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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.

Guidelines for Arbitration Requests

In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.

Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:

• The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
• The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
• Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.

Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.

After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.

Current Arbitrators

For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.

The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator (even if not listed below) and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}

Also note that not all listed Arbitrators are active on the Wiki.

edit Volunteer Arbitrators in Alphabetical Order
DanceDanceRevolution	Rosslessness

Arbitration Cases Currently Under Consideration

Administration Notice

Use this header to create new arbitration cases. Once all sides have chosen an arbiter, move the case to a sub-page of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration and update its status in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

User:Cheveyo vs User:Rosslessness

Rosslessness is personally attacking me because he claims I called him a zerger in game which I never did. Now he has created a user page, user:rosslessness/Hmm, to personally attack me. It seems that he is on a witch hunt and that this is not going to stop. I would like to have the page deleted as this is personal. I believe that he has crossed the line and he keeps asking questions about my personal life. This is starting to head towards not only arbitration, but something legal. This is uncalled for and needs to stop. I have gave him an explanation and he can believe it or not. But he needs to move on. I am tired of this. And this is not conduct of someone that is needed here. If it continues, I would suggest banning him permanently. Because he is creating more problems than this is worth. --Cheveyo 09:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord vs Lelouch

LeDouche clearly has no interest in editing my suggestions other than trolling them. I seek to have him banned from editing any of my suggestions. I will offer LeDouche the same deal I gave Boberton:

1. LeDouche will not comment on any suggestions User:Zombie Lord submits to Developing Suggestions (including deletion warnings and cycling).
2. LeDouche reserves the right to freely comment on suggestions User:Zombie Lord puts to voting, and other people's suggestions on DS.

As an optional condition LeDouche may also include a mutual Talk Page ban if he wishes.

I will accept Boxy, Honestmistake, SA, Linkthewindow, The Rooster, Yonnua or AHLG as arbitrator.

If LeDouche will accept this simple agreement and picks an Arbitrator in a timely fashion, we can take care of this in 5 minutes, no muss, no fuss, no drama.--

| T | BALLS! | 04:39 2 January 2010(UTC)

I'll be around for the rest of the day. In order to end this thing, I'll arbitrate (assuming Lelouch accepts, of course.) Sounds simple enough. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

The only way I'd ever feel right about not editing his suggestions would be if he either stopped obviously broken ones for the purpose of starting flame wars. Come to think of it, I'd actually accept this if there were a counter-order limiting ZL from positing an idea on DS more than once every 7 days. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 16:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

If he actually accepts this, I'll accept any arbitrator that abides by our exchange. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 16:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

No. If you want to enforce a limit on the number of suggestions that can be put up, make a Policy and get the votes.--

| T | BALLS! | 20:54 3 January 2010(UTC)

I will also volunteer to arbitrate. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 19:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I volunteer to arbitrate.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

As above. I volunteer. --Haliman - Talk 19:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I volunteer to arbitrate this case.-- Adward  22:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Why can't this just be merged with the below case? Both of us are asking for one outcome based off of the same series of cases, and I think that arbies are allowed to include claims and counterclaims. I really don't want to have to type this shit up twice. I've got nerd stuff to be doing. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

No. If you really have better things to do, then you will accept my generous offer. It would free up a considerable amount of your "precious time" just in all the trolling you will no longer "need" to do on my suggestions.--

| T | BALLS! | 23:30 3 January 2010(UTC)

I didn't know it was possible to troll a troll. --Zaphord 01:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

are you kidding...? xoxo 09:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I would be willing to arbie this one if you both want --Honestmistake 13:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Taco2 v. Iscariot

Excuse me, I'm new so I apologize if I did anything wrong. One of the administrators here (In the UK Rage) came into my talk page and started leaving me abusive and foul messages because I didn't do something on my page correctly. In addition to calling me all kinds of rude names, tHis person also made threats to "run me off the wiki." I would like to report this person's behavior because this is the kind of thing that makes people leave and no longer participate. YOu can read it on my talk page under "admin pages." I will refrain from responding to this person any longer. Thank you for treating my complaint seriously. Sincerely, --Taco2 19:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't start this case, so I really fucking suggest you remove my name from being first. Also, did you move this from misconduct and remove my comment for no reason? Because that is vandalism and could lead to you getting banned. Or did you start a brand new case and remove an in progress misconduct case? Because that's vandalism as well.

I'll deal with the rest of the amusement of this case when you've sorted all of that. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I imstructed him to remove the misconduct case of a non-sysop and bring it to the relevant page. A/M is not for disputes like this. 20:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

So it's a move and he removed my comment? Bob seems to think that's vandalism. Why is this still titled as if I started it? I consider that impersonation, which is another count of vandalism. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

FFS... "Did you just report yourself for misconduct? Do you remember what I said about reading the page before you posted? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)" - From previous mispost on A/M. 20:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, can we now deal with him changing the header? As he's changed it without note it makes my comment nonsensical and is therefore yet another count of impersonation. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

He did exactly what you asked him to do. Stop being a fucking pedant. By the way this comment and yours now count as notice that the header once read "Iscariot vs Taco2" and now is in reverse. 20:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Spot who's gotten snotty with power. I await him to progress with the case, as he can't even start a case in the correct manner I shall sit back and wait for the comedy to start. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Or, you know, who understands manners. Anyway, he's progressed. He asked for an apology and for you to let him be. If you don't want to give him either, start naming arbitrators. 20:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It appears I'm just an innocent bystander in this person's angry vengeful crusade against some people in charge here. I apologize for whatever page I may have inadvertantly messed up. It wasn't purposeful. But, whatever it is I did, I am quite sure that it can't be in any way as disruptive as letting this person go around and leave his foul and abusive grafitti on new user's talk pages. I have a child and we were having fun playing this, but I don't want her to read this kind of stuff, especially having someone call her mother a "cunt." Can it please be hidden in some way. Thank you.--Taco2 20:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It's perfectly acceptable for you, or any user, to remove comments on their own talk pages, as those are considered personal spaces for their owners. If you wish to censor or remove anything you don't wish on your talk page, you're perfectly within your bounds to do so. 20:47, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

If you want to take a screen capture of it as evidence, go ahead. My daughter isn't here today. I'll wait until you tell me to delete it. BTW, you are very professional and I appreciate your assistance. You restore my interest in continuing to participate with my UD Wiki activity. I hope I can do so without any further harassment from this individual. Happy Holidays again!--Taco2 20:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead and do it now. All pages have a history of logs, so we can access previous versions of a page should we need to. 20:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

What would you seek as the result of this arbitration? Mutual barring from each others' talk pages and from non-vital response to each others' comments elsewhere seems to me a good compromise. If both parties want to agree to this off the bat we can settle this, if not you'll both need to decide on an arbitrator to settle things in more detail. 20:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I don't know who this person is. I would like an apology (but I doubt I will get that). So, if there is a way to stop this person from harassing me any further, that would be acceptable to me. P.S. I never left any messages on this person's page. And it seems that they just revel in abusing new people and I'm just a new target. Seems to me the kind of person that likes to pull the legs off spiders. I'm a woman, by the way. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Peace on Earth and Goodwill toward men and women.--Taco2 20:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, happy new year and all that. If you wish to have him barred from your talk page, then this is the place to do so. I offer to arbitrate in this case.-- Adward  21:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to Arbitrate. personally, I'd recommend Mis, because he's been going along with this case, but he isn't on the list of arbies, so he may not want to. I also doubt Iscariot will let him.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I believe I'll take a page from MisterGame's play book and not accept Mis, Drawde or Yonnua as arbitrator. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 22:24, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great idea, works too, at least you eventually gave up out of an obvious disinterest. This case isn't necessary anyways, unless you somehow have the need to continue to contact her (don't). --Thadeous Oakley 22:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I hate everyone and would LOVE for a few people needing arbies to pick me, as no one ever does. PLEASE PICK ME GUYS I KNOW THE DAMN TALK PAGE RULES AND PRECEDENTS.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I reject you as arbitrator on grounds that you hate me. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I accept your rejection with a heavy heart and a sad soul.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 11:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I will also volunteer to arbitrate. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 06:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Me too, though I expect to witness the second coming of Christ, as an atheist, before Iscariot accepts me.--Thadeous Oakley 23:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have asked Taco2 about the continuation of this case. This to prevent this case to sit inactive for a month, as happened in the past. --Thadeous Oakley 23:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate. -- Cheese 23:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate as well. Also, I suggest that if both parties agree to arbitration but refuse to select an arbitrator in a timely manner, an arbitrator should be chosen by an uninvolved sysop from among the many users who have already volunteered. Arbitration shouldn't be circumvented by a staunch refusal by either party to select a willing and qualified candidate for arbitration.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 19:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

It's been done before, unfortunately, there's no policy against it. However, I think there may be precedent for a representative to be chosen for a party that is not cooperating, but I haven't found a case in particular that uses this measure. That said, the whole point of arbitration is for two upset parties to settle their differenes, not for punishments to be handed down. It's a mediation tribunal, not a courtroom. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Wow, iscariot can be an asshole even towards wikinewbies... congratulations, mate. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 23:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

"Even"? Flaming newbies is what an Iscariot does best. Cyberbob  Talk  00:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Read some of Taco2's history guys, Iscariot's hostility isn't entirely undeserved (although she did overreact.) On this note it's been more then two weeks since this thing got started, so unless Taco2 or Iscariot want this to continue it, I'll archive it in a couple of days. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:57, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so saying (and I quote) "Why don't you take a flying f*** off a bridge?" is an acceptable way to speak to someone who is new to these forums? I don't think that anybody at all deserves to be spoken to that way, especially by a senior member of this wiki. If Iscariot can't handle her frustration, she shouldn't have the responsibilities that she does. --Chekken 17:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but more and more it seems to be implied that Iscariot underwent a sex-change. Can anyone confirm this allegation? --Thadeous Oakley 18:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

But this is not the way to respond to someone who was being quite helpful. I agree that Iscariot overreacted, but his reaction wasn't unwarranted, like some are implying. And Iscariot doesn't have any responsibilities. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I apologize. I saw someone else write that Iscariot is a "she" and so I assumed (erroneously) that he was a she. Dude, looks like a lady. --Chekken 05:20, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Clearly, it's because there are No girls on the internet. ;] -- Adward  17:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I just realized that this arby case has been open since December with absolutely no activity from either Iscariot or Taco. Is it common for cases to be held up this much? Chex 06:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration Cases in Progress

Active cases

Lelouch vs Zombie Lord

Involved Users	Lelouch vs. Zombie Lord
Arbitrator	SA
Created	00:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC) by Lelouch
Status	Ongoing
Summary	Dispute over Developing Suggestions

Recently Concluded cases

Zombie Lord vs Bob Boberton

Involved Users	Zombie Lord vs. Bob Boberton
Arbitrator	Yonnua Koponen
Created	23:04, 1 January 2010 (UTC) by Yonnua Koponen
Status	Completed.
Summary	Zombie Lord wants Bob to stop commenting on his DS suggestions.

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