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The Beginning
Sonny Corleone vs. TerminalFailure
The people of Sonny Corleone's party would like to bring charges against TerminalFailure who has produced slanderous lies in the form of lible that may hurt Sonny Corleone's upstanding image in the eyes of the community. Count One and Two against the accused party of TerminalFailure. In this edit TerminalFailure is clearly seen accusing the victim of "Zerging". Never in his 2+ years to the community has Sonny Corleone been convicted of Zerging. In fact, the client had signed the Coalition for Fair Tactics back in 26 July 2006 at aproximately 05:09 BST, as seen Here. Also, the accused part of TF has made stalkerish threats to Sonny Corleone Here. Terminal Failure is also a vigilante who was convicted for a 24 hour period. The final grievance against the accused party is the constant use of the name "Saromu", when the client has legally changed his name to Sonny Corleone. Fact of the matter, the people's client Sonny Corleone fears for his wiki life and would like the accused party of TerminalFailure to, and I quote, "bugger off" and "stop accusing of zerging". In recent attacks the accused made this comment on the victim's talk page and changed his name briefly to "Saromu Sucks", clearly an insult that is unwarranted. The client Sonny Corleone will accept the following Arbitatortots in Arby's:
Signed, --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 15:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I volunteer to arbitrate. I reckon I'm one of the few players who hasn't been in one of Sonny's groups at some point. --Karloth Vois RR 15:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't really know you and you're not on the list but I guess I'll accept. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 15:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'll toss my name into the ring as well just in case. :) -- Cheese 15:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't really know you and you're not on the list but I guess I'll accept. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 15:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Screw you, Sonny. I will accept none of the above other than Cheeseman
and Vois. I will not let myself be tried by a monkey court. If you're going to make a mockery of justice, try not to be both the defendant, judge and jury. Also, I just love how you prove me right. You are a hypocrite. First you wax lyrical about free speech, then you go and slam me for exercising it. Honest, I used to think Grim s was bad, but it's amazing what a little perspective can do, isn't it? Being Martyred
- I don't believe I have been in contact with either of you on the wiki before and so offer to be arbritrator. I assure you I will as fair and impartial as I possibly can. I also do not bow down to the pressures of others. Infact I generally try and forget the names of the people involved and base my actions entirely on the evidence provided.--Thekooks 16:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would like to accept the appointment if Akule doesn't want it, or isn't approved by the opposition.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS
LOE ZHU | Яezzens 18:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC) - I'd stick my hat into the ring again. If only I had a hat. In that case, I shall stick my sole remaining sock into the ring instead. -- Cheese
Either of the above are acceptable. Being Martyred
I Voulonteer.--SeventythreeTalk 18:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I thought the first arbitrator who gets picked by both parties gets the case...In this case, that's Cheeseman, isn't it? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, my bad.... I withdraw. Cheeseman will do a good job.--SeventythreeTalk 19:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- It is fairly well established that you wait until both parties explicitly say ok , not just I will accept these poeple. Also wait until Sonny is back please.--Thekooks 19:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I guess I'll take AnimeSucks I don't know him but I know Cheeseman and thus would be cheating. Would the Arbitatortot please set up our orders for Arby's? --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 02:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The Middle
Okay. This is how this is gonna work. Sonny will present his case, then TerminalFailure will present his. Once both parties have concluded their opening statements, each will have a chance to rebutt (though they do not have to if they don't wish) starting with Sonny, then TerminalFailure. I will conclude this proceeding in no more than 7 days. If the case has reached 7 days and not all evidence has been presented, I will make my judement based on evidence already presented.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS 
LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Opening Statements
In your opening statements, give me an idea of how you think this issue should be resolved. It may or may not effect the overall outcome of the case.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Sonny Corleone
I shall use my previous argument as my opening.
The people of Sonny Corleone's party would like to bring charges against TerminalFailure who has produced slanderous lies in the form of lible that may hurt Sonny Corleone's upstanding image in the eyes of the community. Count One and Two against the accused party of TerminalFailure. In this edit TerminalFailure is clearly seen accusing the victim of "Zerging". Never in his 2+ years to the community has Sonny Corleone been convicted of Zerging. In fact, the client had signed the Coalition for Fair Tactics back in 26 July 2006 at aproximately 05:09 BST, as seen Here. Also, the accused part of TF has made stalkerish threats to Sonny Corleone Here. Terminal Failure is also a vigilante who was convicted for a 24 hour period. The final grievance against the accused party is the constant use of the name "Saromu", when the client has legally changed his name to Sonny Corleone. Fact of the matter, the people's client Sonny Corleone fears for his wiki life and would like the accused party of TerminalFailure to, and I quote, "bugger off" and "stop accusing of zerging". In recent attacks the accused made this comment on the victim's talk page and changed his name briefly to "Saromu Sucks", clearly an insult that is unwarranted. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 03:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
TerminalFailure
The defendant would like to begin by noting that free speech is a protected right on the wiki according to the prosecutor [[1]] . Lible(sic) is not a valid complaint on the wiki. If Saromu does not like my statements, let him first prove himself innocent. Until then, i am free to exercise my right to free speech and state that he is a zerger. His use of 5 alts certainly does suggest such a conclusion. In addition, stating that one "fears for his wiki life" is not a valid case. If he fears for his wiki life, he should not be a troll, especially not on other users's pages.
Your Honor, previous convictions by biased juries are irrelevant to the discussion at hand, especially, when 2/3 of said users are rabidly pro-zombie and are close friends with the accuser. In addition, the defendant was merely expressing his disappointment with the actions of the prosecution and was within his rights. Clearly, "Saromu" or whatever the mental patient...I mean accuser is making accusations in the hopes of bypassing the rules to crush opposition to his trollish and uncouth tactics and thereby make a mockery of justice on the wiki. The defense rests its case. TerminalFailure 17:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Rebuttals
The Round of Rebuttals will begin. Sonny will begin--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 19:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Sonny Corleone
TerminalFailure does not know what Arby's is. Arby's is not just a food chai nstore that sells processed meat in roast beef disguise, it is also a section of the Wiki to settle disputes between members. Thus TerminalFailure's argument that his freedom of speech is protected is null and void. This is not an issue of breaking rules, if so this would have been in Vandal Banning. TerminalFailure has no clue what he is arguing about, just like he has no idea what zerging is.
I chose you, AnimeSucks, to be the Arbitatortot because I know that you lead the zerg list. You are the expert on zerging in the game. Having five characters is not a crime. I do not even play all 5 of them each day. I rotate every other day which zombie I use and which survivor I use. On one day I'll use Sonny and Anthony, on the other Canderous and Fidel. This is a purely legal tactic...it isn't even a tactic. This does not make sense. How is this zerging? Characters are never even close to each other. They're nto even in the same organization. Sonny is RRF in the Ridelybank area. Fidel is MOB in the Caiger area. Anthony is MSD in Penny Heights. And Canderous is DORIS in Giddings-Dowdney area. These characters are no where near each other. This accusations of zerging are, for lack of better words, retarded. TerminalFailure does not know how to insult. Calling someone a zerger when they are not a zerger is dumb, plain and simple.
I made this case for three reasons. The first to exercise my right to go to Arby's over a dispute that I felt was destined for trouble. The second is to prove TerminalFailure wrong. Show him that everything he knows is wrong. He is wrong about the game, the wiki, me, the community, and everything in the world. The third reason is to shut him up. I have no justification behind this besides the fact I want him to zip the lip before I break his hip. Simple as that.
Before TerminalFailure's rebuttal and AnimeSucks' decision I would like to state that I want TerminalFailure's stalking, insults, harassment, and stupidity to cease. I want TerminalFailure to stop planning against me with Velo2 and to stop being a vigilante against me, which has already gotten him in trouble, and to stop following what I do. I want the insults towards me to be removed from his page and all pages that he has done them and to stop forevar. I want future and current harassment to end. And I want zerging accusations, which are stupid to cease. On top of that, under stupidity I want all Halo 3 references on his user page to be removed because it's just stupid. All of this will be with an apology to me for wasting my time.
I do not ask for much, just for this to end properly.
Now, if my argument and facts are not enough to sway you, Animesucks, then the only thing that can is TerminalFailure's own stupidity and idiotic statements. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 20:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
TerminalFailure
"I do not ask for much, just for this to end properly." In that case Sonny, stop harassing users on the wiki, stop intimidating pro-survivor wiki users and newbies, remove all insults you wrote on user pages/talk pages and leave the wiki. Too much to ask? Then we can resolve this in a civilized manner.
"Thus TerminalFailure's argument that his freedom of speech is protected is null and void. This is not an issue of breaking rules, if so this would have been in Vandal Banning."
Ah, so you finally figured out that harassing someone who has broken no rules in VB won't work? Congratulations. I can and will state that no rules have been broken, to ensure idiots like you don't continue to raise the question on other pages. Freedom of speech is protected to an extent on this wiki. Unlike you, I have not harassed other users, and my edits are generally contructive. Yours? Drama.
"TerminalFailure has no clue what he is arguing about, just like he has no idea what zerging is." I can call him a zerger all I want. If he has that many characters, its quite probable that he is zerging. Using two or more characters to affect an area IS zerging, even if he takes the time to move one out of the zerg flag's range before bringing his alts in to finish whatever business he was conducting. Besides, expressing my views is not forbidden, and this is not the first time allegations of zerging have been raised against users on the wiki. You don't like it? Too bad.
I made this case for three reasons. The first to exercise my right to go to Arby's over a dispute that I felt was destined for trouble. The second is to prove TerminalFailure wrong. Show him that everything he knows is wrong. He is wrong about the game, the wiki, me, the community, and everything in the world. The third reason is to shut him up. I have no justification behind this besides the fact I want him to zip the lip before I break his hip. Simple as that. Ah, so the truth comes out. Folks, Saromu has only one basic strategy: harassment. He is a vandal who spends his time conducting terror campaigns to ensure there is no opposition to his views. Guess what, dipshit? I'm not shutting up. I will not allow myself to be censored by some wannabe-tinpot dictator who can't find anything else to do. You don't want trouble? Stop your inappropriate actions. Under no circumstances will I apologize without an appropriate response. Similarly, I will NEVER remove user page content before he mends his ways and learns to contribute to the wiki in an appropriate manner. Any out of bounds actions on Saromu's part involving my User Page/the User pages of others will result in my dragging him to Vandal Banning and hopefully his removal from the community.
Saromu, Sonny, whatever you call yourself now? You called me a wiki vigilante because I call you out on something you did wrong? Fine. I am a wiki vigilante, and I will not shut up or go away until either you cease to be a troll and stifle free speech on this wiki, or you leave. Wikis are meant to be edited by anyone, not by a group of yes-men representing a narrow POV. If I did stop, your actions would hurt this wiki and stifle free speech, hence I will not cease to raise questions about your conduct or listen to your orders in any way. You can gag me, but I won't be quiet. Saromu Sucks 22:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The End
Now that all the arguments and evidence has been presented, I will look it over thoroughly and my ruling will be forthcoming.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The Godfather's Ruling
To Both
The internet is serious business and this is as serious as it gets. The backlash of drama escalation, while there may be lulz, really dampens the mood around, and cramps my style. I am not exactly sure how this all started, but I can only go by what is presented to me during the arbitration. So I am making the following mandates for both of you:
- Both of you will refrain from commenting on eachother's talk page for a period of six months. This ruling will be considered your first warning, and violating it will be considered an act of vandlism.
- Both of you will refrain from commenting directly to eachother on the entire wiki also for a period of six months. Should one of you make a suggestion, or put something up for deletion you may vote, but your comments will be limited The standard fair of "For & Against for suggestions with your justifications being solely on the merits or flaws of the suggestion, and Keep & Delete for page deletions, to which typically justification is not required. Obviously these are meant to serve as a template for all dealings with eachother in regards to the wiki and is not limited to just Suggestions and Deletions pages. Any flame bating will be considered an act of vandlism.
- Also, it is this arbitrators suggestion that when you do refer to eachother on the wiki it must be done in the standard congressional faire of "The Distinguished Gentlemen from..." with the respective groupname of the player as the location. Sonny would be, preferably, "The Distinguished Gentlemen from DORIS," and TerminalFailure "The Distinguished Gentlemen from the CDF." Though, while it may not be enforceable, it would please me greatly.
To Sonny
- You will be required to move this conversation to your archives: User_talk:Saromu#TerminalFailure_is_a_Faggery_Daggery_Doodoo_Head
To TerminalFailure
Your lack of evidence presented did not help your case, and the fact that you continued to flamebait during this arbitration did not please the court So therefore I am issuing the following mandates:
- You have 24 hours from this ruling to present your evidence of Saromu/Sonny's Zerging to the Resensitized Zerg Liste for validation. Should you fail to bring forth evidence, or we find your evidence to be incomplete or wrong, you will have one week (at the end of the 24 hour period or the conclusion of the zerg investigation, whichever is greater) to issue a sincere formal apology to be placed upon your userpage for the period of one month. Failure to comply with the apology will result in one step of vandalism.
- Your signature throughout this has been disheartening, so therefore I am requiring to return to your name nameplace in your signature for the duration of one months time. After this one months time, you may not place ANY flamebait references in your signature as this will result in one step of vandalism.
- You will also be required to remove any untrue statements from your userpage and talkpage that was not directly involved in comments issued back and forth by both parties: IE statements of zerging, and sucking.
To Hagnat
Hagnat, it would please the court for the following template to be raised one degree due to the excess of drama that has just unfolded.
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There is little drama. Slow mondays ? |
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Misconbitration! Drama all around the wiki! |
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Drama levels not seen since Wikigate! |
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To Everyone Else
This arbitration will remain open for a period of two more weeks, as there are still some ongoing mandates that need to be fulfilled. If the mandates are fulfilled or not, the arbitration will be updated at the bottom to reflect this.
This is my ruling, and I hope that I was fair and just.
May Pluto reign within your heavens.
--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The Fallout
This was left to me on my talk page, and I figured it was relevant to the case. I expected something as such.
- Unless Saromu is required to apologize for his part in this whole overblown affair, I will not obey any of the trash under "For TerminalFailure".His part in this garbage was just as great as, if not greater than, my own. TerminalFailure 14:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, you were required to do a formal apology for the baseless zerging accusations, and not for the back and forth hurrness that has been going on.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 16:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The prophecy is looking more and more probable with every edit Terminal makes. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 20:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Here's some possible breach of the ruling. As Arbitrator Anime, is this against the spirit of your ruling? -- Cheese 23:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm not, but shouldn't he be vandal banned for 48 hours now? 24 hours was his last punishment. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 01:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm giving him a full 24 hours from my ruling to delete those messages. Afterwhich I will be taking him to Vandal Banning--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Mandate of Apology Ordered
Since no evidence of zerging was presented to Resensitized to be investigated, I am hereby ordering TermainalFailure to place a sincere public apology upon his userpage which is remain there for a period of no less than one month. I will issue that TermainalFailure has 4 days from this mandate to comply. If after 4 days, no sincere formal public apology has been issued, Vandal Banning may be sought.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The End?
This concludes the actual proceedings and my involvement in the case as arbitrator. Questions may be fielded on the talk page until this page gets archived and protected (do arbies get protected?)--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
