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General Discussion

JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz

Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ ☉ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. --

14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Sister Mary

moved from main page

Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.

Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).

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Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)

Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)

Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.

Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. —Aich on— 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).

Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.---- ^{FoD PK Praise Rando!}06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User: Revenant

Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ †

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Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

User:The Goth Store Owner

*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --_K^CLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

So quiet

* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed ▋ 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. —Aich on— 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. -- Spiderzed ▋ 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Foiled again by the cabal. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --hagnat 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)

Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, like acne. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVO LUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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+===JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz===
+Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
+:We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
+::I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- [[file:SomethingSomething.gif|link=http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Jack's_Inflamed_Sense_Of_Rejection]] 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
+::JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
+:::Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
+:::Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
+===User:Sister Mary===
+<small>''moved from main page''</small>
-=Vandal Report Discussions=
+Blanked [[User talk:Sniper4625]] - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ [[User:Sniper4625|Sniper4625]] ([[User talk:Sniper4625|talk]]) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
+: I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. {{unsigned|Sister Mary|23:37 June 3 2018}}
+:: Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. {{unsigned|Sister Mary|23:38, 3 June 2018  (UTC)}}
+::[[File:Southpark tearlick.gif]]--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+::Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --[[User:Dragonshardz|Dragonshardz]] ([[User talk:Dragonshardz|talk]]) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
+:: Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. [[User:Sniper4625|Sniper4625]] ([[User talk:Sniper4625|talk]]) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
+:Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. [[User:Swissaboo|Swissaboo]] ([[User talk:Swissaboo|talk]]) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
+::Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. [[User:Sniper4625|Sniper4625]] ([[User talk:Sniper4625|talk]]) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
+::Adding onto this, in their [[UDWiki:Administration/Protections#User_talk:Sister_Mary|protection request]] they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. [[User:Swissaboo|Swissaboo]] ([[User talk:Swissaboo|talk]]) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+:::I'm sure you meant {{WIKILAW}} when you said RULES. --[[User:Dragonshardz|Dragonshardz]] ([[User talk:Dragonshardz|talk]]) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) [[User:Sister Mary|Sister Mary]] ([[User talk:Sister Mary|talk]]) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+:The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --[[User:Dragonshardz|Dragonshardz]] ([[User talk:Dragonshardz|talk]]) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+::You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. [[User:Sniper4625|Sniper4625]] ([[User talk:Sniper4625|talk]]) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+::: The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D [[User:Sister Mary|Sister Mary]] ([[User talk:Sister Mary|talk]]) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
+:::Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. [[User:Sniper4625|Sniper4625]] ([[User talk:Sniper4625|talk]]) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+:::: I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) [[User:Sister Mary|Sister Mary]] ([[User talk:Sister Mary|talk]]) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
+:::::Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. [[User:Sniper4625|Sniper4625]] ([[User talk:Sniper4625|talk]]) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+: AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D {{unsigned|Sister Mary|02:22, 4 June 2018}}
-''Old Content has been archived. See below.''
+'''Vandalism''' and a '''Warning'''. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+:So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --[[User:Dragonshardz|Dragonshardz]] ([[User talk:Dragonshardz|talk]]) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
+:: Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. {{unsigned|Sister Mary|03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC)}}
-==August 2008==
+Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.--{{User:RadicalWhig/sig}}06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
-===[[User:Vandal_Alt_DUH]]===
+"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
-Looks like he's just signed his own Perma, if indeed that is him.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 00:53, 12 August 2008 (BST)
-::even though it takes them about 2 mouse clicks to undo any changes you make?{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 01:03, 12 August 2008 (BST)
-===[[User:Zephyer]]===
+===User: Revenant===
-Looks like he's reverting Ioncannon's (unreported) Vandalism and fixing links...{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 00:41, 11 August 2008 (BST)
+Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
-:Ion said you're the biggest noob and dumbass on the wiki; this just confirmed his suspicions. It is NOT vandalism, as you are too stupid or nooby to look at rules that allow people to post whatever they want on their group pages even if it is derogatory, such as [[The Imperium Must Die]]. Dumb shit... [[User:TotalMacho|TotalMacho]] 04:50, 11 August 2008 (BST)
+:Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? <span style="border: 1px solid #D4AF37; background-color: #0047AB; <!-- Azure --> color: #D4AF37; <!-- Metallic Gold --> font: 12px 'lucida blackletter','lucida blacklet','lucida handwriting',cursive; text-align: justify;">[[User:Revenant{{Switch|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|case: User:Revenant=/Sig}}|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">ЯЭV&#8288;€&#8288;NΛИ</span>]][[User talk:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">†</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Example User]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">&#124;</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">&#124;</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">&#124;</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">&#124;</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">&#124;</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">&#124;</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">&#124;</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">&#124;</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">&#124;</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">&#124;</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">&#124;</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">&#124;</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Gardenator|<span style="color:#808000">&#124;</span>]][[User:ephphatha |<span style="color:#0000ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:SA|<span style="color:#0018ff">&#124;</span>]]</span> 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
-::Well according to the Sysops, I'm right, and I don't much appreciate your unwarranted hostility, not to mention the fact that judging by your contributions and own admissions you are obviously a puppet of some kind, be it meat or sock.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 05:33, 11 August 2008 (BST)
+::Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
-:::I wouldnt be surprised if it was ioncannon. pretty sure it's a sockpuppet. and it's complaining about reversing an edit made by ioncannon, maybe the sysops should run an IP check.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 06:18, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-::::I think they should, but it's just as likely he's a Meatpuppet.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 06:20, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-Ok... please clear this up for me... But aren't Ion and his puppet correct? They can call people whatever they want on their own group page... For example, The Butthole Surfers mock FARK repeatly on their page, I believe. And Zephyr may not like it, but I don't think there's anything he can do about it except be the bigger man and ignore it. And... reverting it [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=173%2Fblacklist&diff=1245304&oldid=1244856 again], is that not vandalism, i.e. ''editing the page of a group he is not a member of.'' --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 17:06, 11 August 2008 (BST)
+=== User:The Goth Store Owner ===
-:Or you could argue he's removing the contribution of a banned/persistant vandal, who's circumventing his ban. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:12, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-::TotalMacho has not been proven to be a sockpuppet account, has it? Until such time as the various editors have been demonstrated to be sockpuppets, then IMNSHO the edits should stand... And people who are NOT MEMBERS of the 173rd wankfest are not allowed to edit the page, and doing so is vandalism. Particularly when the edits are ''repeated''... as my link above shows they were. Demz teh roolz. Follow them. No special exceptions just because ioncannon is a wanking, trolling piece of shit... Nail him the old fashioned way, by the book, Danno... Or, take a stand that serial trolling = vandalism... But you can't have it both ways... 'Sides, this isn't serial trolling, anyway, not yet. The case is straighforward: ''the group can say whatever they like outside the NPOV blurb... And non-group members can't edit the pages.'' Now deal. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:58, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-:::Nicely done, the Hawaii 5-0 reference isnt really target, but i enjoyed it. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:04, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-::::It's called "poetic licence", Rocky.  --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 21:09, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-:::Well for all we know his edits could be in good faith, it looks like he was trying to fix the links after a known vandal changed words to their insulting counterparts. Maybe he didn't know Ioncannon was involved with the group?{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 21:03, 11 August 2008 (BST)(STOP FING EDIT CONFLICTING ME YAO!!!=P)
-::::You fucking noob, our groups ARE AT WAR!!! IONCANNON11 WAS BLACKLISTED BY THEM!!!!! [[User:TotalMacho|TotalMacho]] 21:19, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-:::::I don't care, nor do I feel like stooping to the level of explaining myself to a puppet. If you have a problem with me then I recommend you either discuss it with me in a civil manner or go talk to a therapist about it.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 21:23, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-::::::No one gives a fuck what lame-ass trenchcoater group is "at war" with whatever other lame-ass trenchcoater group. The bottom line is teh roolz. Which are VERY clear. Now suck it up, everyone, and ''deal''... like the semi-adults you should be pretending to be. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 21:33, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-::::::I take it back. Well, part of it... The Cult of the Fallen God are actually kind of amusing. Perhaps a bit of a "trenchcoater" death cult ;) but amusing nonetheless. Good RP, guys, keep it up! --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 21:56, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-I'm beginning to regret giving this guy the benefit of the doubt. And it's only been a couple of minutes. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:26, 11 August 2008 (BST)
-:Why? The cult has vandalized our cbox and pages. I'd like you to check up these ip's, well Ion does, because they were the ones vandalizing the cbox:
-.132.13.216
+<nowiki>*snif* *snif*</nowiki> I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
-.53.152.132
-.240.18.120
-.100.42.25
-If you could tell us who they were, it would be nice. The ISP's and/or proxies have already been contacted. [[User:TotalMacho|TotalMacho]] 01:13, 12 August 2008 (BST)
+The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
-::yeah, that wasn't the cult, one of those posts was me. Ioncannon was acting like an ass towards me and I thought it'd be funny.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 01:24, 12 August 2008 (BST)
-:::All four of them? K, I'm talkin to Ion on AIM; he says he'll tell the ISP's to ignore it. Unless you ''want'' a cease-and-desist letter. [[User:TotalMacho|TotalMacho]] 01:27, 12 August 2008 (BST)
-::::You can send me a cease and desist letter if it makes you feel better, I won't read it though. I messed with him once to get him back, it's not like I plan to constantly hound you guys for all eternity.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 01:31, 12 August 2008 (BST)
-===[[User:Fucgrim]]===
+Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page?  Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub><sup>[[CLZA|<span style="color: lightgrey">CLZA</span>]]</sup> 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
-Should Ioncannon get a further ban for sockpuppet ban evasion? --[[User:Bob_Fortune|Sir Bob Fortune]] <sup>[[Red Rum|RR]]</sup> 23:00, 7 August 2008 (BST)
+:A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
-:According to the [[UDWiki:Administration/Guidelines#Cycle_of_Warnings_and_Bannings|guidelines]], in conjunction with [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Reduce_Vandal_Escalations|additional policy]], if Fucgrim is proven to be Ioncannon11, then yes, he's due an additional 1-month ban on top of his current 1-month ban, plus he's open to a permaban vote, as detailed in the linked policy. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 23:58, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-::I think it's obvious. He pretty much admits it, referring to Ioncannon's actions as his own, creating the account immediately after his ban, and with a name that shows hostility to one who ruled on his case. I'm not sure it could be more obvious.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 00:04, 8 August 2008 (BST)
-:::It could just as easily be someone trying to make it look that way.  As I understand it, proof can only come from identical IP addresses for the two accounts, which can only be checked by sysops. From me, then, it's over and out. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 00:18, 8 August 2008 (BST)
-::::No, that's a good point. I didn't think about someone trying to frame him. Well Sysops? Are the IPs compatible?{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 00:43, 8 August 2008 (BST)
-:::::I have no idea, haven't checked. But Cheese probably did. I would probably say the month would do, if he doesn't make any more alts. Would probably only worsen the issue... think izumi. But meh, mudkip children are throwing stones at my house and they need a good beating. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:28, 8 August 2008 (BST)
-IP check comes back to an open proxy. It certainly does look like him though. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 10:39, 8 August 2008 (BST)
+=== So quiet ===
-:Yup. So what do you reckon? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:52, 8 August 2008 (BST)
+''<nowiki>* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *</nowiki>'' <br/>
-::Block the open proxy (can that be done?) but you can't really block him w/o IP proof. Anyway blocking him wouldn't do anything (apart from totally undermine A/VB and blocking etc) as he could continue to use proxies. He'll get bored soon enough...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:55, 8 August 2008 (BST)
+What happened to this place ? --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
-:::[http://i38.tinypic.com/v8if52.jpg Proof that he made another wiki account] [http://i37.tinypic.com/30usdp5.jpg Proof he zergs? (or is retarded) and proof that he likes it up the ass] {{User:Lemonhead7t7/Sig}} 01:10, 9 August 2008 (BST)
+:Thanks for reminding me to drop the [[:Template:DramaLevel|DramaLevel]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
-::::It at least looks like him, but does that constitute as proof? only the sysops can reveal the answer...{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 01:17, 9 August 2008 (BST)
+::Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
-:::::That's true, I could have fabricated the whole thing, but why would I do that! Just letting you all know it IS him. I can testify!{{User:Lemonhead7t7/Sig}} 01:28, 9 August 2008 (BST)
+:::I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
-::::::The wiki has a banned IP list, and as far as I know sysops put known proxies on it. In any event, even if the screenshots ARE real, which I am a bit skeptical of, they're not admissible evidence. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 01:42, 9 August 2008 (BST)
+::::The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
-:::::::Haha I understand, just letting people know it is, and to keep looking for the evidence. {{User:Lemonhead7t7/Sig}} 01:56, 9 August 2008 (BST)
+:::::DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
+::::::Foiled again by the cabal. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
+::I think you can update the [[:Template:DramaLevel|DramaLevel]] to the lesser level of drama. This place [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtMJSMkSEFg is so quiet]. --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
+:::Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
+:::: It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
-::::''Moved to talk from vote'' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 03:52, 10 August 2008 (BST)
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-:::::I'm in favor of the permaban, but just to let you know, those screenshots could easily be faked, so they probably can't be taken as evidence. --[[User:JaredV|Jared]]<sup>[[User_talk:JaredV|Talk]] [[Project Welcome|W!]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 02:19, 10 August 2008 (BST)
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-::::::Screenshots can be faked, true, but to do that would be very difficult, and i actually trust the source not to do something that stupid. Besides, i was already certain it was ioncannon. The new account appeared minutes after we blocked his main. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 03:52, 10 August 2008 (BST)
-:::::::Just a thought. Lemon doesn't exactly have the best relationship with Ion. Who's to say he didn't make the fake account to pin it on him? Just sayin'. Wouldn't using that as proof make a rather... bad precedent? --[[User:Kikashie|Kikashie]] <sup>[[Dulston Alliance/Newspaper|Read the Dispatch!]]</sup> 05:17, 10 August 2008 (BST)
-::::::::I honestly doubt that screenshot is the piece of evidence tipping the scales here, but I trust Lemon, enough to doubt he'd frame Ion. No, judging from the way he's been acting, anyone who wanted him out of the picture only had to wait around. Ion has a habit of digging his own grave, and I doubt someone as respectable as Lemonhead would stoop to the level of trickery, especially when it is so unnecessary. Regardless I agree, if it comes down to it then the screenshot should not be the deciding evidence. Let's set a honorable precedent with this trial.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 05:25, 10 August 2008 (BST)
-:::::::::Heh heh, I wouldn't really classify Lemon as "respectable" what with some reacent stuff that has come to light. But that's off topic. Regardless, if he made one, he only made one. You'd think there would have been others. --[[User:Kikashie|Kikashie]] <sup>[[Dulston Alliance/Newspaper|Read the Dispatch!]]</sup> 05:27, 10 August 2008 (BST)
-===[[User:Ioncannon11]]===
-I was actually avoiding taking this to VB because I wasn't sure if it was even vandalism. Guess I got schooled huh? =P Thanks for catching this Cheeseman!{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 21:01, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-===[[User:Ioncannon11]]===
-This is the kind of trolling crap that needs to be stopped. While technically not impersonation, the edit was clearly in bad faith, i.e. there was no intent to improve the wiki, in fact very clearly the opposite was the intent... If this were a first or second time offense, then I think a soft warning (i.e., smarten up) might be appropriate. However, ioncannon has a long and storied history of trolling, some of which has been deemed vandalism, some of which he has been able to get away with. Given this history, it's kind of obvious that his trolling was wilful and destructive and in bad faith.
-Consider this, as well... If "shitting up admin pages" -- even without inflammatory or derogatory content -- can be considered vandalism, then blatant trolling ought to be considered vandalism as well. How come the sysops get special protection from having to deal with B.S. on the pages they use, but the rest of the community doesn't? We don't get ANY protection from trolls, except... "Ignore them", or "Take it Arby"... Which system, as has been demonstrated time and time again, is quite broken. So what about us, the Joe Users, nuh? You have a chance here to set a precedent and declare blatant trolling = vandalism... in a similar vein as to how "shitting up the admin pages" works... Will you take this stand? --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 01:12, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:1. Where is the post on Ioncannon's talk page asking him about this edit?
-:2. That headline isn't something that Tech posted as part of his comment. It isn't impersonation.
-:''You have a chance here to set a precedent and declare blatant trolling = vandalism.'' And then make a back door civility policy enforcible? No thanks.  News Flash - Not everyone on the internet is going to be nice to everyone else. And hopefully you are choking on the irony of you posting and bitching about trolls.  You have a nice posting history on Talk:suggestions that would earn you a few days off from the wiki if we did punish trolls. You can't have it both ways.
-:Admin pages need special protection. Deal with it. You bitch about the system being broken yet you also bitch about the few parts that work. Maybe you do need some time off. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 02:49, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:Yeah, it's a double-edged sword. I'd like to remind you wiki users not involved in the case are '''not to post here.''' This is considered vandalism if you do it excessively, as you are know. [[User:Ioncannon11|Ioncannon11]] 03:07, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-::Blah blah...
-::# There is a difference between someone making rude comments in the context of criticising an idea etc., vs. someone who makes completely unconstructive edits which serve no purpose but to insult and to troll -- like ioncannon's in this case. If you can't see the difference, well... whatever...
-::# Yup, it's a "backdoor civility policy". However, it's one that fits the spirit of the "bad faith" policy. It deals with edits that have no redeeming value except to spam and to troll. It leaves intact otherwise rude comments that are made in the context of a discussion and/or criticism. If you can't see the difference, and how it'd apply, well, whatever...
-::# Yup, I'd abide by it, if it applied to me. But, my rude comments on communoity pages are always made in a context of a discussion/critique, and never just spammy trolling of headers etc. So it wouldn't apply to my "trolling", nor to most of yours or your SA buddies'. It would apply to crap like ioncannon's adit above. If you can't see the difference between these two types of cases, well, whatever...
-::# I'm not saying that Admin pages don't need special protection... What I am saying is that if it's good enough for the Admin pages, then a parallel procedure is good enough for the non-elite users who have to deal with the rest of the wiki. Again, if this point escape you, well, whatever...
-::Fact is that good users are leaving the wiki, or never joining in the first place, because of serial trolling. But good users don't actually leave the wiki because of some rude comments in Talk:Suggestions, case in point being the fact that some of the users who got flamed recently on Talk:Suggestions stood back from it all and realised where the people who were attacking were coming from, because for the most part there ''was'' a context for the flames... And now we're all a happy emo family working towards the same goals... ;) But if you can't see the difference between this kind trolling vs. making rude comments in the context of commentary... and if you think that over-the-top trolling behavior is a-okay... well... whatever...
-::So, sorry nubis, you're not quite there in getting it right. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:22, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:::No, he understands everything, you're the dumb fuck who can't seem to to realize this is allowed by the rules. You're not a sysop and you don't make these rules, so GTFO. This is not your a/vb case and, if you piss him off, nubis ''can'' take '''you''' up in vandalism for editing out of place on this page. You are one of the biggest trolls who, without any positive discussion or critical statements, proceed to run their mouths about anything and practically everything. [[User:Ioncannon11|Ioncannon11]] 03:27, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:::''You're an idiot. There was a suggestion a while back called "Pepper Spray" that did what you're talking about. Ergo: DUPE. Don't waste our time with something that is an obvious DUPE. Idiot. Why don't you just fuck off and quit pretending you know what you're talking about... You don't. On so many levels. You're an idiot. GTFO. --WanYao 13:30, 29 July 2008 (BST)''
-:::Please indicate which parts are "constructive". (And I can tell you that the "Pepper Spray" part without a link to support it isn't). Also, please remove the plank from your own eye or however that saying goes.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 03:33, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-::::Take the plank out of YOUR eye, as you put it, Nubis. Where is the context of that comment? Nowhere... Well, I'll provide the context: a bunch of people making atrocious suggestions, one after the other after the other... and then whining and troll-baiting(?) people when their suggestions were (rightly) torn apart. And, the possible existence of an individual or individuals actively trolling the suggestions with crap suggestions and Oprah-crying about being attacked for them... However, I've ALREADY SAID that I'd abide by any movement to deal with trolling as I defined it above. So... take your ad hominems and shove em, Nubis. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:38, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:::::And, ioncannon, if you were even half literate, you'd know that you that your statement that I am "one of the biggest trolls who, ''without any positive discussion or critical statements''" (emphasis added) is completely unfounded in anything approaching reality. Can I be an asshole? Fuck yeah... But, as I said, if you actually knew how to read and comprehend what you read, you'd see how absurd your statement is... For example, in the suggestions page, when people aren't being COMPLETE halfwits, my comments are most usually constructive and postive. As I said, context... it's everything... That little quote does, however, from everthing I have seen, seem to apply VERY well to you, ioncannon... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:47, 7 August 2008 (BST) Ok... why am I doing this?? Seeya, kids, have fun. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:56, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-::::::Shut up you nerd. With a name like wanyao, i bet you slurp up wonton soup and egg rolls all day and night. [[User:Ioncannon11|Ioncannon11]] 21:06, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-:::::::This case is closed, so shut up about it and go bitch about your NEXT vandalism case you Nerd hating anti-asian troll.{{User:Techercizer/Sig}} 21:13, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-"''Also, please remove the plank from your own eye or however that saying goes.--Nubis''
-:''Take the plank out of YOUR eye, as you put it, Nubis. --WanYao"''
-If one steps back a little and thinks of what the plank saying means, this is a pretty amusing dialogue.  --[[User:Toejam|Toejam]] 21:56, 7 August 2008 (BST)
-===[[User:Jackson|Jackson]]===
-Nyet. This should be moved to his subpage, and he should be told that posting pages like this on the wiki main is bad. I'd actually assume he didn't know that rule. --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 18:00, 4 August 2008 (BST)
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