UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration

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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.

Guidelines for Arbitration Requests

In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.

Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:

• The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
• The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
• Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.

Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.

After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.

Current Arbitrators

For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.

The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator (even if not listed below) and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}

Also note that not all listed Arbitrators are active on the Wiki.

edit Volunteer Arbitrators in Alphabetical Order
DanceDanceRevolution	Rosslessness

Arbitration Cases Currently Under Consideration

Administration Notice

Use this header to create new arbitration cases. Once all sides have chosen an arbiter, move the case to a sub-page of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration and update its status in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

Arbitration Cases in Progress

Active cases

Zombie Lord vs Lelouch

Clearly has no interest in editing my suggestions other than trolling them. I seek to have him banned from editing any of my suggestions in any way in the future. I will accept Boxy, Honestmistake, SA, Linkthewindow, The Rooster or AHLG as arbitrator.--

| T | BALLS! | 19:43 1 January 2010(UTC)

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Gaf, Lulz. Also Zombie Lord, why did you separate the cases again. Merge them with the 2 below, they are the same. You aren't going to get 3 separate cases, only more drama. If you continue to try to stir up a mess on purpose the only thing you'll get is a ban. --Thadeous Oakley 20:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Since you made edits after my post above, I assume you read it. Now I'm going to ask you one more time to merge the cases you made against Lelouch, Bobboberton and Verance to one case.--Thadeous Oakley 20:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord vs Bob Boberton

Clearly has no interest in editing my suggestions other than trolling them. I seek to have him banned from editing any of my suggestions in any way in the future. I will accept Boxy, Honestmistake, SA, Linkthewindow, The Rooster or AHLG as arbitrator.--

| T | BALLS! | 07:42 1 January 2010(UTC)

These cases should be merged (this one, and the one above it,) as they're quite similar. We've done it in the past. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Done--

| T | BALLS! | 08:21 1 January 2010(UTC)

Arbitration refused. If you want to place your ideas on Developing Suggestions and then arguably abuse the system by never taking them to voting, you've got no sympathy from me when you cry foul. Oh, and I'll pass on - in your words - "nerd court." --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 14:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

As Bob refuses to pick an Arbitrator, I will await any of my choices to pick this case up. We can then move forward with this case.--

| T | BALLS! | 19:44 1 January 2010(UTC)

No thanks. How about you just ask me nicely, say, on my talk page? Oh right, the thing. Anyway, your requested result is a bit absurd; you should limit it to DS. "banned from editing any of my suggestions in any way in the future" could also mean suggestions you put to a vote, however ... unlikely that is to happen. Also note you'll be hard-pressed to force this case through without my consent, as precedence shows. Also, your attitude of assuming bad faith and tritely summarizing any disagreement (including those made in your own condescending tone) as "trolling" doesn't help. I could say you're "trolling" me now with frivolous arbitration and vandal banning reports. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 21:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I will say that I will see this case and any others finished properly because I'm tired of you fuckers abusing A/A. He either drops the case himself or a representative will be picked for you if you don't want to have anything to do with it. It's high time people stopped this shit.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Or third option; see bottom of this header. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 22:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

This drama-fest is getting pretty large now. But yeah, these cases are completely worthless. You can't ban other people's opinion from Developing Suggestions just because you don't like them. --Thadeous Oakley 15:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Just because someone disagrees, doesn't mean they're wrong.-- Adward  19:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

He can get them banned if people be trollin' though. Which from what I do actually know they've been doing a bit of it.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Who are "they", and isn't this more of an edit-war than straight up trolling? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

You would be one of them, what with the consistent don't feed the trolls template you throw on his shit. Anyway, why the shit are these separate cases?-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Drama/attention/lulz/stubbornness? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Plus, DS is a free system, and he's never even nicely asked me to stop. It's not like I put that on all his ideas, just the ones I think are placed for the sole purpose of getting people to argue with him. You know: most of them. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I split the cases because Bob openly refused to pick an Arbitrator. That way we can move on this case as soon as an Arbitrator picks it up, and not wait on the LeDouche case due to his his foot-dragging.--

| T | BALLS! | 22:04 1 January 2010(UTC)

Drama-less option: Yeah, sure, I'll take your A/A spam as a request to stop. I'll stop commenting on any suggestions you submit to Developing Suggestions (including deletion warnings and cycling). I reserve the right to freely comment on suggestions you put to voting, and other people's suggestions on DS. Deal? hell all i'd be posting would be "this is a bad idea" anyway--Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 22:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord vs Verance

Clearly has no interest in editing my suggestions other than vandalizing them. I seek to have him banned from editing any of my suggestions in any way in the future. I will accept Boxy, Honestmistake, SA, Linkthewindow, The Rooster or AHLG as arbitrator.--

| T | BALLS! | 07:42 1 January 2010(UTC)

Please Don't feed the Troll!!!

It will only encourage it, and then you'll be sorry!

Just ignore them, and it. will go away. Eventually.

Anywho, as should be obvious to anyone, one of ZL's "suggestions" was put on line to be placed in the no-discussion bin, and he apparently deemed it necessary to copy it and place it back at the top, commonly known as "attention whoring". No arbitration needed, just don't feed the troll. That is all that needs to be said. Verance 14:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Merge with the one case above please as it basically resolves around the same.--Thadeous Oakley 15:23, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Lelouch vs Zombie Lord

I'm tired of him constantly deleting my templates, and I've warned him to stop. Call it editing another user's comments, call it harassment, call it whatever you want, but I'm tired of it and I'd like it to end. My endgame would be a ruling for him to stop deleting things I put up; if he really thinks it shouldn't be up there, he can('t?) talk to me about it in a civilized manner. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Give it more time, L. That suggestion was only a day old; no need for a removal notice that early. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 00:38, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

It had been up there for quite a while without a single comment. If he really wanted it to stay so bad, he could have just posted something in the discussion area and bumped it. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Shit, I don't have time to have a civilized conversation with you every time you do something retarded, LeDouche. It would be my whole fuckin LIFE.--

| T | BALLS! | 01:15 31 December 2009(UTC)

Yonnua volunteers to arbitrate.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 00:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Can't accept you Yon. I feel too much like you're an involved party. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:56, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I haven't commented on any of his involved suggestions, or on your templates. But if you deny me arbitration, then I recommend SA.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 00:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

You're kidding right? I might be a bit phobic about letting you in due to the whole involved party thing, but SA is a whole 'nother bandwagon. I trust him about as far as I can predict him: not at all. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I think he's saying it because I still haven't ever gotten a case to arbies. :( Anyway, fuck off with the damn templates you server eating faggot fuck. :'( (P.S. if y'all accept me I would take this seriously and make a decision actually based off the case and not the users)-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:19, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I can be entirely serious when I need to.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

It would appear that he's not going to pick anyone who is not entirely in his pocket.--

| T | BALLS! | 16:28 31 December 2009(UTC)

I volunteer to arbitrate this mess. I can't promise the end result won't be messy though. 00:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't like the sound of that messiness, but don't have any reason not to accept you as arbitrator, either. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

HAHAHA. No. Pick someone NOT from your biased Troll Gang.--

| T | BALLS! | 01:48 31 December 2009(UTC)

I resent the accusation that I'm organised enough to have a gang. 01:49, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, Disorganized Troll Mob.--

| T | BALLS! | 01:51 31 December 2009(UTC)

HAHAHA, nerd court is now in session. Get a fucking life, loser. Ok, I will accept SA.--

| T | BALLS! | 01:09 31 December 2009(UTC)

words that one user of udwiki should never say to another... xoxo 01:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Why not? Self deceptive motherfuckers. :) --

| T | BALLS! | 01:34 31 December 2009(UTC)

Just something about wasting away on the admin pages of a wiki for a zombie based MMORPG and telling someone else to get a life seems a bit...well, you know... xoxo 01:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. At least I'm self aware. But Jesus Christ, Nerd Court is taking to an EPIC level.--

| T | BALLS! | 01:37 31 December 2009(UTC)

Nerd court ftw. Also i'm barely active and have no idea what the hell this is about, so i might as well volunteer (spelling?) to arby this thang. xoxo 01:38, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

lawls hel the fuk no. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

sulk. xoxo 01:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

lol yeah dem fukken nerds amirite bro??? *gets drunk while online, skips class with friends to talk about the wiki* Cyberbob  Talk  02:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

yeah coz you totally didn't fail to understand what i said or anything. Keep trying though. xoxo 03:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

shit post Cyberbob  Talk  05:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

lol @ jed not doing half of those things --

 

 

 

 

04:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

doing even one of those things is bad enough hth Cyberbob  Talk  05:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Lets go fuckface. I will accept Boxy, Honestmistake, SA, or Linkthewindow. Pick one, you bitch.--

| T | BALLS! | 16:30 31 December 2009(UTC)

Here's a couple more, The Rooster or AHLG. A whole line of impartial users that are obviously not biased towards me. See how easy that is you gutless cunt? Oh yeah, you don't want an impartial user because your whole case is based on trying to get away with your pathetic trolling with your moronic template that you want to be allowed to slap up on the same day the suggestion is put up. It's pretty simple fuck-knuckles, learn the guidelines.--

| T | BALLS! | 16:47 31 December 2009(UTC)

Don't the guidelines also say one suggestion per user per day? I'm nearly certain I read that in there somewhere. 17:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

You can only put one up for voting per day.--

| T | BALLS! | 17:19 31 December 2009(UTC)

Ah, my mistake. 17:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll accept The Rooster, if he's game. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Since Rooster's not responding, I'm also fine with Boxy. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 09:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I also offer. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Why the hell not? I can't think right today. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Fine.--

| T | BALLS! | 19:48 1 January 2010(UTC)

Taco2 v. Iscariot

Excuse me, I'm new so I apologize if I did anything wrong. One of the administrators here (In the UK Rage) came into my talk page and started leaving me abusive and foul messages because I didn't do something on my page correctly. In addition to calling me all kinds of rude names, tHis person also made threats to "run me off the wiki." I would like to report this person's behavior because this is the kind of thing that makes people leave and no longer participate. YOu can read it on my talk page under "admin pages." I will refrain from responding to this person any longer. Thank you for treating my complaint seriously. Sincerely, --Taco2 19:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't start this case, so I really fucking suggest you remove my name from being first. Also, did you move this from misconduct and remove my comment for no reason? Because that is vandalism and could lead to you getting banned. Or did you start a brand new case and remove an in progress misconduct case? Because that's vandalism as well.

I'll deal with the rest of the amusement of this case when you've sorted all of that. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I imstructed him to remove the misconduct case of a non-sysop and bring it to the relevant page. A/M is not for disputes like this. 20:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

So it's a move and he removed my comment? Bob seems to think that's vandalism. Why is this still titled as if I started it? I consider that impersonation, which is another count of vandalism. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

FFS... "Did you just report yourself for misconduct? Do you remember what I said about reading the page before you posted? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)" - From previous mispost on A/M. 20:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, can we now deal with him changing the header? As he's changed it without note it makes my comment nonsensical and is therefore yet another count of impersonation. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

He did exactly what you asked him to do. Stop being a fucking pedant. By the way this comment and yours now count as notice that the header once read "Iscariot vs Taco2" and now is in reverse. 20:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Spot who's gotten snotty with power. I await him to progress with the case, as he can't even start a case in the correct manner I shall sit back and wait for the comedy to start. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Or, you know, who understands manners. Anyway, he's progressed. He asked for an apology and for you to let him be. If you don't want to give him either, start naming arbitrators. 20:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It appears I'm just an innocent bystander in this person's angry vengeful crusade against some people in charge here. I apologize for whatever page I may have inadvertantly messed up. It wasn't purposeful. But, whatever it is I did, I am quite sure that it can't be in any way as disruptive as letting this person go around and leave his foul and abusive grafitti on new user's talk pages. I have a child and we were having fun playing this, but I don't want her to read this kind of stuff, especially having someone call her mother a "cunt." Can it please be hidden in some way. Thank you.--Taco2 20:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It's perfectly acceptable for you, or any user, to remove comments on their own talk pages, as those are considered personal spaces for their owners. If you wish to censor or remove anything you don't wish on your talk page, you're perfectly within your bounds to do so. 20:47, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

If you want to take a screen capture of it as evidence, go ahead. My daughter isn't here today. I'll wait until you tell me to delete it. BTW, you are very professional and I appreciate your assistance. You restore my interest in continuing to participate with my UD Wiki activity. I hope I can do so without any further harassment from this individual. Happy Holidays again!--Taco2 20:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead and do it now. All pages have a history of logs, so we can access previous versions of a page should we need to. 20:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

What would you seek as the result of this arbitration? Mutual barring from each others' talk pages and from non-vital response to each others' comments elsewhere seems to me a good compromise. If both parties want to agree to this off the bat we can settle this, if not you'll both need to decide on an arbitrator to settle things in more detail. 20:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I don't know who this person is. I would like an apology (but I doubt I will get that). So, if there is a way to stop this person from harassing me any further, that would be acceptable to me. P.S. I never left any messages on this person's page. And it seems that they just revel in abusing new people and I'm just a new target. Seems to me the kind of person that likes to pull the legs off spiders. I'm a woman, by the way. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Peace on Earth and Goodwill toward men and women.--Taco2 20:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, happy new year and all that. If you wish to have him barred from your talk page, then this is the place to do so. I offer to arbitrate in this case.-- Adward  21:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to Arbitrate. personally, I'd recommend Mis, because he's been going along with this case, but he isn't on the list of arbies, so he may not want to. I also doubt Iscariot will let him.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I believe I'll take a page from MisterGame's play book and not accept Mis, Drawde or Yonnua as arbitrator. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 22:24, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great idea, works too, at least you eventually gave up out of an obvious disinterest. This case isn't necessary anyways, unless you somehow have the need to continue to contact her (don't). --Thadeous Oakley 22:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I hate everyone and would LOVE for a few people needing arbies to pick me, as no one ever does. PLEASE PICK ME GUYS I KNOW THE DAMN TALK PAGE RULES AND PRECEDENTS.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I reject you as arbitrator on grounds that you hate me. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I accept your rejection with a heavy heart and a sad soul.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 11:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I will also volunteer to arbitrate. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 06:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Me too, though I expect to witness the second coming of Christ, as an atheist, before Iscariot accepts me.--Thadeous Oakley 23:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have asked Taco2 about the continuation of this case. This to prevent this case to sit inactive for a month, as happened in the past. --Thadeous Oakley 23:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate. -- Cheese 23:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate as well. Also, I suggest that if both parties agree to arbitration but refuse to select an arbitrator in a timely manner, an arbitrator should be chosen by an uninvolved sysop from among the many users who have already volunteered. Arbitration shouldn't be circumvented by a staunch refusal by either party to select a willing and qualified candidate for arbitration.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 19:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

It's been done before, unfortunately, there's no policy against it. However, I think there may be precedent for a representative to be chosen for a party that is not cooperating, but I haven't found a case in particular that uses this measure. That said, the whole point of arbitration is for two upset parties to settle their differenes, not for punishments to be handed down. It's a mediation tribunal, not a courtroom. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Recently Concluded cases

Iscariot vs Thadeous Oakley

Involved Users	Iscariot vs. Thadeous Oakley
Arbitrator	N/A
Created	11:18, 18 October 2009 (BST) by Iscariot
Status	Abandoned
Summary	Iscariot was not satisfied by Thad's arbitration ruling at Cyberbob, Sexylegsread and DanceDanceRevolution vs 2 Cool and wished for a compromise.

AegisTyra vs Dhavid Grohl

Involved Users	AegisTyra vs. Dhavid Grohl
Arbitrator	Rosslessness
Created	11:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC) by Rosslessness
Status	Completed.
Summary	A dispute over a TZH subpage.

Cyberbob, Sexylegsread and DanceDanceRevolution vs 2 Cool

Involved Users	Cyberbob, Read and DDR vs. 2 Cool (J3D) and (Nick)
Arbitrator	Thadeous Oakley
Created	09:13, 3 September 2009 (BST) by Cyberbob
Status	Concluded
Summary	Cyberbob, Read and DDR want to be removed from J3D's and Nick's 2 Cool fanclub page

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