Latest revision as of 17:58, 26 June 2024

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)

Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Place new nominations for voting here.

Recent Nominations

Militant Order of Barhah

The MOB defined Barhah Fundamentalism for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:

Being Mayor of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
Hosting barhah.com, the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
Making Nexus War, which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, Nexus Clash, is still entirely alive.
Working for WikiMedia, where you may have seen him asking for donations.

The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in an arbitration case over the MOB redirect. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":

Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."

Hagnat further noted:

They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.

I submit the MOB for your consideration. --VVV^RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes

Yes - Author vote. --VVV^RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. —Aich on— 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. -- Spiderzed ▋ 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes Jorm Made me do it. Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take). No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. Liche (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I guess so. ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
yes - i was told there would be chum. hajen (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes Clayton Carmine (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

No

With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can change historical voting policy (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

East Becktown Defenders

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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ ☉ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed ▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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 #Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
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-#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.
+#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
 #Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
 #Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
+#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)
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 =Nominations for Historical Status=
-When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page.
+When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.
-==New Nominations==
+=New Nominations=
+''Place new nominations for voting here.''
+=Recent Nominations=
-===[[Escape]]===
+==[[Militant Order of Barhah]]==
+The MOB defined [[Barhah#Controversy and Fundamentalis|Barhah Fundamentalism]] for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to [[River Tactics|fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind]]. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:
+*Being [[Mayor]] of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
+*Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
+*Hosting [[Unofficial UD Forums#Barhah.com|barhah.com]], the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
+*Making [[:Category:Related Games#Inspired by Urban Dead|Nexus War]], which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, [https://www.nexusclash.com/ Nexus Clash], is still entirely alive.
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jorm Working for WikiMedia], where you may have seen him asking for donations.
+The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Militant Order of Barhah vs Malton Mob|an arbitration case over the MOB redirect]]. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":
+ Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."
+Hagnat further noted:
+ They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.
+I submit the MOB for your consideration. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
+=== Yes ===
+# '''Yes''' - Author vote. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' Jorm Made me do it. [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take).  No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. [[User:Liche|Liche]] ([[User talk:Liche|talk]]) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
+#'''I guess so.''' ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
+#'''Yes''' {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
+#'''yes''' - i was told there would be chum. [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
+#'''Yes''' [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
+=== No ===
+With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion|change historical voting policy]] (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
+==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
 {{HistoricalVotingRules}}
-I was told I had to do this through here, but I'll keep it short. [[Escape]] is over - it was always designed to end on June 1, something that was heavily advertised throughout the duration of the movement. If you could pass me on this so I can go ahead and start writing my memoirs, I'd be most appreciative. -[[User:CaptainVideo|Captain Video]] 05:56, 3 June 2010 (BST)
+The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
+The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
+Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
+The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.
-====Yes (Escape)====
+=== Yes ===
-#'''Yes''' - Definitely one of the most interesting and highly publicised events in a looooooooong time. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:10, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Hell yes''' - Absolutely. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 06:22, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Oh, hell yes''' - Lots of publicity, huge turnout, unfortunate results. --[[User:TheBardofAwesome|TheBardofAwesome]] 06:41, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Same reasons as DDR. {{User:UnholyReign/Sig}} 06:52, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#:{{s|'''Yes''' - It was interesting and even though I did not participate, the numbers were large enough that it deserves a mention. --[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]}} <smalL> not signed properly --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:42, 3 June 2010 (BST)</small>
-#'''Yes''' - Most certainly. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 08:31, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes, yes and thrice yes''' - twas verily bloody good fun, m'lud. <span style="font-family: Segoe Script, Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.4em">[[User:Chief Seagull|<span style="color: green;">Chief&nbsp;Seagull</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chief Seagull|<small>squawk</small>]]</span> 09:04, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' Events do not need to be successful to be historical and anything that gathers that many brains into one big buffet most certainly counts as significant! --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 10:09, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#:<s>'''Incredibly Weak Yes''' - I'd prefer it to be a historical event, in all honesty, but I don't see why it can't be both (assuming someone makes a page for the event).--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 10:51, 3 June 2010 (BST)</s> Changin' mah vote.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:27, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Largest group on the stats page by far in a good while, lots of publicity, and clearly significant by the numbers that turned up on both sides --[[User:ORakoon|ORakoon]] 11:49, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Utter failure but a good try--{{User:Imthatguy/sig}} 12:44, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Weak Yes''' - Has been definitively the most significant event this year so far. (Of course, the opposition consists of the umpteenth Battle of Krinks and St. Aiden's zerg army trying to reclaim Ridleybank, so this isn't really a badge to be proud of.) --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 12:54, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - A historic fail, but historic none-the-less.  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 13:13, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - There's a blurred line between an event and a group that sets itself a time-limited objective/reason to exist/whatever, but this doesn't count against it as a historical group IMO. Escape had good flavour (lol), a new idea, a large following and a large zombie response. Historical. Yes. [[User:Garum|Garum]] 13:17, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Without a bloody doubt, Yes''' - The sheer momentum it picked up in such a short space of time, and given that it came from absolutely nothing in the first place, people are gonna remember this. Anyone who was there saw the numbers present, both inside and out after the zeds came. PK'ers came, BH'ers came... it was ''the'' place to be. And for a while, there was an atmosphere of excited hope buzzing around the place, something the game had been lacking for too long. F'kin yes man. GG Escape, GG. [[Image:Clap.gif]]  {{User:Kempy/sig}} 14:30, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' As Kempy. [[User:Oidar|Oidar]] 15:09, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' I don't see why not. As a group, the largest I have ever seen, by the way, it was one of the more bizarre moments of Urban Dead. It certainly deserves to be remembered, though perhaps under events as opposed to groups? --[[User:The Prophet of Life|The Prophet of Life]] 19:01, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - It deserves it. [[User:Mesousa|Mesousa]] 19:39, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Obviously. --[[User:Armpit Odor|<span style="color:red"><sup>A</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>O</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>R</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>D</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>M</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>O</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>P</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>R</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>I</sup><span style="color:green"><sub> ! </sub><span style="color:red"><sup>T</sup></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>]] 21:02, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Hell, I knew, without a doubt, that this would end in nothing but a complete and total zombie massacre, and yet there were enough people involved and enough interest raised that I lemminged right along. [[User:InvincibleZombie|InvincibleZombie]] 21:32, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Fo shizzle homey.  --{{User:Quentin Julius/Sig2}} 23:12, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''I am Captain Video, and I was torn limb from limb for my cause.''' And I suppose I'm allowed one vote; I just didn't want to be first. That would have been tacky. -[[User:CaptainVideo|Captain Video]] 05:03, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Got an old fart's attention :P --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 05:48, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Of course, not putting that event on Historical Page would be just insane. [[User:GoLookAndKill|GoLookAndKill]] <sup><u>[[CFT]]</u></sup> 10:28, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - I see the point with event rather than group, but [[On_Strike]] is a historical group, thus Escape fits in this category as well. --[[User:Cruzz|Cruzz]] 12:05, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - Cruzz makes a good point--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 12:09, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - It made me play again, however shortly. I've been getting a lot of game news through a friend in my hangout channel over the years, this was the first that made me want to return and be part of something, even if it failed miserably. &rarr; So pretty much what DDR said. [[User:Pinkgothic|pinkgothic]] 13:40, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - I had fun attempting to escape from Malton, it got me more interested in this game. It also got me eaten. It should definetly be a historical group. --{{User:Drunk_Link2500/sig}} 14:37, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - It should remind us that bad ideas have bad endings. --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 18:58, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - pretty epic stuff--{{User:Rictor_Stilwell/sig}} 03:35, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - It was a ton of fun and quite memorable. They came, we saw, we conquered. ^_^ --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 03:38, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''yes please!''' it actually gave me a reason for playing this game. Even if it ended in a massive bloodshed with dead bodies piled up to the ceiling, it still rocked :) --{{User:Jack_Kolt/Sig}} 05:34, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''YES''' - A great group with potential to perhaps one day change the game? --[[User:JohnGGeo|JohnGGeo]] 05:42, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - Great event, really shows how fun it can be when heaps of people are together. --[[User:Dorsalus|Dorsalus]] 08:39, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - We finally did something different! We tried to Escape the game. Even though it didn't work and our dreams were crushed. --[[User:FallUpStairs|FallUpStairs]] 13:07, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Yes''' - --{{User:Jordan Salafack/sig}} 15:31, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - It might not have been successful, but the effort, the fun idea and the number of people involved reminded me of the good old mass events we had when last I played, back in '06. [[User:Furniture|Furniture]] 17:27, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - Of course this was one of the biggest things that I have seen in my whole time playing.--[[User:Sybertronic|Sybertronic]] 20:22, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - Epic Fail, but was worth it.[[User:Noxaarmi|Noxaarmi]] 20:43, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - Yes, it was a imaginative effort to do something new and fun in the game, and in that it was a big success. [[User:Marcel Swann|Marcel Swann]] 22:54, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - It put some life back into the game and it was fun, I am for making it a historical event just for that reason.--[[User:Truezombieboy|Truezombieboy]] 05:02, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-# '''Yes''' - Although the coordination was pathetic, and many were slaughtered, it was an excellent group and event. In little over a month, this group was able to gain 400+ members. It's double the size of RRF, but only ran up until June 1st. Even though nothing was accomplished, either because the zombies had overtaken Ellicott or because Kevan didn't care, its a historic group nonetheless.--[[User:SykoKiller666|SykoKiller666]] 14:50, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-====No (Escape)====
-#'''Why?''' - I'm leaning towards a yes for the reasons DDR mentioned, but aside from being highly publicised I'm not really seeing any effects from the event. You know, aside from a whole lot of zombies in one place, which was funny as hell. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:39, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#:I understand your point, but events this big are few and far between nowadays. In fact, that's an understatement, since as far as I know, this is the largest gathering of people I've heard of in two years, since [[March of The Dead]] and the apparent [[Battle of Barhapolis]]. In a game where numbers are declining and group actions en masse aren't as spectacular (particular in roleplaying value), I found this thrilling and exciting. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 07:30, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#::Your word: event. This ''group'' was less than impressive and failed to change anything about the way the game was played. The ''event'' they were at was much bigger than just their group, which is what makes the event historical, even though the group is not. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:33, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#:::Personally I think the exact opposite. As an event it was shit, I just sat there and listened to spam and then got PK'd and died. The group is what was original. Now we are just butting heads about opinions though so let's agree to disagree since we've both made points for and against yeah? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:36, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#::::I can agree to that. I think I viewed the event differently since I was on the outside looking in, rather than the inside looking out, as you were. For us zombies, this was the best eating we've had in awhile, and the most fun too, since almost all of the big groups showed up in force. Lots of joint strike operations and the like make for lots of fun. :) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:41, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No/Abstain''' - It's absolutely a historical group/event, but I'd like to see something on the page which details what happened.  Now that the 1st and 2nd have come and gone, perhaps some of the people who participated can write up a little "post-event analysis".  Then I'll happily vote yes.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 09:03, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - I feel that the ''event'' was HUGELY significant and should definitely be considered historical (see [[:Category_talk:Historical_Events|here]]), but the group itself failed to change the game at all and didn't do anything of significance aside from get together in one place and get themselves (along with everyone and everything else in a 10 block radius) killed by hungry zombies. Had they actually succeeded at their objectives, possibly even their secondary one of committing mass suicide by jumping, I might change my mind, but they didn't. Also, with 414 members still active in the group, that makes it far and away the largest in the game right now, so I think it's still too early to consider the group beyond the point of actively contributing (as the rules at the top of this page require). I know that's a bit of a technicality, but it's just one reason for my vote amongst several. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:25, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#:Typically groups made for a one-time purpose go into historical groups not events. Eg. [[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Blackmore_Bastard_Brigade|BBB]], and more likening to Escape itself, [[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Pre_voting_Historical_Groups|On strike]]. Just like Big Bash (which didn't really "change the game" besides be a horde but is still with my former examples in Historical Groups category), it's just the thing we do, I guess. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:32, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#::But if it's an event, then we avoid No Escape requesting the same thing. They'd both be pinned down under the same name.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:33, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#:::On Strike actually succeeded though, and as I said, had Escape succeeded, I may have changed my vote (likely would have). As for likening it to other events, why not the famous sieges and the like that are mentioned over [[:Category_talk:Historical_Events|here]]? This was essentially the biggest and shortest siege in recent history, after all. Yonnua also makes a good point about it covering all of the groups if it's an event. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:36, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - Like my vote up there in the yes column says, it was very weak, and Aichon's changed my mind. As Aichon, and as I said before, but with much more frowny-face. >:( --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:28, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - This seems more like an event to me, and didn't actually change anything within the game. I supported the effort, but I don't think it deserves enshrinement like this given its eventual lack of any impact. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 15:24, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Hahahahahahahaha! Oh, wait. You're serious? Let me laugh harder. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!''' -  They didn't do shit other than get trolled to death. And they certainly didn't accomplish anything. And like Aichon said, the event might be historical, but the group isn't. The group is just a footnote on the event's historical page in my opinion. - {{User:Goribus/Sig}} 21:23, 3 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - Event, yes. Group, no. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 00:28, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Event''' - I worry that No Escape will be left out otherwise, and they played a big role. Besides, I infected DDR, one of the most eventful attacks of my career. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:29, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Fuck no''' - As a group, their only virtue was numbers. They did everything that a group could do wrong and that's including them not achieving their stated goals. The amount of fail in Escape as a group is immeasurable with currently manufactured equipment. As a historical event? I'd give it a second thought before voting "no" again. I'm not knocking it as something fun, just on every other possible level. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 05:51, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''Fuck No''' – As [[User:JohnnyBass|JB]], [[User:Aichon|Aich']], [[User:The Hierophant|Moloch]]. <small>(See also: Bandwagon? <tt>:P</tt>)</small> {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:07, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''triple massive fuck no''' as above. since when do we reward massive fail? maybe as an event. this needs to be forgotten.----[[User:Sexualharrison|sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 17:51, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - Escape as a group failed as already mentioned, all they had were numbers and an idea. A huge part of what made the event fun was the zombies and PKers who showed up, and they are given little mention on the Escape group page. You're glorifying the failing element of a much larger thing. Make an event page, tell of all who were there and all that happened. --{{User:N0RDAK/Sig}} 18:06, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - As Moloch! --[[User:Akbar|Akbar]] 18:23, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - If you actually went by the original intent of the Escape page, you should have walked away from the game as of June 2nd. Since you are here requesting that the page be put up for a historical group, it's obvious that you didn't quit the game. As such, we shouldn't reward a tantrum with Historical status. I did make [[Template:WaaEscape|a template]] for the occasion. Enjoy. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 19:40, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' for being one of the whiniest and zergiest "groups" since the Children of the Darque?  Bugger off--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 19:43, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' Massive incompetence and stupidity does not qualify a group for historical status. Even the event itself was ill conceived and not really all that significant. --[[User:Grogh|Grogh]] 22:41, 4 June 2010 (BST)
-#:[[FedCom:_Urban_Dead|Actually..]] - [[User:Whitehouse]] 11:48, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#::Haha  yeah, no reason to make '''another''' mistake! --[[User:Grogh|Grogh]] 02:35, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' It's all been said. The value was in the event, not the group. If we're going to recognise anything, we should recognise the correct thing. -- [[User:Bisfan|Bisfan]] 00:23, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' As Aichon [[Big Bash 3|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span>]] [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 08:53, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' - It's more of an event. The poor coordination showed by survivors lessened the feel of a "group". The arrival of Zombies and PKers from practically every big group in the game was what made it an event. Suggestion - Let's get a decent event page sorted.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 11:23, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#I'm pretty sure that it was stated on the [[Escape]] page that they weren't really a group. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 11:48, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' Akule is right on the spot. I say no, it's a historical event. -- I'm just adding on here because I don't know where else to say this :3 Something you guys should think about was this was <b>just a big fail bandwagon (Escape, I mean), everyone just went "baaa" and sheeped over to Ellicott Place Railway Station. It's no historic group</b> --{{User:Senergy/Sig}} 17:42, 5 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' It was a pretty large event but as a group Escape failed to accomplish anything whatsoever, unless you count being delicious. --[[User:Globule13|Globule13]] 02:33, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' No Escape ruined the group and prevented them reaching the stated goal. If No Escape didn't be ignorant dicks, they probably would of reach their goal. therefore, yes. No Escape should be "honored" for being the group that ruined it for everyone.--[[User:Lonercs|Lonercs]] 06:05, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-#:Could you be any more bitter? The break in that resulted in your downfall was 13 zombies, at first. 380 survivors failed to dump them. Any "ruining" is down to the failure of the survivors concerned. Not all of them, but the vast majority of them. And ignorant dicks? We just happen to go where the food is. :) --{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 12:54, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-#'''No''' Was less of a group and more of a hangout for people. Doesn't fit criteria. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 09:09, 6 June 2010 (BST)
-==Recent Nominations==
+# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Guardians of the YRC|Guardians of the YRC]] - '''Failed'''
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Assylum|Assylum]] - '''Ineligible''' and therefore '''Failed'''
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#The Church Of The Beyonder|The Church Of The Beyonder]] - '''Failed'''
+# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
+=== No ===
+#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
+#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
+#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
+#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
+With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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