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This page is for the old stuff off the Crimson Clan's "discussion" page. It is for everything dating 2007-2008.

Hiya

Just saying hi to everyone...i'm ne to UD and just wanted to show support!!!Merc07 02:46, 15 October 2008 (BST)

4 corner Circus Tour

On behalf of my friends & I, Thank you for your hospitality as we gathered our troupe for the 4 corner circus tour. I especially want to thank CyAdora for the Crimson Rose... the song & the tender kiss.. This minstrel's heart will always be ablaze w/her memory.--Metamorphius 22:55, 12 September 2008 (BST)

You're welcome. I'm sure Cy would be happy to oblige you again too. She is very obliging =P --Jsrbrunty 22:09, 28 September 2008 (BST)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre

Check-Mark-Reviewed.jpg Group Confirmed.
This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.


Currently the suburb in question is Shore Hills but one response to this query will be all that is needed to protect your group link on all suburb pages. I know this is a random request but its for all groups regardless of size. Thank you. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:58, 16 July 2008 (BST)

Yes we are active, --Karec 06:29, 2 August 2008 (BST)

Congratulations

Congratulations in your efforts in taking back central Malton. It's nice to know we aren't alone out here. User:Thedosius 16:33, 3 March 2008

Thank you very much on behalf of all the Clan! (St Aden) 23:58, 7 April 2008 (BST)

Greetings from Goolina

I'd like to thank cogtag for the random revive. Well played! --Goolina Gore Corps 03:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for mentioning this! (St Aden) 06:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

i would

like to reinvite you to the revolution. Invite you to the The Malton Revolution, Why? Because we seem to have the same goals. Look it over, ignore spelling cause thats not a fair reason and get back to me. It would help promote unity for malton and you don't need to truely listne ot everything i say, just as long as some of you join the forum you can easily take part in the assembly.*this message is more or less just copy pasted from a earlier one so thats why it might not be good for your group* --Darkmagic 21:35, 29 September 2007 (BST)

You've already invited us, bud. And sorry, like last time, I've got to decline. We simply don't have the time to monitor another forum, and we already have our own goals to strive towards. Feel free to visit our forums though.Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 19:35, 30 September 2007 (BST)

for fucks sake, are you that stupid to read that it isnt absolute that you follow all are rules except for no full zeds and random pks.--Darkmagic 20:20, 30 September 2007 (BST)

Hehe, got a bit of a temper? Just out of curiosity, what's your group's purpose if members aren't required to follow your rules? We're anti-PK pro-survivors anyway.Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 21:37, 30 September 2007 (BST)

That part will be worked out once i have 11 active groups, and a few more free lance revolutionaries--Darkmagic 14:31, 8 October 2007 (BST)

Well.. still not got anyone? Sorry bud, the answer's the same as last time :PKris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 20:45, 8 October 2007 (BST)

11...

Hey, editing your previous post from "1" to "11" is kinda cheating ;) Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 13:57, 9 October 2007 (BST)

We don't have one, we got 10 though a few are questionable for activness.--Darkmagic 23:04, 9 October 2007 (BST)

Yer, I got that. Still, you wrote "1" :P But it doesn't matter. Please consider us allies/friends, but I'd like not to give too much of a promise.Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 15:28, 10 October 2007 (BST)

Now i need a new template for peopel who are freidns but not real members of the revolution...--Darkmagic 22:56, 10 October 2007 (BST)

Don't worry about any template for us, as we're not using any. Not even RESCUE, SGP, or UBP, although we strongly support all three policies. Also, having one template per ally/friend of us would mean filling an entire page ;) Hm... do you think I should make a CC template for you to put on your page?Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 22:30, 11 October 2007 (BST)
We use 3 templates if i add that one, the KOS one, the membership and a ally but not mebver

Dakerstown?

Are you folks still active in Dakerstown? If you are, where are you located? I'm a member of The Hard Corps, a group which is currently on a mission to rebuild Dakerstown for survivors. Please get back to me if you are in the area, so we can work together on this issue. Thank you.      Ekashp wuz here (aht harman bra!nz!)        02:52, 20 September 2007 (BST)

We are not in Dakerstown anymore. We are now HQ'd in the region of Havercroft and the Akland mall. For more information, or to discuss future operations, please contact Kris on our forum. I liked Dakers, so good luck & thanks! (St Aden)

Radio Frequency

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that the frequency guys claimed on the Radio page cannot be broadcast on in the game. You might want to pick a different one. --Thelightguy 07:53, 29 August 2007 (BST)

Hungry for Battle!

If you need some help in the attack (or defense) of Ackland, please call us. The Sons of Brazil are small, but we want to help. -- LukazDrakon 00:12, 27 August 2007 (BST)

Dropped you a message on your talk page. Your aid would be appreciated, feel free to use our forums for communications.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 21:43, 27 August 2007 (BST)

Sacred Ground Violator

Just a note - your member DeadDarth has been added to the Sacred Ground Violators list. Is it your policy to ignore SGP in the areas where you are operating? Kharms 17:32, 9 August 2007 (BST)

Again, apologies. And no, we're not ignoring SGP, nor UBP. The whole wiki group page is currently being rewritten and thus it misses a few elements like for example those two templates. Check out the old page if you want proof we've been supporting the policies all since the Clan was created in early April.
A copy of the original page is found at http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_Crimson_Clan/2
Check the main page history if you don't trust me.
The cemetery where you were shot, is actually the main Clan and AMS RP, where we run daily revives for anyone not enemies of mankind.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 23:28, 10 August 2007 (BST)

Then explain this http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/08-28-07_0700hrs_PUBLIC/IN_33-44_CrimsonClan_Zke_8e5-b70-708.html we came to you in a peaceful manner, and this is our welcome?--BLooDCLotT 09:19, 28 August 2007 (BST)

Use your brains. You were standing inside the mall, and you were a zed. What did you expect?
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 21:23, 28 August 2007 (BST)

Tags in Dakerstown

I personally don't mind if you have a few tags depicting where you guys gather. However I will admit even I found it rediculous to see five or more buildings stating they were your HQ. The mere concept of deviding the suburb just doesn't sit well with us and the FUACK. The FUACK have been aiding us against the IWM for a few months now. The Urban Guerillas have been fighting the Imperial War Machine since october 2006. It was less than pleasent to see a few groups install themselves in Dakerstown precisely when we were taking a little break from the zombie horde to help secure Calvert Mall and refit, and so, do not expect me to tell our members or the FUACK to limit the tagging.

Now I don't know who did the particular tags you were talking about, but I can tell you now that I won't tell the others to stop. If the ideology fails elsewhere, it stands strong and proud in Dakerstown, and that's thanks to our determination. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 01:59, 12 June 2007 (BST)

You sure about that your ideology still "stands strong and proud" in the area? There are maximum a dozen UG and FUACK members in total in the suburb, and you all act like there were a hundred of you. Let's say there's about 15-25 USAI members, eight PARD guys, ten Nivelon cultists, soon about 10 Knight's Templar members, and of course our 40 Clan folks. That brings us to a total of roughly 70-80 active non-communists. I'm not so sure it can be called a "Communist republic" anymore.
I highly respect that you guys have been fighting in the area for so long. But at some point you've got to do some kind of compromise if you want to be able to ask for our aid in the future. Of course, you will claim that you won't need it, and never did. Is it the fact that we are a newly created group the reason for your arrogant behavior? I hope you don't treat your declared friends (no allies. Why?) the same way... By the way, you've noticed that you are listed as "friends" on our main page? Nothing negative written about you this far. Would you mind showing some respect in return?
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 04:55, 12 June 2007 (BST)
Our strenght is independant of the presence of other organised groups. Our determination and overall strategy has brought us success after success since the very beginning, my first-hand experience with organised zombie hordes have taught me alot about how to fight them. That you stay in Dakerstown is fine, that we no longer farm the largest organised group is fine. But do not claim credit for what we fought so long to achieve. Zombies come and go. "Allies" come and go too, in the harsh suburb of Dakerstown. The suburb used to be covered with "The Imperial War Machine symbol" tags. Covering the suburb with our own tags was a symbol of victory and pride, as this very conflict had been fought before, though the IWM had always came out the winners. To have a few tags is more than acceptable, but to claim a large chunk of the suburb is simply undermining our achievements. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 23:45, 16 June 2007 (BST)

Zed Spy

"I've noticed a group named the Crimson Clan has build a stronghold in Dakerstown, and are planning to send a division of their forces in Roywood to help rebuilding the NT buildings. They are planning to engage an open war against you, and contacted me to run an infiltration against you and gather the most information I could find to help them against the war. There's only 1 problem for them: I'm sick of this noobish survivor goup which kill anyone which doesn't respect the rules. (Their rules, of course.) After seeing what they've done with the IWM, I've took the decision to leave. Then this proposition came. I took advantage of the situation, planning to play a double agent role.

To clarify things, I'm planning to spy on the Crimson Clan for the Extinction, and give them false information about your plans/tactics.

Feel free to express your opinion about this here." Guy called himself barricades, so beware extinction intel Nalikill 23:14, 11 June 2007 (BST)

We are already working on in, but thanks. It shouldn't pose any big problem. http://crimsonclan.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=152
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 04:24, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Knights Templar

Heard you were having trouble with the IWM, and now PARD is. We are allies with PARD now, and wish to become allies with you. We will have approximatly 10 members coming to assist PARD in dealing with this issue. It would be nice to achieve allie status with you as well, and have our 3 groups cooperate in dealing with this common threat of yours, and now our threat. Is it possable to become allies? And more importantly, can we have a cooridninated effort up there between our 3 groups? --Poodle of doom 04:27, 7 June 2007 (BST)

An alliance would be great. It is good to hear that you are sending a few guys our way, and I'm looking forward to work with you. We are using Swearse Lane PD, St. Bartholomew's hospital, and the Pask Building as safehouses. Pask is constantly under attack by the zeds, but is currently under control. The Swearse/Bartho area is almost cleaned of grayskins. Feel free to use our forums for organizing and communications.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 22:11, 7 June 2007 (BST)

Just to let you know, it was PARD who originally asked for help. That is why we are coming. We just wanted to be able to work with you, and not make you feel as if we were stepping on anyones toes. Extending the same offers to you, are there any request that you have for us while in the area? Is there anything you expect our special ops team to acheive? --Poodle of doom 04:32, 8 June 2007 (BST)

Don't worry, you aren't stepping on anyones toes. The IWM is getting quite annoying again, so it would be much appreciated if you help us destroy them completely. Also, the zed group Extinction is approaching, so we are preparing ourselves to meet them. All friendly survivors are welcome to join the fight.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 20:23, 9 June 2007 (BST)
We just had a zed group invade our suburb, so it might take a little while for us to get up there. --Poodle of doom 20:37, 9 June 2007 (BST)

Dunell Hills Police Department

Hi there! I am Marcus Payne, one of the command staff members of the Dunell Hills Police Department. You may have heard of us one way or another, either by our awesome reputation or because we happen to be nearby. I have overheard one of your transmissions yesterday, and after checking about your wiki and stuff, I've come to learn that you've maintained an alliance in Dakerstown and have given Duce Nauks and his minions a hard time. Well done, mate! A few of us in the DHPD has had difficulties with the IWM, and they have claimed us to be an Unfriendly faction possibly for the reason that we've been affiliated with a now-long-gone group known as the Dakerstown Elite Army.

Yes, we've had some history in Dakerstown, and we've intended on securing Roywood as well, as early as January of last year, but it never really got round to things because of the Mall Tour, The Shining Ones and more recently Extinction come to pay us many visits over the past year or so. We've only begun to secure the Village north of us. Since you happen to be the first real survivor group/alliance that with actual control of the Malton northwest in ages, and that you happen to be the enemy of our mutual enemy, I'd like to make contact.

Let me know what you think. -- Marcus Payne 01:35 BST, June 4, 2007

Thanks for your compliments. Daker has pretty much stabilized now, and I'd claim it nearly qualifies for yellow on the suburb danger map. The IWM is almost crushed to pieces, although they still hang around as zeds. Most of the resent IWM sightings have been dead bodies strewn around our buildings.
The Clan is now counting over 35 members, and we are thinking about creating a second stronghold, this time in Roywood. We should be able to manage this on our own, but it would be a lot easier if you guys could send a few DHPD members to aid us in the suburb. An alliance between our groups would be great.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 20:49, 5 June 2007 (BST)

Defenders of Life

I think your ballsy, putting your strategy right out there so everyone can see, even the zeds! I feel that you may be inviting the horde to dinner but what the heck! lol Your plan makes sense IF you can get enough people to join in your fight. I will surely help when I am in your neck of the woods. (St Aden)

This is, as dumb as it might be, the normal way of discussing strategy etc. But of course, the forums would sure be better for internal discussion. The guys who tend to post at discussion pages are usually not a member of the group. If we have your support, as I think we have from what you've told me, we'll have a total of around 30 folks. That should be enough for some barricade maintaining.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 18:43, 1 May 2007 (BST)

I just tried to access the forum and it won't let me message is: 44 Access denied for user 'ffh_system'@'www02.jconserv.net' (using password: YES) Not sure what to do? (St Aden)

Urgh, not good. I'll have a look at it.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 23:24, 7 May 2007 (BST)

Same thing happened to me. Mikert000

problem solved! Must have been maintenance! (St Aden)
Scratch that - It's back! I was just on and now I cannot get back on. Same message as before! (St Aden)
I think your forum is limiting us on our usage! Or you are having some serious issues with it! (St Aden)

That's weird. I haven't seen this problem before, and now it's happening to several folks at once. You can't access it at all? Send me a screenshot, and I'll see what I can do.

Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 15:28, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Just a thought...

A comment on your barricade plan- With all those open buildings, do you really need a VSB entrypoint?--Labine50 MH|ME|TNT'07|Vote Vois! 16:08, 1 May 2007 (BST)

We don't need them. The factory would have been the most useful building to have at VSB, as it could be used both as an entry point as well as a powered resource building. Those VSB around the RP were intended to be easily reachable by newly revived folks, but none of the above are really necessary. Four buildings changed back to EH or open, the Whale Walk PD and the neighbouring warehouse are set to VSB, in case there should be any newbies present.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 17:51, 1 May 2007 (BST)

Strategy

It's flawed. Greatly. Having just a few barricaded buildings assures you that the zombies don't waste AP on busting open empty buildings. It also makes sure that there is a bigger population for them to feast on every time they bust in a building. Not to mention that it makes you an extremely easy target for PKers. Last I heard, the IWM were still amusing themselves with the destruction of Dakerstown. They'll have a blast attacking your few strategic points. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 16:34, 29 April 2007 (BST)

On the other hand, having just a few buildings barricaded means that PKers will have no place to hide in the suburb. Also, the survivors present in the area will stay in just a few buildings, making the job to maintain the barricades a lot easier. Maybe I'm wrong, but those who have seen the plan agrees to test it. If not else, it's a great opportunity to test a completely new way of planning barricades. Anyway, there are now added some VSB and a few more EH buildings close to the TRZ, bringing the total EH buildings to 9, and the total VSB to 3.
We'd like to have your support, but if we don't have so, we'll try alone.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan00:27, 30 April 2007 (BST)

What PKers are you trying to rat out anyways? Only 3 VS+2 buildings mean the suburb is extremely newbie-hostile. Barricading all to vs+2 is more AP-efficient and safer than having most of the suburb empty for but a few exeptions. We also hardly ever sleep in ressource buildings, it's almost asking to have your brain munched on. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 03:21, 1 May 2007 (BST)

Barricading all buildings in the suburb means that we'd have to spend an unnecessarily large amount of AP. We're just around 20 members, and there's a horde of zeds out there. We have to spend those AP on the buildings we need. And isn't the area quite newbie hostile anyway? When it comes to sleeping inside resource buildings, aye I know. But if we could get enough survivors present to maintain the barricades, it's acctually quite safe. Ever been to Orders Crescent PD in Raines Hills?
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 10:36, 1 May 2007 (BST)

But it takes less AP tp barricade from nothing to VS+2 than VS+2 to EHB, while it can sustain just as much damage. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 21:12, 2 May 2007 (BST)

True, but only the most stupid of zeds keep attacking the same VSB building after they've found it empty once... And I don't think I'll ever feel safe in a VSB building in this area.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 21:58, 2 May 2007 (BST)

When you are low on AP, VS+2 is better than an unbarricaded building, and will atleast give you time to find another place or bring it up to EHB. Also, there *are* newbs in Dakerstown, I don't feel like forcing them to leave. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 12:27, 6 May 2007 (BST)

Forum Issues

What's wrong with the forums? They have pretty weird html or some random language at there... Tried to refresh anyway JudeMaverick 09:16, 9 April 2007 (BST)

Try switching to Explorer or Firefox.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 15:48, 9 April 2007 (BST)

Solved it, looks like I have to use Firefox :( -- JudeMaverick 11:39, 10 April 2007 (BST)

Wanted List

I don't think you need any enemies this early, now do you? Just a friendly suggestion. --Anschluzer 15:30, 14 April 2007 (BST)

Truly. Thing is, you killed a member at a revivification point. Apologize, and you will be removed.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 21:24, 15 April 2007 (BST)

would you like to join the revolution?

I want to extend a invintation to join Viva la revolution and help make your goals make malton itself a better place and a new city, i will explain more, since i dont want to type out things i havn't put on the wiki page and then be told no, so, yes or no right now?--Darkmagic 01:03, 7 April 2007 (BST)

Reply given on their homepage.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 01:48, 7 April 2007 (BST)

what? --Darkmagic 02:47, 7 April 2007 (BST)

Reply given on their homepage: They should be treated as friends for now.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 14:40, 7 April 2007 (BST)

MPDG

...is a neutral service providing coordination and basic information on the status of PDs across Malton, created thanks to the joint efforts of the Malton Police Department and the Malton Hospitals Group. I would be grateful if you would like to contribute to the 'cause' by adding your group to the list and put the MPDG template on your page. More info on our page.

{{Malton Police Departments Group}}

Police Helmet1.jpg Malton Police Departments Group
This user or group supports the MPDG in their attempt at restoring law and order in Malton.

Regards.--MaxFloyd 11:44, 17 June 2007 (BST)

Urban Guerillas

Are you still operating in Dakerstown? I also want to know if he is one of yours. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 05:02, 14 July 2007 (BST)

Can't you read, mate? Put new topics at the top. As it is hidden at the very bottom of the page, I didn't notice it.
Nevertheless, apologies for not replying to this message. Your first question, partially. We're now based in Havercroft, although we still have a few guys helping out in Daker. Aye, Edward is one of our veteran members, and an officer. Don't you like him?
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 23:39, 10 August 2007 (BST)
I apologize for this not being at the top, I didn't see it when I originally posted this. As for the character mentionned, he was found killing at the revive point, and reported to be sighted in multiple suspicious events. Since he is one of yours, I do not expect this to be malice (unless you have reason to believe such a thing)... As for the question about Dakerstown, we were still seing a few of your tags and lagging members despite the announcement, so we were wondering what was going on there. -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 00:03, 11 August 2007 (BST)
If those kills weren't PKers or rotters, I greatly apologize. Edward is a great guy, and a veteran to UD. But even the best sometimes do mistakes, and this might have been one of those times. So again, I know any good reason for why he may have fired unless the targets were enemies or rotters. About our folks in Daker; they are not laggers, but have been given the mission of helping any living left in Daker.
Kris Eikehaug Talk | The Clan 14:08, 11 August 2007 (BST)

Havercroft Security Zone Proposal

Please keep in mind that this is the 1st draft, and we are still after 4 months writting all this out BUT

we do have a pretty sound and logistically strategic way of dividing the Suburb into 4 main zones(pretty much 5x5 squares with varriations to accomidate rescource building) each secured by one of the 4 Most Active groups in Havercroft(A.M.S,Crimson Clan,Cadieus Maximus,and the H.M.D.S). Other survivor groups will also play a role in security, as hopefully will civillians. Our plan is still being written, but a rough draft of the zones, and newly proposed revive points(2 the same, 1 moved, 1 new)are avaliable on my profile. Our fully outlined proposal will be avaliable within the next day or two.Please let me know if your Clan is interested--BLooDCLotT 03:12, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Dakerstown Barricade Policy

Hey, how's it going? I just wanted to find out a bit about this group's barricade policy for Dakerstown. It seem like you have your own (for example, every building here mentions that it will be unbarricaded), and I just wanted to know why it appears on every Dakerstown Building page rather than the official Dakerstown Barricade Policy which is already in place. I'm just in the process of cleaning up some of the suburb's wiki pages and need this clarified so that the most relavent info on barricades is up on the wiki. Thanks a lot.--Nick 21:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Malton Uprising

The Crimson Clan is cordially invited to the Malton Uprising. --Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|20:35, 17 August 2008 (BST)

Wiki renovavion question:

Hey guys, I'm in the process of renovating our wiki page, and I'm building a little section for allies. I was wondering if I might just nab the code for your recruit page, alter it a little, and stick it on our allies page? 'twould save me a bunch of effort trying to work something up myself.

Thanks, --Hardcore Rockabilly 09:52, 2 September 2008 (BST)

Feel free =D --Jsrbrunty 22:07, 28 September 2008 (BST)

Recruitment

If your group is still active and recruiting, please update the timestamp attached to your add on the Recruitment page. Ads with timestamps more than 14 days old may be removed without further notice. Thanks! -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 16:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I will do it now, but I fear I've left it too late. Have to add it again. heh In future, please add new communications at the TOP! Thank you! --Jsrbrunty 22:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

The Great Radio Group Massacre

Check-Mark-Reviewed.jpg Group Confirmed.
This frequency was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.


I know this is a random request, but it's for all groups regardless of size.

Linkthewindow  Talk  01:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

We are active on the radios, sometimes more than others. We'd appreciate being kept on the radio lists. Thanks. --Jsrbrunty 22:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed. Linkthewindow  Talk  23:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)