Suggestion:20080127 Bodybuilding Skills

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20080127 Bodybuilding Skills

Crotchtacular 13:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Skill change
Suggestion scope
Zombies and survivors
Suggestion description
The survivor skill Bodybuilding would be broken into the two civillian skills 'Weight Training' and 'Bodybuilding', with 'Weight Training' a prerequisite for 'Bodybuilding'. Each skill would increase maximum HP by 5, and add +5% to hit with all melee (non-firearm) attacks, stacking with any other skills. Both these skills would carry over to zombies just as Bodybuilding does at the moment, and everyone with Bodybuilding as of the change would get the skill 'Weight Training'.

The flavour, of course, is that your bulked-up survivor or zombie, as well as being more physically durable, has honed their physical strength and thus close-quarters combat ability while pumping iron. This is a mild buff towards zombies, as they are more dependant on melee attacks than survivors, but in turn have to spend time getting two skills as a survivor rather than just one.

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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep - Author keep. --Crotchtacular 14:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep - Zombies need AN ADVANTAGE! URBAN DEAD IS UNBALANCED! Survivors have it easier then Zombies. The game should be even! --The Gecko PKer 17:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Unnecesary zombie buff that would also require unbuying of bodybuilding.Studoku 14:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Kill - I was expecting something a bit more innovative for some reason. Zombie attacks don't need buffs. Survivors don't hardly use melee weapons, except in emergencies. So no. --Vandurn 14:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
3. Kill - no. Survivor skills should not aid zombies.--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 16:43, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
4. Kill - in my opinion weight training would make your melee attacks more powerful, not more accurate. fission mailed --Scotw 17:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
5. Kill - Who lifts weights in a zombie apocalypse? Well, unless you're Will Smith. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
6. Kill - If anything, you should change the amount of damage dealt and not the chance to hit. (Big strong people aren't any more likely to hit you, but when they do it will hurt.) Also, remember that the number of people sitting on at least 100 extra experience and already possessing bodybuilding will mean that the day this is implemented, most of the UD community will simply have an attack buff. --Uncle Bill 18:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
7. Kill - Body Building if fine the way it is.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  19:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
8. Kill - This isn't needed, the hp bonus is a lot more than it seems. And the flavor kinda sucks.--Karek^maps?! 21:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
9. Kill - I am Will Smith, and that offends me! BoboTalkClown 00:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
10. Kill - How exactly does being stronger improve your accuracy with weapons? -- Iscariot 13:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
11. Kill - New skills should go along side or after existing skills, not inserted before an existing skill. Also we're talking about two different variables (accuracy and endurance) that are not necessarily tied. In fact in real life, there is usually a trade off one for the other. --_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 20:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
12. Kill - It should improve damage to some degree, rather than accuracy. --Ciaran Deckardson 21:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
13. Kill Bodybuilding is not an area of the game that is in need of work or additions. -Inky 04:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
14. Kill - Why create two skills that do exactly the same thing? Why not just add a Weightlifting skill that increases the accuracy with Body Building as a pre-requisite? (flavour wise it would make more sense too as something like aerobics can make you physically fitter and therefore hardier without giving you muscles like Mr Universe)... even then I'm with the strength equals ouch not accuracy people but in theory could be renamed Martial Arts or something if accuracy was what you were after.--Aiwe 19:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
15. Kill - This seems sort of cluttered, isn't what I would have expected in a selection, and other things other people have said. --Diano 20:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - Not a mild buff to zombies, this is a quite significant one. This would benefit zombies more than survivors, and that's something survivor skills should not do. Besides, strength does not increase accuracy. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 13:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

   RE: Vigour mortis apparently disagrees. --Crotchtacular 14:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

   Vigour is more than just brute force. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 14:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

2. Spam - as above --~~~~ [talk] 14:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
3. Crotchtacular, in a bad way - I've always been for the reduction (or removal) of cross-skills, and anyway this is a big zambah buff that isn't needed. --Funt Solo ^QT 16:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
4. Spam - As Funt. Zombies just got a major buff, they really don't need anything else. --Hhal 18:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
5. Spam - With the title, I did expect something different. This is potentially game breaking I'm afraid and would benefit zombies more than survivors. -- Cheeseman ^W!RandomTalk 19:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
6. Spam - Zeds need a buff, but this just aint it... --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 23:54, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
7. Spam - Game-breaking. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 00:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
8. Everyone with the current skill would get 2 skills for one. That's a total of 200XP for 100XP! The newbies might not appreciate that... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 14:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
9. Spam - As above.--Kolechovski 18:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)