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| #'''Kill''' - As weird as it is, the current mechanics of free running in forts is the only interesting part of being in a fort. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 18:18, 28 August 2009 (BST) | | #'''Kill''' - As weird as it is, the current mechanics of free running in forts is the only interesting part of being in a fort. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 18:18, 28 August 2009 (BST) |
| #'''Kill''' - This skill is unnescary and takes away some of the fun in defending a fort.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:14, 28 August 2009 (BST) | | #'''Kill''' - This skill is unnescary and takes away some of the fun in defending a fort.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:14, 28 August 2009 (BST) |
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Revision as of 17:01, 30 August 2009
20090826 Escape Artist
BlueSpurt 00:01, 26 August 2009 (BST)
Suggestion type
Skill.
Suggestion scope
Survivors with the Free Running skill.
Suggestion description
A new skill that branches from the Free Running skill. It is called "Escape Artist". This skill can only function when the player with it is a survivor. With this skill purchased, Free Running into any fort square other than the gatehouse from outside the fort is now possible; moving to a fort square (other than the Gatehouse) when standing outside the fort is still not possible. Free Running out of the fort from any fort square is now possible, even if you are in the Gatehouse and it is heavily barricaded or greater.
Voting Section
Voting Rules
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Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped.
- # justification ~~~~
Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.
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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.
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Keep Votes
Kill Votes
- KILL IT! KILL IT! Forts are really difficult to get into/out of for good reason, making a skill that circumvents that makes them as effectively useless as wirecutters. Forts are difficult but rewarding structures, no making them easy access. You would have hundreds of campers 24/7 who would be effectively invincible because they can jump out, spray hot lead, jump back in and reload. Take it Developing suggestions it might be able to be refined there. EDIT: All forts are in zombie hands and there should be a spectacular battle to get them back not a campaign of hit and run tactics that the zombies can't fight back against. -Devorac 00:17, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - We should be making it as hard as possible for survivors to enter forts. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:22, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - Sorry bud, Devorac nailed it.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 00:47, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - As abuh-buh-buh-bove. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 00:52, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - The point of the guardhouse is that it can't ever be above VSB, otherwise the fort can't be entered. That's where all the fun in holding/sieging a fort is. Where's the fun in it if it's just a 3x3 block mall? RinKou 04:22, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - everyone else has preety mich nailed the point. User:Armpit_Odor/sig No timestamp -- Cheese 22:48, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - Escape artist should allow you to ESCAPE from forts, not break in... --Kamikazie-Bunny 15:35, 28 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - Nope --Sonofagun18 16:26, 28 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - As weird as it is, the current mechanics of free running in forts is the only interesting part of being in a fort. --Papa Johnny 18:18, 28 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - This skill is unnescary and takes away some of the fun in defending a fort.--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:14, 28 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill Forts have walls for a reason. --Brainguard 18:01, 30 August 2009 (BST)
Spam/Dupe Votes
- Pickled Onion flavour Spam - nerfs the whole point of forts, and has a really bad name. --Funt Solo QT 22:42, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Canned Spam Sorry, it's kind of weird. Nemesis645 08:58, 30 August 2009 (BST)
- Spam - removes the whole special mechanics of forts, that was put in place to make them challenging buildings to hold. With this change, they would become high level survivor strongholds, with the gatehouse always at EHB -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:26 30 August 2009 (BST)
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- Server Load and Programming Complexity are NOT very good Kill reasons. You are voting on the merit of the suggestion and whether or not you think it belongs in the game. Server load/complexity issues are up to Kevan to decide.
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VOTING EXAMPLES
Keep Votes
- Keep - I am the author and I am allowed to vote once on my own suggestions. --MrSuggester 05:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Keep - Best. Suggestion. Evar. --Bob_Zombie 04:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Keep - Good sugestion. no signature --FakeSuggester 07:39, 15 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Kill Votes
- Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Re - Please be more specific about how to fix it on the discussion page. --MrSuggester 14:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Kill - You will eat my poopie and love it! --PooEater 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Note - Inane vote removed. Defend in discussion. --DaModerator 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Spam/Dupe Votes
- Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Dupe - Duplicate Suggestion --AnotherSuggester 05:01, 14 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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