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==Obtaining Historical Status==
=Obtaining Historical Status=
A [[UDWiki:Moderation/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.
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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
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#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)
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==Nominations for Historical Status==
=Nominations for Historical Status=
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page.  
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.


===[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Monroeville_Many|Monroeville Many]]===
=New Nominations=
''Place new nominations for voting here.''


*'''Voting Failed'''- 22 For : 15 Against. Not quite 2/3rds. Sorry. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 20:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
=Recent Nominations=


===[[Zom]]===
==[[Militant Order of Barhah]]==
The MOB defined [[Barhah#Controversy and Fundamentalis|Barhah Fundamentalism]] for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to [[River Tactics|fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind]]. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:
*Being [[Mayor]] of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
*Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
*Hosting [[Unofficial UD Forums#Barhah.com|barhah.com]], the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
*Making [[:Category:Related Games#Inspired by Urban Dead|Nexus War]], which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, [https://www.nexusclash.com/ Nexus Clash], is still entirely alive.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jorm Working for WikiMedia], where you may have seen him asking for donations.
The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Militant Order of Barhah vs Malton Mob|an arbitration case over the MOB redirect]]. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob":
Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."
Hagnat further noted:
They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.
I submit the MOB for your consideration. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


Pro-Survivor group [[Zom]] was started by no real leader, but by a board called /zom/ on a certain website.
=== Yes ===
Starting in late 2006, /zom/ has grown over the years and hit a peak of 160 active members, becoming part of the top 3 groups of Urban Dead.
# '''Yes''' - Author vote. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Looking at the /zom/ wiki, you can see that /zom/ has embarked on many endeavors to save Malton from the zombie rapscallions.
# '''Yes''' - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' Jorm Made me do it. [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take).  No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. [[User:Liche|Liche]] ([[User talk:Liche|talk]]) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''I guess so.''' ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''yes''' - i was told there would be chum. [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


Just a few of many things we are proud of being a part of is The Fight to Hold [[Ackland Mall]], reclaiming [[Southall Mansion]] and calling it our own, and entering the top 3 groups of UD with 160 active members.
=== No ===


I believe /zom/ deserves the historical status on the Urban Dead wiki because every one of the /zom/ members have fought a good fight, possibly changing Malton for the better, and it would be an honor if we got historical status for all our hard work over the years.
With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion|change historical voting policy]] (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


Please vote and tell us what you think. --{{User:Ryanon/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.


==== Yes (Zom) ====
=== Yes ===
#'''Yes''' One of the funnest groups I've ever had the pleasure of working together with, /zom/ knew how to survive with style --[[User:Steven Cooper|Steven Cooper]] 04:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes'''. /zom/ was a truly fun group to be with.--{{User:Ryanon/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - A very rare yes from me, not only was it big enough that it existing alone had an impact it's one of the few survivor groups I frequently ran into as a zombie. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' /zom/ has made a very large impact in Urban Dead and deserve to be historical. --[[User:Speels|Speels]] 22:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' As per Karek --[[User:Agent Sandman|Agent Sandman]] 22:42 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' Definite yes vote from me. Not only did /zom/ do a lot to aid the survivor cause, but they were a hell of a lot of fun. They're still on the stats page, but their core membership has died, and their IRC channel has died. They definitely deserve recognition. {{User:Hardcore Rockabilly/sig}} 22:46 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' ^ Pretty much that. ^ They did a lot for the game, the stats page is more or less irrelevant. If I switch my group tags to "The Caiger Resistance Front" does that mean they aren't historical anymore?--{{User:Labine50/sig}} 23:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Can't believe I'm voting yes... xD --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 23:30, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - What can I say?... They were fun even if I was not part of them.--{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 23:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Labine threatened to sap my sentry if I voted no.  Oh, and they were a fun group.  {{User:Risen Jihad/sig}} 00:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I knew the /zom/ board before I knew UD. {{User:Liberty/Sign}} 00:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Although not as active recently, there were several historic events. /zom/ helped to maintain Ackland for the more than week it was it was occupied. --[[User:S Buick|S Buick]] 00:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I agree with all the remarks and have decided for Yes :) --[[User:Humanstyle|humanstyle]] 00:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Hilarious group, deserve to be remembered --[[User:Urgggggggh|Urgggggggh]] 01:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I heard about /zom/ before te [[DEM]]. They had "XP orgies" and were very organized about organizing them, explaining what they were, and warned people that accidentally walked into them. I'm not sure if I would vote them as ''historical'' though; aren't they still active? [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 02:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I've heard of them, and spoken to some of them, and like what they've done.  Let's not let the records disappear. --[[User:Father Thompson|<span style="color: Black">FT</span>]] <sup>[[MCI|<span style="color: Black">MCI</span>]]</sup> 02:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Nigga please, if you didn't hear of /zom/ when we was rolling down our hood near our Ackland and all them busta-ass zeds come hating on us ballas then by jove good sir, it would seem that you have missed quite a spot of fun, we've had glorious adventures, training, members, tea, crumpets and style.  /zom/ maybe be dead, but we shall always keep our monocle polished. [[User:AnonBorgTech001|AnonBorgTech001]] 03:16, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' I renmember them from the early days... [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 04:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' Yes Much fun was had with them. I started UD because of them - Noahsan 22:53, 21 January 2009
#'''Yes''' - A name with impressive reputation - [[User:Stephen Krantz|Stephen Krantz]] 08:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - heard of them many times, seen them during my travels through Malton, and read their group's wiki.<br>
#They worked good, during historical battles too, their efforts met success and their labor deserves reward !<br>IMHO : lets make [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Zom zom] an historical group  !<br>Lets be grateful toward all those people who participated in Urban Dead community's fun !<br>--[[User:Lifecultist|Lifecultist]] 13:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#:<s>'''Yes''' - They have taken part in many battles against the zombie hoard -- John Rope</s><sub>''Timestampless vote struck {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)''</sub>
#'''Yes''' - Why not? They qualify, I believe, & they certainly had an effect on Malton, especially in the western regions. They were a big help in many sieges at Ackland Mall, and I liked the way they did things. They always seemed helpful and very practical, to me. --[[User:Jsrbrunty|Jsrbrunty]] 16:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - They had a marked effect on the security of the western suburbs, but more than that they proved that an organized group without a specific leader could flourish, something that I hadn't witnessed before. [[User:LK Oddjob|LK Oddjob]] 18:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I never knew them personally, but I have seen the fruits of their labor. They deserve recognition.--[[User:Claude Garrison|Claude Garrison]] 02:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - There were many sieges and operations and they were all fun. The fact that some had a big effect is even better. --[[User:Sods|Sods]] 20090123 21:55 EST
#:Question: Didn't there used to be criteria (changed the way the game was played, etc.) for making it into this category? I don't see it anymore. --[[User:Paddy Dignam|Paddy Dignam]] 04:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - From the start, /zom/ dove into Shearbank headfirst, unable to tell its ass from its head. Though its reputation and first impressions were shaky-the few willing to control the group struggled to keep its collective minds from running amok-they still gave their best effort into coexisting with their fellow survivors. There were many accusing fingers pointed toward their top hats. Conflict and suspicions had arisen by the dozen. However, the majority of the group always had good intentions in mind. After /zom/ finally gave up on living peacefully in Shearbank, they uprooted and made their way to Southall. When The Dead rose, they stood and fought against The Dead's many faces. Their history was littered with mall sieges and general pro-survival help efforts. They put efficiency first, and bragging second. As they had no idea who to boast about their efforts to, their roles in many of the sieges became almost invisible. Their members were faceless, and their numbers too many to count. They made their contributions, even if you didn't see them. They were a group that had fun whenever it had the chance, but it didn't fuck around when someone needed help.--[[User:Parkourartist|Parkourartist]] 05:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - They were cool. --[[User:Jasonjason|dgw]] 15:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Never saw them in action, but I've heard stories. By all accounts, truly an epic group. -- [[User:RogerCasey|RogerCasey]] 17:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Worthy of commemoration, saw several of their members help out in [[Yagoton]] (as well as murder people for no apparent reason). You will be sorely missed. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 18:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Wether you saw them in action or not, tophats blazing, they are truly a group worthy of historic status. --[[User:Kazaha|Kazaha]] 04:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Cool peoples. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Even if they originated from certain place, they still fought brve battles against The Dead [[User:Janjones|Janjones]] 14:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Great group that was full of extremely helpful people. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 02:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' – Epic hilarity. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - /zom/ was one of the most fun groups I've ever had the pleasure seeing in action. Their history is one littered with epic struggles and aid to the survivor cause. I will miss them very much. [[User:BurningBright23|BurningBright23]] 22:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - obvious yes is obvious. -- [[User:amagicalhobo|amagicalhobo]]
#'''Yes''' - /zom/ was such a classy group. We will miss them terribly.--[[User:Megameh|Megameh]] 20:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - I'd heard of them quite a many times. Yes vote has been voted. [[User:YoHoho|YoHoho]] 05:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


==== No (Zom) ====
# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


#'''NO''' No noticeable impact anywhere nor any major contributions to the game. There was nothing historical about this group. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Johnny Bass]] 21:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
=== No ===
#'''No''' --Never heard of them anywhere.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 22:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#'''No'''. - Edited vote: Not important or significant beyond being relatively big. I'm removing the part about their activity because apparently the wiki image change is enough to constitute their retirement, but they should really try adding some text to indicate that they actually are shutting down. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 23:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Moloch has it. While i did knew Zom/, i never heard about them doing anything ingame. Being a big group is not enough to warrant historical status. --<small>—The preceding [[Special:Listusers/sysop|signed]] comment was added by [[User:Hagnat|Hagnat]] ([[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hagnat|contribs]]) at</small> 23:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#'''No''' - they didnt impact me, so therefore, not historic--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 00:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#'''No''' - As far as I'm concerned that had /z/ero impact, /z/ero importance, /z/ero historicity. Unlike some, I almost never saw them, except a couple who'd mill around Southall Mansion. Meh. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Being big doesn't mean being automatically historical. ''I'' never saw them, except on the wiki and the stats page. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 01:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Never even heard of them. --[[User:Pyrranha|Pyrranha]] 02:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - As above. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 07:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Old and big does not equal historical. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 08:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''NO''' - as above, more so because Labine50 voted '''Yes'''----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 14:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' seems like I missed out on the fun as I had honestly never heard of them before!--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - I've seen them on the wiki and in-game, but I do not think that their contributions merit historical status. --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 02:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''FFFFFUUUUUU-''' - they came from 7chan... faggots--{{User:WOOT/sig}} 01:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Who? --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 21:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - Like that guy said, who? I sightly recognise the name, from somewher, but historical? No way.--{{User:Rachel_Akebre/signature}} 07:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
#'''No''' - A larger group shows up en masse and causes friction through misunderstanding with established groups and players?  Uh, PTT did that years before /zom/.  They basically gave the same experience point building drills most groups put their members through and called it an "xp orgy." The only thing surprising is they thought they were doing something original.  They had ambitious plans to make various "landmarks" their HQ and ultimately failed in short order ... also nothing new.  /Zom/ were funny, but they in no way matched the ULC.  They thought they were something, but so doesn't every group.  If someone can point to a specific event or, even better, tradition or tradition they're responsible for I'll change my vote, but everything here just reads like another outside game group showing up and being basically tourists for a summer.  Nice of them to stop by, but no need for a monument.  The group that came by a few months later and joined as a few thousand almost game breaking zombies, they were historic.--[[User:The Envoy|The Envoy]] 15:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


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Latest revision as of 17:58, 26 June 2024

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Place new nominations for voting here.

Recent Nominations

Militant Order of Barhah

The MOB defined Barhah Fundamentalism for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:

  • Being Mayor of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
  • Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
  • Hosting barhah.com, the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
  • Making Nexus War, which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, Nexus Clash, is still entirely alive.
  • Working for WikiMedia, where you may have seen him asking for donations.

The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in an arbitration case over the MOB redirect. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob": 

Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."

Hagnat further noted: 

They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.

I submit the MOB for your consideration. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Yes - Author vote. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. —Aichon— 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Yes - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. -- Spiderzed▋ 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Yes Jorm Made me do it. RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take). No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. Liche (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  6. I guess so. ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  7. Yes DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  8. yes - i was told there would be chum. hajen (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  9. Yes Clayton Carmine (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

No

With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can change historical voting policy (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

East Becktown Defenders

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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop us ☉ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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