Suggestion:20080331 Zombies listening to Radio?

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Zombies listening to Radio?

by --Danny lee 02:01, 31 March 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type

Minor game play tweak

Suggestion scope:

Zombies

Suggestion description:

Its really simple. When zombies have radio transmitters in their inventory, and something is broadcasted on that channel, zombies should not be able to see the broadcasted message.

The reasoning behind this is that since zombies are mindless creatures shambling around, have no reasoning capacity and no abillity for language, they should not understand if a message said "Raymond NT of up!" or something like that. However, since the zombies' players have reasoning abillities (to a varying degree), the message should not be viewable for the zombies' players to simulate the zombies' inabillity to understand the message spoken over radio. This also makes the radio just a bit safer for survivors when spreading info.

Voting Section

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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep. Author Vote. It adds realism, and also a really,really minor survivor buff. Danny lee 02:05, 31 March 2008 (BST)
2. Keep - Realistic. --Pgunn 08:16, 31 March 2008 (BST)
3. Keep Ignoring the parade of zombies jihadists... --TerminalFailure 23:29, 31 March 2008 (BST)
4. Keep - Why; it's as Pgunn said it's realistic, from all the kills it would seem most of the people on the wiki like playing zeds more and hate suggestion that help survivors.--Jamie Cantwel3 05:16, 1 April 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill This would a huge advantage for the survivors. Who is to say the zombies can't understand what is said over the radio? There are plenty of zed flicks where Zombies have some reasoning ability. They actually talk on the radio in both ROTNOTLD part 1&2--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 02:06, 31 March 2008 (BST)
2. Kill Not that it's a bad suggestion (I disagree with the above kill), but when I'm a zombie, I usually have a radio turned to 28.01, and I have to say I enjoy the messages. I'm just not sure I want to give that up. » JS talk contribs » 02:08, 31 March 2008 (BST)
3. Kill - I highly dislike this suggestion. --The Gecko PKer 02:20, 31 March 2008 (BST)
4. Kill - Zeds can understand speech when they are in the same location as a talking survivor - why not radio messages? - Sanpedro 02:41, 31 March 2008 (BST)
5. Kill - As.... everyone else. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:47, 31 March 2008 (BST)
6. Kill - As San Pedro said. I strongly disagree that this would be an advantage for survivors, but I enjoy listening to comedic broadcasts when Im shambling around.--Dr Doom86 ^{T PSS} 03:18, 31 March 2008 (BST)
7. Kill - Would make the game less fun for zeds.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  03:35, 31 March 2008 (BST)
8. Weak Kill - Change it so that whatever they hear over the radio is translated into Death Rattle-speak and I'll vote keep; if they can't speak the full alphabet let's assume they can't hear the whole alphabet either. --Shigogouhou 04:42, 31 March 2008 (BST)
9. Kill - This is most certainly not minor! If zombie's ability to understand radio were to be removed, then it would stand to reason that the ability to understand standard speech would be removed as well. It just doesn't make sense. Why would zombies mimic human speech through death rattle if they could understand it? --_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 06:46, 31 March 2008 (BST)
10. Kill If zombies can understand human speech face to face (which this suggestion does not alter) they could understand it over a radio. This also nerfs SURVIVORS, because many "zombies" are just survivors who haven't yet been revived and stood up. They might want to get thier messages. Hell, radio messages are one of the few action reports you get after being KILLED... and I like it that way, because it makes catching all the EMR's possible.  Swiers 08:49, 31 March 2008 (BST)
11. kill - i just cant get behind this one sorry --Scotw 09:12, 31 March 2008 (BST)
12. kill/change remake with new zombie skill which allows to understand speach, but as a zombie without said skill all radio broadcast should be translated into zombiespeach.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 10:10, 31 March 2008 (BST)
13. kill - just cos I don't like spam. -- TheDavibob ^T 10:48, 31 March 2008 (BST)
14. Kill - As above, not as below because I don't like spam.--Studoku ^W! 11:28, 31 March 2008 (BST)
15. Kill - As Frozen Flame and some others above -- 
    •  Nevin McAvoy 
    •  (talk) 
    16:44, 31 March 2008 (BST)
16. Kill - As above. --ZsL 17:38, 31 March 2008 (BST)
17. Kill - I have never liked zombies eavesdropping on public channels, but this is not the way to get their rotten ears out of survivor conversations. --Vandurn 21:45, 31 March 2008 (BST)
18. Kill - some zedz use the military frequencies a lot as well as when they are dead and looking for a revive. If anything I believe a zed should be able to speak down the radio if they have Death Rattle, a nice radio message then "BARAH!" down a quiet radio frequency would just bring it home a little. Acoustic Pie 23:06, 31 March 2008 (BST)
19. Radios are only minimally useful in some ways. I think of it this way: The survivor has a radio on when he dies. When he stands as a zombie, the radio is still on since the zombie can't turn it off. Thus he's not REALLY listening, its just giving off the messages uncontrolled. Now, maybe, I could see having a zombie need MoL to understand the messages, but I see nothing wrong with how it currently works, as far as the suggestion goes.--Pesatyel 05:07, 1 April 2008 (BST)
20. Kill - Too overpowered. If survivors want to be stupid with their radio broadcasts, let them.-- Nitro378 05:43, 1 April 2008 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - No Spams Yet? Wow.... well this is just a bad Idea, and in no way fixable (that is how I reason spam, Kill= Has a chance at being a decent suggestion, Spam = Has no chance at being anything but pointless, stupid, overpowered, etc.), this would be a pretty reasonable size survivor buff too... although most of you don't realize it, a lot of ferals use the radio to find good targets (ala "ZOMG! A ZOMBI GOTZ InTO TEH HOSP1TAL! CADE BE4 TEH 40 SERVIVERZ GET KILLD!")--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:52, 31 March 2008 (BST)
2. Spam - they don't see it. they hear it making noises in their pockets --~~~~ [talk] 08:16, 31 March 2008 (BST)
3. Spam - This is not minor. And... "zombies are mindless creatures shambling around, have no reasoning capacity and no abillity for language" AHEM, WTF??? Pull your head out of your trenchcoat and look around. Zombies talk, they coordinate, they are not stupid. Death Rattle, heard of it? This suggestion is not only offensive, but it's broken and contrary to the spirit and actual mechanics of the game. Spam. --WanYao 09:57, 31 March 2008 (BST)
4. SPAMMMMMMMM - MEMORIES OF LIFE FTW! Holy mother of whatever rock you crawled out from, there are skill trees dedicated to replicating survivor stuff. Thanks for your time, I want these three minutes of my life back! - Bisfan 10:05, 31 March 2008 (BST)
5. Spamwich! - Wow, this is a completely and utterly ridiculous suggestion. I believe I have lost valuable minutes of my life, as well as some IQ points from reading this! Zombies can walk, open doors, eat and DIGEST FOOD. They are complicated beings who are capable of talking, even if their speech is limited. How can you suggest this? Why not add "can't do anything, can't even hear survivors" too? It is ridiculous and definitely not minor. Such a suggestion, if implemented, would completely change the game... in favour of the survivors, since then zombies would stop existing. Since, you know, they're dead. - S Aline 10:16, 31 March 2008 (BST)
6. Spam - Just terrible --Druuuuu ^OcTRR 02:19, 1 April 2008 (BST)
7. Spam - This suggestion sucks. --The Hierophant 04:45, 1 April 2008 (BST)
8. Spam/Dupe - Wow. Not only do you have one of the lamest suggestions that has been suggested repeatedly since radios were introduced you also managed to work in a little snarky comment about zombie players. Why don't I do you a favor and go ahead and vote Spam on all of the next logical brilliant suggestions you will probably have: Zombies can't read signs, Zombies can't see more than the square they are in, Zombies can't understand gestures or speech, and Zombies can't attack survivors because they are like animals and afraid of humans. --DCC 05:48, 1 April 2008 (BST)
9. Spam - zombies are also players not npcs, they shouldn't be needlessly restricted from gameplay elements, anytime you want to remember that go ahead. --mindless and shambling Riseabove 07:07, 1 April 2008 (BST)