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*'''comment''': I use the wiki but I don't pretend to understand what a sysop actually "does," or any of AHLG's userpage for that matter. I don't even have a flashy animatronic sig.png. But, if doing things I don't understand is the standard qualification for this position, I expect AHLG will do a fine job with it.--[[User:P.F.|P.F.]] 02:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC) | *'''comment''': I use the wiki but I don't pretend to understand what a sysop actually "does," or any of AHLG's userpage for that matter. I don't even have a flashy animatronic sig.png. But, if doing things I don't understand is the standard qualification for this position, I expect AHLG will do a fine job with it.--[[User:P.F.|P.F.]] 02:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Vouch''' - He's a pretty awesome dude, has the necessary admin abilities and any issues with him being put off by drama are relatively unimportant in a wiki era without much traffic or drama.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 19:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Recently Concluded Bids== | ==Recently Concluded Bids== |
Revision as of 19:31, 1 June 2014
This page is for users to request System Operator status. The act of user promotion is restricted to those with bureaucrat status, and as such users will need to request user promotion here. System Operators and Bureaucrats cannot assign promotions unless the request has gone through this page.
Guidelines for System Operator Requests
Users who wish to request System Operator status (and users who wish to nominate other users for System Operator status) should note that before they can be considered the following guidelines should be met by the candidate:
- Significant time within the community.
- We define this as at least 6 months since the candidate's first edit.
- Note: looking in a User's User contributions might give false results for this criterion, as the edit history is periodically purged on this wiki.
- Significant activity within the community.
- We define this as at least 250 edits in the past six months under the candidate's name.
- Note: looking in a User's User contributions might give false results for this criterion, as the edit history is periodically purged on this wiki.
- Prior interest in maintaining the community.
- We define this as clear evidence that the candidate is already performing maintenance tasks and taking leadership roles on the wiki.
- Desire to become a System Operator.
- We define this simply as indicating in the candidate's request their desire for the position (Note that if a person is nominated by another user, the candidate in question should note their acceptance of the nomination).
If a user is highly exemplary in one criterion, a certain amount of leeway may be given with the other criteria.
Once the candidate satisfies these guidelines, the user is then subject to a community discussion. All users are asked to comment on the candidate in question, ask questions of the candidate, and discuss the candidate's suitability for becoming a System Operator. This is not a vote. It is instead merely a request for comments from the wiki community. This will continue for two weeks to allow all users an opportunity to voice their opinion regarding a candidate's qualifications for promotion. After two weeks, the Bureaucrats are responsible for announcing their decision within a reasonably short period of time. Users may continue to add their thoughts until the Bureaucrats announce their decision. The current amount of System Operators running should not influence your decisions when voicing your opinion.
Once the two weeks are up, the Bureaucrats will review the community discussion and make a decision based upon it. The user will be notified of the status of their request, and will be promoted should it appear that the community is willing to accept them as a System Operator.
Example Application
Example User
- Example User (talk | contribs | UDWiki contribs | vndl data)
I've been around 3 months, and I've made to date 550 edits. As you can see [link here] and [link here], I've been in the leadership role attempting to create a new format for this page. I'd very much like to become a System Operator.
- Vouch - I am willing to vouch for this user. -- Voucher 03:41, 23 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Against - Example User, I haven't seen any evidence of your work on the wiki. --Some user 19:01, 25 July 2006 (BST)
- Vouch - Example User is the most active guy here. --Another user 19:01, 25 July 2006 (BST)
- Abstain - I'm just not sure, but I don't want to say why for some reason. --Some other user 19:01, 25 July 2006 (BST)
- Question - I just want to know what you think about this subject? --Yet another user 21:26, 4 April 2013 (BST)
Candidates Currently Under Community Discussion
A Helpful Little Gnome
It has been nearly a year since there was any promotion bid, and the sys-op team has constantly shrunken since (and will become even smaller after my crat term has elapsed). While the size of the sys-op team shouldn't be a factor for or against promotion, it would be a wise move to begin again to look around for viable talent to compensate for the losses that have already happened and are sure to come.
Gnome is a candidate who clearly comes to mind. He has been constantly active with more than 500 edits in the last half year (probably more than all other sys-ops combined), including work in what little is left of the administrative business on this wiki. He also has been a sys-op before without blowing up the wiki. I think we should punish him by promoting him once more.
(Ah, and if anyone gets their panties twisted at the thought of a crat proposing a promotion candidate, I could hold off on weighing in in the crat discussion until after my term has ended. Not that I think that anyone actually minds, given the current state of affairs.) -- Spiderzed▋ 13:26, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Vouch! Gnomes and target zombies are awesome. Whoever disagrees faintly smells of wee. Seriously though, he seemed like a good 'crat at the time. -- (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 13:56, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- A few things
- Crats have put people up for promotion before. Especially when we've only got four sysops and a small amount of active users, it's bound to happen. Crats also vouch for users (I did it,) which isn't that much different.
- With your retirement at the end of your crat term, we'll only have three active sysops. More sysops are needed to make sure that any administrative tasks are timely (especially spambot VB-ing.) This shouldn't influence one's vote too much, but it also isn't really too sustainable for the community to only have three sysops (and Boxy doesn't really check in all that often.) Especially since there should be a buffer in case of temporary inactivity among sysops (more good sysops are never a bad thing.)
- Gnome's done this job before in busier times. He's never had a taste for drama, but that's hardly a bad thing (I've never been a fan of the idea that sysops need 'more drama' before promotion,) and there's hardly any drama around this place anymore these days, so that doesn't really matter. He's been able to be a good sysop in the past, and I have no reason to think that has changed. A lot of his recent editing has been making his wiki game, although, meh, I can't hold that against him (although I'd definitely be backing that up...) If Gnome's going to be around making his wiki game, we might as well make him do some work too. Linkthewindow Talk 13:55, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- I like the wiki game, and I also like that he's one of those sysops who I don't remember for drama (I most remember his work on wiki formatting help pages; that's the first time I encountered him post-2010.) I do still see him weigh in on some things, and while some of them are jokes, everything Linkthewindow said above more succintly states why I'm in favour of this. Sorry for the ninja post over there, heh. -- (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 14:03, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'm gonna steal Gnome's schtick and simply say that he's a level-headed user who has been an asset to the wiki community over an extended period of time. Really, I can only think of one or two times in the last five years that I've seen the guy get upset. At this point, we're in maintenance mode, so having someone around who checks the wiki every now and then and is willing to do some work here or there would be most welcome. —Aichon— 14:19, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- I thought he was suckered into this role ages ago... when did he escape? Anyway... thats a YES from me. Also, I've forgotten how to sign things :( EDIT: aha. thanks for tagging it.... think i have it now Honestmistake 00:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- He allowed J3d to become a sysop? in that case i would like to double vouch.. taking risks is good, this place died (at least in part) because some people wouldn't accept other views might be valid! Honestmistake 02:14, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Gnome --Rosslessness 16:12, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Vouch if there was a reason for me to come back from the dead this is it. --ConndrakaTAZM CFT 16:56, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Vouch - This guy saved my life. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Vouch but this better not be a goon plot. :P--User:Sexualharrison01:13, 30 May 2014
- Someone say Goon vote?--SA 01:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- AHLG gets a vouch from me, however, I have some issues with above claims. In regards to Honestmistake's "How did he escape" from his role as a sysop, AHLG originally left sysop when, as a crat, he and Cheese promoted Jed, and received such a huge backlash from nubis, boxy and karek that he demoted himself at the drop of a hat without going through any of the proper channels, and left for a brief period of time. Would that happen again? God no, but his decision to leave a year ago about the way the community treats new users indicates that when upset, AHLG may be one to leave rather than just stick around and ignore it. Was he a sysop without "blowing up the wiki" like Spiderzed has claimed? I guess, but he's come a lot closer than any other sysops, by promoting a controversial user then- more importantly- abruptly leaving the wiki with one bureaucrat for 2 weeks.
Obviously, he'll be fine. But it's worth remembering this rather than assuming everything in the past was daisies and lollipops. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:47, 30 May 2014 (UTC)- Yes, this would be good to point out. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:02, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Considering the length of his career here, I'd say that's all pretty mild. But yes, there is that (I remembered he got upset and left for a good year or so because of me, but I couldn't remember what it was over...ahhh, not-so-fond memories :P). Even so, you got pissed at me plenty of times too (e.g. the nav bar on the left thing, the Iscariot vandal data fallout, doubtless some other stuff), and I've blown up at folks too (e.g. when I put myself up for demotion). It's a rare 'sop that doesn't have moments like that. We're all human. The trick is to not take the wiki down with you when you do them, and all of those situations eventually worked themselves out, for better or worse. ;) —Aichon— 02:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Daisies and lollipops ~ 05:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- weak vouch: now, i must admit, i am a little bit slow in the head, but i do visit the wiki every day, and i find it very difficult to understand what is happening! i do not know anything about what is going on. but that is my problem. i do know one thing, that a helpful little gnome is a very qualified person, so for however little my voice is worth, i hope to one day be able to understand the thing he did to his page while he sits on a porcelain throne of whatever the position we are trying to promoted him to. -- 15:21, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- comment: I use the wiki but I don't pretend to understand what a sysop actually "does," or any of AHLG's userpage for that matter. I don't even have a flashy animatronic sig.png. But, if doing things I don't understand is the standard qualification for this position, I expect AHLG will do a fine job with it.--P.F. 02:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Do eeet - Cheese
- Vouch - He's a pretty awesome dude, has the necessary admin abilities and any issues with him being put off by drama are relatively unimportant in a wiki era without much traffic or drama.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Recently Concluded Bids
Hagnat's bid was unsuccessful.
Archived Promotions
For earlier promotion bids, see the Sysop Archives and its relevant categories.