Suggestion:20071109 Buckshot Pistol Ammo

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20071109 Buckshot Pistol Ammo

Treviabot92 02:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Ammo

Suggestion scope
Pistols with shotgun-ish shooting

Suggestion description
I've been to gunstores and I see hollow pistol rounds with little BBs inside. I'd like to get clips like that in this game. I'm thinking that it could do 6 or 7 damage, since buckshot can be dangerous to the victim, compared to a single bullet. For that kind of ammo, it has the same chance of you finding a normal clip, because normal clips are sold in the same place. Also, it'd be found everywhere normal clips are found.

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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep - Just 'cause I'm the only one. -J. A. 03:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - So you are saying I can find better ammo as often as normal, and anywhere where normal ammo is found? This is gonna go down fast. Try limiting it to one place next time you submit a suggestion. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 02:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Kill - Duxie's got a good point.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
3. Kill -- First of all next time you go take a look at those BB's they are tiny no where near capable of that kind of damage. I've seen them fail at killing birds and you expect them to do more damage than a regular pistol round? This would be useless
4. Kill - Just refine it a bit more, don't make one item absolite for another--Zach016 02:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
5. Kill/Change- As above. Also, you might want to add that pistols loaded with Buckshot are displayed separately in the inventory and in the attack drop-down box from regularly loaded pistols. --Darth Lumis^{T! A! E! FU! U} 02:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
6. No - The only real change you're suggesting is more damage per pistol shot... I don't think that alone is worth a game balance change. There has to be some kind of a drawback, something to make the old ammo not worthless. --Uncle Bill 03:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

   Reduced accuracy maybe? --Darth Lumis^{T! A! E! FU! U} 03:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Non author RE struck. Sockem 04:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

7. Kill I like the idea of doing bonus damage, but when I take a look from my target's perspective... Let's look at my inventory for a moment. 9 Pistols. *6 Bullets Ea. *6.5 average damage w/ proposed change. *65% Accuracy (.65). That's 228.15 DMG, instead of 175.5 (~23% increase to Damage).. I like the idea of being able to kill more people with my current inventory! *Psychotic, trigger-happy gun-nut look flashes across his face, but leaves before you are sure it was really there* ~A`Blue`Jelly^TME*V*I*L*_? 04:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
8. Kill - Sorry, it's almost impossible to add any significant game mechanics as it's likely to unbalance the game without a lot of thought put into it. Not a bad idea, but you might want to refine it a bit more. Take it to Talk:Suggestions--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
9. Kill - Guns are already powerful enougth. also, lets not get too much into detail about the types of ammo, or types of guns used. All I realy want to know is that its a gun, and it shoots people, anything else is kinda boring.--Seventythree^Talk 11:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
10. Kill - The suggestion needs to be worked out more, and the people who frequent Talk:Suggestions can help you out. --Z. slay3r •  Talk  14:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
11. Kill - Help, Developing and Editing - Go to it, make it your friend --Ryiis 15:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
12. Kill Yourself. - Pardus 16:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
13. Kill - incomplete suggestion --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 18:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
14. Kill - But it's not spam... BoboTalkClown 21:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
15. Kill- Shotgun+pistol="Shotstol"? No way. This will effectively nerf my Pancor Jackhammer auto shotgun into nothing. Don't integrate weapons.--31337roxxor 01:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam – Nubis ^NWO 03:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Spam - No Guns, also overpowered. --Karek^maps?! 03:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
3. Spam I knew it. Put {{Removed}} at the top and take it to Talk:Suggestions to get some help on developing this, please, and any future suggestions- saves everyone effort and keeps you away from the jackals out in the actual suggestions page.  Nalikill  ^{TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI}  03:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
4. Spam - GRRR I hate spam. Sockem 04:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
5. WTFCENTAURNINJAPIRATES - Twice as much ammo finding and more damage? That's really balanced.Studoku 08:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
6. Spam - I don't really want to offend you - because you like browsing for ammo - but this suggestion is not balanced. --Funt Solo ^QT 08:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
7. Spam - Let me see... Incomplete suggestion (Dont give options), immense buff to guns in both damage AND ammo availability (You are essentially proposing making ammo twice as easy to find). Just thinking that it would be cool to have doesnt mean you can bypass even the most basic of attempts to balance the concept. Ive seen permadeath suggestions more balanced than this load of tripe. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 09:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
8. Spam - what is this all about? buff the thing with no consequences? sheesh --~~~~ [talk] 10:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
9. Spam - Great suggestion!! Make every other weapon totally obsolete, wonderful idea. Also, as per 73, --WanYao 12:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

   Spam - What the fuck? --The Hierophant 13:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Improperly signed. --Z. slay3r •  Talk  14:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

10. Spam - one-sided. Zombies are players too, and this would be unfair on them. --Pavluk ^{A! E!} 17:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
11. Spam - Jesus wept. Isn't it time to apply the Spam template? --Steakfish 02:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
12. Spam - what the hell is this shit --Druuuuu 21:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
13. Oh boy...a M-16! Wait a minute...it's a beebee gun... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
14. Spam - The good old "super-pistol" suggestion still isn't dead after all this time? You know how long I/we've been fighting crap like this? Please take care to consider the effects and side-effects of your suggestion before suggesting it. Super-pistols OR doubling pistol ammo are bad enough on their own, no need to regroup them together. Not to mention you add ammo complexity with no real benefit to the game, only drawbacks--Grognor 04:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
15. Spupe - just about everyhting is wrong with it The man 20:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
16. Spam Just another suggestion that renders shotguns pointless. Besides, buckshot for pistols is normally so small that it'd be relatively ineffective against anything larger than a hare. AllStarZ 06:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)