User talk:Tselita

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To all self-acclaimed 'Goons', the Malton Globetrotters, DCC, Karek, and The Grimch

Open message to members of The Dead (or self-acclaimed 'Goon'), any member of the Malton Globetrotters, DCC (whoever he's with at any given moment), Karek, and The Grimch

I'm writing this because Akule said it would be a good way to put you all on notice in case you decide to ignore the warning...

Stay off my user page, and do not troll here and harass me anymore anywhere.

Like the top says, if I want to listen to harassing, verbally abusive people directed specifically at me, I'd be on something like 4chan. And Grim_S, the only things I ever want to see on my user page from you better be in an official capacity, because your unofficial insulting, and commentary in spam form for the pure purpose of harassment are not welcome here anymore. Never were, actually, but now you're on notice about it.

If you don't like suggestions I make, that's cool. You can deal with it without the verbal attacks and coming onto my user page to spam it or (in Grimch's case) editting it. The sheer volume of comments I get from you guys makes it pretty clear that you're just doing this as, like Akule mentioned to me, a method of 'bugging the new guy/girl until he/she cracks.' Get a life and find better things to do with your time.

Any further harassment will be reported. Toodles :) --Tselita 14:25, 27 May 2008 (BST)

I'd like to register my astonishment that such a dramafest managed to pass me right by. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 14:34, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Well you weren't being a jerk and spamming my user page or trolling. Akule told me that I should write this sort of thing to prevent them from further vandalizing of my page and trolling. --Tselita 14:36, 27 May 2008 (BST)

See, if I'd known about all this chances are I would have joined in - which is why I'm so confused. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 14:39, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Hehe, it's okay. Maybe next time that a bunch of dweebs decide to waste a load of their time spamming and namecalling just to harass me, you'll get the memo :) As of now, you're as pure as the driven snow in my book. My apologies if you are the type that revels in being seen as a rebel instead. --Tselita 14:42, 27 May 2008 (BST)

P'raps. I haven't really encountered you before, and you appear to be intelligent upon first inspection, so I dunno whether I'd be able to work up the motivation to insult you. Plus, I'd feel dirty as hell siding with Karek and Grim. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 14:49, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Also, keep up the good work WRT deleting dickish posts. It drives people - particularly people like Grim (you know what I mean) - absolutely insane. ^_^ --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 14:49, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Hehe thanks. I know. The fact that he's going nuts over my deleting his posts is expected. Pathetic of him, but expected. Especially since he must be waiting at his computer hoping for me to post - he commented on this almost immediately. Like a stalker or something. So sad, too bad. --Tselita 14:52, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Holy Jesus FN Christ.... How the fuck did I miss this.... so what did Grimchie do?--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 04:39, 31 May 2008 (BST)

Basically, first he started by writing huge amounts of spam on my user page with the stated objective of making it unreadable (he out and out stated this in fact).

Then he pulled a suggestion which I was edit-conflicted by while finishing it up (with only one vote on even).

Next, he decided to try his hand at true hypocrisy by editing my page without my allowing it because he doesn't like the formatting rules I use for my Discussion page (as if his own requirements arent insane enough, and ignoring the fact that other people have the same formatting rules as me - for example, Iscariot, who I actually got the idea from since that format is easier to follow for long spammy novel posts (yes, I'm aware I make long posts as well, but I don't mind if they're broken up as long a you sign after each break and indent properly).

After that, he decided to try to declare me a vandal (of my own user page), failed in that attempt, and started whining on my user page when I put this new section up.

So I kept deleting his drek until he spazzed out and finally quit trying to spam me. --Tselita 22:07, 2 June 2008 (BST)

O.o--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 16:44, 3 June 2008 (BST)

Quite the show you missed. Hopefully there won't be a repeat --Tselita 16:47, 3 June 2008 (BST)

Oh, btw, join RedRum...--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 02:36, 5 June 2008 (BST)

Here's a free high-five for standing up to some of the community's most annoying/evil, though I also apologize for not having seen this earlier. You're the second user on this wiki I've seen (or third, as any of the cases may be) stand up to these Dead asshats. --Private Mark 04:06, 28 July 2008 (BST)

Prize

	A FREE COOKIE... OF EVIL!
	Airborne88 has given Tselita an evil cookie for Winning Hangman!. Go on... eat it.

• I R Teh Hangman Champion! F3@r My 1334 skillz! --Tselita 00:27, 8 April 2008 (BST)

	Hangman Champion
	Tselita has won Hangman 6 times (Status: Grand Dragon Ninja Master)

*Grumble-grumble*--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 06:46, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Funny- Not Snarky?

I belive you. You are the kind of person to be funny, not snarky. Grim, on the other hand... --UCFSD 15:20, 9 June 2008 (BST)

You have obviously never met #RedRum Grimchy....--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:31, 11 June 2008 (BST)

I tend to not want to meet Grimmchy in any incarnation --Tselita 23:30, 12 June 2008 (BST)

From Dufus to Genius

First off I'd like to apologize if somehow I am messing this up. I haven't been on this wiki long, getting this whole page-editing thing down is a bit confusing, so if I mess up, please hop on over to my talk page and let me know, using as many mean words as you so please. Anyways, I've been interested in making suggestions for some time, but I'm afraid that I really don't know how to go about doing it. In fact, I barely know how to edit a talk-page, so my wiki-skills are probably about as effective as a lightning-powered tape dispenser. (I figured out TODAY how to sign my posts. -.-) Seeing as how you have made somewhere around sixteen suggestions, you seem like the kind of person to ask. Again, sorry if this is the wrong place or I messed up your talk page, still getting the hang of this editing thing. Feel free to delete this if I'm an idiot. Oh, and by the way, I think you're really cool and stuff like that that a whole lot of newbies add onto the end here to butter people up and not yell at them. =) --Daren Elaine

First off, relax. Nobody here is going to bite your head off for messing up. Well, actually, that's probably a lie, there are quite a few morons who seem to keep their eyes on every community page they can for even the slightest reason, then complaining to the higher-ups when something goes even remotely amiss. Take Iscarot, for example. He had the indecency to report me for vandalism when I added a couple of headers to the Talk:Suggestions page. Sure, the report fell through, but still. If you're new, look around for the help sections. Particularly the Editing Help link at the bottom of the Edit page, that helps you learn formatting and stuff.

Generally, just don't panic. If you do mess up, you'll likely get off for it being a 'newbie' mistake. Just, try to avoid active vandalism. If you accidentally delete all the text on a page, check the page's history via the tab on the top of the screen. The wiki keeps tabs on edits, and more importantly holds the previous versions, so if you do screw up like that, you can put it back.

Enjoy your wiki-ing! --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 12:04, 11 June 2008 (BST)

Hope you don't mind

But I sort of nicked a line of formatting code or two from your user-page, and used it on mine. I edited it so that it was different, but still.

What do you think? --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 10:57, 12 June 2008 (BST)

To be honest, I didn't code most of my user page. Hhal did it for me. But I wouldn't mind anyway :) Oh... and your user page is awesome. --Tselita 17:04, 12 June 2008 (BST)

Not At All

No offence taken, my Good Lady :) It will indeed be a pleasure to see you join our merrie band, should you so desire. Also, I shall endeavour to find a dupe link for your suggestion, should one exist, post-haste. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 23:59, 13 June 2008 (BST)

Signature Thievery Et Al

Thank you for bringing to my attention the shocking theft of my signature, M'lady. Thankfully, the signature in question was insured, and a replacement has been hastily commissioned. It's refreshing to have intelligent (not to mention observant) commentators on the Talk:Suggestions page. I do wish you well with the levelling of your future murderer, and hope to see you around Malton. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 18:59, 16 June 2008 (BST)

Siggy Galore

You want a sig? Well...There's the easy way...and there's the hard way...

• The easy way: Hit "my preferences" at the top right corner, and type whatever you want in the nickname field. Except...I don't think you can add color to it...
• The hard way: First, make a signature page (like User:Tselita/Signature or User:Tselita/Sig)
  • Step 2: Add what you want using all sorts of code and whatever. Be sure to have a link to at least one of your pages in there.
  • Step 3: Hit the "my preference" thing and at the nickname field, put in {{Nosubst|User:'''YourUserName'''/Sig}}, then check off raw signatures.

That's pretty much about it. If you don't want to spend all that time looking for your sig page when you make it, I suggest adding a link to it in your navbar. And if you want, I'll make a sig for you, free of charge. I just need to know a few things... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:55, 16 June 2008 (BST)

Yes please. What do you need to know? --Tselita 20:01, 16 June 2008 (BST)

2 things. Color and the pages you want in your sig (besides your user page). --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:02, 16 June 2008 (BST)

Well the color thing I'd want Blue, Red and Yellow, like my user page probably. As for the pages in my sig, are they supposed to be a list of groups you are in with your characters, or can it just be groups I like? Would I be able to have something like you have with Quiz Winner, but instead with Hangman? --Tselita 20:08, 16 June 2008 (BST)

OK...you know what? Just leave me a list, and I'll make a few of 'em in my sandbox which you can look at. And when you're looking at them, you can go enie meanie miny moe for the one you like. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:12, 16 June 2008 (BST)

I'm still waiting for that list, you know... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:39, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I know - work's been busy. Haven't noticed I havent been too much on the wiki for a few days huh :) I'll get it to you in the next few days I promise. And thanks again in advance for the help --Tselita 19:43, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Take all the time you need. I have a good estimate of 70 years ahead of me... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:47, 23 June 2008 (BST)

fgsfds

For God's Sake Fuck Dis Shit. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 22:33, 17 June 2008 (BST)

LOL, that's even better than what I thought :) --Tselita 00:22, 18 June 2008 (BST)

blah

Well it is hard to ignore when you have a clique of people singling you out everywhere you go... But there's no point to playing their game. It just eggs them on. And wastes one's own time and energies. They've tried to get my goat in the past, and, yeah for the most part I just ignore them... other than the occasional snarky "intervention" like on Nubis' Talk page... Does ignoring them make them go away? Or stop? Nope. But it does mean one doesn't t waste time and energy on their junior high school bullshit... And what does it matter, losing some "face" (on fucking browser game!) to a bunch of immature wankers whom no one likes, anyway? It doesn't matter. Not. Fucking. Worth. It.

In any event, I think you ought to step back from it all... Goon shit and otherwise. Take a little break from the game, maybe, if you need to, shoot, I've done it, when I've found I'm letting meaningless stuff get under my skin... It happens... Also, frankly, your walls of text are annoying, and you should think about toning it down a bit... A nd sometimes you say some stuff about the game that IMO is totally wtf CENTAURS... But that's neither here nor there in so far as it's not PERSONAL. Because, like, I'm a grown up and not a Goon ;PPP ... But you also ought to step back from it all a bit, too, because ... for example ... I have a lot of objections to the way Grim handles himself... but the guy knows his shit when it comes to this game. And I've learned a lot from him, whether I like him "personally" in per his wiki persona notwithstanding... Writing off the knowledge possessed by a Grim or, especially, someone like karek (I actually like karek, and i don't think they belong on your "shit list") is IMNSHO shooting yourself in the foot in regards to learning the intricacies of this game. Well... that's my two bits worth, anyway... In any event... peace and all that other hippie shit =D --WanYao 01:50, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Probably won't take a break from the game mainly because there's not much anyone can do to me in the game to get my goat like they seem to do on the wiki, but point taken. I doubt I'll ever like Grim - he's just too rude for my tastes, and I really have never been very impressed with his knowledge, though I'm sure that being on the wiki as long as he has, he's contributed a lot, while I've only been on the suggestions page. But just so you do know, I tried to make nice with Karek a while ago on his user page with an apology, but it didn't seem to take.

As for the walls of text, I'm just rather wordy, but I'm not doing it to annoy or tease people - I just tend to have a lot to say when I get an idea for something. I agree with what you're saying though and I'll make an effort to be a bit less verbose. No promises on that part, though. :) Thanks again, in any case. --Tselita 03:17, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Suggestion Help

Excuse me Tselita, I'm back. Was wondering if you would mind giving me help building a suggestion I've been thinking about. It has to do with darkened buildings, and admittedly, it was inspired by your 'Leave the doors open' suggestion on the discussion page. I was wondering if you minded helping me work out the kinks with my suggestion. I've never made a suggestion before, so I don't know all the things I have to do with it, I know it has to be very precise, and that's where I was hoping to get some help from you. My suggestion, which deals with the problems of darkened buildings, is essentially, flashlights. Making a new inventory item. I have a very vague concept, and I wanted to hear your thoughts on it, since you sound fairly sensible. Here's my vague outline of it. Flashlights are inventory items that are never used up. They illuminate dark buildings in a way. They don't improve attack rates, since one could assume that firing a gun or swinging an axe while holding a flashlight might be difficult anyways. But they allow you to dump dead bodies, and begin repairs. I've been toying with the idea that they allow a slight (though not full) improvement in search rates in darkened buildings, but I don't know about that. Finally, the flashlight can double as an impromptu weapon. (Have you ever hit someone with a maglite.....heck, have you ever just picked one up? Those things are heavy, and could do some serious damage.) Unfortunately, this idea is very unrefined as is, and I could use some help narrowing down all the details, throwing out the stuff that would make it unbalanced, ect. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind partnering with me on this suggestion, we could brainstorm and refine the idea until it is good enough to turn in as a suggestion. Interested?

Edit:......Well, now that I look, it appears that this kind of suggestion has already been made before. -.- Oy. I need to read things a bit more....Ignore me. I'm going to help the other guy develop his suggestion. xD Sorry for wasting your time with this.--Daren Elaine 21:19, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Hehe it's no problem. Not a waste of time at all - I think your idea sounds great, though you might want to drop the slight increase in search rates part (since the only dark building that has anything usable to begin with are armories, and there are only two of them) If an armory is dark and not ruined, chances are the fort is in survivor hands and it won't be dark for long. If it's dark and ruined, chances are the fort dwellers have bigger problems than a dark armory:) I love the rest of your idea though.

Oh, and I'm honored that you asked :) --Tselita 21:32, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Well, thanks anyways, but since it would just be a dupe, I'm going to think about some other options. I hope you don't mind if I come calling for your help in working out suggestions later in the future. This seems right up your alley. Anyways, thanks for the help you've given me so far regarding suggestions in general. --Daren Elaine 21:40, 20 June 2008 (BST)

I'd be happy to. And it wouldn't be a dupe of anything currently in voting suggestions in a post-Dark-Update wiki, but once I put up my open door thing or danny puts up his flashlight to a vote, it probably would be.

If you need any help with anything else, just ask. I'm happy to help --Tselita 21:44, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Right. Thanks then. I've been toying with two other suggestion ideas. "Billy clubs" AKA Night Sticks (The clubs police officers use, hence, would be found in police station) and I was thinking, since police officers are trained to use them, perhaps there would be a skill to go along with it. My other current idea is "First Aid Kits as Improvised Weapons"....still haven't hammered out any major details with either of them though, so I may be back in a little bit to talk about them--Daren Elaine 22:39, 20 June 2008 (BST).

What sort of damage would billy club/night sticks do, and remember to include stuff such as search rate percentages, burden percentages, damage and accuracy. Remember that when you add anything searchable to a police station, it reduces the search rates for stuff like pistols, shotguns and ammo, so there would need to be some sort of benefit to using it instead of an axe or knife (max accuracy might be higher?). Not saying it's a bad suggestion, mind you. I'm just saying to keep that part in mind when making it. --Tselita 23:10, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Well that's the thing, I haven't figured that out yet. There would have to be some obvious advantage, but something that doesn't nerf either the knife or the axe without being overpowered or useless, is hard to determine. I'm still working out the kinks with that. On top of that, it's a weapon suggestion, so it'll probably get shot down. Still, it'll be fun to try. Perhaps making it better than the knife initially.......mm, I don't know yet.--Daren Elaine 23:23, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Not all weapon suggestions get shot down. I made a sledgehammer suggestion which got a huge amount of keeps and got into peer review (4 damage, 25% max accuracy).This is the link for sledge hammer.

When making melee weapon suggestions, keep in mind 5 weapons. The Axe, The Knife, the Pool Cue, the Crowbar and the Metal Pipe. Each of these have a different benefit which makes them useful. Any new weapon will have to fill a niche which these four do not currently fill.

• The Axe - moderate damage (3), high end-moderate max accuracy (40%). Starting accuracy is low (10%). Allows for three levels - 10%, 25% and 40%. 6% encumberance
• The Knife - low damage (2), low end-high max accuracy (50%). Starting accuracy is low end-moderate (20%). Allows for three levels - 20%, 35% and 50%. Useful in GKing and RKing as well because of high accuracy and GKing/RKing only depends on accuracy, not damage. 2% encumberance
• The Pool Cue - low damage (2), high end-moderate max accuracy (40%). Starting accuracy is moderate (25%). Only allows for two types of accuracy - 25% and 40%. Would be overall best weapon, but has a problem - 20% chance of breaking. 4% encumberance
• The Crowbar - low damage (2), low end-moderate max accuracy (20%), Starting accuracy is low (5). Only allows for two types of accuracy - 5% or 20%. Perk - more effective on barracades. 4% encumberance
• Metal Pipe - low damage (2), moderate max accuracy (25%). Starting accuracy is low (10%). Overall bad weapon but can be used to barracade loosely if you have no Construction skill. 4% encumberance

When I made the sledgehammer suggestion, it filled the niche of a high damage (4), moderate max accuracy (25%), low starting accuracy (10%) weapon. Also it's significantly heavier than the axe (9%), which was a factor as well.

What you need to do is figure out stats which would make the billy club/nightstick useful while falling into a niche which is not covered by the existing 5 'weapon types', or giving the new weapon a use in -addition- to being a weapon. I'll be happy to brainstorm with you to try to figure a niche like that for the nightstick, if you'd like. --Tselita 00:02, 21 June 2008 (BST)

Well, I would love it if you would help me come up with some ideas for it. That's the thing, I can't think of any niche that this weapon would fill that is not already filled by other weapons. But I would certainly welcome any help or thoughts you could provide. Feel free to take it to my talk page if I am cluttering yours too much. =) --Daren Elaine 00:08, 21 June 2008 (BST)

Low damage, high accuracy Cop-starting melee weapon? --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 00:24, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Too much damaged and it'll be spammed for overpowering an already strong starting class, too low and it'll be spammed for being useless. Thus is the nature on the Suggestions page. This suggestion is pretty much unsalvageable. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:29, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Hold on, lets throw the "Nightstick" idea out the window a moment, I just got inspiration. Vehicles. Okay, calm down one minute, it isn't actually what you think. Ever been running around and return to your safehouse, only to find someone overbarricaded it in your absence? This has led to the deaths of more than a few newbies. I was thinking though, even if you couldn't make your way into a building, couldn't someone hole up in the wreckage of some car on the street? Use debris to patch up the holes in windshields, ect, and hide in there a moment? My idea was along the lines of, if you're out on the street, and locked outside a building (Say you return to a building to find it EHB, and you only have 1AP left, not enough to get even into the next building over. You could 'barricade' yourself inside a car or other pile of wreckage. However, such a barricade would only be able to be barricaded so far, significantly less so than a building. I haven't yet decided on any further details, but this is my starting concept. Whaddya think?--Daren Elaine 01:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Normally vehicles tend to be on the 'never ever suggest' section, though mainly because it's dealing with WORKING vehicles. Using vehicles as makeshift safehouses? Interesting, though I'd do without being able to barracade it - you can't really 'barracade' a car. You can just roll up the windows until a zombie busts in. Innovative idea! --Tselita 16:37, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Been suggested before. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:44, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I'm going to withhold saying my regular 'GOD DANGIT ISCARIOT!' reply until you show me a link. Then I will say it --Tselita 18:47, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Shouldn't you be working girlie? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:58, 23 June 2008 (BST)

GOD DANGIT ISCARIOT! (Daren, Iscariot is unnaturally good at finding dupes, which is both helpful and at the same time incredibly iritating. You'll learn to both love and hate him for it) --Tselita 19:05, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Ah well, it was worth a shot. Back to the drawing board.--Daren Elaine 19:14, 23 June 2008 (BST)

It was a good shot, too. People Iscariot'ing your suggestion suck but it's a real time-saver. And yes, I use Iscariot as a verb. --Tselita 19:27, 23 June 2008 (BST)

You know, Daren...You can get a lot more help on the suggestion talk page... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:37, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I'm well aware of the Talk:suggestions page. It's just that there are an awful lot of goons haunting that page that are likely to spam any suggestion I even put up for discussion to kingdom come, and frankly, I have a low tolerance for blatant stupidity. Not that everyone there is a goon mind you, it is just that I'd just as soon discuss a suggestion with one or two people who I know to be reasonable before putting it out there with all the public (And annoying goons) to see. I fully intend to take any suggestions that I develop to the Talk page, but frankly, I'd rather hammer out most of the details with one or two people who aren't going to call me an idiot for having an opinion first, before I have to go deal with unreasonable people who have the mannerisms and vocabulary of an eight-year-old under the influence of airplane glue.--Daren Elaine 01:34, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Daren, you are more awesome than awesome. hehe --Tselita 00:54, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Why, thank you. =)--Daren Elaine 01:18, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Are you gonna say he's smexy next, too? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:22, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I'd prefer not, that'd be extremely awkward, and worse, I would have absolutely nothing witty to say in response. =/ --Daren Elaine 01:26, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Smexy, smexy, smexy. --Tselita 19:29, 26 June 2008 (BST)

You typed 5 tildes instead of 4 tildes again, Tselita. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:25, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Sorry, I was distracted because of how smexy Daren is --Tselita 19:29, 26 June 2008 (BST)

*Looks at Daren* AHHHHHH!!!! MY EYES!!!! THE FUGLYNESS BURNS MY EYES!!! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:37, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Umm......I'm not sure whether to run screaming, kiss Tselita's hand, or severely injure Axe Hack with some form of heavy unyielding cookware. Hmm, what to do.......--Daren Elaine 00:02, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Run screaming. You wouldn't want to hurt a PKer...Especially one with a very large army... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Sir, the mudkips are very preoccupied with the "El Toro" and turning it into toothpicks. --Tselita 00:11, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Excellent. And how are they doing at Hurricane Harbor and that safari place at Six Flags? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:46, 27 June 2008 (BST)

on new skills in general

(the reference to my vote did not belong in the above conversation with Daren, since it's referring to this section. It should go below the double line header, not above it. That is why I moved it below the header) --Tselita 15:22, 24 June 2008 (BST)

1. Keep/Minor Change - Hardly unnecessary, good sir, though I would prefer if instead of Diagnosis being the skill to do this, there was a skill in the Diagnosis tree which allowed infection detection instead. But this is a good idea either way --Tselita 17:54, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Do you appreciate that new skills tend to be bad ideas because veteran players can just gobble them up, while it just gives newbies more to spend xp on and shut them out of an ability? This doesn't mean all new skill ideas are bad, but it does mean many of them are, and most have to pass this "test". --WanYao 01:28, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Yeah, as someone who remembers being a new player rather recently, I do tend to take that into account. A new player will -always- have to get the basic important skills first, and it's why I rarely do come up with new skill suggestions. The electrician one is a good one though because it isn't self-serving, and newbie player are going to be more concerned with skills that help themselves, rather than others. Veteran Players with more XP to throw around are the ones more likely to be altruistic with their skill-buying, and also more likely to already be working in groups. The idea of a new skill on the diagnosis tree also fits this criteria, because it adds to something which newbie players currently can't do -anyway-. --Tselita 01:36, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Not aways...There are some newbies who buy whatever skill they want for the hell of it... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 10:45, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Yes. Those are called 'the stupid people'. Except for a few who are called "People who are actually bright, but are masochists and want to make things as difficult as possible for themselves." --Tselita 15:19, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Template making spree

So you're making templates for other users based on their name, huh? Too bad you won't find anything for "Axe Hack" when you do a Google image search. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:56, 24 June 2008 (BST)

You're next, actually. --Tselita 21:58, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Trust me. I doubt you'll find anything under "Axe Hack" in Google image search. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:58, 24 June 2008 (BST)

I already found something. Who said I only use Google? --Tselita 22:02, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Well...Google is a pretty popular search site... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:05, 24 June 2008 (BST)

And I'm gonna guess the image...an axe hacking something in half? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:06, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Guess again. --Tselita 22:14, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Got a second one for you --Tselita 22:19, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Are you trying to persuade me to promote you to Captain? From Private 1st class? It seems to be working... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:21, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Excellent, sir --Tselita 22:28, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Make one for grimchy ^^--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:18, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Trust me, you do not want me to make one for Grimmchy. It would not be flattering. I already made one for Karek - he was not amused, not at all. :) --Tselita 21:18, 25 June 2008 (BST)

The next person on my list is actually either Iscariot, Karloth, Bobo, Bronz or Nitro. Iscariot's is currently the easiest but I don't want to just have a picture of a bible character. Too easy. --Tselita 21:21, 25 June 2008 (BST)

That one would be pretty funny methinks. -- Cheese 19:22, 25 June 2008 (BST)

And I do have template ideas for Grimch, but I don't think I want to open that can of worms. Tried it with Karek already.... check out {{karek}}. Admittedly I made it after he started reaming me about the comment responding to Aeon in The Fall of the Wall suggestion. He's not a template fan, it seems. Okay I decided on the next one, hopefully the wiki will stay up long enough for me to make it. --Tselita 21:24, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Actually Woot, I made.... several for Grim. Not play on names, but.... still very descriptive of him. --Tselita 16:28, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the template! I put it up on my userpage, although a "Billy Club" is not a dance club, but rather more like a truncheon, but it is still cool! Thanks again!  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  19:24, 25 June 2008 (BST)

I know what a billy club is :) I just felt making something obvious like a nightstick would be too cliche, so I went a different, unexpected route :) You're welcome though :) BTW, I saw you on the game with my new PKer (along with the Dancing Banana) --Tselita 21:17, 25 June 2008 (BST)

I would have gone with this. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 21:32, 25 June 2008 (BST)

You're going to get one too Akule. And that's a good picture. A bit more thinking than what I did, but good :) I like the double meaning of the one I did though - enter at your own risk. :) --Tselita 21:39, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Oh, that'd be a good text addition to the bottom of that picture. I was really looking for a picture of some goats drinking at a bar like dogs playing poker. :D --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 21:40, 25 June 2008 (BST)

I just finished The Quiz Master's one (Bronz) And I forgot to put up AHLG's. --Tselita 21:45, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Heh. I can imagine that one. Travelosity's traveling gnome. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 21:47, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Yep. Check it out {{ahlg}} --Tselita 21:55, 25 June 2008 (BST)

I think Karek's template should have been a carrot... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:45, 25 June 2008 (BST)

	Warning - Those with no Sense of Humor up ahead - Avoid at all costs!
	This user is an old stick in the mud.

No, it should have been this, given his lack of a sense of humor --Tselita 00:51, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I'm beginning to suspect this user is a template making bot...So...who's next? Rictor Stilwell (aka Corndoghero)? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:34, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Of course I'm not. Beep. Boop. Beep. And yeah Rictor is next. --Tselita 15:45, 26 June 2008 (BST)

OK, R2...That's...nice to know...So who's next? Ron Burgundy? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:28, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Actually Bullgod was next - Ron Burgundy is 1) too easy (though I do have a picture perfect for him), 2) retired from the game ... so he won't really be able to bask in the templatey goodness --Tselita 19:33, 26 June 2008 (BST)

	I'm Ron Burgundy?
	This user isn't sure if he claims to be Ron Burgundy.

--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:38, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Yeah... I have a better picture than that. But that's one reason I'm not doing Ron yet. Also the fact that he doesn't know who the heck I am, but that hasn't stopped me from doing templates of other people in my list --Tselita 19:40, 26 June 2008 (BST)

"I'm Ron Burgundy?" --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:45, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I didn't do that one. --Tselita 20:01, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I know you didn't. I'm just quoting. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:09, 27 June 2008 (BST)

I voted on the Deletions page (voted Merge). It's scary that Cyberbob actually agreed with me... ;) Silly, silly, willy wiki drama... --WanYao 14:19, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Hehe yeah. So merging the Play on Names templates - that won't prevent other people from being able to use them on their user page right? I know a lot of the recipients put them in their main user pages already. And I made 4 9 more templates, all for Grim, and one for Gardenator --Tselita 14:33, 27 June 2008 (BST)

For Grim:

	Nothing but Hot Air
	This user is like a hot air balloon. Behind the Times Makes a Big Show of things but nothing but empty space up top Full of Hot Air

	Wanted: Sense of Humor
	This template redeemable for one Sense of Humor. This user desperately needs one.

	What a Load
	This user is so full of sh... crap.

	Your words are dumb
	This user is a blowhard.

	Moony!
	This user is like Cameron from Ferris Bueller. He's so anal - if you shoved a piece of coal up his butt, a few minutes later you'd have a diamond. For all I know, he's already done this. Sick.

	At least he has to hide his fugly face
	This user is a shmuck. He kicks puppies.

	How Precious! My precious.
	Actual picture taken of this user. No lie. I did not steals this precious template.

	Ah! It's the Wolfman!
	This user's back is too hairy. Gross.

	Again... at least we don't have to see the fugliness.
	This user so hairy, his mother named him Tribble! Burn!

And for Gardenator (or actually... any Goon)

	Troll Warning
	This user is a troll. Back under your bridge. Don't feed!

Just want to say thanks for including instructions and the proper category on the templates. That saves me a lot of work! --– Nubis ^NWO 15:47, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Oh yeah, the case in the brackets has to match the case you gave the page to work otherwise it might link to a page that doesn't exist. I'll fix the ones I find for you. --– Nubis ^NWO 15:49, 27 June 2008 (BST)

You know, you really should support my making templates. When I'm making templates, I'm not making as many suggestions. And I know how much you hate those.

Oh and you're welcome. I'll even make one for you maybe, if you're nice. Okay... not if you're nice. I'm not sure I could handle that. I'm wierded out that you're being nice to me right now, actually. I'll make one for you if you don't erase it. --Tselita 15:52, 27 June 2008 (BST)

I was wrong about the case thing. Sorry. You don't need to make one for me at all. I would be afraid of what would come up when you google or whatever Nubis. I picture Nubile coming into some how.

I'm not evil, just opinionated. You should understand that. :)--– Nubis ^NWO 15:55, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Yeah, I guess.

As for the templates - I promise if I make a template for you it won't be pornographic in any way. If not, that's fine too. There's more than enough active users for me to give gifts to. --Tselita 16:00, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Play on Name Templates so far

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Raccoon... Rakuen.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Robert the Robot. Robert. Bob. A Cyber-Bob.

	Play on Names This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? The Billy Club - The most exclusive club EVAH

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? A Fire Dancer. Cause your user page is HOT!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? A crazy monkey. You so crazy.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? It's a bird.... it's a plane... it's CHEESEMAN!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? LOOK BEHIND YOU! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

	Going My Way?
	This user is a stone cold killa. Picking him up when he's hitchhiking... may not be wise.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Alex Trebek depiction on Celebrity Jeopardy. A true Quiz Master. Has to deal with ... well... you've seen it right? A penis Mightier. The rapist. The list goes on.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Karek...Kirok. Soooo very stubborn. Whatever. I...AM...KIR-..KIRRR- ...KIROK! I... I AM KIROK!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? 73 - come on in! Always welcoming!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? The Travelocity Gnome. That's one helpful little gnome. Much better than Will Shatner.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his/her likeness. Get it? Aeon flux you! Kidding.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? I really hope you're faring better in RL than this picture indicates. Where are you? I need my hangman fix.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? A Kool Aid. Because you help people. Aid them. A-Kule Aid! Look, I wasn't going to put a picture of a hawaiian fish in a template, okay? It doesn't even make sense as a 'play on names' then. OH YEAH!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? T stands for Talk. Don't mess with da blue-bearded clown or you get a size 20 shoe up yo keister.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? I consider this a possible re-enactment of the tragic event. Like Bruce Wayne's parents being killed, but more personal.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? How Fortune-ate for you. In Soviet Russia, Fortune breaks you!

	Warning - Those with no Sense of Humor up ahead - Avoid at all costs!
	This user is an old stick in the mud.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Woot! There it is!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? I, WanYao. I Want You. Not in -that- way. The Uncle Sam Military way.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? If I may ask a sensitive question... did O'Brien get zombified?

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Boxy Brown says "Ah, I don't want no cake, I want me some pie! You understand what I'm sayin'?"

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? What's the real secret of Iron Man's power? Corn Dogs. Yep. True Fact.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Everyone's favorite trash artist from an 80's sitcom. Hey Mallory! Would you have preferred Nick Fury, Agent of Shield? Too bad. You get Nick from Family Ties instead. Check out the 80's hair.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? The Ion Cannon is powered by pure awesome. No, this doesn't look phallic at all.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? "It's a Sicilian message. It means Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes."

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Read the autobiography of Michael Knight. Read it! Or have KITT read it. One man can make a difference, Michael. And don't Hassle the Hoff.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Who's line is it anyway? Remember when PKing to keep the killing-line totally in-game. More fun!

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? George Carlin duped The Last Supper as Iscariot.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? House of the Bullgod. I think we know where.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? "Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person is a little like expecting a bull not to attack you because you are a vegetarian" - Dennis Wholey

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? American Gladiator stuck in Malton. Those batons don't do much - they're too padded for use against the zombies.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? WTF? What does a Namick warrior from Dragonball Z have to do with J3D?! Oh.... it's a Java 3D rendering. Clever...clever.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Okay. I'll explain. A Draka is a monster from World of Warcraft. If they ever attacked, I'm sure that you would be totally against them and protect the helpless from them. Against the Drakas. Con. Draka. Conndraka. If you think that's a stretch, imagine what I'm going to have to do for Karloth Vois. Yeesh.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with her likeness. Get it? I touch the fire and it freezes me. I look into it and it's black. Why can't I feel - my skin should crack and peel. I want the fire back...

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? It's a little known technical fact, but no personal home computer in the world would work without "S Wires". S Wires. Swiers. These wires are constantly sending information back and forth. Here we have an illustration of this wire. Note the suggestive curvature. Your computer will still crash all the time, though, because Bill Gates sucks.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Packets. Pac Eights. Pac8s. Aren't you so sweet?

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Easy Play on Names. It was either this or the porn site whitehouse.com. Say no to porn. Say yes to mass destruction.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Let me break it down. P.E.A.C.E. At Yale. Peace At Yale. Pes-at-yale. Pesatyel. Educated and "above the hoi poloi" peaceful. Much more so than those Harvard chaps.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Sean Connery is a gifted actor, who has made many great movies. The movie 'Zardoz' was not one of them. But Zardoz was a huge flying head which people feared... so that's sorta cool. Do not google this movie. Sean Connery's costume will be burned into your retinas.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? The Launch Arco. Okay still don't get it... Ahem... Will Wright's computer game SimCity 2000 allows the construction of four different types of arcologies. Launch Arco is the most sophisticated. Just like the user.

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? Proof positive that anime does suck. This template really draws you in, huh?

You have gone mad, I say! Mad! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:48, 25 June 2008 (BST)

"Part of being sane is being a little bit crazy." - Janet Long

Or even better:

“'But I don’t want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.

'Oh, you can’t help that,' said the Cat. 'We’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.'

'How do you know I’m mad?' said Alice.

'You must be,” said the Cat. 'or you wouldn’t have come here.'”--Tselita 22:59, 25 June 2008 (BST)

I sense drug abuse... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:06, 25 June 2008 (BST)

"Reality is just a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs." -Robin Williams. --Tselita 23:17, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Alright...What'd you do with my Mudkips' stash of steroids? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:19, 25 June 2008 (BST)

"Chuck Norris once took a urine test for steroid testing. It came up positive. When questioned, he simply laughed and said 'Where do you think steroids come from?'" - Conan O'Brien --Tselita 23:32, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Are you trying to persuade me to promote you to military advisor? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:43, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Depends, it is working?

"So, influenced by these advisors and this hope, I have at length allowed my friends to publish these works, as they had long besought me to do." - Nicolaus Copernicus --Tselita 00:12, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Um...Let me consult with my current military advisors, Zhuge Liang, Simi Yi, Zhou Yu, and Sun Tzu... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:11, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Let me know - I could really use that quarter. --Tselita 01:57, 26 June 2008 (BST)

The pay isn't a quater...It's a gold bullion... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 10:58, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Even better, sir

“More gold has been mined from the thoughts of men than has been taken from the earth.” - Napoleon Hill --Tselita 15:45, 26 June 2008 (BST)

...Are these supposed to be funny? You seem to keep making them with no signs of stopping. What is your goal in all of this? Get every active member of the wiki and unfunny "plan on words" template? Please, for the love of all things holy, stop. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 16:28, 26 June 2008 (BST)

"No Sicilian can refuse any request on his daughter's wedding day."

I'm not sicilian, and this is not my daughter's wedding day. Gotta keep going. And... PLAY on words. And yes, that's my goal. I've been dared. --Tselita 16:35, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Please...don't... --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 16:38, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Sorry Sonny.... you just got hit. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse. --Tselita 16:44, 26 June 2008 (BST)

...I hate you...so very very much... --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 16:49, 26 June 2008 (BST)

"Today I settled Family business, so don't tell me you're innocent" - Don Michael Corleone --Tselita 16:56, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Poor Son-Bun :( --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:02, 26 June 2008 (BST)

"Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the family again. Ever." - Michael to Fredo --Tselita 19:05, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Ah great...Now there's probably a hit on you from the zombie mafia... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:40, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Meh.

• "Certainly, he can present a bill for such services. After all, we're not Communists. But he must let us draw the water from the well." - Barzini to the other Dons
• "When you gotta go, you gotta go." - McCluskey to Michael

--Tselita 20:08, 26 June 2008 (BST)

lol...Thanks Tselita. Now I am even more famouser Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 22:31, 26 June 2008 (BST)

You and Karloth Vois are hard names to do templates on. Why couldn't you name yourselves Skippy and Zippy or something? Happy you like the template :) --Tselita 23:22, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Ah! two for the price of none! just the way i like it, thanks. XD --Bullgod 23:20, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Got one more thing for you actually. Not a template. Something like what I gave to Rakuen. --Tselita 23:22, 26 June 2008 (BST)

ah yes, well you would be surprised how similar they can be.--Bullgod 23:42, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Hehe --Tselita 23:46, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Communist? Um...Excuse me while I replace my army's flag... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:11, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Pardon? What? --Tselita 00:53, 27 June 2008 (BST)

*Cough* --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:55, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Axe, check your user page under your template please - thanks --Tselita 15:26, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the template! I just got back from a break from Urban Dead and this was a very pleasant surprise! I am starting to wonder if I have acquired a stalker; that's the forum avatar I use just about everywhere. --_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 17:23, 27 June 2008 (BST)

You're welcome :) That picture was one of the coolest ones I found online from the templates I made. Thanks --Tselita 17:26, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Can you make Arcology a template? Bonus points of from a video game. --Arcology 19:23, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Yes sir! --Tselita 19:34, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Done. Check your template on your discussion page --Tselita 20:24, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the template, btw. I tried to get on yesterday and thank you but the wiki was down.--Nallan (Talk) 01:45, 28 June 2008 (BST)

You're welcome. I went on vacation for a week and had a blast. Back to make more personalized templates for people. Thought up some good ones. --Tselita 16:58, 3 July 2008 (BST)

I don't suppose I might be able to receive a cool Template?-- Techercizer ^(Food) _(TSoE) 02:44, 22 July 2008 (BST)

Free Time

You, good lady, certainly seem to have an abundance :) I must reconsider a career in the legal proffession. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 23:38, 25 June 2008 (BST)

She does seem to have that, doesn't she? Good thing I had studied law for the past 2 years...And will be continuing that next year... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:42, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Legal secretary. It's the best of both worlds. Good pay, lots of spare time when cases aren't ongoing. And the lawyers still depend on you because you do all the work they're too lazy to do :) Yours is coming up next, btw. --Tselita 23:43, 25 June 2008 (BST)

So tell me...are you gonna make one for all, and I do mean all, the users on this wiki? I won't be surprise if you finish that in a week! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:44, 25 June 2008 (BST)

An honour indeed, I look forward to it. Quite my fortunate day, today. Just got a nice new signature over at the PK Hub, now a template here. Super --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 23:47, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Axe: It's possible, sir. "Idle hands are the devil's workshop." - H.G. Bohn --Tselita 23:54, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Bob: Old Yiddish Proverb: “When good fortune calls, offer her a chair." --Tselita 00:01, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Thinking up next template now. Go read yours. --Tselita 00:10, 26 June 2008 (BST)

28,282 users. Have fun. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:48, 25 June 2008 (BST)

You have no idea just how much free time I have when there are no cases ongoing, huh --Tselita 00:56, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Many thanks for both the template and the proverb, m'lady. The template now sits proudly on my userpage. Must admit, it was much better than the possible plays on 'Fortune' I came up with. I had an image of a quartet of tuning forks, or some such. I digress. Keep up the good work. *tips hat*

P.S. Am I right in assuming you're ready to unleash your PK character on the rest of Malton? --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 00:27, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Not quite yet, my good sir - I need to raise her 3 more levels then I will be ready. Her name indeed shall strike fear into the hearts of men. Probably into the hearts of women as well. Maybe even the hearts of small furry animals. --Tselita 00:44, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I'd say, don't go PKing yet until you have the 2 AP saving skills, Lurching Gait and Ankle Grab. They're lifesavers. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:13, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I know. Those are two of the ones I need still. --Tselita 01:26, 26 June 2008 (BST)

And have you seen POWER TO THE PKER? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:28, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Just read it. --Tselita 01:39, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I am loathe to say this... but... Only DORIS has recognised the truth and gravity of the recent passing away of George Carlin. And for that reason I have become convinced that there is only one true path to justice... its name is DORIS. --WanYao 17:44, 26 June 2008 (BST)

George Carlin died?!? God I need to pay attention to this stuff! --Tselita 17:49, 26 June 2008 (BST)

George Carlin Tribute

This User Mourns for Carlin

" 'Older' sounds a little better than 'old,' doesn't it? Sounds like it might even last a little longer. ... I'm getting old. And it's OK. Because thanks to our fear of death in this country I won't have to die - I'll 'pass away.' Or I'll 'expire,' like a magazine subscription. If it happens in the hospital they'll call it a 'terminal episode.' The insurance company will refer to it as 'negative patient care outcome.' And if it's the result of malpractice they'll say it was a 'therapeutic misadventure.' "

He didn't die - He had a terminal episode. --Tselita 18:11, 26 June 2008 (BST)

<3 George <3 --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:05, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Feel free to put this template up on your page as well :) It's {{carlin}} --Tselita 19:08, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks

Thank you very much for the template, I'm honoured. Although Whitehouse is actually my family name. :P Anyway, glad to hear you are getting less bored, kill that boredom or it will kill you. - User:Whitehouse 16:55, 27 June 2008 (BST)

“I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom.” - Thomas Carlyle

Also:

“Boredom: the desire for desires” - Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy

“The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.” - Ellen Parr

--Tselita 17:06, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Welcome to the Play on Names template fraternity/sorority of active wiki users :)

Still trying to figure out what to do for Karloth Vois. Freaking hard name - I have 3 pictures, not sure which is the best - none particularly 'wow' me. --Tselita 17:02, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Let me know when you finally figure it out, it'll be interesting to see. - User:Whitehouse 17:42, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Yeah... Still thinking of it. Grr - why can't he be named skippy or Beppo or something. I did manage to do Pesatyel though, so I'm happy about that. --Tselita 19:01, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Administration Pages

Stop trawling them trying to start drama, they exist for a purpose and that purpose does not involve furthering petty disputes or spamming insult templates. Continuing that behavior may lead to future vandal escalations.--Karek^maps?! 20:48, 27 June 2008 (BST)

I merely was agreeing with Rakuen and Karloth Vois, and I object to Grim's anger towards puppies. --Tselita 20:52, 27 June 2008 (BST)

One more time!

For what? For an archive. Seriously...This page is getting longer by the second... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:58, 27 June 2008 (BST)

No point in archiving it until this is all done. Been a bit busy with the templates and countering lame-jerk insults with quotes.

On the plus side, the deletions page about the templates is probably taking up more bandwidth than the templates are. :) --Tselita 21:16, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Here's an idea...Move it to the talk page! As in the deletions talk page! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:19, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Heh if it were up to me it never would have gone to the deletions page in the first place. Nor would it have gotten that long if Grim didn't start with the diatribe and his little troll lackey Gardenator didn't start going to base jew jokes. :) Doesn't matter much to me - it makes him look like an idiot. All but 2 people love the templates. One, Karek, erased his (so I just keep it on here as my Play on Names creation (because I like it). The other, Sonny, who brought the Deletions attempt, didn't bother to erase it. Yet he has another template which itself says 'This user thinks he is Sonny Corleone.' How many people use that? :) I'll try to move some of the older stuff to Archives, k? --Tselita 21:25, 27 June 2008 (BST)

You know...this "war", shall we say it, between you and Grim has really gone on too long. I seriously believe you two need to go to Arby's... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:28, 27 June 2008 (BST)

I'd prefer doing that to Gardenator first. Bit easier. Not sure how Arbies work though for either of them. --Tselita 21:33, 27 June 2008 (BST)

It doesn't matter if you take them to Arby's with their consent or not. If you take them to Arby's, if they decline to participate in the case, I believe they have to be represented. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:31, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Don't forget that if they don't agree on an arbitrator the case cannot proceed and is dead in the water.. it has happened before. - User:Whitehouse 13:27, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Wasn't there a case where a sysops appointed the arbitrator? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:57, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Here you go

	A FREE COOKIE
	Corndog has given Tselita a cookie for making a cool template.

Here ya go, hope your templates all don't get deleted, these guys are taking their collective grudge too far. Good luck.--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 21:54, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks :) If you'd like to help, go to Deletions and vote Keep. Enjoy your template :) --Tselita 21:51, 27 June 2008 (BST)

I did, thanks, and sorry for forgetting to sign.--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 21:54, 27 June 2008 (BST)

No problem - I knew it was you. Your template was fun to make. Amazing how bad personal grudges can be when dealing with the immature. --Tselita 21:59, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Looking Good

Quite the support your getting, m'lady. If this is a personal vendetta against you, looks like it's backfired...--Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 22:03, 27 June 2008 (BST)

I muchly appreciate all the Keep votes and the support, my good sir. Verily it is a vendetta against me, but tis a laughable venture they embark upon. Fools such as Gardenator and Grim make thineselves look ever the more foolish with their hate and rude speech and ignorant ways.

To quote Samuel Johnson, "The natural progress of the works of men is from rudeness to convenience, from convenience to elegance, and from elegance to nicety." We are at the level of elegance, they are stuck at rudeness. I bow to your wisdom, as always, my good sir. --Tselita 22:15, 27 June 2008 (BST)

.... plus.... who doesn't like free, personalized templates? :) --Tselita 22:16, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Karek. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:30, 28 June 2008 (BST)

I AM KIROK! Well he deleted his instead of bringing it to deletions, while Sonny, for some reason, kept his on his page. I think my template for him is more apt than his own Sonny Corleone template :) Both are only very sparsely used. But mine has a godfather quote :) I'm back from vacation btw. --Tselita 17:00, 3 July 2008 (BST)

Thanks

Thanks for the template I got a good 'ol laugh out of it, and sorry for responding so late, computer troubles. --BKM 00:29, 7 July 2008 (BST)

Template Idea

I have an idea on how to cut down on the number of templates. What you can do is make one master template then just fill in the fields, similar to the flagbox template and cookie. Give me a few and I'll rummage one up. -- Cheese 21:28, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Here's what I've come up with: Template:PlayOnName. All you need to do is replace the bits in bold with the bits you've got. -- Cheese 21:48, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Either you died or not

If you did, sorry for killing you! If you did not recently fall by my hand, you have a secret admirer! http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1267957 Either way, it might be best to stay out of Old Arkham, yes? That sort of profanity makes a Knight stop and blink. Good luck on your suggestions! --Vandurn 17:55, 18 July 2008 (BST)

Most likely that isn't her. She's probably idled. She hasn't been on for 2 weeks. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:50, 18 July 2008 (BST)

I was going to make a post, Here we go; User:Cryptosporidium/sig, Fin. _■^■ 21:16, 18 July 2008 (BST)

What, did I Edit Conflict you? My bad...First come, first serve... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:22, 18 July 2008 (BST)

No, No. I was thinking about it earlier, But was busy. _■^■ 21:23, 18 July 2008 (BST)

There's no telling if Cryptosporidium made that fake Tselita account. Although whoever made it probably knew about Tselita's account. Tselita, when you read this, don't ask me how I got it. The Profile Database (a link could be found on the Rougues Gallery webpage...) is ever so useful when finding someone... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:29, 18 July 2008 (BST)

Run by S.Wires, Apparently, Though it was created by this fellow (I believe)
It acquires names and the associated numbers with them via Swiers' SIM. Moire can be found at here. _■^■ 17:31, 15 August 2008 (BST)

Hi

Hi there, sorry for my wiki coma! I am sure everyone thinks I ate a .12 guage for breakfast one day and ended all the madness. Sadly, this is not the case... In fact, I am alive and well. I have met and fallen hoplessly in love with a russian woman. And aside from the bi-monthly pregnacy scares, all is well. I am quiting my construction job and going to work for a logging company, blah-blah-blah. Bought some property and am building a house come next spring. Bought a new truck.. Um... Caught 5 rainbow trout this weekend and saw a grizzley bear and an osprey.. Um, ya.. I suppose that is about it. I am not really home very much anymore and don't really turn on the computer much. But, hope all is going well for you all in UD. Are "the Dead" still around?? Sorry, just ca't keep up with this stuff anymore. Thanks for the template!! Very cool.--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 06:54, 21 July 2008 (BST)

:-P --Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 19:45, 14 August 2008 (BST)

Ruskies for the win, is there any chance you're living in Georgia? :P --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 00:57, 15 August 2008 (BST)

Chillin' like a villian in brittish columbia. I am scared of bigfoot, so I try to avoid georgia.--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 06:22, 16 August 2008 (BST)

Other Georgia... >.>; btw... lolcanada --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 06:34, 16 August 2008 (BST)

I don't like bombs and stuff much. Mooses are better. Canada. ha--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 06:39, 16 August 2008 (BST)

My 'brainstorming' page

Since almost every person who ever voted on one of my suggestions ever has been complaining that I've come up with nothing but crap, I created this brainstorming page for me to develop ideas before I put them on Talk:Suggestions. I've got a couple of ideas up there already, and some feedback would be appreciated. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 11:45, 22 July 2008 (BST)