Talk:Malton/Archive

Do malls in the US have gun stores? That would kick ass.

Don't forget to sig/time-stamp your posts. Also from my experience they sometimes have sporting/camping stores with a very respectable firearm selection, including pistols as well as the standard rifle/shotgun selection. When hunting where there is danger of large predatory animals (bear, cougar, ect...) it is a good idea to have a side arm. Also you're a bit away from the hypothetical "protection" (read "investigation after the fact") of the police should you run afoul with unsavory people. (twang-of-banjo for emphasis) --Matthew-Stewart 17:39, 5 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Yeah, I've never really seen stores specifically for selling guns in malls, but larger malls will sometimes have outdoorsman-type stores with guns. --LouisB3 15:30, 21 Dec 2005 (GMT)

They may well do, but Malton is in the UK. --Daxx 15:41, 21 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Yes almost every store in the US sells guns. (Pawn Shop, Walmart, K-Mart, ect)--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 22:24, 18 August 2008 (BST)

This page had been unchanges for ages, so I added a few things to Malton's description for flavour, and would appreciate any feedback on it in here and on my talk page. -- Andrew McM 21:41, 8 Dec 2005 (GMT)

"Pre-otubreak organizations" is just advertising for those groups. It's a meaningless distinction for all practical purposes. --LouisB3 15:30, 21 Dec 2005 (GMT)

I thought it would be a good idea. I only added a link to NecroTech. Everyone else added a link to their group page just because they had the same name. I actually have no problem with it. It adds intrest to a long unused page -- Andrew McM 12:19, 22 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Errr... as the person who came up with the whole 'pre-outbreak organisations' idea, does the itarod belong in this category? -- Andrew McM 09:18, 9 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Malton Location Theories

• The Canadian town seems to fit it pretty well. They're part of the Commonwealth, which should cater for your English requirements and have a pretty U.S. culture as well.--Cap'n Silly ^T/W/P/C 01:49, 5 August 2007 (BST)

• As to the location of Malton, I believe I have figured it out: Malton is on a fictional and artificial square island south of England, which is privately owned by the NecroTech Corporation, and while technically a joint territory of the United States/United Kingdoms(for tax exemption purposes), it is run not unlike Raccoon City from Resident Evil (ie town run by evil corporation). It was created by the NecroTech Corporation so British people could experience shopping at malls with liquor and gun stores, while the corporation tested horrible things that caused the zombie plague. The reason the Pubs are very British is because most of the inhabitants are originally from England. --Contaminated 13:22, 23 Dec 2005 (GMT)

• I suspect that Malton is actually a (mostly) white township in South Africa. This explains the evidently loose government regulation over Necrotech's actions before the outbreak, it explains why there are gun stores in the malls, it explains the abnormally large number of museums that display African Art (of several varieties), it matches the GMT timezone closely, and it explains they the government's only course of action has been to wall up the city. --Seb_Wiers^ctdp_Imagine 21:39, 21 April 2007 (BST)

I highly doubt it's South Africa. I don't think the time zone has anything to do with it (it's just GMT, right?). Remember the British Empire was the world hyperpower for the 19th century and plundered much artwork and wares from the rest of the world, including its African colonies. Also, Kevan lives in England, so I automatically assume most references are English. Plus the clothes - as far as I know, England is one of the only English speaking countries that calls long pants trousers. Also the amount of warm clothing available and the many football (soccer for you Americans) stadiums that are present also indicate England. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 01:30, 23 July 2007 (BST)

US Military calls them trousers. And don't forget pubs. England uses pubs, not bars. And England has a law saying shotguns with 2 shells and under are legal. Anything above is illegal. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n} 01:41, 23 July 2007 (BST)

They're arms, btw and that is an old term for a pub. I think Kevan had a few 'international' naming uses because it would be most likely played by more Americans than British. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 03:14, 23 July 2007 (BST)

I know they're arms. I play the game. And I know that arms is an old word for pub. I was using a modern term since I live in modern times. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n} 17:19, 28 July 2007 (BST)

Why does no-one think it's the Canadian city, eh? --Cap'n Silly ^T/W/P/C 01:45, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Oh, they do..... they just don't live very long to make any noise. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 01:47, 5 August 2007 (BST)

lol, true.--Cap'n Silly ^T/W/P/C 01:50, 5 August 2007 (BST)

• Well, It couldn't possibly be in America because there's no Starbucks, or Walmarts. Then again, am I the only one who finds it odd that there isn't even one single gas station in malton? --Officer Dick Trickle 19:19, 1 June 2008 (BST)

Template

	Where is Malton?
	Labine50 thinks that Malton is is under the pacific ocean.

I made a template for those of you who are trying to figure out where Malton is. {{MaltonLocated|Name=who are you?|Place=Where is it?}} --Labine50 ^MHG 22:28, 8 June 2006 (BST)

Utilities

Just because they arn't active at the moment doesnt mean they don't need information for either in game or RP Purposes. I'll be restoring/adding content to the two following pages in my free time. Conndraka^{mod T W!} 14:12, 15 June 2006 (BST)

1. Malton Water and Sewer
2. Malton Power and Light

Bring the Border Back

Seriously, cramming it in on this page is a waste of time, it's a little more important than being a side piece on the city, Malton didn't Orginally have a border zone so it's not actually part of the city. --Rogue 21:26, 15 July 2006 (BST)

area's being retaken

it seems the human presence is gaining ground in the southwest, maybe we can get the survivors to turn the south into what the north is, so that we can have the north nad sout to areselfs. the fact is it seems most zeds are over in the east or wit big bash.

Flavor text problems

"The city had at one time a population of roughly 350,000 people, but after the outbreak the population has fallen to roughly 40,000."

"401,472 dead and rising."

My gawd, have people been going INTO this zombie infested hell-hole since the outbreak?--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 07:12, 6 October 2006 (BST)

Bit of a typo there, mate. The population (i.e. active characters) at the moment is actually 39,558. Or, if you round up to four decimal places, roughly 40,000. -- Andrew McM ^W! 11:17, 6 October 2006 (BST)

Well... Tourists maybe? Unlucky passer-throughs? Commuters? Do convicted criminals count? What about soldiers sent into the city? Crazies that want to come to Malton? --Secruss 19:01, 3 September 2007 (BST)

I figured it. It's the "Dead and rising" part. All those cemetaries. Malton's old dead have risen, up-ing the population. :) --Sabbit 23:10, 7 September 2007 (BST)

Streets and Misc Buildings

When you come across a block that says "X School" or "X General Hospital" It's probably safe to asume that the block contains that building, and that the is a street around it somewhere. Really, Maybe It's just because I'm a hay-seed from the Canadian Praries, But I've never heard of a school that takes up an entire city block! With blocks named "X Street", I can only assume that for some reason there is an entire City block comprised of nothing but pavement. Anybody have any theorys on that?--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 05:04, 22 October 2006 (BST)

My beleif has always been that the "Streets" are actually resedential neighborhoods with little or no salvageable materials in i.e. just short of a wasteland but not quite. In regards to teh Schools taking up a city block.. Here in Searcy Arkansas USA we have a total of seven schools (that arn't private) and each one takes up at least a block, and Searcy is a town of 27k people aproxamatly. The Three Private schools are slightly larger than those public schools. (Note this is in reference to primary and secondary schools). In General I take it to mean what ever building is listed it is the principal standing structure in/on that block. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 07:41, 22 October 2006 (BST)

I can believe the street thing, but I still can't imagine a school taking up 1 city block!--Labine50 ^MHG|^MEMS 22:06, 28 October 2006 (BST)

Border

Quarantine Zone, the border area that has surrounded the map of Malton since the outbreak. This desolate territory is utter suicide for either Survivor or Zombie that attempts to cross it. The Military stationed around Malton take special precautions that no one crosses this zone. These precautions include razorwire, land mines, and FAE bombs.

Anyone else think that if such a pandemic would arrive, the military would do MUCH BETTER than razorwires and land mines? I mean, it's the walking dead, neither pain nor death will stop them. As for bombs, anyone has an idea of what the cost would be to use that to quarantine a city! It's rediculous! The only logical soltuion is the cheap and easy one, a wall ;) -Certified=Insane^☭ 21:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

the Razor wire and landmines is for "unauthorized" survivors trying to make it out... and Napalm/Fuel bombs work nicly for perimeter control and are actually advised by USAMRID in the case of a level four pandemic. And High temp rounds only cost about 12k american each so it's actually cheaper to use the occasional bomb than to build a wall that may or may not stop a pathogen of unkown origin. ;) Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 22:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but in real life, dead people stay dead. In UD, dead people stand up with minor effort a few seconds to a few days after they have fallen. Even if their attempted progress would be slow because they'd die every meter, they'd make progress anyhow. And when ya need to use multiple bombs on the same targets 'cause they won't stop comming back, it'd end up costing a leg... ;) -Certified=Insane^☭ 21:23, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

But in UD, there isnt a game mechanic that reprecents you body being burned, literally, to a pile of ashes. -RevEngEspc

What do you get when you light a zed on fire? A flaming zed. Honestly, people; it takes far too long to destroy a body with fire to prevent a zed from causing more damage by igniting other materials while still mobile. Zombies don't feel pain, and as such, will not resign to rolling around on the ground in agony if lit on fire until the body is destroyed, and as such, I'm not buying the napalm trenches for a second. Perhaps in conjunction with land-mines and solid obstructions to bog the walking-dead down until thoroughly carbonized, but even that would be more effort than it's worth. A wall is plausible, but even that wouldn't stop a reanimated pigeon from fleeing Malton, unless there was high concentration of anti-aircraft units dedicated to wasting massive amounts of munitions to hit every bird going in and out of Malton. My suggestion? How about a blockade of MTHEL turrets constantly monitoring the quarantine zone? Rook 18:15, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Danger map legend

Shouldn't the danger map have a legend? I know that there's a legend in the suburb page, but without a legend the colors could be taken to mean anything. I'm putting one in. --Mortalsky 20:17, 22 July 2007 (BST)

No, it does not need a map nor a legend. This page is for the background story to the city of Malton. A 'suburb danger level map' is hardly applicable to this page. Suburbs is the proper place for it. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 01:25, 23 July 2007 (BST)

Where Malton Is

Please provide evidence to support the claim it is in England, it's not stated anywhere else that I've ever seen, at least no where that Kevan has said it. The fact that it is stated here in a manner that makes it seem pretty factual seems to be confusing people and making them think Kevan has said that Malton is in England. It's caused no end of greif on the suggestions and clothes suggestions areas.--Karek^maps?! 22:15, 4 August 2007 (BST)

* points to all of the naming uses that are overtly English like "trousers, coats, arms, old-style mansions", and the assumption that because Kevan lives in England, he would base it there. Also the fact that the Lexicon assumes Malton is English.* --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 01:40, 5 August 2007 (BST)

*points to all of the places England has been in the last 700 years.* Also I've yet to see any naming scheme for a building or place in game that I haven't seen in America or heard used in Australia. From what I've seen Kevan has always tried to make it purposely vague and obscure where Malton is. --Karek^maps?! 16:00, 5 August 2007 (BST)

I'll see your trousers, and raise you a firefighter (instead of "fireman") and a liquor store (instead of "off-license"). Also, since when is every British policeman trained to use and issued a firearm? Let's face it, for every distinctly English feature about Malton, there is an equal number that are decidedly non-English. Malton isn't anywhere in particular; it's an amalgam. --Hendrik Casimir 09:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I found this, on Google maps. Thoughts? Techercizer ^(Food) _(TSoE) 02:56, 24 August 2008 (BST)

*It makes sense that Malton could be in the Caribbean, given its use of both American and British English. It's snowed (very rarely) on several islands in the Caribbean in the past as well, so that fits. Plus the zombies may be Haitian in origin...Ramco 03:06, 18 September 2008 (BST)

Outside of Malton

Ever wonder what's going outside?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sabbit (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Nice. That's really cool.--Nallan (Talk) 07:34, 5 May 2008 (BST)

Latin motto

Is there an official source for the Latin motto? It's a horrible translation, so I'm going to correct it a little for now. If it's on display in-game as an official... I don't know, then be sure to revert it. lɐʇɹoW-t-script 20:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the whole Malton page is pretty much fan-made. The Latin motto made me laugh because it parodies other place mottos so well. Feel free to correct it.--Felix Weiss 13:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Border Defenses

Is it just me, or are the border defenses kinda unrealistic? As far as I know, there's no such thing as 'flame turrets' or 'napalm trenches.' All in favor of spiffing things up, and generally making them more believable? Private McKinley 04:57, 5 May 2008 (BST)
Note: I could swear I said this earlier, but I don't see it. Maybe it got deleted, but I kind of doubt it. On the offchance it did get deleted, just do it again and drop a note on my talk page explainging why.

Napalm Trenches and Flame Turrets are generally used in Sci-Fi and such, and are possible. Napalm Trenches are probably what you'd expect,trenchs filled with flaming napalm that is regularly filled with new supplies, and flame turrets could be bunkers with flamthrowers attacked. But yeah, those both would be costly and mostly worthless. I'd update it, but I'm not sure what to put instead.--Jallus 16:13, 15 June 2008 (BST)

The Border bit has been edited probably a dozen times. More detailed (and more realistic) perimeter measures have been listed in the past but such is the way of the wiki....Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 17:21, 15 June 2008 (BST)

The fist thing people in Malton trying to leave would run into is a big chainlink & razorwire fence or some such. That's just there to stop them from wandering into the minefield, but its easy for the people sitting in the gaurd towers (equipped with radios, loudspeakers, rifles, search lights, machine guns, and finally claymore triggers for close proximity defense) along the perimeter wall (past the minefield) to see through. Its an old system, and it works well.  Swiers 19:06, 15 June 2008 (BST)