User talk:Spiderzed/2011Q1

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Saving my own fresh new blank talk page from the incoming inevitable D: -- Spiderzed▋ 17:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Heh. I laughed, I laughed. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 17:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Cobra Page

Can I edit the page so that it shows today's date in 1984 rather than 1984/03/16 (unless that has special meaning for you)?-MHSstaff 19:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to. We don't really care. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Yay! It's one of my favorite pages here. -MHSstaff 19:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

PHOBIA Page

I want to add some pages that will link to the PHOBIA page similar to Cobras page. I think it would help to tidy it up alot. Where do I look for guidance in doing that? Are the linked pages templates?

Knock-knock!

Do excuse me, if this page in not supposed to be used for such purposes: please, please check my talk page for remonstrance. Sincerely yours, --Alexander Ignus 18:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC).

SWA

Hey man, I've noticed you working on something called SWA in your sandbox. I just wanted to let you know that when you get around to putting it into the mainspace you can have the old SWA redirect. Currently it redirects to South West Alliance, but I've been the only guy maintaining the wiki page for a while and the group went inactive a couple months ago. My only caveat would be that you change any incoming links to SWA to SWA first, so that old references on the wiki still point to the correct place. Good luck with your new group! --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/SWA

You might want to work in {{purge}} somehow. The CURRENTMINUTE templates suffer horribly from page caching. You could, however create a Purge link to your sandbox or the page it is placed on and each time it is clicked, a non-cached version will be displayed. ~ 19:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/No_minimum_vote_on_APD

I take it now this has passed, you're going try some of this again, amiright? --Thadeous Oakley Talk 15:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, #2 and #3 are definitively going to be resubmitted this week, as they originally had 2/3 majorities. #1 not so much as it hasn't gained a 2/3 majority in the original vote. Don't think that it would be called for to resubmit it, unless another significant change comes to the wiki that relates to the promo process. -- Spiderzed▋ 17:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Figured that much. Btw, your of German origin? In what province do you live, if I may ask? --Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:40, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, German origin. And currently living in the Black Forest area. -- Spiderzed▋ 21:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, the Schwarz Wald. I happen to live 10 minutes off North Rein-Westfalen. Which of the following: CDU, SPD, FDP, or Grune? --Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

They all should be hung and left to rot, to varying degrees. As that sadly isn't a valid vote option (and as the APPD won't ever snap a parliament seat), I'm stuck with being a massive swing voter. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:28, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh come on, they all suck? I'll try again: Left or Right? I count anarchy as left :P --Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't vote for the APPD for the anarchy, I'd vote for them for the free beer - that's already more than I could expect from any other party. Oh, and I like the idea to put nazis into GEPs - that would have made the Cornholioo case sooo much easier.

As for left or right wing, the choice inside the German right wing consists of a.) a historical collecting pond for old nazis that was originally funded by the Catholic church, with policies and ideas that are still heavily coloured by that history and b.) the Big Business party, that occassionally hands out candy for Small Business to keep the voters at bay.

Which would solely leave the left wing - if this in turn wouldn't consist of a.) "we are like the CDU, but are buddies for trade unionists and pretend that we care for them", b.) friggin' anti-war hippies or c.) the unsacred marriage of old East German communist pigs with radical West German communist rioters.

Srsly, nothing left but to swing vote and hope to settle down the bigger evil. -- Spiderzed▋ 23:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Seems to me you just don't like politics very much :P. The things you describe are mostly common traits for those parties; The CDU having christian ideals, the FDP being in favor of an unrestricted market, the SPD having support of trade unions isn't really out of place. I'm sure you have your own ideas on how to run the country, besides free beer, you'll likely find some common ground with one or two parties. The difference between all these movements such liberalism, social-democracy, socialism and christen-democracy is substantial. Disagreeing with all them kinda makes me wonder what's left. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Substantial difference? Not in the federalist multi-party system of Germany. Hardly a policy passes without being heavily watered down either by the coalition liaison, by the Bundesrat or by sweet-talk with potential/current regional coalition liaisons to don't step on their toes (as CDU + Greens, or SPD + Linkspartei).

That aside, I don't agree with any party on the big picture. I absolutely can't stand the CDU's pro-clerical stance, I absolutely can't stand the FDP's blatant Big Business corruption, I absolutely can't stand the Green party's fanatical pacifism - and the less is said about the Linkspartei (which is a Rogue's Gallery of East Germany's socialist party henchmen and West Germany's pro-communism nutjobs), the better.

Only the SPD is a party I have no absolute beef with - in fact, I was a staunch supporter of the Schröder administration. Even in the light of the Gazprom scandal, it beats the former and the current administration by a large margin. But these days, the SPD lacks any recognizable profile, direction, faces or opinions. And those who actually stick out maybe better shouldn't. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Developing Suggestions

Sorry about that, it was a typo. PS. Know any good anarchist groups? --Anachomutualist 18:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Expect some more. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. Just doing some vandalism-battling as I see it. And yes, now that Corny has learned of proxies, I expect some more to come indeed. -- Spiderzed▋ 13:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Unsurprising

http://iamscott.net/1296387224360.html

Danger report suggests its being targetted. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

An excellent reply to thad.

Although I'd partially disagree. Active policy design is a project in itself. (and one I've never done.) If you do get bored, come help out here. its brand new. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

and if we get bored we could always shoot the malton rangers.

http://iamscott.net/1296706982264.html----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 04:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Your Bid

I've changed my "vote" to against. What you've just posted on Sexualharrison's talk page is disgusting and I have no support for you as a candidate whatsoever any more.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Relevant. Spider is answering Harrison's question, not offering a suggestion. 20:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Blatantly not. Read the comment for once. The language is quite clear. Now go do something better than repeatedly hounding everybody who disagrees with you.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Keep that discussion on A/PM, as anything relevant to the bid. No need to drag things into hidden corners of the wiki out of the community's view. -- Spiderzed▋ 20:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just informing you, as I usually do when I change support on a bid. Mis presumably copied his post here so that I wouldn't miss it.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

You can bet that I keep an eye on my own bid. If I would pay so little attention to something so directly related to me that I'd need someone to point out changes in it to me, I shouldn't run in the first place. -- Spiderzed▋ 20:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

It's just to make sure.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

well don't worry yon i plan on meat puppeting the fuck out you're re-ev bid when it comes up. you have turned into a grim sized asshole and you are a completely inept Pker. please stop being such a fucking faggot.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 16:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure the bureaucrats will care more about the meatpuppets you send after me than the ones I had sent after me at my last RE.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 10:34, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

...

Curse you and your GSGM clearing edit conflicts! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

It was me fucking up to ask Modzer0, so it also should have been me to clean up afterwards. -- Spiderzed▋ 00:10, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Congrats

And you can now rule on an A/VB case for the first time too, even before I did! --Thadeous Oakley Talk 14:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Bravo, mate. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 18:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Speaking from experience there's nothing more heartwarming than having to congratulate yourself. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles by Aichon, Ross and DDR. --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I was already aware of both. Still, cheers. -- Spiderzed▋ 21:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, well, everybody needs to get them on their talk page. It's a steady move towards an automated congratulations message, presenting by Bureaucrat bots created by Rooster.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I must write up an article on NippleGate to complete the welcome. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Make it so. 21:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

What is Nipplegate? Is that when people tried to crack down on porn images, and the bouncing breasts and soforth?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

ERROR: LINKS ALREADY DUMPED. COULD NOT PARSE SECTION. --User:Roosterlessness←↓↑→CratBot 21:45, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Bouncing Breasts? What does that image look like? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

A roast dinner at the circus--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Nubis/2009#June_4 --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

My condolences. --Kirsty cotton 23:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

right here ross ====>----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 22:19, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

VB Case

I've reopened it, because I quite strangely bumped in to a precedent of goatse's as vandalism. Telling you because you closed the case, and assuming all other sysops will see this or the case and will respond as such.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Toot.

fixed. except for one over here. protected page. -- †  talk ? f.u. 13:59, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Depressing as it sounds

Somewhere around here there's a copy of a statment from capcom stating that umbrella tribute acts falls under fair usage. The problem is there are so many umbrella groups I can't remember which one contacted capcom. Unimaginative bastards. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Ta

--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Close call. Only after I issued my soft warning, I was seeing the Snuffleupagus comment in RC. Was just done checking if he was permabanned back then when you've beaten me to it. -- Spiderzed▋ 16:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Whats the point indeed

Much more beneficial to whack you down to low Hp and stick around cause you ain't gonna do nothing to me--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

But yes my technique doees need improving, I forgot to finish knocking you down to 1 :/--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, it wouldn't have mattered. Those survivors are darn quick at applying band-aids on ouchies. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Shame i can't say the same for my pker, allways getting pked himself when on low health :/--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sally

Did you have to use my own words against me? And is it wrong that I found that freaking hilarious? Well, I'll be up and running in moments thanks to labcoaters, so no harm done. I'd love to continue our game of switchblade tag, but I have business to attend to, so you'll have to satisfy yourself with the many zergers of Pitneybank. If you are the kind of girl who likes it in groups ;) --Penguinpyro 20:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

You just know me for moments, and you already try to sound me out for my preferences? *sighs* Guys. Even getting killed by you doesn't stop them thinking about how to get into your pants. Regardless, Cobra Commander's orders are as much as a mystery as are his orders. Maybe it's you tomorrow again, or one of alwayz' over 9000 split personalities, or some seemingly random trenchie in the mall at 12HP. --Sally A. Summers i Ω i 15:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

... (2)

...I swear, that has better not be some one month early pre-scout of AHMH4's playing area before actually signing up for AHMH4... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't plan to sign up at AHMH, and if I do, then certainly not with Sally. -- Spiderzed▋ 15:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

i flunked the PK test.

so YOG is looking for a new group. interested?----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 22:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Relevant to your interests: Mossad and forums. Not sure if that is going anywhere, though. -- Spiderzed▋ 08:10, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

looks good. but I would change the leadership to something else. also so do you want YOG for cobra or should i have him join the mossad? personally I think YOG is a bit too evil for the mossad.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 22:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

If you want to go nasty, go Cobra. Me and Kirsty are right now in #cobra on Nexuswar IRC. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:25, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

User:Northboundsnow

Thanks for the reply. I've not been able to reactivate Northboundsnow account and have attempted to retrieve pw but nothing from any of my e-mail. Any chance i can keep user: Northboundsnow account but delete user: NORTHBOUNDSNOW as reflected in policy. --NORTHBOUNDSNOW 12:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I received your reply and I am in agreement on the custom sig. I am gonna try to access the old sig, and maybe later, depending on whether successful or not, may opt to delete or the other. Thanks, you may consider this thread close. --NORTHBOUNDSNOW 00:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I've gotten around it and able to do a simple custom sig. Not yet decided on the old account though. Last but not least, thanks a lot for the help. Thank you. --Northboundsnow 03:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

testing my new shit out..

boo yah!--User:Sexualharrison 00:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Another important lesson learned. Hopefully these newbs can gain some more xp when I return. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Yep, zombie skills. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:09, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

mossad

hey mind if i put myself back as the leader of mossad. it's like the one page i almost completely built back when i cared about malton and the wiki. i mean as far as i'm concerned I am king of the jews in malton or at least it's most notable--

bitch 19:12 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. It doesn't look like it takes off anyway. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

hazah! hey i just thought of a good kill line.. shalom y'all!--

bitch 19:23 7 March 2011 (UTC)

I usually just point out that I use a Desert Eagle to blow Cornlolio away. Because he sure gets a boner from being penetrated with an Israeli pistol out of all guns. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:28, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

oh just admit it already.. you like blowing cornholio. you have a soft spot big blond dutch boys OOOF!--

bitch 22:51 7 March 2011 (UTC)

So, the cornhole himself got blasted in Yogaton PD. I had 'm down to 9 HP when a friendly neighbourhood antinazi shot him out of the PD. --Zyckde 08:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

also i've put some thought into this. mossad really doesn't need operatives to put mossad in there group tags. all of my alts are in mossad. mossad is an undercover organization and does not need to advertise it's members. unless they want to. thoughts?--

bitch 16:48 11 March 2011 (UTC) 16:48, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Meh. I wear the tags only for being kewl when nazi-hunting. Apart of the publicly visible gnatsi list (and a willingness to hunt from it), none of my other alts has any ties to Mossad, or any special willingness to help it. -- Spiderzed▋ 17:44, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

they just don't know it but they are in the Zionist conspiracy--

bitch 20:56 11 March 2011 (UTC)

They're back?

Fuck yes. Finally a reason to go back hunting. Found one of 'em but didn't have the AP to bag him, what a shame.. Oidar 08:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

District? --Zyckde 08:30, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Right in your neighbourhood. Wyke Hills. Added it to Mossad's pretty little list. Oidar 08:46, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

On second thought, nevermind. Got him. Oidar 16:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

And I was sleeping nearby to catch him in a few hours :( Nevermind the bit about reporting, Cornlolio has learned of the RG and snitches to it religiously. Of course, it also makes it much, much easier to keep track... -- Spiderzed▋ 16:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I needed to get back in shape. :P It's been a while since last time. And yeeah, I noticed he had reported bounty attempts on himself.. hurr hurr. Oidar 16:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh you young rascal.

I see what you did there. -- Cheese 18:03, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

... What? :P -- Spiderzed▋ 18:09, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Knew I spelt it wrong. =p -- Cheese 23:28, 30 March 2011 (BST)

RE: Tidbits

Vandalize my precious wikipage? HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST IT?!
Of course you may. DM's script deserves to be shared with the world. --DT^PK 16:51, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

PKing

You killed me...again! I was busy typing explaining why you wrongfully killed me. I went to say it, but you had killed me and dumped the body outside. Here's what I was going to say: You killed Batavian Warrior and received a bounty for it, and I kill GKers (mostly Tasty Snack) and the occasional death cultist trying to piñata. Should I get killed for that? --Ahlek 18:34, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I've never received a bounty, since Cornlolio is too inept to C&P a name correctly. But that's beside the point. The point is rather that I've got bored waiting for Batavian to grab a revive and could neither find any zergers to use for target practice. So I've decided to help you with your little bounty problem instead, lest a PKer manages to kill you unreported. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:43, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

...you could just kill actual PKers. --Ahlek 19:53, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I could also search for decorative buildings and apply them to random buildings. Or jump from a window and nahm a harman. Or start another offense to reclaim all of Ridleybank, if not even Blackmore NT. Or to buy a pony. But I chose to do neither of these either. -- Spiderzed▋ 20:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

So you choose to continue killing me if Cornholio isn't around? I won't fight you (at least your Mossad alt) because it isn't a PKer, and my Wulves alt targets only PKers and the like. --Ahlek 20:24, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Maybe. Maybe I'll finally find a zerger or another tastier target. But given nothing better to pour APs in, I might indeed look if I can get your bounty all the way down to zero :P -- Spiderzed▋ 20:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I could give you the names of some of the trenchies liberating the cemetery, if you have enough pistol clips. --Ahlek 21:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

You'll have to wait a bit longer Spidey. Couldn't resist his sweet, sweet 30-ish HP. Oidar 07:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

-- Spiderzed▋ 14:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

just wondering

do we have anything to do with these douche bags?--

bitch 12:56 14 March 2011 (UTC)

They were founded around the same time as us, and we had a non-agression pact set up with them to avoid Umbrella-style drama. Haven't heard of them in a long while, though. They are most likely inactive now. -- Spiderzed▋ 14:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

that kinda blows. they have the stink of fail on them--

bitch 14:40 14 March 2011 (UTC)

got ya!

now don't forget to take a screenie of the song.. and post on the mcm forum dear :P --

bitch 04:01 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Done. You are displayed both on the MCM forums and on the RG. You nasty Cobras deserve no better. I hope you all die in a fire. -- Spiderzed▋ 08:17, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

now to boast about it even more on the cobra forum..--

bitch 19:19 15 March 2011 (UTC)

New Dawn

Book 'em Dano. ~ Kempy 

“YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

01:56, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Want them on the RG? -- Spiderzed▋ 15:17, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, go on. Thankyaw. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

16:04, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Ouch tho... turn the brightness down a few notches eh? I know I'm a dazzling fella, but that's taking the mick. Do you play UD wearing a pair of Ray-Bans? ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

16:09, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Here you go And hey, I like my BHers in scorching purple. It raises the to-hit chances by +15%, since they are so hard to miss. It's true, ask Kevan. -- Spiderzed▋ 16:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

not so stupid question

do you think it would be possible to add a self updating twitter stream to ones user space?--

bitch 16:23 20 March 2011 (UTC)

It would require accessing and updating from external files, so no, it wouldn't work. (As little as people managed to get DOA bars to work on the wiki.) On a different wiki that allows to display external images, you might work out a work-around by converting twitter posts to images and then including them, but on UDWiki, you are outta luck. -- Spiderzed▋ 16:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

fucksaws that would be quite cool. CURSE YOU KEVAN! DAMN YOU TO HELL! UPDATE THE FUCKING WIKI SOFTWHERE!--

bitch 16:55 20 March 2011 (UTC)

calm down spidy

that was like the first time i've ever done that. sheesh. can't i be bored at work and screw with someone i've known for over 5 years?--

bitch 19:12 21 March 2011 (UTC)

You seem to have missed that I did nothing but to raise my count by +1 as well :P -- Spiderzed▋ 19:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

bastard!--

bitch 21:19 21 March 2011 (UTC)

make it so!

doooo eeet (the ck thing) push! proded! kicked in the head! :P-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

bitch 17:35 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Nazi?

Wilhelm Keitel, lvl 1 and created yesterday, has been - according to my comrades, personally haven't able to check - sighted near/in the headquarters of the CPM in Dakerstown, at the same time as Cornholioo and his zergs are attacking a PD further to the south-west. Wilhelm Keitel was a Nazi field marshal and was executed at Nuremberg. Whaddya think? Smyg 14:35, 28 March 2011 (BST)

vuilnisman is in Dibbings Plaza PD, west of Krinks, --Zyckde 07:56, 31 March 2011 (BST)

Not anymore. Batavian is in Club Margesson, though. Oidar 08:52, 31 March 2011 (BST)