Suggestion:20071030 AI Zombies

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20071030 AI Zombies

AndToGo 01:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Balance

Suggestion scope
Zombie numbers

Suggestion description
Currently, most people who play the game are survivors. Contrary to any good zombie fiction, the number of survivors is twice the number of zombies. In addition, the zombies in game are too intelligent, due to a human being behind all of them. So, to balance both of these issues, zombies ran by AI should also roam the streets. They would be unable to work with coordinated plans while making the game truer to zombie fiction by ensuring that a number of zombies would be almost everywhere. AI zombies would have few or no skills and do nothing but mindlessly shuffle towards and attack survivors. Player zombies would be able to distinguish AI zombies from player zombies with flavor text, but they'll all look the same to survivors. Inclusion of AI zombies would be better balanced, add depth and make the game truer to its sources.


Voting Section

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped.
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Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.

The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.


Keep Votes

  1. Keep - From Voting Rules: "Spam votes are not a "strong kill", they are simply here to prevent the utterly ridiculous from clogging up the system. If you do not like the idea, and it's not some crazy uber power or something else ridiculous, VOTE KILL, NOT SPAM." That said, this is a great idea. If you want to discuss this, the place for that is the discussion page, again according to Voting Rules: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suggestion_talk:20071030_AI_Zombies --Clay5x 03:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - I like it, but, be more specific. Plus, i'm stealing this suggestion to improve. BoboTalkClown 20:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


Kill Votes

  1. Kill - We don't need AI Zombies, the zombies themselves simply have to step up. Besides, AI Run zombies would probably be too easy to avoid and kill. --Private Mark 02:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  2. Kill - UD is supposed to be a NPC-Free. --Sonofagun18 17:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  3. Kill - Not needed. Zombie players can and do "step up", as The Second Big Bash shows. --Richardhg 05:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  4. Kill - This is a player vs. player game -- boxy • talk • 10:12 30 October 2007 (BST)
  5. Kill - No NPCs please. --Zombieslay3r 13:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  6. No NPCs, I feel it would just make the game too different. And also, I don't think people should be making generalizations about either side being stupid (pointing to votes below). - Whitehouse 15:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  7. Kill with fire- (moved from spam because this is a strong kill) There are not and should not be NPCs in Urban Dead.Studoku 16:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  8. Kill - No NPCs. --Shazzelim 16:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  9. Kill - sorry, but it's just not what this game is meant to be--Zach016 19:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  10. Kill - Changes basic nature of the game from a social experiment into something else. --Pgunn 19:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  11. Kill - I'm insulted that someone thinks that we zombies can be replaced by computers! :p But serioulsy, no NPCS please -- Mordac the Refuser 22:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  12. I don't have a problem with NPCs. I think some could work under specific circumstances. But not this generalized. Also, what happens if you try to revive one? And, most importantly, you forgot any kind of "stats" for them. Are they just "0 level" zombies?--Pesatyel 00:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  13. Kill - I don't want NPCs in this game, and Pesatyel raises a very good point about if one of the AIs got CR'ed. As much as the zombies need a boost, this isn't it. --Howard Bentley 02:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  14. Kill Just what we need... A Zombie that can get from one side of the city to the other in half a second. Or one that can kill you before you even know it's there... Computers can click a button (when simple, preset responses are used) hella-faster than a human can. NPCs aren't the problem. It's the fact that they'd be near invincible when switched "ON". ~A`Blue`JellyTME*V*I*L*? 02:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
  15. Kill - Two keeps? This is still up for voting? Why? It could be considered spam, since i'm pretty sure kevan is against NPCs.--Pharo2i2 14:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
  16. KILL - NPCs aren't the answer to this problem, and also, the suggestion is incomplete to boot. --the one, the only, sushiknight (talk contribs HARD E.N.D.) 16:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  17. KILL - Heavily discouraged in the past. Still the same now. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 22:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  18. Kill - No NPCs. --Druuuuu 21:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Spam - Contrary to popular belief, it's not zombies that are too intelligent, it's survivors that are too stupid. Learn to work together. AI zombies would just be another excuse for survivors to try and make life harder for zombie players via more powerful headshots and barricades. Also never, ever, suggest something with the qualifier that zombies are stoopit, UD has a unique take on zombies and in UD they aren't stupid. --Karekmaps?! 02:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  2. Spam - It sucks.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  3. Spam- And destroy the non-NPC virginity of Urban Dead?! NOOOOOOO --Darth LumisT! A! E! FU! U 02:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  4. Spam - As Darth not till UD is married. Sockem 02:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
    OMG LMAO that was a good one!! --Darth LumisT! A! E! FU! U 02:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  5. Spam - Over my dead body, which is trying to eat you. no NPC's. The whole point of the game is that everyone is a player. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 03:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  6. Spam - Absolutely no fucking NPCs. --User:Axe27/Sig 04:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  7. Spam - Sorry, this is a PvP MMORPG.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  8. Real Vikings don't wear hats with horns on them. Neither do they eat Spam. -- Also, what Karek said about 90% of survivors being too stupid. And calling zambahz mean names??? I am going to cry. Oh, shit, I can't, I'm dead. Okay, fine, where are the bra!nz? WanYao 05:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  9. Spamination Abomination - I admit it: I only read the title. --Funt Solo Scotland flag.JPG 09:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  10. Spam - No NPCs. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 10:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  11. Spam - This isn't a strong kill vote, I genuinely feel that adding non-player characters to the game would ruin it. Goes againgst the whole ethos.--SeventythreeTalk 12:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  12. Spam I almost never vote spam but this clearly ignores the basic tenet of UD. I'd rather see the introduction of a weapon designed for PKing, or magical powers, than AI. The nice thing about UD is that everyone you see is a real person somewhere. --Jon Pyre 13:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  13. Spam - Hey Clay5x! What kind of vote is this? A SPAM vote because this is utterly ridiculous. Cheers! --Ryiis 14:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  14. WTFCentaurs - Newbies must be nuked. Twice. -- John RubinT! ZG FER 15:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  15. Spam - no NPC --~~~~ [talk] 15:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  16. CENTAURS WITH LASERS COMING OUT THEIR EYES - Those links in the suggestion navigation box aren't just there to look pretty, y'know. Read "Topics to Avoid and Why" --Anotherpongo 15:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
    Kill with fire- (moved from spam because this is a strong kill) There are not and should not be NPCs in Urban Dead.Studoku 16:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  17. Spam - would remove one of UD's Unique Selling Points: the absence of non-player characters. --Pavluk A! E! 18:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  18. Spam - Every zombie is a playaa. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 20:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  19. *Claps Hands* MOAR SPAM! - *Spam truck falls out of the sky* No botting. Glenstone 20:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  20. WTFCentaurs - RAWR! NO NPCS!!! seriously, how many times have "OMG add zombah Npcz!!1" suggestions been shot down? When will we learn! --WOOT 23:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  21. Spam -Err, Clay5x, this suggestion IS utterly ridiculous. No NPCs. --AlexanderRM 23:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  22. CAKE! – Because I don't feel like spam. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 09:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  23. Spam - Zombie Jesus came to the Centaurs. He said unto them "WTF?" --Steakfish 23:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  24. Strong Kill - I do no like. -J. A. 23:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  25. Lollerskates - I can't even beguin to say how stupid of a suggestion this is. If this was made as a serious suggestion, then you need another game. THe best thing about UD is that there are no NPCs. --Psiborg 01:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
  26. Spaminate this! - No AI's, no NPC's. SPAM!--  Savant  Chit-Chat  07:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  27. AI is a no-no. This game is ruled by players, not computers. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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