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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.
#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)
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=Nominations for Historical Status=
=Nominations for Historical Status=
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page.  
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.


==New Nominations==
=New Nominations=
===[[(To The) Four Winds]]===  
''Place new nominations for voting here.''
The group has officially disbanded after losing its fight against dwindling numbers and the shock and void left by the death of the well-loved and highly active player behind Brother Angst. (To The) Four Winds was created in September 2006 as an entirely, totally, 100% mobile revive group, with no home suburb whatsoever. As far as I am aware, it was an entirely new concept at the time and we believe we were the first pro-survivor group to run from suburb to suburb managing revive points and helping local groups rebuild their homes. We somewhat set a model, with groups following suit later, such as the Dribbling Beavers detaching the mobile Bouncing Beavers during the Second Big Bash. We started by following the Big Bash step by step. At our best in late 2006, we were able to attend requests in 2 hours maximum time, despite being only 29. During the Second Big Bash, even with numbers no higher than 12 (and usually much less than that), we were quick, good and respected enough to feature, with others, in Uncle Zeddie’s “Radio Survivor” episode 31 (http://radiosurvivor.blogspot.com, “Darth Zeddie” episode, around min 2:10; March 31st 2008). We have now gone, but we think we set a premiere in a way of playing the game and we also changed the survivor’s mentality from deeply suburb rooted to more mobile minded; thus, for what I believe to be these main contributions to the game, I nominate the group for Historical status.


#'''Yes''' - Nominator's vote. Besides, I think being the first truly mobile reviver group is historical. --[[User:Aureus|Aureus]] 14:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
=Recent Nominations=
#'''For''' - The group's name still pops up in conversations now despite being a force so long ago. I'm for it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 15:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Definitely. I considered putting a survivor character in with you guys, but never had the organisation. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 16:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' - I've heard of you, you've been around a long time, and you have a legitimate claim to being historically significant.  Good luck!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 16:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No'''-[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 16:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#:glad to see you're not bitter that your zergling infestation has been rejected. :D --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 17:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Explanation done by those before me.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 17:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I love these guys. Getting behind the lines and dishing out needles while everyone else is pulling triggers and waving cocks? How dare you! --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 17:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' - Nice to have some legitimate claims come through occasionally. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' - Historical for the new ideas it supplied. --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Aye''' - For the above, as well as an impressive track record of going beyond the game. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 20:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''For''' - It's been a while since I heard the name, but as I remember it anyway means something.  Good luck with the historical status, though I'm pretty sure you won't need it :P [[User:RinKou|RinKou]] 21:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' - As Karloth --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 22:47, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Obviously. --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - They deserve it. --{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 23:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - This group definitely meets Historical Group criteria. --{{User:Another_alias/Signature}} 23:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' - -- The Rune Carver/ [[User:Hejsa|Hejsa]] 23:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Original, highly-skilled and contributors in major events. Good enough for my endorsement. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 23:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' --[[User:Paul Power|Paul Power]] 00:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 01:51, 12 December 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Sorry, not taking the claim that you created the mobile survivor group model seriously at all. Were you around these events? Yes, I vaguely remember you. Did you do anything in and of yourself to contribute, style or mould the game in a previously unknown way? Not that I can see. An old and well liked group you are, historical you are not. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 06:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yea''' I remember them. My non PKer alts have been revived by them numerous times. --{{User:Kelly_U/sig}} 09:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' Former member myself, I found there was no other group which implemented the reviving of the worst suburbs (in the fullest meaning of reviving, not only de-zombifying) better. We were known by many groups in many of the suburbs, we were there when it mattered. --[[User:Moran|Moran]] 12:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' Another former member who joined after being helped a lot by this group. --[[User:Enniskillen|Enniskillen]] 13:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' these guys were the real deal. fun to play with and fun to kill.----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 21:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''YES'''  I have seen your work. Cheers!--[[User:Roland|Roland]] 00:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' -[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 04:28, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' never heard of them --[[User:Athur birling|Athur birling]] 23:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - I've never seen you in-game, and only heard of your group from the wiki. --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 01:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - worked alongside you guys a couple of times years back. Great group [[User:Sanpedro|Sanpedro]] 02:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''yes/whatever''' - --[[User:Truezombieboy|Truezombieboy]] 08:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''YES''' _ One of the most effective mobile revive groups. Loved working with you guys!--[[User:Jim Bim|Jim Bim]] 11:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' Any group that even tries to suggest that survivors do more than polish guns behind EHB cades is game changing in my book. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


===[[Guardians of the YRC]]===
==[[Militant Order of Barhah]]==
I am nominating [[Guardians of the YRC]] for historical group status for the following reasons: it was mostly due to their contribution that Yagoton was one of the safest suburbs in Malton at that time. Also, they were the first group to [[Guardians of the YRC#Justice Denied... until you fill out form 117B in triplicate in the presence of a notary public|publicly protest against the RG]]. Lastly, the group founder, [[User:Gasbandit|Gasbanit]] brought Urbandead notoriety in the blogosphere.[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 13:51, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
The MOB defined [[Barhah#Controversy and Fundamentalis|Barhah Fundamentalism]] for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to [[River Tactics|fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind]]. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:
*Being [[Mayor]] of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
*Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
*Hosting [[Unofficial UD Forums#Barhah.com|barhah.com]], the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
*Making [[:Category:Related Games#Inspired by Urban Dead|Nexus War]], which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, [https://www.nexusclash.com/ Nexus Clash], is still entirely alive.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jorm Working for WikiMedia], where you may have seen him asking for donations.
The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Militant Order of Barhah vs Malton Mob|an arbitration case over the MOB redirect]]. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":
Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."
Hagnat further noted:
They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.
I submit the MOB for your consideration. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


#'''Against''' - Zergers get no recognition here. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 13:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
=== Yes ===
#'''Yes''' - For the reasons mentioned above.[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 13:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - Author vote. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Never heard of them, but a look over the page shows me I'm glad I haven't. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
#:They were active in 2006 and early 2007. [[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 15:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Against'''. having read the article linked from the groups talk page I don't know why we should be rewarding them for what they did. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' Jorm Made me do it. [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Zergers. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 15:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take).  No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. [[User:Liche|Liche]] ([[User talk:Liche|talk]]) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Oh, I say. Who were these fellows again? --{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 16:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''I guess so.''' ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - After a ''very'' interesting read, it has to be said, I can't find much that makes the group noteworthy other than it is built off Zerging. Which is bad. {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}16:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Against''' – Zergs Not Welcome. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 17:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''yes''' - i was told there would be chum. [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Strongly Against''' - Who?  And WTF?  Everyone should read <s> this</s> [[Talk:Guardians_of_the_YRC#The_End|the link here]].  Immature, selfish, clueless, not historical, not even a group.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
#:Yes, because giving it more links for Google to add to its rating is a good idea... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#::I didn't consider google.  I just thought it important for anyone voting to know the score.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::It's linked on their page, the guy's page and talk page and everywhere else he can. He's trying to push the rating up, might want to 'unlink' that bit of your post. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::[http://gasbandit.blogspot.com/2007/03/confessions-of-urban-dead-zerger.html This?] --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC
#::::Done.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 18:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::Fuck Google. Get a life. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 18:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Fuck Off''' --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 17:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Nay''' - Even when ignoring the self-admitted zerging, this group hasn't really made an impact or sufficiently contributed to Malton history.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - GTFO. --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 18:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - I never heard of them other then what i saw on the zerg list ;) --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 18:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - To quote C. Montgomery Burns, "Who the Hell are ''you''?" --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 19:51, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Nay''' - You shall not pass. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#:[http://www.argonautbookshop.com/images/No%20One%20Shall%20Pass.jpg On ne passe pas!]{{User:Rorybob/Sig}}21:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No Is''' for Niggers--{{User:WOOT/sig}} 21:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - <insert witty and mildly condescending remark here> --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - The only thing that I can recall about this group is zerg-related. --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 00:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Zergs. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 00:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I can't find any good zerg players in StarCraft anymore--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:[[Image:Emot-argh.gif]] {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:44, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:SA, we've talked about this before. Despite the fact that they both have a hive mind, the Zerg in StarCraft are not the same as the ones in Urban Dead. You really should know better by now. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::But, but.... <big><big><big>;_;</big></big></big>--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:<s>'''Against''' - Frankly I'm surprised anybody remembered this, much less considered it worthy of historical status.  The GoYRC, in the end, was nothing but smoke, mirrors and zerglings, propped up by multiple network connections and an overzealous wiki presence.  As I said in the post so graciously linked above, I never came back to UD, and I still take full (unapologetic) responsibility for my actions.  Nice to see the game is still suffering from the same brokeassedness it was when I turned down the dark path, though.  Reaffirms, in my mind, I did the right thing, have no regrets, and was also right not to "go straight" and keep playing with a new character.  Honestly, you guys can just delete the GoYRC page for all I care, but hey, Axel, thanks for the gesture.  If any of you are playing Warhammer Online on Gorfang, look me up.  I run a guild there, and I promise I'm not playing multiple accounts ;) --[[User:Gasbandit|Gasbandit]]<sup>([[User_talk:Gasbandit|Talk]] | [[Guardians of the YRC|GoYRC]])</sup></s> Invalid sig <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:57 5 December 2009 (BST)</small>
#::You're welcome, bro. You played an important part in UD history and I think everyone should acknowledge that.[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 08:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' too much suck.----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 02:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' Who the hell are they? --{{User:Kelly_U/sig}} 05:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Only [[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Disciples_of_Zeko|PK zergs]] get historical. Congrat's Yagoton, one more zerg group <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:57 5 December 2009 (BST)</small>
#:Why the apostrophe? [[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 08:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::''Congrat's'' is a contraction of the word ''congratulations'', the apostrophe replaces the missing letters <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:22 5 December 2009 (BST)</small>
#:::Congrats doesn't use an apostrophe; it's an exception to the rule. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 11:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::"Congrats" is slang, so it isn't an exception to the rule; it's an intentional, but common, departure from the rule. Technically, he's correct, since it ''is'' a contraction, but I've never seen it done that way. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::It's a sociologically-conceived exception :smug: {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 11:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::I've always been a bit of a prescriptivist when it comes to grammar, so long as it's not unwieldy. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::You do know spelling and grammar are two different things, right?[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 12:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::::Oh, explains why you're a nazi about one but you suck at the other. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 12:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::::You do know that contractions fall under the purview of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraction_(grammar) grammar], right? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 12:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::::Don't post. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:28, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::::Congratulations is plural, when shortening you do not add an apostrophe or it would indicate a possessive. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::::::It's only a plural when used as a noun; it is more commonly used as an interjection. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::::::Can everyone give it a fucking rest? Boxy was obviously wrong, the question is, why is everyone's attention being drawn to something so trivial when the user is just as bad at English as those he preaches against? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 12:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::::::::Irony is just a five letter word to you, isn't it? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::::::::'''Irony''' Def: ''Kind of iron like'' --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::::::::I invite you to explain why you are obeying these rules constitutes a difference with Cheese's rules explains the difference between what you're saying and precedence's example. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 12:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::::::::::::::Are you aware of how drunk I was when I wrote that? Jesus, I'm surprised I didn't accidentally stick it in an email to whoever the President was back then. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::::::::::So you keep professing; no fucking excuse. I am drunk off my tits right now and even the worst english-speaking noobs, when drunk, don't fail that incredibly hard. You aren't the english language incarnate. Deal with it, you fucking prig. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:::::::Well, I may, or may not have been wrong, but meh. I like using arn't instead of aren't as well, and people can usually understand what I'm writing regardless. Pity there's no talk page to this talk page really <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:08 5 December 2009 (BST)</small>
#::::::::Just pull a Karek and delete the entire convo! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#::He doesn't need a [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1618113&oldid=1618061 raeson]. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 09:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Who? --{{User:Ryanon/sig}}--15:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#:[[Guardians of the YRC|The Guardians of the YRC]]-[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 17:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Who? <!-- this reason is for "i've never heard of you, why are you historical" also you're a zerger --> --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 18:07, 5 December 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 20:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Zerg --[[User:KyleStyle|KyleStyle]] 20:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - what makes you historical. Weren't even good zergers ... Delusional maybe, then again I got you beat on that one. [[User:Matt Aries|Matt Aries]] 20:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' You are part of the games history even if it is just for zerging--[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 20:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Zergers are not historical.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Only ever heard of their zerging. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 12:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''For''' - If only because he wants to be Historical so badly that he deleted all the Yes votes. Good stuff. Also: My "For" means <b>"Against"</b>. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 04:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - I follow DT to the ends of the Earth. The flat ends. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 04:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
#:The earth isn't flat! You're silly. I like you. :3 --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 13:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Against''' - Because I want to join the hate train.  Whoo whoo! [[User:RinKou|RinKou]] 07:06, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''for'''- Please see DT's post!--[[User:Roland|Roland]] 00:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Against'''- Foolish group.--[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 14:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


==Recent Nominations==
=== No ===
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Assylum|Assylum]] - '''Ineligible''' and therefore '''Failed'''
 
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#The Church Of The Beyonder|The Church Of The Beyonder]] - '''Failed'''
With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion|change historical voting policy]] (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 
==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}
The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.
 
=== Yes ===
 
# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 
=== No ===
#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 
With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


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Latest revision as of 17:58, 26 June 2024

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

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Recent Nominations

Militant Order of Barhah

The MOB defined Barhah Fundamentalism for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:

  • Being Mayor of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
  • Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
  • Hosting barhah.com, the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
  • Making Nexus War, which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, Nexus Clash, is still entirely alive.
  • Working for WikiMedia, where you may have seen him asking for donations.

The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in an arbitration case over the MOB redirect. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob": 

Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."

Hagnat further noted: 

They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.

I submit the MOB for your consideration. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Yes - Author vote. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. —Aichon— 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Yes - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. -- Spiderzed▋ 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Yes Jorm Made me do it. RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take). No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. Liche (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  6. I guess so. ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  7. Yes DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  8. yes - i was told there would be chum. hajen (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  9. Yes Clayton Carmine (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

No

With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can change historical voting policy (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

East Becktown Defenders

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
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Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop us ☉ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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