User talk:Jorm/Archive

DEA Related Comments

Hi there, I'm a new character called "notodrugs" and I thought I might join your clan since it seems like we have a lot in common for Role Play. I assume your DEA stands for Drug Enforcement Agency and I think that would be a cool RP clan for me to be in. Anyway I am a medic in Heytown. This is my profile: http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=362168 How can I join your clan? Are there any MDEA safe houses around Heytown? I don't have free running though so that might be a problem. Thanks. --Notodrugs 0545, Jan 13 2006 (GMT)

DHPD and the Desk Sergeants

I'm deleting your addition to the front page of the DHPD. It is inaccurate, I never said the Desk Sgts didnt heal or Baricade. They do. As per the E-mails with Kevan they are desegnated as active charachters that dont interact with each other. I know this is a Wiki, but please consider addressing the edits regarding off site issues with me or the MOD known as Novelty Conndraka 19:51, 23 March 2006 (GMT)

If you insist on doing whatever, at least put it in section 1.2 where it belongs. Conndraka 20:13, 23 March 2006 (GMT)

jorm, see if the changes made to our P&P meet with your aproval. Dunell_Hills_Police_Department_Policy_and_Procedures Conndraka 00:21, 25 March 2006 (GMT)

NPOV - Desk Sergeant Controversy

Hi, I'm Darth Sensitive, Internal Affairs Chief for wiki management and Yea Drive Precinct Chief. I notice that you have been heavily editing the the DHPD main page. I would like the edit wars to die down, so I'm wondering if all interested parties can have a rational discussion here on the talk page about what that portion should read. Or, you can talk to me on my talk page.

Darth Sensitive 21:43, 25 March 2006 (GMT)

Image:Confederate.png

Did you mean to roll it back twice like that? --Mia K ^(sotss) 20:38, 15 April 2006 (BST)

I didn't mean to roll it back at *ALL*. I clicked "rev" on one point because, you know, that usually means "see revivion" and it did a rollback. That wasn't what I wanted, so I rolled it back to the version that it had been. I was trying to browse the image history and apparantly the controls are different for graphics than for text.--Jorm 20:41, 15 April 2006 (BST)

I try to avoid touching things I don't know about n pages that aren't mine ^^;; no worries though, I fixed it. --Mia K ^(sotss) 20:45, 15 April 2006 (BST)

(Comment suppressed.)--Jorm 20:51, 15 April 2006 (BST)

Watches General attempt to correct the already corrected.* Wooooooow.... --Mia K ^(sotss) 20:52, 15 April 2006 (BST)

My warmest thanks

Thank you so much for fixing whatever wrongs were done to the glorious poem on the 5th of November page. All I can do is apologise for that which is out of my control, as I did not add the whole of the poem as you see on the page. I have merely entered the 'speeches' that are marked by the date of the 5th each month (Although time zones sometimes equate to the date appearing as the 4th). I'm sure whoever added the entire poem will be greatly appreciative of your alterations. Codename V 14:43, 21 April 2006 (BST)

SEP

I'm promoting my newest inane cause today, the scorched earth policy. Somebody created it and I coopted it since those mincing sacred ground panzies are getting out of control. Support death in malton! --Zaruthustra-Mod 03:14, 27 April 2006 (BST)

	Scorched Earth
	This User or Group supports the Scorched Earth Policy & acknowledges that all revive points must be razed and their inhabitants killed.

Vandal Banning

I don't go looking for drama, but when it's pointed out to me, I'll bring it to the mods' attention. And Saromu agreed to take the pages down after I put him on the vandal banning page, for clarification. Just letting you know so you don't, you know, jump to conclusions or anything. -Wyndal ^{(talk)-(W!)-(SGP)} 23:44, 28 April 2006 (BST)

Well, let me know when you put everyone in front of the firing squad for making templates, and I'll believe you.--Jorm 00:07, 29 April 2006 (BST)

For retardedly offensive templates? I've voted delete on 90% of the templates to come up. And some of the people on this wiki *should* be put in front of a firing squad, as far as I'm concerned. -Wyndal ^{(talk)-(W!)-(SGP)} 00:11, 29 April 2006 (BST)

That's just it. You're willing to put saromu up because of a page, but I don't see you putting the template makers up for the same thing. Both create bad-taste content, but only one gets reported for vandalism? That is, shall we say, "bull sheet." Either put everyone up there or no one; otherwise you're holding some people to different standards than others.--Jorm 00:15, 29 April 2006 (BST)

Actually, I've just decided to start taking action. I've decided that from this point on, people who post those sorts of things deserve to be put on the vandal banning list. Anything before yesterday has amnesty. -Wyndal ^{(talk)-(W!)-(SGP)} 00:19, 29 April 2006 (BST)

Ah, of course. That absolves you of everthing! Well, I still think it's a stupid, drama-inducing thing to do and you're merely adding to the non-stop stream of pointless bullshit that seems to be flowing out of everyone's mouths.--Jorm 00:22, 29 April 2006 (BST)

I resent the implication that I'm required to take action against events prior to when I changed my mind to do something. I might hate wars but that doesn't mean that I need to go out and picket to protest Vietnam today. And just so you know, 'everyone' doesn't mean 'everyone but me'. -Wyndal ^{(talk)-(W!)-(SGP)} 01:34, 29 April 2006 (BST)

RRF Page Revert

"Screw leadership. But we listen to Petrosjko, sometimes." Just to let you know, Petrosjko agreed to putting that back. Since I don't want to get into an edit war with my own horde (or anyone else, really) I'm letting you know. --Sirens^{T RR} 01:52, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Nervie's the guy in charge of our wiki page; I'd let him make choices like that.--Jorm 01:54, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Will do, thanks. --Sirens^{T RR} 01:57, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Modship Bid

Would you support me Jorm? It's been a while since *the change* - has it sunk in yet? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 11:56, 1 May 2006 (BST)

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what change you're referring to? As far as a modship bid goes, I don't really know much about what your position is on things, really. I'm not someone who cares how many edits a person has done (the wiki purges take care of that criteria as an issue, as far as I am concerned).

The only thing I can think of offhand is your stance on Saromu's "Epic Battle" thing, which you and I disagree on (I haven't read it, but I understand that you were a target in the satire, and are thus understandably pissed about it). Right now, I think we need less arbitration and vandalism reports than more, and he certainly didn't meet the criteria. However, a disagreement here is not something that would prevent me from thinking you'd be a good moderator.

The fact is that I don't know enough about your personality, so I can't vouch for you as it sits (not that my opinion carries much weight). However, I'll keep an eye open now and we'll see where we are. --Jorm 12:21, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Fair enough. And in answer to your question: *the change* was the rather massive transformation I underwent after great thought. I used to be quite the rabblerouser (love that word), and got in lots of arguments. I changed to become a whole lot calmer, more humourous (see my Suggestions votes) and a lot more likeable (I hope). But, I respect your opinion. In all honesty, I'm not going to make a bid for a few weeks (maybe 2), and I was just trawling for opinions. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 12:28, 1 May 2006 (BST)

My Bid

I'm sending this message out to everyone who had spoken on my modship bid. Recently it was suggested that I wipe the slate clean and start over with a new bid. I decided against this for two main reasons: First, I don't want to risk causing any drama, and Second, I don't want to risk people on either side not being heard the second time around.

I am, however, asking anyone who has spoken to take a moment of thier time to review the case and deatermine if they need to change thier vote or, more than likely, keep it as is. Thank you. --Sirens^{T RR} 15:02, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Grigg Heights

sorry about putting the latest news in the wrong place twice, ive been editing the roftwood news page for a while and its different there the latest news appears at the bottom, thanks for correcting my mistakes dude. --Emoch Noh 2

No problem, mate. Good luck in Griggs! We can use the help.--Jorm 05:26, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Misconduct Page

"Stop trying to be like Amazing." I hope I'm not the only one who sees the irony in that comment. Please don't try to start something where there isn't much to begin with. --Sirens^{T RR} 04:57, 6 May 2006 (BST)

You.... are in no place or position to make any type of comment like that to me. Clean up your own house.--Jorm 05:01, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Drama template

While watching what is apparently another drama-fest waiting to happen on the Talk:Moderation/Arbitration page, I thought I'd point you towards a little template I made (or the small version (thanks, Brizth)). Just thought you might like it. --Bob Hammero ^ASS•U! 19:32, 16 May 2006 (BST)

FUN POLICE

Just thought I'd drop in to say your FUN POLICE gag on the Deletions page is cracking me up bigtime :D --Cyberbob240^{CDF - U!} 12:47, 19 May 2006 (BST)

RRF website problem

I just tried to load up the RRF member list at http://ridleybank.org/members/, but it seems to be displaying source code instead of the page itself. Might want to fix that. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 20:12, 22 June 2006 (BST)

Whupz! The result of some overzealous pruning in the httpd.conf file for the nexuswar server on my part. Fixed.--Jorm 06:54, 23 June 2006 (BST)

Stop reverting please.

If you're so eager in reverting any update that's possibly positive for survivors, you could as well revert all 'happy zombie shouts' on the Ridleybank page.

Stop removing news updates in a biased way, or I'll take this to a mod.

Thanks.

Robin Robinson 13:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not a survivor page; it's everyone's page. I can't be arsed to do your writing for you, but I can and will revert survivor propaganda. Feel free to take it to administration; I've been doing this for, oh, well, since at least September of last year, so they're familiar with me.--Jorm 19:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, silly Jorm. I just did you one better by removing CMS from the top of the Darvall Heights page... why can't people get that this is an NPOV section and not a "Pimp my Group" page? Gah.--Gage 07:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Problem

I have been cleaning up the pages that relate to the different battles over Caiger Mall, and I need your help. There are two pages with history pertaining to the second battle of caiger mall. First, there is the Second Siege of Caiger Mall and then there is the Chronicle of the Second Siege of Caiger Mall. Having two pages to do one thing is just stupid in my opinion. I want to consolidate them. Either way, I will delete the second one. I am just wondering on which page the history is more accurate, because on the final page I want to include only the best information on the wiki. I wasn't there at the battle, so could you help me make the call? Leave what you think on my talk page. I am asking a few others who were involved their opinion too. Thanks.--Gage 05:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok problem with the timeline.

Blesley Mall was never evacted. It was destroyed by 2 Pkers who used Action Replay codes. Lokk it up like i did.--Apex 19:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Since the woman who was in charge of the evacuation was a member of the Barhah Brigade (of which I was the leader) and a member of the RRF's war council, I know what actually happened there. I don't care whether or not a bunch of people claim to have done a bunch of PKing; that's not what happened.--Jorm 19:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

On the mall tour Page it says "Blesley Mall, Gulsonside - Was wiped by PK'ers as the Tour was coming, never truely conquered. "

Ferther up the Page it says "XXX Blesley Mall, was never actually assaulted by the Mall Tour! A pair of cunning exploit-explorers/playtesters/cheaters whipped the Mall entirely by using the now-fixed Action Overloading bug. The Mall Tour was blamed for the wipe, however, and did occupy the mall for a moment, but Blesley cannot have been said to have been conquered by anything more than clever PK'ers!"

Then kevin Put the same thing on the Action Overloading page. If you are saying that what he siad was wrong well then my little pal I will have to say that you are ill infromed or lying. And I do hope it is not lying.--Apex 20:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Please clarify

I'm not sure what NPOV really means for you. For all I can say, the Caiger Mall page starts blatantly with a pro-zombie preambule. But what is more sad is that this fight for 'NPOV' (whatever that means) really takes any flavor out of the page itself.

PS. Just wanted to point you to the Darvall Heights page, and a certain news entry by Bassander on Dec 23. I can't wait to see you reverting it for blatant POV :/ Then we can hapilly enjoy an edit war, as I personally like the entry very much. Bluetigers 05:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

PS2. I made the news entry as bloody dull and factual as possible. What exactly is your problem? Would you care to elaborate?

The current entry is fine. I will continue to revert survivor-centric crap just as I have done for over a year now, so be prepared and be NPOV.--Jorm 05:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Caiger Defender List Revert

Hi. I recently made a change to the Caiger Mall page, and you reverted it. I removed Fire Brigade 47 from a list of Caiger Mall defenders. No malice to the Brigade intended. Just a revert of my own.

The original list, made by another user, did not mention FireBrigade 47, although it did link to CMAF page, CMAF was created by the Brigade.

The list was then changed by user:FireWarlord. I noticed and reverted it.

Just clarifying. --GrownUpSurvivor 19:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Caiger Mall Page

Seriously, what is your problem? Every time something that you remotely disagree with gets put up, you delete it, even if it's in the NPOV.

"Put up the status numbers for everyone or no-one."

Had it ever occurred to you that it was added up on the wiki so others might edit it and add their information which I did not know? It's a wiki, people are supposed to edit it.

First, sign your edits. Second: lemme know when your data is useful to people other than survivors.--Jorm 22:59, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Pardon me, I'll do that from now on. I put the charts up there so it might be useful for people other than survivors. I added what I could, and I was hoping that other people might add what they could. - Goron40 21:19, 26 December 2006 (EST)

Yeah. You're not going to convince me that you do not have the numbers about who is inside the buildings yourself, and that you couldn't put it up yourself, being as you're a member of CMS. Put that data up with it, and I'll allow it to stay.--Jorm 04:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's his job top fill in all the data. He went out and scouted and it's his choice to what data to put in. He did not *delete* zombie data to give undue weight to his faction. Moreover, his information is FACTUAL. Whether it 'helps' one side or another is besides the point. A zombie player could easily do the exact same thing inside Caiger. But perhaps we have a case of zombie 'apathy/laziness'? :/ Bluetigers 04:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Moreover, I was dead at the time. - Goron40 21:19, 26 December 2006 (EST)

So, when you have live information, post it. Until then, it stays off the page. Better yet: keep it off the page and put it on your group's page, where it should be, anyway.--Jorm 05:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

You've completely missed my point. But, I can see there's no arguing against a stubborn fool. I happen to be alive again, and can get the count. If it had been left out, I'm sure some survivor inside would have filled it in, but you just can't understand that concept. I would enjoy it if we didn't cross paths again. - Goron40 21:19, 26 December 2006 (EST)

See, was that so hard? No. Keep your edits NPOV and non-survivor-centric, and we won't have problems and you won't have to deal with this "stubborn fool" again.--Jorm 18:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Reduce AP Cost For Murder Victims

It doesn't really nerf PKing. What is your objection to it? People have seemed unwilling to accept any kind of preemtive defense against PKing or any way of tracking down killers. This just reduces the cost to repair the damage, more or less leaving the PKer and the victim unaffected. --Jon Pyre 09:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

When I put someone down, I want them down for the full count and EVERYONE pays the penalty. You can't convince me to support this.--Jorm 09:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Zombie Fun.

I had a funny feeling that place was no good, Good job in St. D's Church in Wyke :) . You nibbled on my alt a bit, made me laugh when I noticed he was killed by you. By tomorrow he'll be back to his usual Shoot survivor to 1 hp and run scheme. Admiral Hawkins/Battlebot

Militant Zombies

Are you the guys spraying stuff in Ridleybank about Barhah and understanding?--Lachryma^☭ 05:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

No, actually. None of us have been near Ridleybank for around 2 months.--Jorm 05:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I saw something about "Asking the meaning of Barhah is unBarhah" recently, and then I saw your (cool) new-ish horde...Well, nevermind then.--Lachryma^☭ 05:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

That's quite possibly something done in reaction to some of our recent pronouncements.--Jorm 06:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

You guys must have some pretty crazy forums/metagaming going, if random people start spray painting propaganda for you...That's pretty awesome!--Lachryma^☭ 18:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Interview Questions

Note to sysops, these questions have been posted with Jorm's permission

So, give me a history of How the Barhah Brigade became the Militant Order of Barhah....

We (the Brigadiers) had taken a break from UD for a while. Mostly, it was because I got involved with the Nexus War launch, and without me, the team petered out. A couple months back, though, I found myself with more time, and felt like "getting the band back together" after a night of reminiscing with some members of the team.
So I cranked it back up.
At first, we assumed that we would continue with the RRF. However, so much had changed in the way the RRF operated - it's policies on death cultism and zombie spying, for example - that we didn't feel that it was the same horde. The RRF today espouses beliefs that are antithetical to the beliefs that we instilled in the horde at the beginning. So we broke off.
For a while, we just rumbled around the city, taking joy in being able to change suburb colors on our own. But then, one day, we hit upon a role-playing schtick - Radical Barhah Fundamentalism. There was (is) some drama about us expressing our opinions on this matter (some people take our opinions too seriously, I think), and we ended up in a position where we felt we had to "put our money where our mouth is".
That, combined with the dwindling zombie population at the time, led us to create a new horde - one that espoused our beliefs as to what fair and honorable play is.
Now, there is nothing wrong with death cultism or pk-ing or anything like that. Don't get me wrong; I was the founder of the Malton DEA. We just didn't think it was what the RRF was supposed to be about.

What are the Current and Future Plans for the MOB?

Eat brains. Grow strong. Butcher harmans. Spread the light of the True Barhah.

Why Should baby zombies join the MOB?

First, we promise lots of brains.
Beyond that, my team has extensive experience with levelling the young. One of the founders of the MOB was the original head of the RRF Department of Homeland Security, even - and he brings all of his techniques to the table. On average, it takes us two or three days to bring a level 1 zombie up to level 5, where they are no longer considered "baby" and can actively contribute to the horde, either as an Inquisitor, a Missionary, or a Shepherd.

Suppose I want to Join this MOB, Where do I sign up?

We have a forum on barhah.com; there is a sign up thread. But really, all one needs to do is change affiliation to "Militant Order of Barhah" and read the current orders thread.

You're also the creator of NexusWar, yes?

I am.

How Then is your time divided between the two games?

Urban Dead is a game I play; Nexus War is a game I run. They're two different mindsets. NW takes up a greater amount of time than UD by far; the UD stuff is relatively easy, time-wise, and serves as a break from the stress of NW.
I'm a game designer by trade. I get paid to do this stuff, so it works out well (I have a couple other games in development, but not public yet).

Who was Fred Dullard, and what have you done with him?

Fred Dullard is a man I have a great deal of respect for. He is/was one of my most trusted "advisors" in many areas - from UD politics to NW rule sets to coding to you name it.
Fred suffered a bit of a medical problem a few months back, and had to drop out of everything.
I miss him terribly.

You've been in UD awhile and sampled many fine brains, Whose taste the best?

The best brains we've had in recent memory were from the Fear of Fridays Street Team, actually. They were a lot of fun to play with.
In the past, I'd say CoL brains (both new and old), or old PARA guys.

Whatever Happened to Petrosjko?

Real life, I suppose. He had a business that he was trying to get off the ground, and it started taking up more and more of his time.

Do you run any survivor alts? If so, How much would it take to get you to join the rangers?

That's an interesting question. I haven't played a survivor in a while because they take more time. I play survivors on "hard mode" - that is, I make sure the guys have Brain Rot, so that death is a real, serious pain in the ass. So, I have two running around the city right now but they're both zombified - one from the Malton DEA and one from the Guns of Brixton (both groups are defunct).

Finally, The question We've all been waiting for: DHG, great leader, or greatest leader ever?

Behold, I am coming soon,
Bringing my recompense,
To repay each one for what he has done.
I am the alpha and the omega,
The first and the last,
The beginning and the end.

Is it your DEA leaving these tags?

Shutting down NT is the only way to win! -DEA

Tagged on a wall in N Blytheville.

Just curious cause if it is, I want to talk to you about this. --Balistic 21:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not us. The Malton DEA is defunct. Anyways, if it was us, it would say "Malton DEA" and not just "DEA". --Jorm 22:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, I was hoping it was.....Did I see that your starting another undead horde?--Balistic 22:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes. The Militant Order of Barhah.--Jorm 23:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Quarlesbank

If you have information about the NT Buildings there, please update the NT Status Map - its like the suburb danger map, but more objective, and more equally useful to zombies. --S.Wiers^ctdp_NTmap^x:oo 11:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

UD forums

hey thanks for moving Feral Undead up a notch, i was never shure if i should do that myself. -Bullgod 09:17, 14 April 2007 (BST)

Malton ATF

There is some interest among PKA and RedRum members in starting a one-time tour of Maltons Pubs. You would be surprised how many minors are being served! Originally conceived as a sort of Prohibition Movement, I thought borrowing your old theme would spark more interest. I had lots of fun in the DEA(and Arz too!), and thought you might be interested in helping out. Trying to get things started by mid May. Give me a shout either here. or PKA forum. http://z7.invisionfree.com/Pker_Alliance/index.php?act=idx --bbrraaiinnss 11:07, 23 Apr 2007 (BST)

Ridleybank Danger Level

I dont like it, but I'll change it tomorrow unless you or someone else say something against it. (must i direct you to User_talk:DangerReport/Ridleybank ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 02:49, 25 April 2007 (BST)

Trenchcoaters with no concept of history. They change it, and then newbies come running, and get killed when the zombies stand up. Necronet is a bullshit way to check for zombie status, as it only shows scanned zombies, and cades in a suburb mean shit when there aren't people inside the buildings.
So this is all survivor machismo.
But whatever.--Jorm 08:56, 25 April 2007 (BST)

Thanks for the fix

... shame scum like that can't be hunted down and nailed to trees! --Honestmistake 11:17, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Mind a company?

Hi there! We had a great time with you, guys, tearing down Kinch Heights. There are not so many of us, but I guess we can still be helpful. I thought that we could follow you for a while and have more fun together. Do you have any further plans after Kinch Heights? --JohnRubin 07:49, 26 April 2007 (BST)

Excellent! You're more than welcome to tag along, and every claw helps. As for the MOB's plans, we're likely to hang out in Kinch Heights for a bit longer - there's plenty of food still and we haven't hit what we call the "bejesus" level (short for "we've trashed the bejesus out of this place; time to move on"). You can follow the current orders in this thread on our forum, if you like, or just listen for the groans.--Jorm 08:30, 26 April 2007 (BST)

Super cool! Let's have some brains! NAH MANZ! BARHAH! --JohnRubin 20:05, 26 April 2007 (BST)

You

Still around? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:15, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Yes. We are murdering people in Kempsterbank.--Jorm 05:40, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Ridleybank UBP

while barricades are forbidden in Ridley, we cant forbid them to try to build them. The Ridleybank page is meant to remain neutral, therefore the UBP made by the Cannonball Crew should remain there. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:04, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Absolutely, positively, one-hundred percent disagree. These kids shit all over every goddamned suburb page in the entire wiki with survivor-centric bullshit. A barricade map is not neutral; a barricade map is pro-survivor. This is the one fucking suburb in all of the goddamned city that can be called "pro-zombie"; I don't see why we have to endure what is essentially an attempt to insult us - and you know that's all it is: an attempt to insult the zombie population.--Jorm 03:47, 29 May 2007 (BST)

i know most kids just mess around with ridleybank to insult us. But the UBP made by the Cannonball Crew was there for a looooong time already (i was even surprised to see their name there, i thought they were inactive already) and no one ever got offended by it. Besides, like Caiger, the harmanz took control of our suburb for some time, so i guess they have ~some~ right to put that thing there. Trust me, i dont like that thing as much as you do, but i must side with the harmanz in that point in order to preserve some 'neutrality' in this article. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 15:06, 29 May 2007 (BST)

I will let it stay up another month. Then it goes down.--Jorm 20:14, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Gunning for Ya

Jorm, why don't you show your ugly mug down in Kempsterbank? I'll be gunning for you, Prophet. Don't dissapoint me. I'm expecting a challenge from you and your MOB.

--Travis Wells, Knights Templar 01:17, 19 June 2007 (BST)

How about you and yours stop zerging the shit out of us so its a fair fight? 'Cause we're gonna leave soon if it doesn't stop.--Jorm 01:36, 19 June 2007 (BST)

Zerging? Are you sure Knights are zerging you? Our group does not support such activities. If you can provide me with proof of this, I'll gladly take it to my superiors and put a stop to it. Either way, I'll be launching my own personal investigation into your claims. I believe in a fair fight and enjoy it when you MOB boys roll into town. Always proves to be fun. It's a shame a couple jerks have to ruin the fun for everyone. --Travis Wells 07:36, 19 June 2007 (BST)

We are absolutely positive of this. We're being *completely* zerged to hell and back, but not all of it is your group. But there are some (like, "BigJD5" and "Big JD5"). I know we have profiles; I expect there are screenshots someplace as well. I'll have someone compile a list if you like, but it's really *awesome* to watch some guy drop a gennie down, revive three people, and then have three alts of his (ID numbers and create dates within minutes of one another, same group, same spelling errors) come in and do the same - within the span of three minutes. Just fuckin' *peachy*.--Jorm 16:21, 19 June 2007 (BST)

I know JD has two accounts, but he never has them cross paths (i.e. zerging). He typically keeps the one up in Tapton, completely out of the suburb of Kempsterbank. We know there are some non-Knights around like MK1 through MK7, who is the exact same guy with seven alts. But as far as myself and the rest of the Knights know, none of us have been zerging. I'd still like to see any evidence you compile, though, because I want to be fair with this and hear your side of the story.

Yes. That's why we have screenshots of him zerging us. He keeps his guys far apart. Sauth is the one who is the gatekeeper on this; we'll see what we can do.--Jorm 18:19, 19 June 2007 (BST)

Got that evidence yet? You can post it here or on my user discussion page when it is ready. --Travis Wells 07:52, 22 June 2007 (BST)

JD5 is a zerger, and had both of his characters defending the Whitenoll building on June 7th. That's why both accounts are in my contact list now:

Heck, perhaps you could explain what both JD5s are doing in the Knights Templar in the first place. That's already extremely dodgy. Links to both profiles for the curious: Big JD5 and BigJD5. --Kali Magdalene 00:53, 30 June 2007 (BST)

I should point out that JD5 is the only one we've seen from the KT zerging us. I don't want to hear the "but he's 10 squares away" bullshit line, either: it's the same battle theatre, and you and I both know it's cheating. The bulk of the zergs (and, seriously, there were lots were coming from other groups - Hong Kong Golden, etc. - just sad. I mean, seriously sad.

We're not overly angry about it, btw. It's sort of a "fact of life" in the RRF and the MOB and a couple other "honorbound" hordes. Like getting headshot every night. It's not a big deal, just the way the game is played. But we'd like to see it reduced or removed entirely, which is the only reason it's brought up. Sadly, since there are no deep-level in-game measures to prevent it, the only method that seems to work is peer pressure.

Getting zerged is no fun for us and (ultimately) no fun for them; we will just leave and find a classier opponent and they will get to, I dunno. Pick off ferals or something. Test their mettle against lone zombies and get PK'd. And there are "classy" opponents; sometimes they take some education as to what that actually means, but in the end, we are far more satisfied with fighting a smart, fair group (BAR is one, btw). And I'd like to think they have more fun fighting us.--Jorm 01:09, 30 June 2007 (BST)

I was familiar with JD's two accounts, but the proof you've shown doesn't prove that he did zerg you on the date you specified. I'll present your case to my superiors and see if I can get some answers, though. Honestly, it's a shame that so many people in Kempsterbank have to ruin the fun for both the MOB and for me and my fellow Knights. As I said before, I quite enjoy it when the MOB rolls into town. The two times you've attacked since I joined the Knights were very fun for me. You and your inquisitors and zealots put up a very tough challenge and I enjoy it. --Travis Wells 06:48, 1 July 2007 (BST)

The fact that he is even allowed to have two guys in the same group is ultra mega k-lame anyway. While I don't know that there is a screenshot of both his dudes in the building at or near the same time, it *did* happen (I believe my soldiers, and they have a reputation for honesty) - and since he's allowed multiple guys in your group, it pretty much looks like the KT endorse the practice (and even if no one ever zergs a player, they're zerging the stats). It provides the appearance of dishonor, which is alone pretty bad. We're not asking you guys to punish him; we're just pointing out the issue.--Jorm 17:44, 1 July 2007 (BST)

Of course it's not absolute proof. I'd have screenshots if I'd seen both of his characters on the screen at once. Unfortunately, he came in in the early part of the attack, and came back in with his alt a few minutes later. Multiple members of MOB saw this happen during out strike, when we were all refreshing fairly frequently. I'm sorry if you don't believe me (or any of the number of other MOB members who saw this happen) simply because we don't have proof. Just ask yourself - what does it gain us to lie about it? What does anyone in MOB gain from falsely accusing one of your members of zerging? And why is JD5 allowed to have two accounts in Knights Templar in the first place? Like Jorm says, that's already lame. The fact that he keeps one of the characters a whole suburb away in Tapton means he can easily bring it in to shore up a fight after his first character is done. Seriously, we completely trashed everything we hit in Kempsterbank. We gave a really good showing, so saying "So-and-so zerged us" isn't going to save us any face here. Falsely accusing people just creates bad blood. We're not going to fabricate stories just to make our opponents look bad - we'd much rather our opponents looked good, even if bloodily divested of their brains. And, the fact is, the only way for me to get those profiles was to see them in action...which I did, within about 15 minutes of each other, in the same building. --Kali Magdalene 05:06, 3 July 2007 (BST)

PS: Told you I'd get you.

Did you? I didn't notice.--Jorm 22:13, 29 June 2007 (BST)

(OOC: nice. I'm actually pretty tough to find in the 'burbs we hit, btw. I don't usually hang with the main force - not because I'm afraid of death or anything, but because I tend to scout more and/or run training missions and the like). That has to be a shot from at least a week ago, though, yes? I've not been killed in a while that I remember and we've been in Tapton)--Jorm 01:04, 30 June 2007 (BST)

It was on June 27, 2007 at 1:16 AM inside the Dobbs NT building. The hard part was finding you. Once I did, though, it was a cake walk to finish you off. Likewise, it was a cake walk for you to just stand back up for 1 AP (since I don't have the headshot skill yet). It was just a goal of mine, though. I wanted to see if I could do it, and I did. I hope to see you in combat again, though, soon. --Travis Wells 06:48, 1 July 2007 (BST)

NW question

You're probably tired of hearing questions like this all the time, but when you search for the exploration badges, do you have to be inside the building, or can it be outside? I scanned through the wiki, and I didn't see anything saying it had to be one or the other.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:01, 16 July 2007 (BST)

I'm sorry, but I have to have a policy not to answer Nexus War questions outside of some specific areas. Once I start doing so, it never stops, so there has to be a line. There is a forum dedicated to answering questions, as well as a wiki. I'm fairly certain this question has been asked before on the forum, so a search there should bring it up.--Jorm 17:08, 16 July 2007 (BST)

Understandable. I looked on the wiki, but completely forgot there was a forum. Thanks.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:22, 16 July 2007 (BST)

"Militant Order of Barhah starved out of Wyke Hills"

Just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it? Glad to know y'all are still out destructifying South Malton. I'm a LUEser, and we can never do as thorough a job as the MOB. Nearly every place we leave almost immediately turns back light yellow or green because we don't stay around long enough to attract ferals. You guys seem to rip the whole place to pieces before you move on and then leave behind enough other zombies to keep it dangerous for a while.--Insomniac By Choice 21:28, 26 July 2007 (BST)

Harh. We have internal slang that refers to the state of our target suburb. After an assault begins, there is a point where we call them "Backbroken" (the organized resistance has been crushed and the needle supply has been exhausted or slowed). After that, we enter "Scorched Earth", where we systematically crack all the "lesser" buildings that house all the high-level targets (banks, libraries, etc). After that comes "Bejesus Mode", which is shorthand for "we need to get the bejesus out of here because there ain't no one to kill".--Jorm 07:37, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Beautiful. Although I would have thought "backbroken" referred to the cowboy movie and that by that you meant you were busily anally raping the suburb. Not that I thought you guys were queer, of course.--Insomniac By Choice 08:06, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Oh cmon!

0.-. You want us to take all of that to deletions? --User:Axe27/Sig 17:52, 29 July 2007 (BST)

Yup.--Jorm 18:43, 29 July 2007 (BST)

Wow, Thats just evil. --User:Axe27/Sig 20:29, 29 July 2007 (BST)

Perhaps. But I consider criterion 12 to be the greater evil.--Jorm 20:44, 29 July 2007 (BST)

Jihad? --User:Axe27/Sig 01:38, 30 July 2007 (BST)

Headshot "nerf"

What would you think of a headshot alteration that didn't affect AP but made a player receive the equivalent of "swaying" while on the ground? That is, once killed and headshotted, a zombie player couldn't move until the next AP regeneration (in other words, at the most 30 minutes). Most of the time, this wouldn't be an issue because a player wouldn't be logged on while his zombie had been killed, but as a defensive weapon during a siege, it would help survivors tremendously and might even change the order of defense to make killing zombies primary again. I'm asking you this mainly because I know you're completely opposed to headshot and believe it should be removed/refunded. I'm a zombie player myself and know it would completely suck to get hit with one of these while trying to break in. It would in a way completely negate ankle grab in real time combat, but it wouldn't steal AP away from people and might even be more fair to new zombies who really can't afford the 15 AP hit. Anyway, I'd appreciate your thoughts when you get the chance.--Insomniac By Choice 18:09, 1 August 2007 (BST)

No. Gamebreaking.--Jorm 19:05, 1 August 2007 (BST)

BoB revert

Errr, I made a rollback on your changes but I didn't expect that that new spiffy Administrational tool didn't let you leave a comment stating the reason, so here I explain myself so you don't think I did it out of pure asshateness: The article already is listed on the Category:Historical Events category, so I guessed that someone just forgot to add the template and so the user that added you before it wasn't looking for any trouble (I hope). It's no big deal anyways, if there's enough reason or the event losses his status we'll remove it again. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 01:39, 11 August 2007 (BST)

Jorm....

Dude. It's getting a little out of hand, don't ya think? I mean, Vantar is doing his job and all, but, I mean, Jorm? --User:Axe27/Sig 05:31, 30 August 2007 (BST)

Shit. I totally like Vantar, and I totally don't want to give him extra work.--Jorm 06:03, 30 August 2007 (BST)

Thanks, your policy looks like it could do the trick, nice work - Vantar 01:04, 31 August 2007 (BST)

SHITFIT

Jesus Christ. Is everyone in the DEM throwing a shitfit these days because someone's dog crapped on their lawn? --User:Axe27/Sig 04:04, 26 August 2007 (BST)

It appears that way, yes. I'm not entirely sure why, either.--Jorm 04:10, 26 August 2007 (BST)

Sonny musta pissed them off on Brainstock.He made KotD angry as hell too. --User:Axe27/Sig 17:19, 26 August 2007 (BST)

few things

first off good job on causing so much death in such a short time in ketchelbank. however i am a little confused by your messege "Danger report was already submitted; it just got worse" at the time i undid Grogh edit i could not find this report. now i fully agree the suburb is very dangerous, however i must insist on going through the proper channels. i now see a report on the ketchelbank suburb page, but don't you need to post a report on the suburb aswell? thank you for your time and i hope the MOB enjoy there time at maltons finest zoo!--'BP^Tmz 23:10, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Well, I'm not aware of a rule that requires a posting on the suburb page, so there aren't any "proper channels" so to speak. That report on the suburb page was what I'm referring to; it was already there - no need to restate what was already said.--Jorm 23:12, 16 August 2007 (BST)

ah, well as i already stated that report was not present at the time i undid Grogh's edit, but since one is there now, all is well. thank you.--'BP^Tmz 23:16, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Yes, it was there, since I know when I made it and I know when Grogh made his. Mine was made at 16:47, 15 August 2007 (BST); grogh's was made at 04:46, 16 August 2007 (BST). That's a fully 16 hours later.--Jorm 23:19, 16 August 2007 (BST)

I see.the report you are referring to is the August 14 one. after you made said report you changed the dangerlevel to dangerous as seen here [1]. forgive me, but i thought each and everytime you changed the danger report you needed to post on the subrub page. and your August 16 report was not up at the time.--'BP^Tmz 23:26, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Okay. I can see that timestamps aren't going to convince you of anything, so I'm just going to give up this discussion.--Jorm 23:29, 16 August 2007 (BST)

please just hear me out. i dont want to piss you off, but i really just dont understand. the report changing the dangerlevel was made by Grogh at 04:46, 16 August 2007, now the report saying the suburb was very dangerous was made by you at 18:40, 16 August 2007. or are you talking about the report you made at 03:13, 15 August 2007 because wasnt that reporting to change the subrub from moderate to dangerous?--'BP^Tmz 23:37, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Yes. What would be the point of my repeating myself AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN (like I'm doing now)? None. So I didn't update it. Can we please just drop this? We're in ur burb, eatin' ur d00dz. That's pretty much all there is to it.--Jorm 23:44, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Ok, i just wasnt sure. i thought that each time the dangerlevel was changed a new danger report had to be made. thank you for setting me stright,sorry for pissing you off and happy eating.--'BP^Tmz 23:49, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Sorry, I'm in a pretty lousy mood today. Don't think I'm pissed off - I'm not. And no, you do not have to make a report to change the danger level if it's obvious. Common sense over anything else.--Jorm 23:53, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Policy Discussion

For some reason you always come up with the worst interpretations of my arguments, but the Hitler comparation made even this an understatement, and so I wanted to explain myself. Now, why would I report it on A/VB? The only thing I wanted to do was having you reading my sincere explanation or giving you an opportunity of displaying your stubborness instead, on wich I succeeded. Feel free to delete this comment out of your talk page as well, so you can show wiki users how mature you're getting when facing opposition. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 06:43, 17 August 2007 (BST)

Listen, you're the one who compared the policy to a "corrupt government". You started the hostility there, not me, chief. So fuck off with your holier-than-thou crap. You're the worst sort of hypocrite I know and what's funny as shit is that you don't see it.

What happened to the Matthew Farenheit who claimed that all the mods were corrupt and the system was broken and took people to misconduct at the drop of the hat?

Oh! He put himself up for administrator, got in, sold out, and became part of the exact same problem that he claimed existed in the first place.

Hee-hee-hee, ho-ho-ho.

Lemme know if or when you grasp that.--Jorm 07:19, 17 August 2007 (BST)

Crit 12

Quick question about your "keep all" vote on the Crit 12 queue. Was that just for 8 groups in the large list or did that include Pennville Internal Communication Link and Pennville Freedom Movement ? I couldn't tell - Vantar 05:38, 26 August 2007 (BST)

Just the groups. Sorry.--Jorm 08:54, 26 August 2007 (BST)

A/VB

You're no longer an asshole Jorm, you're a Dickhole. I was fishing with my dad 160 Km out of your flattery's range, and didn't think that you guys were waiting for me to make the ruling: it's not that the other Sysops needed me to do so, but it's obviously a gesture of good faith among us. This is the internet, I'm not in front of the computer available to pick up your shit at every second, not wisthanding that I took less that 24 hs to do it, but you took barely some hours to complain. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 21:54, 29 August 2007 (BST)

Oh, I see. You had the time to complain and bitch about the ruling, but not enough to add the warning.

Hah-hah-ha, ho-ho-ho.

Sure feels awesome to get what you were giving out so freely, huh?--Jorm 22:00, 29 August 2007 (BST)

I'm sure Dickholeguy will be thrilled to learn that you're using him as an insult, Matt. --Cyberbob ^{DORIS CGR U!} 22:37, 29 August 2007 (BST)