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== Archives ==
== Archives ==
[[User_talk:Funt_Solo/Archive01|My incredibly interesting talk page archives, consisting of anything that didn't get blatantly deleted on a whim due to my disclaimer, above.]]
[[User_talk:Funt_Solo/Archive01|My incredibly interesting talk page archives, consisting of anything that didn't get blatantly deleted on a whim due to my disclaimer, above.]]
=Mod Conspiracy=
==[[Mod Conspiracy]]==
Hah, nice article, I had a good laugh. It's good to see someone still has a sense of humour while all of this drama's going on. Well done. - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] <span style="font-size: xx-small;color:#558">'''[03:01, 18 January 2008 (BST)]'''</span>
:Grim makes all the best stories.  I even skipped a couple in December because I didn't want it to turn into the Grim Show - but I guess I can only work with what I'm given.  My next article should be on witch-finding - I could interview Nali, who seems to be our latest witch-that-needs-burning.  I suppose I could interview you as well, as a former-witch.  Weren't you?  Memory failing... --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 09:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::Heh, well Grim is the most controversial sysop these days. Yeah, I was a former witch, I try to keep it on the low down these days. I don't know how interesting an interview type of article would be though. However I'm sure you could come up with something. - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] <span style="font-size: xx-small;color:#558">'''[03:24, 21 January 2008 (BST)]'''</span>
::I dont object to the page, but id like you to keep in mind thats its supposed to be humourous. The most recent one had a tone not unlike that of a rant. Besides, everyone knows i have a better helmet than that. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 03:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Fuck - now you're trying to manipulate the media!  (Joke.  Sort of.) --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 08:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Methinks there's enough drama now for an update, don't you? :p Can I be in it this time? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 20:57, 8 June 2008 (BST)
:::::Drama?  What drama?  <nowiki>[This comment approved and edited by the SA:UD Takeover Committee.  All is well.  Trust your leaders. Go back to bed.]</nowiki> --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 21:46, 10 June 2008 (BST)
== Summons ==
It would appear that [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Vandal_Banning#DCC|someone dropped a line about a conspiracy between the sysops]]. Update time? --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 18:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I am amused... by this... "conspiracy." --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. When do I get to join the "conspiracy"? :( I haven't got my key to the secret Sysop room yet. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 19:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure that a couple of guys dressed in black suits turn up at your front door with a saftey-deposit key, leading to a set of instructions whereby you place a specific wanted ad in a paper on a given day and are sent your key. they probably haven't found your house yet.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 21:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Anyone can (obviously) feel free to add their own reportage to that page.  It's starting to look far too much like The Grim Show, anyway - and now he's semi-retired.  I'm not inspired by anything these days - and I was far too close to the last thing I thought was even vaguely worthy.  Who is this DCC punk?  Doesn't he realise that his news of a conspiracy is olde news?  When I wert lad, we had proper conspiracies: none of this "they're trying to ban me for abusing a fellow wikizen" nonsense.  We had good old fashioned purges and secret cabals.  Come to think of it, Gnome is being kind of, quiet...is he the new power behind the throne? --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 21:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Gnome was ''always'' the power behind the throne........--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 21:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)




=Miscellaneous=
=Miscellaneous=
== LSD in the water ==
{{code|The students spiked the local drinking water with LSD and it's just now wearing off.}}
So it's possible that there never were any zombies?--[[User:Labine50|Labine50]] <sup>'''[[Malton Hospitals Group|MH]]'''</sup><nowiki>|</nowiki><sup>'''[[MEMS|ME]]'''</sup><nowiki>|</nowiki><sup>'''[[PFTP|P]]'''</sup> 22:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks to you!==
{{Cookie|Axe Hack|Funt Solo|reason=giving me 2 ideas to add into my Help Book suggestion}}--[[User:Axe Hack|Slice &#39;N&#39; Dicin&#39; Axe Hack]] 20:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


==Man, you are being [[Suggestions#Antiviral_Vaccine_.28Revised.29|rude]]==
==Man, you are being [[Suggestions#Antiviral_Vaccine_.28Revised.29|rude]]==
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:Yes. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 20:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 20:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::lol --[[User:SporeSore|SporeSore]] 13:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::lol --[[User:SporeSore|SporeSore]] 13:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
==An implimented suggestion==
Hi, I was looking through the PR archives, and found [[PR_Skill_Change:_Survivor#Diagnosis_Shows_Resulting_HP|this suggestion]] that has been implemented... Sorry I'm too lazy to move it myself, but I figure you know where and how it should be moved, it'd take me ages to work out the system for just this one... g'arn, be a pal -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[Zombie Squad|ZS]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 04:39, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
#Cut and paste the suggestion from it's current location to the Implemented Suggestions page (new at the bottom).
#Cut the entry on the Peer Reviewed page general listings.
#Create a new entry at the bottom of the Peer Reviewed page Implemented Suggestions listing. (This involves the date implemented, if known, the date the suggestion was first posted, and the author of the suggestion, if known.)
:--[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 07:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
:Did it today - I went on an edit mission. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 10:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
::Onya mate :) -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[Zombie Squad|ZS]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 10:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
{{Cookie|Boxy|Funt|reason=being an absolute suggestion archiving wizard!}}
==RE:Your Q on talk:suggestions==
Thanks Funt!  I would give you a cookie, but this rat ate them all.
{{FreeRat|Axe Hack|Funt Solo|answering my question on that suggestion backlot thingy.}}
Will the rat do?
--{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 13:31, 26 March 2007 (BST)
==Suggestions==
Eh, I see you've basicaly retired from cycling the suggestions system. 3 to 4 months of doing it, quite a good job. I'm starting to think that we need a template to say that such and such has worked on the suggestions system. =P I've got one question though, do you know what Zaruthustra's 2nd ‎law is? - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]]<sup>[[User_talk:Jedaz|ΣT]] [[Mod_Conspiracy|MC]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://da-jedas.deviantart.com/ ΞD] [http://www.opengis.com/ GIS] [http://www.solidinc.tk/ S!] <span style="color: #06F">12:45,</span> <span style="color: #05F">23</span> <span style="color: #04F">April</span> <span style="color: #03F">2007</span> <span style="color: #02F">(GMT)</span></span></sup>
:Not the first clue.  Religion isn't my thing, unless it's worship of pizza.  But a template would be nice. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 14:01, 23 April 2007 (BST)
::lol, well it's not actualy from a religion, but another [[User:Zaruthustra|wiki user]], although I'll forgive you for not knowing him because of how new you were to the wiki at the time he idled out. But the law states "Somebody will always vote keep given enough time" <sup>[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:Suggestions/Archive6#Induce_Coma]</sup>. Just a useless bit of information that I thought I'ld share. Anyway once I make that template I'll let you know about it so you can show it proudly =P - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]]<sup>[[User_talk:Jedaz|ΣT]] [[Mod_Conspiracy|MC]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://da-jedas.deviantart.com/ ΞD] [http://www.opengis.com/ GIS] [http://www.solidinc.tk/ S!] <span style="color: #06F">13:12,</span> <span style="color: #05F">23</span> <span style="color: #04F">April</span> <span style="color: #03F">2007</span> <span style="color: #02F">(GMT)</span></span></sup>
:::Funt's 15th Law of UD Misconceptions: HP ''do'' matter to a zombie. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 14:27, 23 April 2007 (BST)
::::Heh, well here's the template for you. {{tl|SW}} - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]]<sup>[[User_talk:Jedaz|ΣT]] [[Mod_Conspiracy|MC]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://da-jedas.deviantart.com/ ΞD] [http://www.opengis.com/ GIS] [http://www.solidinc.tk/ S!] <span style="color: #06F">06:47,</span> <span style="color: #05F">24</span> <span style="color: #04F">April</span> <span style="color: #03F">2007</span> <span style="color: #02F">(GMT)</span></span></sup>
{{SW}}
Can I refer you to this: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:News#Just_noticed_this
and this: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PR_Class_Change:_Survivor_%26_Zombie#Starting_Equipment. Looks Like parts of our suggestion got through. -- [[User:Andrew McM|Andrew McM]] <sup> [[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup> 23:28, 24 April 2007 (BST)
Hi, it's the following four suggestions that have been implemented there:
*[[PR_Class_Change:_Survivor#Doctors_Start_With_Diagnosis|Doctor change]]
*[[PR_Class_Change:_Survivor#Scouts_Start_With_Binoculars|Binoculars for New Scouts]]
*[[PR_Class_Change:_Survivor#Fire_Fighters_Start_With_Radio|Fire Fighters Start With Radio]]
*[[Suggestions/31st-Mar-2007#Consumer_Class_Starts_With_Random_Weapon|Consumer Class Starts With Random Weapon]]
Congrats to all involved. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 08:59, 25 April 2007 (BST)
== Awfully ==
Quiet.. are you still around or taking a wiki-holiday? --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 01:50, 24 June 2007 (BST)
:Wiki-holiday.  --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 20:20, 24 June 2007 (BST)
Dude, I hope you come back soon. Soooo many newbies on the wiki. Not that there is anything wrong with that. --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 04:23, 3 July 2007 (BST)
Awfully good to see you're still about <small>The preceding signed comment was added by [[User:Boxy|boxy]] ([[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Boxy|contribs]]) at 10:28 8 August 2007 (BST)</small>
:Just popped in to have a look around the old place. :) --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 10:34, 8 August 2007 (BST)
::C'arn, give us a spam vote, just for old times sake ;) <small>The preceding signed comment was added by [[User:Boxy|boxy]] ([[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Boxy|contribs]]) at 11:30 8 August 2007 (BST)</small>
:::And done. --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 11:48, 8 August 2007 (BST)
Nice to see you again. Are you back? Or just ''popped in to have a look''? -- {{User:JohnRubin/sig}} 21:59, 13 October 2007 (BST)
Back with a vengance, I see? --{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 23:21, 14 October 2007 (BST)
:''waves'' --[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]] [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|20px]] 23:25, 14 October 2007 (BST)
==You so smart ^^==
{{Zomburger|WOOT|Funt Solo|being so smart}}
Couldn't find a cookie, so take this... --[[User:WOOT|/~WOOT~\]] 22:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
== Building Pics. ==
Like the new building pics. My favourites the duke of albany.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:Is that the pub? --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 19:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yep. Its the location for shaun of the dead.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the pics are great.... Plus, it saves me some bother when I get round to creating the individual pages for em.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 20:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
== we <3 bollocks ! ==
Ahahaaaa!! That's what I used to think, too. I couldn't figure out for the life of me what it meant, it looks like... well... bollocks. I think someone had to tell me. At least I'm not the only one.... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 21:39, 14 April 2008 (BST)
:Ee-ouk!  And Hagnat says he bollocks Jorm!  OH NOES! --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 21:46, 14 April 2008 (BST)


==Precinct 13?==
==Precinct 13?==
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:::The day has come. Actually it came a few weeks ago. But i just noticed this so i thought i'd let you know that my dream has come true.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 02:00, 9 June 2008 (BST)
:::The day has come. Actually it came a few weeks ago. But i just noticed this so i thought i'd let you know that my dream has come true.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 02:00, 9 June 2008 (BST)


==Why did you revert my news?==
[[User:Ted Blackheart|Ted Blackheart]] 21:05, 22 October 2008 (BST)
:Not sure what news removal you're talking about specifically (knowing funt, it could be any number of posts...) but i suggest you read the news guidelines at the top of the news section on each suburb page. News posts should be NPOV and avoid tactical advice or calls for help.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:33, 23 October 2008 (BST)
:First off, you'd edited the header incorrectly.  The help pages (see links on your left) should help you with that - or just copy what other people have done and check your edits later.  Secondly, your report referred to a single zombie attacking a single building.  Frankly, for an entire suburb, that isn't newsworthy (unless the zombie is 10 stories high and shits exploding unicorns). There are individual building pages for what is happening at individual buildings.  Your report would have been more appropriate there. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 07:10, 23 October 2008 (BST)
People like you make wikis die. You should be proud of yourself.
[[User:Ted Blackheart|Ted Blackheart]] 02:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry budster, but I have to side with Funt. Does this one zombie have, perhaps, several beautiful curves and lushious lips and eyes that scream 'lurrve me?' Because if not, it isn't worth an entire suburb news section. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 09:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:OH NOES! I kiLLED TEH WIKI? --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 17:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, yes you did. Congratulations. Want a cookie?--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 18:17, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:::{{cookie|Cheese|Funt|reason=killing the wiki}} -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
::::[[Talk:Main_Page#THE_WIKI.27S_BACK|Can i haz?]]--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 23:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


==Encumbrance Calculator?==
=Purpose of the Wiki?=
The page seems not to be working...any ideas when it will be back up or where I can access it from a different site? --[[User:BrainsTasty|BrainsTasty]] 06:30, 10 June 2008 (BST)
:I'll have it back up on a new addy - I had to move all my 'net gear recently.  Watch this space. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 08:38, 10 June 2008 (BST)
:Ding! [http://gribligs.net/UDencCalc/ UD enc calc]
 
== Oh hi. ==
 
Hello, Since all of the subterranean suggestions I've found a bit dated.. I've been combining and updating the following,


[[PR_Malton#The Underworld|The Underworld]] (For the most part, this one)
==Is this wiki fit for purpose?==
I can't help but notice the wiki is something of a ghost town.  It has all this info on it (much of it years old and probably irrelevant), but only a handful of editors.  I wonder about user stats (of the wiki, not the game) and also what use any player of Urban Dead might make of the info here. 


With or without the Padlocks, and No seeing the location above you, as is Subway Tunnels.
Coming into the main page we have news from 2015 and a huge community portal that was last edited in 2014.  There's links to Monroeville (9 users) and Borehamwood (7 users).  The suggestions portal was updated 8 times in 2016, and never since.


Perhaps instead of messing with search rates of the above world, Some unlocked underground locations might have them?
Clearly, most of this information is pointless.  Shouldn't we cut out all the useless crap nobody's used for years and just keep the useful stuff?  Anyone mind if I go ahead and do some of that? --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 22:41, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
:Do you mean delete the wiki? Or bring certain frequently-updated content front and center? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
::"Bring certain frequently-updated content front and center", yes.  (Perhaps some old stuff should be deleted.  But, at the least, it probably shouldn't be linked to from the main page.  Example: is there a need for the suggestions portal to be linked to right now?  Not only does nobody make suggestions, but the game developer doesn't seem interested in updating the game.) --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 23:14, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
:::No I suppose the suggestions page isn't worth too much right now. I would suggest putting some of the danger report and suburb info in a more visible place, since it's almost the only place that has an activity nowadays. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:24, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
:It's nice to have a breath of fresh air through the wiki. In terms of user activity on the wiki, the [[Special:ActiveUsers|Active Users list]] is one of the best indicators we probably have. In terms of the news for the front page, that's on Kevan, since it only gets updated in response to in-game news. So far as cutting out the useless stuff goes, I'm fine with reducing its visibility, particularly from the front page, but I'd still keep it around as an archive of things that once-were, since that's one of the primary ways the wiki is used by the people who are still around. I definitely wouldn't delete any old content.


Just a thought
:Oh, and as far as updating the group listings go, which I saw you had gone through and done, most groups never update the wiki despite remaining active in-game. We typically do a [[GSGM|Great Suburb Group Massacre]] every few years to confirm that they're truly inactive before we remove them, though the last one was in 2013, so we're likely due for a new one at this point.


[[PR_Malton#Subway Tunnels|Subway Tunnels]]
:Also, hi! I just realized I've never actually talked with you before since you pre-dated my start on the wiki. It's always a pleasure to see an old name return, particularly one who is so well-known from those early days. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


= [[User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Concepts/Subterranean|Subterranean]]
::Hi Aichon - nice to meet you & thanks for the welcome.  (The wiki was totally mental then.  Much more peaceful now.) 


I just found [[User:Funt_Solo/Underworld|this]].
::I hear you on the group listings.  I'm thinking I should leave a message on their page letting them know I've removed them and if they're still active to let me know so I can change it back. I agree that archiving stuff is better than deleting it.  We could replace [[Kevan|He Who Shalt Not Be Named]]'s news (as it appears he may never update it) with something else, I'm thinking.  


However, with the advent of [[Dark|darkness]], and all the rejected Night vision things, plus the existing mechanics, There's more to be done.
::My motivation is to make the wiki relevant: especially to new players.  I hate the idea that they'd start the game, come into the wiki and just be bamboozled by all the ancient irrelevant content and think "oh, this place is dead", when actually it's got a lot of useful info.  As the main page and some of the relevant templates are protected, I'll need to go through [[sysops|psyops]] to get it done anyway. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 18:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


{{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 18:50, 22 August 2008 (BST)
:::I'm completely on board with making the wiki more relevant to new players. You may want to get in touch with [[User:Stelar|Stelar]], since she's been looking to spruce up various pages and templates in the last year or two. Plus, her talk page is a bit more watched by others than yours is by this point, so reaching out to her would help to bring some more visibility to the changes you're looking to make. But yes, I definitely agree that culling some of the links to outdated or irrelevant resources while putting a focus on the areas that remain useful (e.g. guides) or are regularly updated (e.g. status map) would go a long way towards restoring the wiki's utility.
:::I do think you nailed it when you said that the wiki looks like a ghost town, and I'd love to see some new (or returning) blood reinvigorate the site and give it a new sense of direction. I know that I'm not the one to do it, since I've had a foot out the door for years, but if there's anything you need I'm happy to serve as a sounding board, offer technical assistance, or provide you with a (relatively) quick turnaround on admin services you may need. Plus, I'm always watching random pages, so I'll tidy up anything that looks like it may have gotten out of place. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
::::I haven't had much time in the past couple of months (got a promotion, moved for work, busy store, etc), but I keep wanting to do something with the front page. I have hated seeing the "Game news" thing being so outdated, especially since nothing really seemed to have come from the survey. I'm more than happy to collaborate on something like that. The East Becktown page was something [[User:Peralta|Peralta]] and I did because we thought the suburb pages weren't as user friendly as they could be. So I've been involved in a couple things in improving/updating the wiki. But the main page has been virtually the same ever since I can remember, and I've been playing on and off over the past 10 years. So it definitely needs some kind of new life to it. [[User:Stelar|stelar]] ([[User talk:Stelar|talk]]) 13:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::I really liked the East Becktown page - all the info was right there without having to scroll.  I thought "I'll use this as a template for a new template and do all the 'burb pages like this".  My desires for change will of course meet the walls of financial reality and it'll take me months to get anything done.  --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 21:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was why we did it. The most important stuff for a suburb was buried further down the page. I am more than happy to work on that project with you though! It took us about two months I think to finally get it completed, but since we now have a template, it's going to be a lot simpler to implement it into other suburbs. I'm on the UDWiki discord, so feel free to get in touch with me there if you like :) [[User:Stelar|stelar]] ([[User talk:Stelar|talk]]) 23:51, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


:Hi.  The subway tunnels one isn't mine.  Aye, I wrote the Underworld an absolute ''age'' ago - when I first found the suggestions system, so it's dated, right enough. Uhm ... I'm busy with other things, so I don't mind at all if you use that stuff as inspiration for your own suggestions, if that's what you were trying to say. (As this is a wiki, it seems somewhat redundant to copy the entire text of any suggestion to your sub-pages, when you could instead just link to the relevant pages.) --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 21:24, 22 August 2008 (BST)
:Hello! Just wanted to drop by and say, I 100% endorse putting more relevant info front-and-center on the wiki. There've been some discussions about the main page before, but they never really got anywhere — but it's been long enough that it's probably time for a new one.
:As for the suburb group listings, feel free to de-clutter them. I like the idea of leaving a talk page message for the groups removed, but it isn't officially required. As for a Great Suburb Group Massacre, another one at this point would probably be just me removing everything since so few groups check the wiki actively; the 2013 one will probably remain the last GSGM.
:I don't recommend deleting large amounts of old info, though. One thing I love about the wiki is that it's an archaeologist's dream, a treasure-trove of information about a dying culture. We can decommission things (the suggestions system, for example) but definitely should keep all the old info up. This is definitely my classics/anthropology major talking :P
:And, nice to meet you! Thanks for keeping the EMRs updated these last couple weeks (for the prior year or so it's been just me) and for your enthusiasm for the wiki. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:02, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
::Dammit Funt! How's tricks? Hmm. Archiving suggestions might have it's merits. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


==Striking Votes==
:::Hi Bob - nice to meet you! Hi Rosslessness - long time no wiki.  Feels weird to be thinking about archiving suggestions - it was so busy there. And now there's nothing left to spam*weeps* --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 21:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Do you seriously want to rehash [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20080825_Searching_In_A_Dark_Building&diff=1258702&oldid=1258700 this] drama? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:11, 26 August 2008 (BST)
:Feel free to reinstate the stricken vote, if you feel strongly about it. I will not contest any such edit.  I was following the guidelines given on the page which (as you're aware, I'm sure) say "Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped [and those] that do not conform ... may be struck by any user." No drama required. Good night and good luck. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 05:59, 26 August 2008 (BST)


==Why did he delete my post? He's no mod!==
On September 14th, [[User:The_Hierophant]] deleted my post because he felt it was a biased POV. When making the post I was trying to express what my character had witnessed and what is factually accurate. Please investigate this. I have placed a very boring and plain comment on the wiki, something non-POV and bland. If this is really the flavour that is preferred on the wiki, I will understand, but just deleting my comments smacks of vandalism. Thank you for your time. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]] 05:57, 15 September 2008 (BST)
:Hi. I suggest if you have issue with his edit that you discuss it with him.  If the result of any such discussion is not to your liking, then there is always the option of seeking Arbitration. I don't care enough about the matter to spend any more time considering it. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 06:03, 15 September 2008 (BST)
::Oh my! The reason I mentioned this to you, is the person who had my post deleted has informed me that he considers my characters KOS in-game. I had not anticipated that he would also be stalking me on the wiki. - [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]] 14:43, 15 September 2008 (BST)
:::Oh fuck you, Fred, you obnoxious little fucking martyr. You want a reason why the entry was deleted? One word: 'Our'. You used it three times in the entry: 'There are still some [[zombie|undead]] in the region, but there numbers are not strong enough to ruin our [[safehouse|homes]], our [[mall|supermercado]], or our [[Herbert Building|necrotech]]'. That makes it POV. And why did I take an interest in it? Well, in a shocking turn of events it's got nothing to do with you. Roftwood and Hildebrand Mall's danger level are two of the relatively few pages that I have on my Watch list and in this instance I noticed something amiss. As to your character (note the lack of an 'S' there) being KOS (he's not, by the way, as there is no GC KOS list, but let's pretend that he is, just for old time's sake), that has nothing to do with it and you know it, you sad little bitch. He's KOS because he's an ex-member of a death cult: It comes with the territory. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 22:37, 15 September 2008 (BST)


:::ETA: How the fuck did I miss the fact that I can actually quote something from his entry here on this page? Sir Fred of Etruria: 'When making the post I was trying to express what my character had witnessed'. POV. End. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 23:09, 15 September 2008 (BST)
:My suggestion would be to do whatever you think works. No one ever really minds anymore and it never really affects many people anyway. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:33, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
::::Any further drama llama shiznit on my talk page will be summarily deleted. Take it to your own talk pages. Cheers! --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 15:54, 16 September 2008 (BST)


== Eastonwood danger level ==
before we get into an edit war... i'd just like to ask: have you scouted Easton' at all? because we've been through this so many times before, where someone says based on an ExMil report, "Oh Easton's a Ghost Town"... Then someone (sometimes me) takes an actual look ''inside'' the buildings... And, no, it ain't no Ghost Town. Consistently. That's why I reverted it back to V/Danger, because there was only an ExMil to make it G/Town in the first place. That's all, cheers. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 16:37, 15 September 2008 (BST)
:Hi Wan - thanks for coming to discuss this - and no, I don't want to enter an edit war.  Clearly, if you have better (i.e. more accurate) information than me, then I will bow to it.  To be clear, are you saying that the buildings are occupied by more zombies than can be seen on the streets, and that the total number of zombies is greater than 60? If that ''is'' the case, and you have recently scouted, I'd ask that you post a report on that suburb page, so that it remains clear to anyone else why the danger level is Very D, and not Ghost T.  Cheers! --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 16:41, 15 September 2008 (BST)
::I don't have that information, I haven't been there in ages. But my point is, no one has, apparently. Other than EF. (I may go there soon, though...) Therefore, it makes sense not to change the danger level to Ghost Town, but to leave it as it was, until we know either way. This is based on the history of danger level reports in Eastonwood, where the Ghost Town edits have ALWAYS been disproven. Always... exactly because there were bazillions of zombies inside. However, with only 20 zombies reported, perhaps it's up to the EF or someone else to prove otherwise; if it was reporting say 40 zombies, I'd say, "No chance, leave it V/D"... But it says only 20, soooo... maybe... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:00, 15 September 2008 (BST)
:::I just investigated with a character - see 'burb report page. I've changed it to Ghost Town, given the evidence.  And the danger report specs say that 60 is the upper limit for a Ghost-T, not 20, or 40, or whatever. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 19:02, 15 September 2008 (BST)
::::Yes, yes I saw ... '':P'' If you're not already, you should get in on the SimSniff thing. It's one of the best intel tools ever made, but atm we have like 3-5 people tops who update it. Every person who can add a few sniffs even semi-regularly helps immensely. Talk to sweirs about getting an "account", or figure out how to do the anon thing (I dunno, cuz I don't need it). It'd be very cool to get more ppl updating it. Cheers! --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:13, 15 September 2008 (BST)
:::::The 20 quoted based on EM or SIM only includes zombies on the streets. Based on my recent experience in Ew most zombies sleep in buildings to avoid having ruins repaired. While in Eastonwood i entered around 10 different buildings and not a single one had no zombies, most had 3-4 suggesting that there is around 60 or more zombies in the suburb.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:12, 17 September 2008 (BST)
::::::Agreed, and done. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 16:51, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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== My regrets, ==
Funt Solo,
I am sorry for the inconvinience I have provided over the lasy days. I am still working out how this wiki works. But I can provide you with the intel about certain suburbs wich I had gotten from people I know. But of well let's forget that. ;)
I'l try and be more well how to say this responsible for the actions I take with the wiki and therefor hope to better it.
Also is it possible to speak in private? As I wish to know a few things but using the wiki is sort of a bit hard for the situation.
Greets

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Man, you are being rude

Even if I was stupid (and I am not no matter what you may think) it would still be very impolite to say the things you said. You act like you own the Wiki. And I am glad you don't - no matter how much you do for it. This is sad. --JohnRubin 20:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --Funt Solo Scotland flag.JPG 20:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
lol --SporeSore 13:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Precinct 13?

I was reading through your suggs (some of which are very cool and found this reference to precinct 13, what is it and why is it in gatcombeton? Thanks.--xoxo 10:24, 4 May 2008 (BST)

Gatcombeton is the 13th suburb (reading ttb-ltr), and the Lamport Walk PD is an island, surrounded by car parks and streets. This is reminiscent of the set up for the movie Assault on Precinct 13. That's all. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 12:28, 4 May 2008 (BST)
Ah ok, i figured it was something such. Nice double meaning, and i've always meant to go that famous PD and overcade it...one day, one day...--xoxo 05:48, 5 May 2008 (BST)
The day has come. Actually it came a few weeks ago. But i just noticed this so i thought i'd let you know that my dream has come true.--xoxo 02:00, 9 June 2008 (BST)

Why did you revert my news?

Ted Blackheart 21:05, 22 October 2008 (BST)

Not sure what news removal you're talking about specifically (knowing funt, it could be any number of posts...) but i suggest you read the news guidelines at the top of the news section on each suburb page. News posts should be NPOV and avoid tactical advice or calls for help.--xoxo 06:33, 23 October 2008 (BST)
First off, you'd edited the header incorrectly. The help pages (see links on your left) should help you with that - or just copy what other people have done and check your edits later. Secondly, your report referred to a single zombie attacking a single building. Frankly, for an entire suburb, that isn't newsworthy (unless the zombie is 10 stories high and shits exploding unicorns). There are individual building pages for what is happening at individual buildings. Your report would have been more appropriate there. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 07:10, 23 October 2008 (BST)

People like you make wikis die. You should be proud of yourself. Ted Blackheart 02:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry budster, but I have to side with Funt. Does this one zombie have, perhaps, several beautiful curves and lushious lips and eyes that scream 'lurrve me?' Because if not, it isn't worth an entire suburb news section. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
OH NOES! I kiLLED TEH WIKI? --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 17:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, yes you did. Congratulations. Want a cookie?-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:17, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Cheese has given Funt a cookie for killing the wiki
-- Cheese 18:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Can i haz?--xoxo 23:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Purpose of the Wiki?

Is this wiki fit for purpose?

I can't help but notice the wiki is something of a ghost town. It has all this info on it (much of it years old and probably irrelevant), but only a handful of editors. I wonder about user stats (of the wiki, not the game) and also what use any player of Urban Dead might make of the info here.

Coming into the main page we have news from 2015 and a huge community portal that was last edited in 2014. There's links to Monroeville (9 users) and Borehamwood (7 users). The suggestions portal was updated 8 times in 2016, and never since.

Clearly, most of this information is pointless. Shouldn't we cut out all the useless crap nobody's used for years and just keep the useful stuff? Anyone mind if I go ahead and do some of that? --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 22:41, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean delete the wiki? Or bring certain frequently-updated content front and center? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
"Bring certain frequently-updated content front and center", yes. (Perhaps some old stuff should be deleted. But, at the least, it probably shouldn't be linked to from the main page. Example: is there a need for the suggestions portal to be linked to right now? Not only does nobody make suggestions, but the game developer doesn't seem interested in updating the game.) --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 23:14, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
No I suppose the suggestions page isn't worth too much right now. I would suggest putting some of the danger report and suburb info in a more visible place, since it's almost the only place that has an activity nowadays. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:24, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
It's nice to have a breath of fresh air through the wiki. In terms of user activity on the wiki, the Active Users list is one of the best indicators we probably have. In terms of the news for the front page, that's on Kevan, since it only gets updated in response to in-game news. So far as cutting out the useless stuff goes, I'm fine with reducing its visibility, particularly from the front page, but I'd still keep it around as an archive of things that once-were, since that's one of the primary ways the wiki is used by the people who are still around. I definitely wouldn't delete any old content.
Oh, and as far as updating the group listings go, which I saw you had gone through and done, most groups never update the wiki despite remaining active in-game. We typically do a Great Suburb Group Massacre every few years to confirm that they're truly inactive before we remove them, though the last one was in 2013, so we're likely due for a new one at this point.
Also, hi! I just realized I've never actually talked with you before since you pre-dated my start on the wiki. It's always a pleasure to see an old name return, particularly one who is so well-known from those early days. Aichon 15:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Aichon - nice to meet you & thanks for the welcome. (The wiki was totally mental then. Much more peaceful now.)
I hear you on the group listings. I'm thinking I should leave a message on their page letting them know I've removed them and if they're still active to let me know so I can change it back. I agree that archiving stuff is better than deleting it. We could replace He Who Shalt Not Be Named's news (as it appears he may never update it) with something else, I'm thinking.
My motivation is to make the wiki relevant: especially to new players. I hate the idea that they'd start the game, come into the wiki and just be bamboozled by all the ancient irrelevant content and think "oh, this place is dead", when actually it's got a lot of useful info. As the main page and some of the relevant templates are protected, I'll need to go through psyops to get it done anyway. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 18:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm completely on board with making the wiki more relevant to new players. You may want to get in touch with Stelar, since she's been looking to spruce up various pages and templates in the last year or two. Plus, her talk page is a bit more watched by others than yours is by this point, so reaching out to her would help to bring some more visibility to the changes you're looking to make. But yes, I definitely agree that culling some of the links to outdated or irrelevant resources while putting a focus on the areas that remain useful (e.g. guides) or are regularly updated (e.g. status map) would go a long way towards restoring the wiki's utility.
I do think you nailed it when you said that the wiki looks like a ghost town, and I'd love to see some new (or returning) blood reinvigorate the site and give it a new sense of direction. I know that I'm not the one to do it, since I've had a foot out the door for years, but if there's anything you need I'm happy to serve as a sounding board, offer technical assistance, or provide you with a (relatively) quick turnaround on admin services you may need. Plus, I'm always watching random pages, so I'll tidy up anything that looks like it may have gotten out of place. Aichon 20:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
I haven't had much time in the past couple of months (got a promotion, moved for work, busy store, etc), but I keep wanting to do something with the front page. I have hated seeing the "Game news" thing being so outdated, especially since nothing really seemed to have come from the survey. I'm more than happy to collaborate on something like that. The East Becktown page was something Peralta and I did because we thought the suburb pages weren't as user friendly as they could be. So I've been involved in a couple things in improving/updating the wiki. But the main page has been virtually the same ever since I can remember, and I've been playing on and off over the past 10 years. So it definitely needs some kind of new life to it. stelar (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I really liked the East Becktown page - all the info was right there without having to scroll. I thought "I'll use this as a template for a new template and do all the 'burb pages like this". My desires for change will of course meet the walls of financial reality and it'll take me months to get anything done. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 21:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that was why we did it. The most important stuff for a suburb was buried further down the page. I am more than happy to work on that project with you though! It took us about two months I think to finally get it completed, but since we now have a template, it's going to be a lot simpler to implement it into other suburbs. I'm on the UDWiki discord, so feel free to get in touch with me there if you like :) stelar (talk) 23:51, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello! Just wanted to drop by and say, I 100% endorse putting more relevant info front-and-center on the wiki. There've been some discussions about the main page before, but they never really got anywhere — but it's been long enough that it's probably time for a new one.
As for the suburb group listings, feel free to de-clutter them. I like the idea of leaving a talk page message for the groups removed, but it isn't officially required. As for a Great Suburb Group Massacre, another one at this point would probably be just me removing everything since so few groups check the wiki actively; the 2013 one will probably remain the last GSGM.
I don't recommend deleting large amounts of old info, though. One thing I love about the wiki is that it's an archaeologist's dream, a treasure-trove of information about a dying culture. We can decommission things (the suggestions system, for example) but definitely should keep all the old info up. This is definitely my classics/anthropology major talking :P
And, nice to meet you! Thanks for keeping the EMRs updated these last couple weeks (for the prior year or so it's been just me) and for your enthusiasm for the wiki. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:02, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Dammit Funt! How's tricks? Hmm. Archiving suggestions might have it's merits. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Bob - nice to meet you! Hi Rosslessness - long time no wiki. Feels weird to be thinking about archiving suggestions - it was so busy there. And now there's nothing left to spam. *weeps* --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 21:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


My suggestion would be to do whatever you think works. No one ever really minds anymore and it never really affects many people anyway. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:33, 5 October 2017 (UTC)