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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.
#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
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When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.


==New Nominations==
=New Nominations=
===[[Big Bash 3]]===
''Place new nominations for voting here.''
BB3. Many of you were fortunate enough to have been a part of it or taken apart by it. For those of you who were, there's no need to explain any of this stuff to you since you were there. You saw it. You felt it. For those that missed it, however, it was something '''<span style="font-size: 1.1em;">BIG</span>''', and it had a planned beginning and end.


'''Game Impact:''' We began in the wake of [[Escape]] on June 3rd of last year. BB3 started out in the southwest corner of Malton, did a giant [[Big_Bash_3/Location#Where_is_Big_Bash_3_right_now.3F|looparound the city]], had to pause periodically to let folks catch up since we were moving too fast, and finished things up [[Big_Bash_3/Location|4 months and a week later]] with dozens upon dozens of our tag-wearing group members descending on the historic [[Whetcombe_Park_%28Stanbury_Village%29|Whetcombe Park]], in tribute to those that went [[On Strike]]. During that time, we <s>ruined</s> partied in 48 suburbs, though we also ate the brains of dozens of other suburbs that were fortunate enough to be adjacent to those 48. We moved through suburbs so quickly that most survivors never even knew we were coming until their suburb was ruined, and though no official count was kept, it's probably safe to say that thousands, if not tens of thousands, of brains were eaten by our members in the four months we were active. Backing that up, the survivor to zombie ratio shifted from about 70:30 when we started, to more like 40:60 when we ended.
=Recent Nominations=


'''Community Impact:''' I believe that at our peak we were the largest organized group in the game, which is made all the more impressive by the fact that we had numerous other groups that joined us while keeping their own tags, plus a massive feral cloud that could be felt from suburbs away. A cloud so renowned, in fact, that more than once since we disbanded, many of us have heard the cry of an ignorant survivor as they declared, "Its [''sic''] Big Bash 3!" when a random zombie breached a building. It's happened so often, in fact, that the Philosophe Knights even [[:Image:BB3 spies.png|satirized the occurrence]] during a play they staged. The fact that the Malton Herald & Sun [[RRF/Malton_Herald_%26_Sun/Main1010|featured BB3]], coupled with the fact that we disbanded suddenly (but intentionally) while we were still the second largest organized group in the game probably led to the confusion.
==[[Militant Order of Barhah]]==
The MOB defined [[Barhah#Controversy and Fundamentalis|Barhah Fundamentalism]] for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to [[River Tactics|fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind]]. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:
*Being [[Mayor]] of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
*Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
*Hosting [[Unofficial UD Forums#Barhah.com|barhah.com]], the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
*Making [[:Category:Related Games#Inspired by Urban Dead|Nexus War]], which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, [https://www.nexusclash.com/ Nexus Clash], is still entirely alive.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jorm Working for WikiMedia], where you may have seen him asking for donations.
The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Militant Order of Barhah vs Malton Mob|an arbitration case over the MOB redirect]]. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":
Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."
Hagnat further noted:
They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.
I submit the MOB for your consideration. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


'''Strategic Impact:''' We advocated the use of [[Big_Bash_3/Attacking#Attack_windows|attack windows]] in addition to strike teams, which ensured that even without coordination and communication, we still struck as a horde. Tactics such as these are what led to a healthy Fort Creedy and Giddings Mall falling within hours of each other after we moved into the suburb. Having a horde didn't hurt either, of course.
=== Yes ===
# '''Yes''' - Author vote. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' Jorm Made me do it. [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take).  No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. [[User:Liche|Liche]] ([[User talk:Liche|talk]]) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''I guess so.''' ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''yes''' - i was told there would be chum. [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


'''Wiki Impact:''' Did I mention that we have a kick-ass group page? And that we had received over 3000 page views of ''a countdown'' we posted a week in advance of when we officially started? We were also the most-linked group page for most of our run.
=== No ===


'''Other Impact:''' BRA!NZ.
With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion|change historical voting policy]] (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


{{User:Aichon/Bsig}} 22:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
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====Yes====
The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
#'''Yes''' - The party may have ended, but we still have the memories, and there's no denying that we made a big impact while we were around. I've been waiting for the four-month inactive timer to finish up so I could finally post this, and today is the day. {{User:Aichon/Bsig}} 22:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
#'''Yes''' - If you want to talk about things with an impact in 2010, Big Bash should be ''high'' up on your list if you don't want to be laughed at. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
#'''Yes''' - Wow has it been four months already. I was there and it was indeed groundbreaking. Just look at the suburb map history for [[Suburb/History/201006|June]], [[Suburb/History/201007|July]], [[Suburb/History/201008|August]], and particularly [[Suburb/History/201009|September]] of 2010 and you'll see just what kind of impact was made. The group made a lasting impact on the game which lasted many, many weeks after (and to an extent before) the events. It was definitely historic. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 22:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.
#--{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I had fun! -- [[User:Bisfan|Bisfan]] 01:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


====No====
=== Yes ===
#'''No''' -Big Bash 3 was to Big Bash as Godfather 3 was to the Godfather.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 22:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''No''' I thought I'd be the only one. The Impact was much less than either of its predecessors and was nothing ''new''. (I can see why people would vote yes, but I've always fallen back on the question "Did they change the game?" when I vote. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:00, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#:I can see where you're coming from, but by your standard I don't think that we'll ever see any ''new'' groups enter the ranks of Historical Group, which isn't fair to those that are worthy of note. And if you're looking for game changing or new, it shifted the population balance drastically and introduced a new method of coordinating a feral horde that I have not heard of being used prior to it at this scale. As Spiderzed said, any mention of 2010 should include it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


===[[Big Survivors Little Survivor]]===
# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


Anyway, as unlikely to succeed as it is, I'd like to nominate [[Big Survivors Little Survivor]] for Historical status.  
=== No ===
#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)


You probably have no idea who they were. It's unsurprising.
With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 
To Paraphrase.
 
*'''BSLS''' were the first group of any description to be created in [[Borehamwood]].
 
*'''BSLS''' members hold the records for both "largest survived suicide repair in a perma death city." (350ap)  and "largest suicide repair ever attempted" [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:529_Repair_cost.PNG (529ap)]
 
*'''BSLS''' were the largest organised survivor group, before the meta combined all survivor groups into a single lump.
 
*'''BSLS''' helped implement the standardised 28.06 radio channel throughout borehamwood alongside [[Galaxy News Radio]]
 
*'''BSLS''' helped in the hunt for [[Game Over]] actively tracking Borehamwood's only publicised PK'er group. In the end we managed to wipe out their two leaders, whilst other survivors finished the job.
 
*'''BSLS''' had Borehamwood's only international celebrity, namely [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1387761| Dermot O'leary]. Famed throughout the city for his habit of suicide repairs without telling anyone.
 
*'''BSLS''' made up 5% of [[The Borehamwood 100]].
 
So what? I here you say. Did the BSLS do anything game changing or unique? Well I believe they did.
 
*'''BSLS''' helped discover, understand and fix the single most game breaking error in Urban Dead history, namely the free repair of all buildings with a repair cost of more than 150ap. Rather than exploit a bug that could of led to the reclamation of the entire ruined city in only a month and against the advice of some radical survivors, the Little Survivor's suspended all repairs, and [[User_talk:Kevan#Huge_Ruin_bug_could_leave_the_whole_of_Borehamwood_caded_in_less_than_a_month.|tried to stop the game from massively screwing zombies]]. As one member commented. "We've stayed ahead of the zombies so far, we don't need this."
 
And on a slightly more annoying note,
 
*'''BSLS''' were finally wiped out when [[User:Rosslessness]] requested Kevan bring snow to Urban dead. Less than a day later the last of the group was devoured by a feral who simply followed their footprints.
 
Which is why you now get....
 
*Although it's freezing in [[Monroeville]] and [[Borehamwood]], the snow isn't heavy enough to leave footprints there.
 
So there you go. I look forward to your, "WWWHHOOOOOOO?" comments. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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====Yes====
# '''Yes''' Obviously. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' but maybe have subcategories for the different cities. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:If there was more than one, then yes. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#::I see. Cross that bridge when you have more than one in Borehamwood/Monroeville?-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:It's been suggested in the past, pretty sure it was rejected because both those categories would be pretty much empty. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#I could vouch for this. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
# Who?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 17:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:You placed your vote in the wrong space >:P --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:: I do know who they are, but Ross said he was looking foreward to who comments :P --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Have missed Borehamwood, but even I have heard of some of their accomplishments before. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 17:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Aye''' - Who? Usually when I say who I go "Nay" but not here. Their accomplishments are quite impressive. I didn't play in Borehamwood, so I can't blame the group for not being known to me. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 18:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - may as well. <small>BTW Dermot's wasn't Borehamwood's only celeb [[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1387595]]</small> --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 19:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#What you mean it isn't historical yet? Something died inside me when I didn't get to kill Dermot--which feels well funny when you're already very dead. Make it so. And add the Monroeville Many, while you're at it. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 19:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#They were a seriously important group - I've heard alot about them, and I did very little in Borehamwood.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''yes''' but Zombie Davina does not approve of anyone else eating Dermot! --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 21:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - It's a bit of a case of a big fish in a small pond type of situation, as I see it. They might not have been anything special had they been in Malton, but in B-wood, they stood out from what I've heard, and really shaped and defined that city. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - BSLS are one of the few non-Malton groups to have had a significant impact on the wider game, and are responsible for one of the game's few truly iconic characters, too. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' as Thad. I didn't get into borehamwood, but those are impressive accomplishments. (maybe not so if they were in malton, but they weren't) --<span style="background:black; font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Thanatologist|<span style="color:gold">†hana†ologis†</span>]] [[User talk:Thanatologist|<span style="color:gold">(talk)</span>]]</span> 02:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' even if I didn't grab Dermot's sig when I had the chance.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 05:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#Pretty much as Aich. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' they played with a straight bat --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 15:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' -- <small>[[User:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]] [[Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_3|<span style="color: #FF9933">is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt.</span>]] </small> 15:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#: welcome back Rorybob!--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 18:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#[[User:Whitehouse]] 21:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 
====No====
#'''Meh''' - Being the first group in the city, if true, would be worthy if there were some separate category for borehamwood, but the rest looks like padding the resume - finding a bug, doing survivor things like working with other groups and repairing buildings, getting killed when zombies found the last member, etc.  This isn't to diminish the fun they had playing or the significance of the group in their own context, mainly I just can't get excited enough about a borehamwood group to put them on par with the historical entries from the main game.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 18:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#ah'''NO''' - it pains me to agree with giles.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 02:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#:Love you too sexy ;) --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 14:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Who?''' - As Giles. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 18:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Borehamwood, snorehamwood. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 22:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Nope''' --[[User:Efighter|Efighter]] 13:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''No''' As Giles and Papa [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''No''' Having a historical group from Borehamwood would be like giving an Emmy to someone in Joanie Loves Chachi. Spinoffs hardly ever work.  Unless its Golden Girls, which this is not.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 17:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 
==Recent Nominations==
*[[Category talk:Historical Groups/FailedArchive#The Grove|The Grove]] - '''Failed'''
*[[Category talk:Historical Groups/FailedArchive#The Penny Heights OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]] - '''Failed'''
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''


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Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Place new nominations for voting here.

Recent Nominations

Militant Order of Barhah

The MOB defined Barhah Fundamentalism for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:

  • Being Mayor of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
  • Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
  • Hosting barhah.com, the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
  • Making Nexus War, which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, Nexus Clash, is still entirely alive.
  • Working for WikiMedia, where you may have seen him asking for donations.

The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in an arbitration case over the MOB redirect. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob": 

Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."

Hagnat further noted: 

They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.

I submit the MOB for your consideration. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Yes - Author vote. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. —Aichon— 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Yes - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. -- Spiderzed▋ 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Yes Jorm Made me do it. RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take). No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. Liche (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  6. I guess so. ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  7. Yes DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  8. yes - i was told there would be chum. hajen (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  9. Yes Clayton Carmine (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

No

With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can change historical voting policy (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

East Becktown Defenders

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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop us ☉ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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