General Discussion

Move Bot Banning section down the page

Does anyone care if I move the Bot Banning section down the page so that it is underneath the normal reporting area. When it gets a bit long, it gets annoying scrolling down to the main reporting area. ~ _{16:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)}

I wouldn't mind and can see your reasoning. Just leave Template:VBarchivenav at the very bottom, so that it remains easy to be found. -- Spiderzed █ 16:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

K. I'll wait a little bit longer and do it tomorrow if there's no real objection. ~

_{16:43, 4 January 2012 (UTC)}

No objection. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 18:26, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

No objection.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 19:18, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Went ahead and moved it. ~ _{20:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)}

Objection on no grounds what so ever!--User:Sexualharrison23:27, 4 January 2012 (bst)

I OBJECT! No I don't really, at all. And that's what I have to add here. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:25, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

	OBJECTION!
	Vapor has an objection.

In before Axe Hack. ~

_{01:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)}

I'd be ok with removing it altogether from A/VB and replacing the section's contents with a soft redirect. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 17:40, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm all for that if you're on board now. ~

_{22:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)}

Vanished Comments

If anyone can get the right comments back please do. I don't have time to search them up but the histories are now merged. They're hidden in the revisions right now because of the re-merging of the A/VB pages. You'll only need to find the most recent revision of the A/VB talk comments. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 02:17, 16 May 2011 (BST)

I'm really not sure what happened to them. I believe it may have had something to do with when you moved A/VB to UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive1. It looks like discussion archives were created with the exact naming structure (see above) and probably when you moved the page you checked "move associated talk page" but when prompted you (wisely) told the wiki not to delete the existing discussion page. That's my best guess. Anyway, I can't find the comments and I don't really know what I'm looking for. They may be gone forever unless you can figure out how to dig them up yourself. ~

_{07:42, 9 July 2011 (UTC)}

I know where they are and how to get them it's just a time to do it issue. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 09:18, 9 July 2011 (BST)

Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)

Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, like acne. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

May 2012

User:Iamnotaporpoise

Seems to me that if we don't have a policy or precedent to do so, we shouldn't be banning people. It's fine if we decide that proxy usage should be bannable, but it isn't fair to ban people who couldn't have known it would get them banned at the time (obviously not talking about vandal alts who would be banned anyway).--Short round }.{ My Contributions 10:54, 1 May 2012 (BST)

Also, has anybody contacted the user to tell them not to use proxies?--Short round }.{ My Contributions 10:58, 1 May 2012 (BST)

I don't think anyone is talking about banning users using proxies. In cases where proxies are used to vandalize (sockpuppetry is a good example) its ban the proxy, warn the user. I think the current discussion is a push to consider all open proxy use vandalism. Honestly there are very few circumstances that I can think of where an open proxy could be used without the intent to conceal one's true identity. It is a question of whether that alone should be considered bad faith. Its a turbulent subject and if its to go forward in discussion, open proxies should be clearly defined and sysops who are unfamiliar with the differences would do well to stick with the old tried and true policy. ~

_{15:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)}

Well I used a proxy to access the wiki just the other day when I was having problems with my adblock. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for using proxies which all come down to accessing the wiki when you might not be able to (work, university, school, holidays, etc.) I don't think we should ever be denying users access if they aren't in some way hurting the wiki. Obviously we ban proxies as we learn about them to stop use by bots or vandal sprees, but if somebody just uses one when they need to get around some kind of system block then I don't see why they should be punished for using a device which wasn't already blocked from accessing the wiki.--Short round }.{ My Contributions 16:49, 1 May 2012 (BST)

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