Suggestion:20071220 A New Pistol Clip

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20071220 A new pistol clip

Suggestion type
improvement

Suggestion scope
The pistol clip

Suggestion description
Whenever you reload your pistol using a pistol clip, all exceeding bullets are lost. An example would be: you have a pistol(2 bullets remaining), you use a pistol clip (6 bullets) ---> the pistol is reloaded. It now has 6 shots, but the exceeding 2 bullets are lost. This is a pain, because most times you have a few shots left in your pistols, but you can't reload them cause you'll lose ammo.

This is bad, cause when you jump into a fight. Instead of having 4 fully loaded pistols, you have pistol (2), pistol (3), pistol (3), pistol (6). So you have to waste AP reloading more. That's why a new pistol clip would be a huge help, instead of losing the exceeding shots, they transfer back into the clip. An example of this would be: you have a pistol (2) and you use a pistol clip (6)-------> Now you have a fully loaded pistol(6) and a pistol clip(2), so you don't lose any shots and you have a fully reloaded pistol.

Voting Section

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Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped. # justification ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.

The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep - Sweetness --GunFox13 01:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Change Include a chance to find half used clips when searching. - Pardus 02:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Keep - Makes sense. --Pdeq^Talk* 02:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Keep - Assuming its not a dupe. --Heretic144 03:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Keep What an elegant solution. To counter Bob Aturd's point, if you don't want Clip(2) discarding is free. It would be nice to have an extra bullet in reserve. --Jon Pyre 04:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
6. Keep - Because no one tosses perfectly good bullets on the ground. --Blobdude^{Talk TM MC} 04:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
7. Keep - Good way to deal with the issue. --Pgunn 07:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
8. keep - I get the feeling some people are running kill bots on the wiki...--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 13:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
9. keep - And I want 7 bullet clips. UCFSD 14:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
10. Change - I like the idea, but I think NexusWar did it right when extra bullets stacked. When you had 6 spare bullets, it turned into a new clip. If you load a new clip in, and you get two spares, that would be awesome. --Vandurn 14:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
11. Keep - We need a problem like that fixed. Nice idea! --Waterspark2 05:22 P.M., 20 December 2007
12. Keep Do I seriously need to reiterate everything? ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||01:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
13. Keep/Change Maybe look at the pistol like an automatic instead of a revolver, so 2+6=8 rounds, nothing a .45 can't handle.--Shotstol 16:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Don't like it. Seems like it'd be a pain in the ass when I find myself with six or seven clips all with (2), etc. in them. And the system is really fine how it is. My pro-zombie human alts (a PK'er and a Death Cultist) deal with the problem you set out to solve all the time. Its barely ever a mild annoyance. There are certainly more important issues to be tackled. Bobs Aturd 03:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Kill - pistols are the most AP- and encumbrance-cost effective weapons in the game. this is a totally unnecessary "fix" for a non-problem... just use the bullets or replace the clip. period. --WanYao 07:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Kill - As WanYao and Karek. -- John Rubin^{T! ZG} 09:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Kill - as above. --Pavluk ^{A! E!} 12:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Kill - As above, so below. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 12:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
6. Kill - Too much benefit going to pistols. Where are the pro-zombie suggestions? ~Ariedartin • Talk • A KS J abt all 13:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
7. Kill Low shot clips would be essentially useless, and have high enough encumbrance (compared to a pistol) that I see no reason to bother with this. I'd just keep the pistol; even if its low on ammo, its at least ready to fire.  Swiers 23:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
8. Kill Unnecessary. - Grant 01:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
9. Kill What would that do to encumbrance? More to the point, do not buff guns please. Thank you. --TriPolarClicky! 02:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
10. Kill Marginal benefit is not worth the programming effort. Lrhyme 04:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - Because of how guns work Pistols are, easily, the most efficient weapons in the game. Do Not Buff Guns--Karek^maps?! 06:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Dupe/Spam - I know they're not identical, but the Peer Reviewed suggestion I've linked to provides a far better solution to the same problem. Instead of ending up with loads of bitty clips, as with this suggestion, the one I've linked to redistributes the ammo to maximise all clips. And, to whoever tallys the votes, if this doesn't get Duped, I'm using the same reasoning for a Spam vote instead. --Funt Solo ^QT 10:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Spam - As Karek --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 13:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Spam - Protip: don't reload until you are out of ammo. You are still spending an AP, whether it is before the fight, or during. As Karek and many others as well --Ryiis 14:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Spam - Guns are not the most efficient weapon in the game, but the management of your clip load status is what makes it a challenge -- boxy ^{talk • i} 15:01 20 December 2007 (BST)
6. Dupe - As Funt. Acoustic Pie 15:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
7. Dupe - As pie's 'as Funt'.Studoku 18:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
8. Dupe- As above. --Darth Lumis^{T! A! E! SR} 00:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
9. Canned Spam - As a survivor character, think this this would suck. You cant transfer bullets out of a clip, the whole thing just goes in. --Officer 123satsitx 01:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

   Why not? Remember Urban Dead's pistol clip isn't a normal clip. Its a quick reloader and it does allow you to remove rounds.--GunFox13 01:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

10. Dupe- As Funt, also there are plenty of other suggestions that you ripped this from. Can't seem to get the numbering right for some reason.... -- BKM 00:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
11. Dupe - Same idea. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:14, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
12. Dupe - As Studoku's "as Pie's "as Funt"". -- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
13. Dupe away! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 14:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
14. Spam - -- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
15. Spam/Dupe - Yadda Yadda--/~WOOT~\ 21:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
16. Spam - --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 14:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)