm placing it up for Speedy Deletion, I don't use it and it hasn't been touched properly in a few years. Thanks for reminding me though.-- Adward  18:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

We once had a bunch of Journals put of for deletion before. Only pure Crit 1s were deleted. Here is the summation. You guys don't need to have a ten point discussion on everything, you're supposed to be authoritative on these matters. Journal pages are owned pages, treated under similar rules as user pages and user sub-pages, they aren't deleted unless they meet a specific crit or are involved in vandalism. The Crit 1 has been deleted, the rest have been kept.--Karek 19:41, 22 April 2008 (BST) I don't think we should delete them.--– Nubis ^NWO 19:20, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but I don't want them. They basically contain no useful content to me, or anyone else, and so should be deleted. The other journal will be placed on SD as well, Janus.-- Adward  16:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Greatorex Building

Hi! Thanks for the tip. But it wasn't me who included the comment about Greatorex Building having a namesake. I just included a wikilink on it. Lomd 21:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Replied

here. Thanks! Linkthewindow  Talk  22:54, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: How come..

Well, I have an image to maintain as Sonny's "Lapdog". Not to mention, I do it for the lulz. --Blanemcc 23:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

He was after you. Canderous Ordo, his PKer alt, seemed to be shooting you guys. And yeah, its likely you would be rick roll'd --Blanemcc 23:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Question

Hey there, Janus. I need to get rid of a page, a template and an image, but I have never requested a Speedy Deletion before. Could you give me a hand? --ShiraX_Talk05:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You can haz cookie :)

	A FREE COOKIE
	Linkthewindow has given Janus Abernathy a cookie for for doing some pre-checking of groups.

Thanks for your help with the massacre :). Linkthewindow  Talk  05:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

When reverting vandalism...

You can revert it much faster (when you have mutiple edits by the same vandal) by just clicking on the timestamp from the last productive edit. For example:

(cur) (last) 18:18, 30 December 2008 Haliman111 (Talk | contribs) You would click on the bolded bit :).

Also remember to take vandals to A/VB.

Thanks! Linkthewindow  Talk  14:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, forgot something. Then just click "Edit" up the top. You'll get a warning about editing an old version, but ignore that, and just hit submit. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't know it :D --Janus ^talk 14:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry. Ironically, I didn't learn the method you used (better for single-edit vandalism,) until recently :). Linkthewindow  Talk  14:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Echalon

the Blue Aegis Group is making personell pages for all of our members, can u please explain what you meant? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Captain Rickety‎ (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Oh, okay then. I suppose that's fine then. I just get a little concerned whenever anyone starts taking interest in my pages.. bad past experiences and all. Anyways you like evangelion too? --Captain Rickety 21:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know they've made a few remakes of it in manga. But yesterday I just found out about Rebuild and the whole thing yesterday.--Captain Rickety 22:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Navbar

Hey hey, I just created it 2 minutes ago. I was still editing it when I got your message.--Thadeous Oakley 17:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I will get it changed, I was just still busy tweaking it. Thanks for your immediate attention though ;).--Thadeous Oakley 17:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I confused with categorizing it. Me failz. Syops can move.--Thadeous Oakley 17:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Cub Mcbub: Chronicles

OK... thank you for letting me know. My first day on a wiki. I was going to add this to the Cronicles: Outbreak. That would be OK? -- Cub McBub

Thanks for your reply. Let me know when it's moved. I guess I'll have to alter any link to it?--Cub McBub 19:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Morning. I moved the content of 'Outbreak: Cub's Chronicle' to the link you provided in your explaination. The original, which is enpty now, can be deleted. Thanks! --Cub McBub 13:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletions

Technically we are by voting delete on that entry because there's no crit or reason for otherwise removing it, the image is in use so normally it would never be deleted. We are demonstrating good faith as a community in trying to remove an offensive image from our wiki. True meat puppeting would mean putting the TZH group page up and forcing that through, given their continued conduct that might be what's going to happen. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 14:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Linking

But of course! Thanks for asking, I nearly forgot about that dusty old journal... --Private Mark 00:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

fyi

asking iscariot a question about the administration staff will only be answered with his "version" of things. A really twisted version of things. If a sysop could dismiss a deletion request, another could overturn his decision and allow a request to carry on being voted on. My arbitration case against him was dismissed since there was no point having my contested edits being restored, as karek's recent edits to the page have made then useless. If anyone were to wish the arbitration case to continue, that would me since it was my edits that got removed and unable to be restored for the duration of the arbie. And iscariot routine maintenance of his talk page is how he calls how he removes comments of users he doesnt like from his talk page. Had to reply this here, because this would've been removed from izzy's talk page faster than a sandwich in a room full of hungry somaliis. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 23:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Well of course it'll be my 'version' everything, what with me speaking for myself and all....

Yes, a sysop contesting a deletions request, because we know how well the misconduct procedure works with sysops judging themselves....

The arbitration wasn't dismissed, it was removed, note the difference.

It wasn't Hagnat's edits that got the arbitration case brought, it was the content, as the Jorm case I referenced (and Hagnat conveniently ignored) proves, content supersedes edit.

I am entitled by policy to remove any edits from my talk page that I dislike. I don't recall reading the one that allows Hagnat to remove the cases from Arbitration that he dislikes without censure or archiving. Notice how he won't put the case back.

Also notice that I don't use an ethnic slur as a witty punchline... -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm aware that I'm asking Iscariot's version of things :)

Hagnat, can you tell me what do you think of the current situation? --Janus ^talk 12:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

One of the major points of asking Iscariot anything on his talk page is that any dissenting view just gets deleted. He won't let us give our answer to his outrageous allegations there, and yet he stalks other users talk pages (sysops mainly, what's the bet they're watchlisted?), free to answer as he will. Does that not show you the weakness of, if not his position, then his nature? -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:40 16 January 2009 (BST)

Why are they outrageous? Anyway, Iscariot wrote this: I direct you to Nubis' comment below "But as you can plainly see Iscariot has a boner for me and is stalking my talk page", yes, indeed, something appears on my watch list because I've posted there before and I'm stalking him. --Janus ^talk 12:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

They're outrageous because he disallows any rebuttal. Despite the fact that I had never done anything to warrant summary deletion of my posts on his talk page (in fact it was my first edit to his page) he deleted my polite answer to the bullshit he was spouting about "what sysops should do" (basically, what sysops should do is whatever Iscariot demands). Do you really want me to go and look at his page, and copy and paste my rebuttals to his numerous examples of crappage to your talk page, and to anyone else's talk page that I may think is interested? A waste of my fucking time! He refuses to allow me to post there, where he makes his idiot allegations, knowing that they can't be answered by those who actually know the reasons that they made whatever decisions he disagrees with today -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:18 16 January 2009 (BST)

That's not how watchlists work. For a page to be listed in a user watchilist, he must manually add it to the list by pressing the watch button. Simply posting in a user's talk page wont do the trick. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Liar. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 15:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think he was trying to lie, more just being uninformed about said function.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Holy shit! If I checked that option, I'd have half the wiki on my watchlist by now! Nice way to avoid the issue though... that Iscariot feels free to edit any other users talk page he feels like, but selectively censors his own to stifle opposition to his own conspiracy theories -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 15:40 16 January 2009 (BST)

We couldnt have a better moment in this wiki. There are no active vandals, there are no raging battles between groups all over the wiki (there is a dispute between the Umbrella groups, but its resumed to only a few pages they own), The only really troubling user we had was Grim's, who was attempting to enforce his rule on all others and driving away those whom he didnt like, and he was defeated. We are in a period where things could be done instead of argued, but iscariot is simply being a total ass and ruining the moment. He claims its the sysops fault that users are being driven away, when the only sysop who was responsible for such is now gone... and izzy thinks he was the only good sysop! We now have to create new policies to cover the loopholes iscariot is abusing, we are having long discussions and having to waste time on the whims of a single user who thinks knows better than the rest of the community! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually Hagnat, you can edit your preferences to make it where any page you edit is added to your watchlist. That's how I have it set up, and I don't even use my list. I just look at the recent changes since my last edit. It helps when your RC is the last 2.5K edits.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Ooops... been so long since i last change my settings that i didnt remembered such option was available. HAHHA... Disregard that, i suck cocks. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

S'okay. Just thought I'd point it out to you.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I thought my ears were burning. Let me clear up a few things.

• I stalk Recent Changes - Not Iscariot. Him posting my line in the Summary caught my attention and since Hag had used it on Issy I thought he would enjoy that if he hadn't seen it already.
• My position on a sysop being able to refuse a deletion vote is because I know what the goons did and would have been capable of doing. I also know that they will be back and that DHPD won't be their only target. If Kevan himself hadn't vetoed the meat puppet policy the Goons were planning on brute forcing The DHPD into being a Historical Group. We could have done it.
• Also, that was posted on a discussion page. You know, kind of like a talk page where people are allowed to express their opinions, but somehow anything I post on a talk page that is my opinion is just another example of me trying to oppress the masses. Somehow, I'm not allowed to have an opinion since I am a sysop. (not a moderator as he points out repeatedly) It's not like I am editing the criteria with out a policy. I'm just asking how others see that situation. Kind of like you asking Iscariot his opinion on the sysop situation.
• I think the point I made about it being used as a weapon is valid. I think the point I made about the image AmberWaves specifically is valid since it didn't meet speedy delete criteria. I also know that I won't disagree with the deletion of the AmberWaves image because Dave Grohl was the user that had the stupidest argument with Grim over Text Rape. Oh no! an actual example of me letting my opinion of a user dictate my actions!
• Yet, I'm stalking him, and he's doing nothing wrong. - If you honestly think that he is doing nothing wrong then that is your opinion. You are entitled to it. But now you have at least some of my side of the situation. --– Nubis ^NWO 15:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)