Latest revision as of 17:58, 26 June 2024

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)

Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Place new nominations for voting here.

Recent Nominations

Militant Order of Barhah

The MOB defined Barhah Fundamentalism for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:

Being Mayor of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
Hosting barhah.com, the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
Making Nexus War, which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, Nexus Clash, is still entirely alive.
Working for WikiMedia, where you may have seen him asking for donations.

The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in an arbitration case over the MOB redirect. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":

Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."

Hagnat further noted:

They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.

I submit the MOB for your consideration. --VVV^RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes

Yes - Author vote. --VVV^RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. —Aich on— 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. -- Spiderzed ▋ 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes Jorm Made me do it. Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take). No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. Liche (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I guess so. ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
yes - i was told there would be chum. hajen (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes Clayton Carmine (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

No

With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can change historical voting policy (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

East Becktown Defenders

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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ ☉ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes - Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed ▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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-#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, and have a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
+#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
 #Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
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 When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.
-==New Nominations==
+=New Nominations=
-===[[Red Rum]]===
+''Place new nominations for voting here.''
-{{HistoricalVotingRules}}
-Once the biggest ever group of murderers in this game, I had a ''lot'' of fun with these guys when we were shooting people <s>and each other</s> (I genuinely didn't expect to get shot by my own team quite so much, but it always made me laugh). Probably our most impressive stuff was when 10-30 of us would show up at once and kill everyone we could see, but my particularly favourite bits were the stupid things we did, like our Tea Party in the Blackmore Building. We combat revived the RRF holding the place, barricaded it up and then, when people started turning up proclaiming it was back in survivor hands, we shot them too. Hurray!
-Here's some of the stuff we did below, but there was also a lot of cool stuff with other groups, whether we helped organise it (like the [[St. Valentine's Cherubs]]) or just turned up to have some fun (too many [[PKA]] events to list!). Thanks for all the good times! --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 13:18, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+=Recent Nominations=
-'''Cool Events:''' [[Red_Rum/Tommy_Gun|Tommy Gun]] | [[Creedystock]] | [[Red Rum/The Great Military Biscuit War|The Great Military Biscuit War]] | [[Red Rum/Battle Royale|Battle Royale]] | [[Red Rum/Siege of Jerusalem|Siege of Jerusalem]] | [[Red_Rum/Dia_de_los_Muertos|Dia De Los Muertos]] | [[Red_Ranch|Red Ranch]] | [[Red_Rum/Hunting_Season|Hunting Season]] | [[Red_Rum/Vasectomy_Tour|Big Red Vasectomy Tour]]
+==[[Militant Order of Barhah]]==
+The MOB defined [[Barhah#Controversy and Fundamentalis|Barhah Fundamentalism]] for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to [[River Tactics|fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind]]. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:
+*Being [[Mayor]] of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
+*Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
+*Hosting [[Unofficial UD Forums#Barhah.com|barhah.com]], the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
+*Making [[:Category:Related Games#Inspired by Urban Dead|Nexus War]], which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, [https://www.nexusclash.com/ Nexus Clash], is still entirely alive.
+*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jorm Working for WikiMedia], where you may have seen him asking for donations.
+The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Militant Order of Barhah vs Malton Mob|an arbitration case over the MOB redirect]]. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":
+ Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."
+Hagnat further noted:
+ They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.
+I submit the MOB for your consideration. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
-'''Spinoff Stuff:''' [[Flat Earth Society]] | [[¯\(°_o)/¯]] | [[Daily Ruminations|The Daily Ruminations]] | [[PANCAKE]] | [[Scour the Earth]] |<br>[[Lord Curton's Gentlemen's Hunting Club]]
+=== Yes ===
+# '''Yes''' - Author vote. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
-====Yes====
+# '''Yes''' - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
-# '''Y'arrr''' - cheers to Beardo, Strata, DevilAsh, Revenant, Dancing Banana, Suburban Ed, GioV, Cypher, Goribus, Amber, Vis, binlaggin, Vandr, phozil, dipcup, shad, Genie, bluefish, turk and no doubt a whole load more people I've forgotten for all the awesome times! :D --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 13:24, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+# '''Yes''' - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
-# While their impact on the game as a whole may be perhaps up for discussion, they seemed to be a successful PK group back in the day. Well known by the public at large, while maintaining a style of their own that set them apart from the pack. Decent enough, so a yes. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  13:47, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+# '''Yes''' Jorm Made me do it. [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
-# my first Pker group. ah the wanderers. this makes me sad.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:53, 6 April 2012 </small>
+# '''Yes''' - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take).  No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. [[User:Liche|Liche]] ([[User talk:Liche|talk]]) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
-# Absolutely. I thank all of the guys that contributed (you know who you are) and disagree inherently with Thad, but don't want to poke too much fun out of him in case he bans me again. Much love to everyone, I have really enjoyed rolling with the biggest PKing group in UD for the past seven or eight (good lord, that long?) years. {{User:Ashley Valentine/sig}} 14:09, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+#'''I guess so.''' ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
-# makeitsomakeitsomakeitso {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:11, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+#'''Yes''' {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
-# What the hell? I go inactive for a few months and you guys go dead? Not cool. But your group was cool. And DEFINITELY historical. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:52, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+#'''yes''' - i was told there would be chum. [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
-#<nowiki>:(</nowiki> Karl forgot me--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 16:22, 6 April 2012 (BST)
+#'''Yes''' [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
-#Red Rum was for a very long time the very biggest PKer group - and that continuously, while most PKer groups tend to fade away as fast as they rise. If you even ''consider'' to vote "no", your perception is seriously weird. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 16:29, 6 April 2012 (BST)
-#: :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:05, 6 April 2012 (BST)
-#$50 says Skynet shows up to vote no on this. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 16:45, 6 April 2012 (BST)
-#:[http://iamscott.net/133377958222.html It seems you're still as active as ever.]. A bit plan hindering on my hunt for a certain imposter masquarading around as me, but you can make it up to me if you leave this Death Cultist here with an infection next time. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 07:25, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-# YES! [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:59, 6 April 2012 (BST)
-# Piling in. These guys were before my time, but it's obvious they made a major contribution to the art of PKing. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 20:00, 6 April 2012 (BST)
-# --[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 03:18, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-# Assuming that this is not another of their 'pranks', they should be passed into history without question. One of the game's defining groups. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 04:01, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-# Uhm, yeah. Even if they are still active I think that predating this one then adding it when they're gone is appropriate. There's only about 4 or 5 groups I'd say that for too. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:41, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-# --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 11:43, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-# This pack of lunatics unleashed a species of tongue-in-cheek madness that endlessly delighted everyone with a sense of humor and an appreciation for fine wine, and endlessly pissed off everyone who took the game too seriously. They are one of the few reasons this category exists. Bravo, Karl and company. Come visit me, or I shall cry. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 18:20, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-# The single most infamous PKer group in all of Malton. I don't care who you are or how new you are to the meta-game, you have heard of Red Rum. And most of you at some point have either joined us or been shot by us. Oh and Axe, I've been false flagging for awhile. I'm in Ed's Peasant Militia, I just didn't want to spoil the surprise for you lot. I've also been tagging up as 'Wanderer' for revives. I told the Militia I wasn't going to tag up until Red Rum it was put up for Historical. Go ahead and check my profile again. -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 19:19, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-====No====
+=== No ===
-#'''Nay''' - [[:Category:Historical_Groups|Criteria states]]: "''1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.''" I assume you guys are still together in game? Do you still want to edit the [[Red Rum]] page? If so, then you'll have to wait to get included as a Historical Group. Recall that [[The Dead]] had to make a [[The_Dead_2.0|new page]], rather than reopen the old one. Now, if Red Rum basically says: "Yeah, we're done." Then I will be willing to change my vote. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:03, 6 April 2012 (BST)
-#:Nah, we're done. We had a vote on it on the forums and everything. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 01:14, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-#::How long ago was it? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 08:10, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-#:::The thread to wind up Red Rum started in December 2011 - it's definitely not a snap decision! --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 10:35, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-#::::Yep, Red Rum has been planning this since December. The official announcement was on April 1st actually. Which everyone seems to have taken as a prank. Justasplanned.png -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 19:08, 7 April 2012 (BST)
-===[[Columbine Kids]]===
+With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion|change historical voting policy]] (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
-months have passed since [[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Columbine_Kids|the last nomination]], which furthermore failed by just one vote. I see it thus as justified to re-approach them and see how well their reputation has kept up.
+==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
+{{HistoricalVotingRules}}
-It has now been much more than a year that any Columbine Kids have been active, let alone orchestrated anything together.
+The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
+The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
-From their very founding day on, they have polarized the UD metagame, going even as far as getting the group [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/Aug_2007#Columbine_Kids|put up for deletion vote]] due to bad taste, or because no one thinks of the children, or whatever the reasoning was for those who voted for deletion. And it wasn't just at the beginning that they shocked and polarized the UD crowd, [[Talk:Columbine_Kids#I.27m_Disgusted|it even continued throughout their career]].
+Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
+The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.
-They have not just made impact by their concept, though. They were also effective PKers, racking up [http://rg.urbandead.net/profiles/view/754030 massive bounties], performing [http://iamscott.net/1271806991373.html highly coordinated timed strikes] and getting involved in events like the [[2008 Wedding Crash]] or [[Samhain Slaughter|Samhain Slaughter 1]] [[Samhain Slaughter 2|to]] [[Samhain Slaughter 3|3]]. You also mustn't forget their various school shooting tours they have organized and pulled off on their own.
-They were recognized in the [[Malton_Murder_Awards_MMX#Player-Killer_Awards|Malton Murder Awards 2010]] as nominee for Best PKer Group.
-Seriously, if you are involved in the PKer metagame at all, you have heard of them and their exploits. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
-====Yes====
+=== Yes ===
-#See above. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
-# --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 15:59, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
-#--{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 16:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
-#They was robbed last time. You all is just e-cock blockin'. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:57, 4 February 2012 (UTC)</sub>
-#--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>20:27, 4 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-#They're well known, have maintained mindshare over the last year, participated in a number of major events, and were effective in doing what they set out to do. They may not have pioneered new tactics or methods for PKing, but they did make a name for themselves, and it wasn't all just bluster. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:43, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
-#Yus! [[User:Petite Fille|Petite Fille]] 05:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
-# for what it's worth. I think they are a lot more valid for this than many/most of the groups that are already in the category --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 15:59, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
-# --[[User:ZombieDalkorian|ZombieDalkorian]] 19:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
-# I suspect that many people never payed attention to the in-game contributions of the CK, focusing mainly on the loldrama on their talk page and on their attitude out of game. My group may have been opposed to most of their antics, but they certainly had an impact on many major events, including getting several off the ground. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 20:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
-# Yes, I think they had a decent impact on PKing in general, and they made good use of the concept. --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 22:59, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
-# Yeah, everyone knows who they were, they had a sense of humor, and they killed a lot of people. Good enough for me.--[[User:Akbar|Akbar]] 02:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
-#Manson made me vote yes. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
-# If they were historic for the PKer community, I think it would marginalize PKers to think that that isn't sufficient for them to be historic. --{{User:Moctezuma/sig}} 05:17, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
-# It's possible that I may be biased... --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 11:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
-# Likewise with the biased, but frankly we kicked ass in an incredibly tasteless manner. :D --{{User:CyanEyed/Sig}} 21:53, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
-# Yeah, sure, why not? - [[User:Zombiegeorge|Zombiegeorge]] 13:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
-# <s>I missed the last vote and would have said yes then so I'm saying yes now.--[[User:Samhain Sam|Samhain Sam]] 17:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)</s>
-====No====
+# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-#As the previous bid's against votes. Too much of their value has been put into their apparent offensiveness, and otherwise they seem only successful, and neither of these points are enough to be entitled historical, or what should be called historical.  --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No, Same as last time wiki drama does not make you Historical. They were just your average PKers who only PKed nothing more. This does not make you Historical.--[[User:Josh Clark|Josh Clark]] 18:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-# They did nothing of note besides "participated" and "had a cool name." They just floated around like typical flotsam. Hardly standout. Frankly, these guys have done zilch to be considered anywhere near the same notability as groups like  Channel Four or the old FOD.--[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 01:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No, as Josh Clark. (There, I agreed with Josh for once!) They weren't historical last time this came up, and they've not become any more historical in the meantime.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 02:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-#No, while CK was a skilled collection of PKers and good fun to boot, I have to agree with AHLG.  Skilled? Yes. Historical?  Me thinks not. --[[User:Ciscokitty|Ciscokitty]] 03:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No,--[[User:Carrie Cutter|Carrie Cutter]] 03:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-# As one of the yes votes even indicates, they brought nothing new to the table other than wiki drama. Being coordinated and successful when other groups are out there doing the same thing does not put you on a timeline. The event participation just goes to say "and this group was also there" The school shooting tours would not seem enough to me to warrant the nod. {{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Sunday, 5 February 2012</sub>
+# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
-# Nope. They were notable, but not exceptional - not on a level with the other groups who are historical, and I'd prefer not to see the concept deleted by just including larger groups that hung around a while. --[[User:Rambo Ninja Spiderman|Rambo Ninja Spiderman]] 04:20, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
-# Nah, either your historical, or your not... repeatedly putting something up for historical seems a bit desperate. The consensus was no last time, so I'm gonna vote no this time.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 09:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
-#{{Squote|'''No''' - Very few pker groups do enough to be considered notable or historic. The only reason anyone knows who the Columbine Kids are is pretty much some very minor wiki drama. They're no Amish, Red Rum, or DEA. They didn't help make a huge event and the most you can even note them for in their nomination is as being a tag along? An Historic Group these things do not make.|[[User:Karek|myself last time around]]}}<br />  Nothing has changed except now even less people care about them. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
-#{{Squote|'''No''' - emphatically as Karek.|[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|myself last time around]]}} <br />{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No, their only notoriety is having a shock name and like ten year olds, they want attention for it. Their whining makes me even less inclined to vote for them. [[User:Herr Gerdongerdorf|Herr Gerdongerdorf]] 20:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No, I have no interest in seeing a group made historical for their impact on the metagame. -- {{User:RobOppenheimer/Sig}} 19:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No. As Anime and Karek. You're holding on to MMORPG accomplishments a little too tightly, brother. Let it go. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 18:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
-#No.  This group was not notable enough to warrant any further comment.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 06:10, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
+# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
-# No. Attention grabbing name, but not much substance. [[User:Jesussante|Jesus Sante]] <sup>[[CFT]]</sup> 18:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
-# No.  As Anime.  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
-# No. The group wasn't notable enough to be considered historic. [[User:Standard Zombie|Standard Zombie]] 22:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
-# No. Barely ever heard of them in-game. Also, per AHLG.-- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  23:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
-# '''No'''. Who? {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} <small>11:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
-# <s>NO for all the reasons above. [[User:Duck J|Duck J]] 17:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)</s>
-'''SWING AND A MISS!''' - Voting is over and the poll says "No". --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
+=== No ===
+#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
+#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
+#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
+#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
-==Recent Nominations==
+With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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-just a question why and how did the roftwood assault force become historical?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>04:16, 23 June 2011 (bst)</small>
-:[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Roftwood_Assault_Force|here's the vote]]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:45, 23 June 2011 (BST)
-::man did it squeak by. must have been when i was inactive for a few months.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>06:06, 23 June 2011 (bst)</small>

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