User talk:Cyberbob240

Main | Talk | Sandpit | Signature | Archive | Talk Archive | Classification List | Arbitration | DEM Roster User talk:Cyberbob The Drama Llama is Watching You The owner of this page reserves the right to delete trolling and drama at their discretion. Things Best Forgotten This talk page has an Archive, which is updated when this page gets too long. All talk from the previous time interval will be placed there. J3D & Read Don't post here. A guide to posting here - READ THIS Pretty simple really, just make a new subject (using the ===title=== format) at the bottom of the section it comes under. Then, type your comments in underneath. SIGN YOUR POSTS. If you don't know how to, simply type --~~~~ at the end of your post. Any posts without a signature WILL BE DELETED. Helps to keep things organised. Oh, one more thing. Could you please, for the love of God, put any new headings at the bottom of their section? Editing the Wiki If you have anything to discuss regarding the upkeep of the wiki, put it here. J3D's latest If J3D is going to be warned for impersonating a sysop, how long is the template going to stay on his page? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:23, 28 August 2009 (BST) That's a good point. Your reward shall be having the honour of being the one to remove it. (might be prudent to ask him to do so first before wading in) Cyberbob  Talk  08:32, 28 August 2009 (BST) Nice try, why should I be the one to do it? I don't have a problem with having him on there. As the voter of vandalism and the giver of the warning, perhaps it should be your reward. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:08, 28 August 2009 (BST) Fine, I'll do it - though you should be willing to uphold the decisions of the team even if you disagree with them. Cyberbob  Talk  09:17, 28 August 2009 (BST) As I would have if I hadn't been offended by your passing it onto me :'( --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:19, 28 August 2009 (BST) delicate like a flower Cyberbob  Talk  09:20, 28 August 2009 (BST) yet only you can break me <3 --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:25, 28 August 2009 (BST) Bob you gotta get rid of this header because it really really isn't my latest... xoxo 09:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC) Orphaned Recruitment pages I noticed that a lot of the orphaned pages are abandoned recruitment adverts. Now in fairness it doesn't look like they will be reused. What do you think? Put them up for deletions, move them into their groups namespace, or just leave a message on the groups talk page, with a link to the old recruitment add included? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:23, 21 September 2009 (BST) Hm, I think I remember taking a look at these myself and not being able to work up the effort to do anything about them at the time. Personally I would say have them deleted, but it's probably a better idea for them to be moved into subpages with maybe a short note left on the group's talk page alerting them to their ad's new location. If you set the request up on A/MR I'll be happy to do it. Cyberbob  Talk  13:35, 21 September 2009 (BST) Cool, Ill do some tonight. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:23, 21 September 2009 (BST) Ive created a complete list of all the orphans (Making them not orpahns, but anyway.) Do you think a template would be best, that way I can roll it out on all the talk pages? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:01, 21 September 2009 (BST) Feel free to take Necrotech_Assassins/Recruitment off the list now. It's mine, and I put it up for speedy.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:18, 21 September 2009 (BST) A template sounds like the easiest way to do it, yeah. Cyberbob  Talk  16:36, 21 September 2009 (BST) Hang on, it looks like they're all subpages already. No need for A/MR I guess; I'll give you a hand with the posting of the template. Cyberbob  Talk  16:40, 21 September 2009 (BST) Nubis did the latter (of ross' post) quite a bit, I think it's a pretty good way to go, at leased in terms of cleaning up orphaned pages. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 16:42, 21 September 2009 (BST) List of all orphaned recruitment pages --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:46, 21 September 2009 (BST) You don't intend on bringing this into the mainspace, yeah? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 17:58, 21 September 2009 (BST) Why would I? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:10, 21 September 2009 (BST) Orphaned Page The following page(s) were orphaned, meaning they weren't linked from any other page on UDWiki. For house-keeping's sake, we are adding the link onto the relevant talk page. If you don't want the pages anymore just post them on the Deletions Page. You aren't required to do anything, but we'd appreciate if it you kept the link on any one of your pages. Please note that the link provided below will not remove the page from Orphaned Pages, so you'll still need to manually make a link for us. Thank you. Hows that? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:43, 22 September 2009 (BST) Looking good! Cyberbob  Talk  15:50, 22 September 2009 (BST) Bob's amazing dissappearing comments Hmm, I was just looking at a/vb, and noticed some rather odd things. Firstly, there was your moving of Read's comment to the talk, which seemed to undo itself, then redo itself again. But you already seem to know about that, so that isn't the issue. i'm more concerned with the fact that you responded to Akule on the DCC case, and the response isn't appearing on the page. In fact, I came along and responded myself, because I saw no response. Odd. Any idea why?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:31, 25 September 2009 (BST) I have absolutely no idea. My best guess would be something to do with when I opened the tabs in which I made my edits. Cyberbob  Talk  22:34, 25 September 2009 (BST) Very odd indeed. If you want your comment in the conversation, then I moved his original message to the talk.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:38, 25 September 2009 (BST) Nah, yours covers the point just fine on its own. Cyberbob  Talk  23:07, 25 September 2009 (BST) What the fuck? You pressing protect by mistake now? Thats a pretty complex trick you did there. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:29, 13 October 2009 (BST) I think I was going for the watch button, but my brain...slowed...down. I had no idea I'd even done it until I went back to recentchanges after posting on the talk page. Cyberbob  Talk  21:36, 13 October 2009 (BST) Haha, I laughed when I saw it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:06, 14 October 2009 (BST) He's getting senile. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:08, 14 October 2009 (BST) Not completely woken up, actually. I think I was slipping in and out of sleep a bit at my desk. Cyberbob  Talk  03:33, 14 October 2009 (BST) A/VB templates Hey, A/VB#Archives. I'm not as familiar with A/VB archive templates. Which one should be gone here? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:03, 20 October 2009 (BST) I remember a thyme when you could think for yourself and didn't have tocome to bob for everything - oh wait, that time never existed! xoxo 10:05, 20 October 2009 (BST) I lold. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:08, 20 October 2009 (BST) New Scheduled Deletion Unless my clock's off, UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling#Unnecessary banned user pages should have finished voting and passed with 14 yeas to 2 nays. Would you mind taking it down and filing it in the appropriate place? I'm not too sure about where to put it.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 10:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC) Sure. Also: archive pages for admin pages are usually linked (if they don't have a template like A/VB or whatever) to at the end of their introductions. Cyberbob  Talk  11:00, 27 November 2009 (UTC) Criticism If you have any complaints about my conduct, place them here. Protections I know I've been away for a while, but editing a protected page is still misconduct? Right? :p -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:07, 15 September 2009 (BST) Oh, whoops - I didn't spot that you wanted feedback on the main page and I didn't spot that the talk page was protected. It's weird - normally there's a warning message that pops up when you go to edit a protected page but it didn't happen this time. I'll move the comment to the main page. Cyberbob  Talk  18:10, 15 September 2009 (BST) My wonderful unspoiled history, and you sullied it! My wonderful system for keeping the uninvited off the main page doesn't seem to be going well either :p I remember the fun of throwing out a thousand misconduct and A/VB cases, considering I could have two successful ones in as many minutes, you'd best be remembering that next time someone bad mouths me :p -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:15, 15 September 2009 (BST) If you want the history wiped just submit it for Speedy Deletion and recreate it. Nobody would be so dumb as to call you out on recreating a deleted page with this conversation on the record. Cyberbob  Talk  18:17, 15 September 2009 (BST) DID YOU JUST PUSH THE '+' BUTTON ON MY TALK PAGE????!!??!?!?! RWAAAAAARRRRR! Up the drama meter, miscondandalisibration all over the wiki for this! Oh, and I invite you to add any thoughts you have. ;) And you just edit conflicted me :p -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:22, 15 September 2009 (BST) im tirde Cyberbob  Talk  18:24, 15 September 2009 (BST) I'd dump you too Seriously, you suck, I can tell why she would have gone off and banged several other dudes--CyberRead240 14:56, 26 September 2009 (BST) I guess that's what you get when you meet a ho off WoW right?--CyberRead240 14:58, 26 September 2009 (BST) Sure get's personal in here...--Thadeous Oakley 15:31, 26 September 2009 (BST) Don't stop, I'm enjoying watching you grasp desperately for something you think might fit Cyberbob  Talk  15:37, 26 September 2009 (BST) Unfortunately for you, thats what she said. To 7 other guys.--CyberRead240 15:41, 26 September 2009 (BST) bottom of the barrel stuff right there Cyberbob  Talk  16:00, 26 September 2009 (BST) Praise If you wish to congratulate me or say thanks for anything I've done, please do so here. Good job Having different headers for praise and criticism and such is all nice and dandy, but when you got so much shit on your talk page things get cluttered real fast. Praise for finally archiving things. May I humbly suggest that you do that more often from now on? Also, I made a comment on your classification list. Also, first.--Thadeous Oakley 20:53, 26 August 2009 (BST) In other words, "first". --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:13, 27 August 2009 (BST) In other words, "second"--Thadeous Oakley 09:13, 27 August 2009 (BST) Don't get defensive on me, whiteboy. I couldn't care less about being on Bob's talk page. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 16:04, 27 August 2009 (BST) *word.xoxo 04:05, 27 August 2009 (BST) In other words, making sure your new siggy gets seen.--Thadeous Oakley 09:13, 27 August 2009 (BST) Nope. I use a templated sig so it's already on a wide array of pages, making new posts is entirely unnecessary. Good try though, you'll be a right cyberbob in no time at all.--xoxo 09:20, 27 August 2009 (BST) *~edgy as fuck~* Cyberbob  Talk  09:35, 27 August 2009 (BST) it's the substance abuse.xoxo 09:44, 27 August 2009 (BST) User talk:KevinRyman1 Haha. I'll admit, it made me laugh. Poor guy. Hahahaah. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:11, 17 October 2009 (BST) L2link.xoxo 09:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC) Other If you have a comment that doesn't fit into any of the above categories, put it here. Backstabbing I don't follow you. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:17, 29 August 2009 (BST) If you mean my view on the vote striking, I never said I thought what you did was right, hence why I tried to get you to distinguish between whether you thought it was MP or SP. We were both about to leave too, so we didn't have the time to argue over it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:27, 29 August 2009 (BST) old friend? A user on irc by the name of threepage would like you to know that he said hi and that he's back. From experience, you will probably find him on IRC at random times during the day if you're interested. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 17:43, 7 September 2009 (BST) kay. Cyberbob  Talk  22:58, 7 September 2009 (BST) Told ya Stupidity/weirdness/drama would get worse. I'm Nostradamus bitches.--SirArgo Talk 00:49, 11 September 2009 (BST) Oh cummon. That's just like saying "It's be a full moon within the month". --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:51, 11 September 2009 (BST) Damn, that's a good prediction. But yes, I think most saw something weird a-coming.--SirArgo Talk 00:54, 11 September 2009 (BST) Yes, weird is a good word for what is going on at the moment. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:57, 11 September 2009 (BST) I think Grim's coup will be forgotten once this ends (new template opportunity for me). Simply because we may be dealing with a complete breach and abuse of the sysop system. The Nubis vigilante actions that were always borderline misconduct in particular.--SirArgo Talk 01:00, 11 September 2009 (BST) I don't think so- Grim's Coup was iconic of himself as the ruler of the wiki, and he earned his powers before he stomped everyone with them. Whatever Nubis had done would have been by cheating the system. Vandar already had an infiltrated account as a sysop before anyway. In fact, methinks "Nubis" just got bored of never achieving crat (so he could actually do the next coup) an just gave up ;D --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:04, 11 September 2009 (BST) Hmm. Very true. I guess not knowing exactly what things were like before all of this, I really can't make a clear judgment. I'm just flabbergasted that the account control lasted this long.--SirArgo Talk 01:17, 11 September 2009 (BST) I hope that's just a really bad joke because Nubis was not after a coup. Cyberbob  Talk  01:52, 11 September 2009 (BST) It sounds more like Nubis was making a statement on the whole "Trusted User" discussion that Grim created, which was months before the coup. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:55, 11 September 2009 (BST) Nubis was tired of the petty wiki lawyers and the lack of common sense that runs things. Also, Bob, the "case" I was referring to wasn't actually made into a case (but I couldn't be arsed to edit my post), but it was one of those things that J3D bitched about and probably would have made a case about if the other things hadn't come up. I'm actually surprised that it wasn't one with the bitching that went on about it.-- #99 DCC 23:48, 12 October 2009 (BST) Well I pretty much knew about why Nubis left... but thanks for clarifying the other point. Cyberbob  Talk  02:29, 13 October 2009 (BST) Oh, Crat was never a serious consideration. Nubis would have promoted people like Wan and Iscariot just to see what would happen. And Nubis told both of them that he would do it, too. -- #99 DCC 23:50, 12 October 2009 (BST) That I did not know, but it does sound like something he would have done. Cyberbob  Talk  02:29, 13 October 2009 (BST) Lies. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:32, 13 October 2009 (BST) Arbitration Has started. Please proceed here --Thadeous Oakley 23:33, 11 September 2009 (BST) Thanks On the TMS warrants page,Thanks for moving it dude. ;D lol i appreciate it--Suff-TMS- <-- Killin' zombies! 04:09, 12 September 2009 (BST) Another quetion When it comes to requesting a page move,... how easy is it for moderators to do them in bulk? I have a quite a few pages that really need to be moved from one category, to another. At that, if theres a way for moderators to do so in bulk, I'd prefer it to be done that way, instead of one by one the way I could do it. How's that sort of thing work? -Poodle of doom 03:14, 28 September 2009 (BST) Moving pages "in bulk" is no different to deleting a whole bunch "in bulk" - you do have to do them one at a time. It's still far easier (and better - you keep the page histories) to move them with the sysop function than by copypasting them across though. Cyberbob  Talk  03:18, 28 September 2009 (BST) However, if Poodle means, as he's said, that he wants a page moved from one category to another, it's merely a matter of editing each page to omit one category to facilitate another. If this is the job at hand, I'd be happy to do all the moves for you, Poodle. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:20, 28 September 2009 (BST) It is as DDR understands it. At that, to clarify,.... You'd still have to go back and edit each page individually? If that's the case,... I'd be interested in just doing it myself. I couldn't justify pawning off my burden to someone else. -Poodle of doom 03:29, 28 September 2009 (BST) If you say so. It's not skin off my back though, so if you change your mind, feel free to contact me. And yes, the only way we can move pages to categories is to just edit each individual page, adding the new category and getting rid of the old. It's not so hard once you get used to it. Good luck. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:33, 28 September 2009 (BST) I've got a pretty effective system down... it's just that I was hoping there was an easier way. Thank you kindly. -Poodle of doom 14:06, 28 September 2009 (BST) New scheduled How much of a difference will this make, in terms of numbers? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:14, 1 October 2009 (BST) At the moment we keep hovering around 45-50 images, if it was reduced to a week right now we would have 7. Cyberbob  Talk  16:05, 1 October 2009 (BST) Arbitration An interim Ruling has been made.--Thadeous Oakley 10:58, 18 October 2009 (BST) My ruling is apparently being disputed here.--Thadeous Oakley 13:05, 18 October 2009 (BST) Yonnua Alright, I'm tired of people saying everything I do is for "cred". As demonstrated by when I was put up, I'd have had several more vouches if not for that Policy thing. In fact, I'd have had probably mostly vouches (from what was there). So, why on Earth would I be doing more stuff for "cred"? It's pretty blatant, therefore, that I was actually trying to be helpful. But then again, why should we try to resolve conflicts with other members of the community? We should just ostracise them instead! Seriously though, I'm not really getting pissed, although I sound it, I'm just tired of everyone claiming I only help them for Credit. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Perhaps the solution to your dilemma would be to dial down the loud involvement factor for a little while. Cyberbob  Talk  12:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Nothing sticking the head in the sand and doing a couple hundred of edits can't fix. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC) I'm just amazed that it took a lengthy personal engagement with Iscariot for Yonnua to see how much of a petulant child he is. Especially given Yonnua's attempts to pass himself off as a Wise Mediator; you'd think he would have some idea of the personalities he's dealing with. Is he stupid, or did he really truly believe that he could extract a moment of sanguinity from Iscariot? Cyberbob  Talk  12:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC) You can reason with anyone. For example, most of the time, you're an unreasonable stupid asshole, but sometimes you can actually get the job done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC) So you still think that Iscariot can possibly be reasoned with? I worry about you. Cyberbob  Talk  20:56, 29 October 2009 (UTC) You'll find your answer to that question on his talk page. Or, if you can't be bothered to go, no, I don't. I just felt like giving him a chance.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Look, I'll admit I agree. But at leased that way is the best way to learn the lesson. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Money, money, money.--Mr Krabs 21:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Oh, hey, I noticed on Conn's re-eval bid that you and nubile are the only goon sysops. Not true. I haven't been much of one in a long time, but I've always been a Something Awful user.-- SA 00:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC) oh? What board/s do/did you frequent? Cyberbob  Talk  00:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC) A/V, Firing Range, Hardware, I did a lot of posting in Goons with Spoons, occasionally games, then a lot of time spent in GBS, the music board and the Book Barn. For a long time ( I mean a LONG ass time) I couldn't remember my log in info (and I bought the account before I was 18 and had a bank account, so I used someone else's bank info so I didn't have any of the paperwork to get it back), but I got a new account a couple of weeks ago and I'm starting to get back into the awful forumz. I've only made like 4 posts since then though. I've been thinking of getting the archives upgrade to try and find some of the threads I liked a long time ago, not sure if I want to get plat again.-- SA 00:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC) GBS and TFR..... at least it's not ADTRW or E/N. Cyberbob  Talk  00:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC) Anime sucks when other people talk about it, and why would I make an entire thread based on my life? I could understand a relevant post when its, you know, relevant, but a thread? Or a sub-forum of it? blarg. TFR is mostly about the Airsoft aspect of it though. I like guns too, but very select few, and don't give a shit outside of them. :) -- SA 01:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC) Just read Swiers' demotion thing back in august, it was pc problems, but not exactly video card problems. I have an onboard that worked with Linux nice and fine, but my ATI card sucked balls with linux. The real problem was that my hardware made linux freak out with ANY distro, and it wouldn't work long enough for me to figure out the problem, nor could I run any diagnostics to figure it out at that point. My card works a hell of a lot better in 7 though! I do still need an upgrade sometime, as Shattered Horizion looks fun, and my X1650 PRO isn't holding on too well anymore.-- SA 03:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC) What the deuce Cyberbob  Talk  04:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC) I keep finding old shit that you people are wrong about. And I used this header last.-- SA 04:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC) I was just repeating what you told me in that email. So no u Cyberbob  Talk  04:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC) Email? The last time I sent you an email was before I spammed grim.-- SA 05:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC) A/D/A what the shit-- SA 20:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC) just a litel joke Cyberbob  Talk  23:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC) dun feed the trolls i thought it was your own piece of advice not to feed trolls like izzy, yet you gave him plenty of bait in SA misconduct case. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 17:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC) I was bored. *shrug* Cyberbob  Talk  01:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC) I think another bandetta is in order ;D I promise I'll help this time. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC) dawww, why you gotta change it? :( -- SA 15:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC) it's dumb. Cyberbob  Talk  15:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC) Well...Well...SO'S YOUR FACE!-- SA 15:24, 7 November 2009 (UTC) lol? Are you still around? Still playing? I started a PK'er group if so, if you want to join just click the contact link on this page and message me at the forums : 19th Kree Diplomatic Gestalt Am trying to find some more older players too so hopefully it'll be a decent laugh. - Xyu 15:21, 17 November 2009 (GMT) Back I hope so... --Technerd CFT U! 04:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Images I don't know what you're talkign about. The images I uploaded are being used on my clan wiki page. Thanks.--Taco2 13:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC) OOOh....well pardon me. I didn't know about that feature. I'm just learning. THere are probably 300 Wikis here that people don't even use anymore totalling far more images than that. I'll get right on deleting those images...ON THANKSGIVING DAY.--Taco2 14:05, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Those Images... ...are linked to at The Mester Arms. Not used as images on the page, but linked to... if that makes sense... x --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 14:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC) They need to be linked as actual wiki links for the software to recognise that they're being used. I'll fix them up for you. Cyberbob  Talk  14:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Thank you x --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 14:53, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Okay, that's what I thought the remedy would be. Is there no way of linking to image-only without the UD-Wiki page? --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 14:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC) As far as I'm aware, no. You only need one in-wiki link to keep an image off the Unused Images page, though - so you could maintain those links on one of your user pages or something and still keep the image-only links on that location page. Cyberbob  Talk  15:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Okay, that makes sense. Thank you Cyberbob240 xxx --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:07, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Next time I... What'd I do wrong? I'm trying to help D: --Haliman - Talk 05:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC) I was going to suggest that you warn someone in advance before submitting group pages to A/SD so we can get to them before Iscariot does. :P Cyberbob  Talk  05:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC) You mean the original authors? Or a sysop? The authors are (mostly) inactive.. --Haliman - Talk 05:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC) A sysop so the pages can get blammed before they get shunted to A/D. Blam blam! --Bob Boberton TF / DW 05:49, 28 November 2009 (BST) Alright, I've got a few more I was scared to post after izzy showed up (does he bite?). I'll post them on SD in a sec. --Haliman - Talk 05:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC) Done, and I'm gone for the night. /needs sleep. --Haliman - Talk 05:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC) We really need to embellish Crit 1 on A/D, and A/SD. If pages have one line of content, and have a whole wall of text on their talk page, ot should be kept; right? --Haliman - Talk 16:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC) wait So I've never met the real Nubis? Or the real DCC? Please explain it to me, cause I'm Italian and understand nothing but pizza. --Janus talk 23:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)