User talk:Cyberbob240/Archive7

Main | Talk | Sandpit | Signature | Archive | Talk Archive | Classification List | Arbitration | DEM Roster User talk:Cyberbob/Archive7 Archive Page This page is an archive page of User Talk:Cyberbob240. Please do not add comments to it. This is where my old discussions on my talk page come to die peacefully. No edits on this page other than by me will be tolerated. NOTE: This page will be updated whenever I feel like my talk page is growing too long. This is the first of my talk archives not defined by set timespans. Editing the Wiki "Bad Faith Vote?" If you believe that the vote was seriously in bad faith then take it to A/VB. If not then shut up. You are welcome to your vote and opinion on whether or not the policy should be implemented but don't try to scare people with baseless accusations.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC) A/VB I noticed again that you removed a sysops ruling. Could you please leave a note that said Op ruled one way or another? I thought I was seeing things when I suddenly noticed Hag's ruling disappeared. :/ --Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 16:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Bugger, didn't notice that in his comment. I'll just replace the whole convo - one comment + reply isn't enough to justify removing a ruling and leaving a note doesn't really go far enough IMO. --Cyberbob 17:12, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Okay, thanks.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 19:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Again, thanks for the move. I thought the ops only message was pretty big and bold as it was...--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:43, 6 July 2009 (BST) A/M It's hardly subtle Cyberbob, and I'm not afraid to say it. I also wanted to say good job on the A/VB cleanup, I am actually surprised and impressed with the current effects your cleanups had on the current system. I didn't think it would last but the cases are cleaner and spam on the article page is rarer now. Gj. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:13, 31 March 2009 (BST) I'm certain they knew it too. And I'll keep the J2D suggestion in mind. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:01, 31 March 2009 (BST) Image redirect as a sig I see it as a violation of the sig policy. I know it redirects to your user page, but unless there's a direct link to your user page, we can't guarantee that the redirect wont be changed or the image deleted anytime in the future -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:49 1 April 2009 (BST) I could have it protected; that would prevent the redirect from being changed. As for the other... that's incredibly unlikely as I would be keeping my sig in this form for a long time. --Cyberbob 13:03, 1 April 2009 (BST) It fails this policy for two reasons. The link provided in it does not link to your userpage, it links to another page and is then redirected to your userpage. It is also in breach of the height restriction. As your sig is not templated it will also make it impossible for a user unaware of this fiasco to know which user signed the edits that you do during this time. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:11, 1 April 2009 (BST) You assume a lot about the outcome of this scenario. I acknowledge that the image is too big and will fix that right away, but the policy says nothing whatosever about redirects. Nice try. --Cyberbob 13:14, 1 April 2009 (BST) No, it doesn't, but scheduled deletions has a lot to say about user redirects in the main space. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:17, 1 April 2009 (BST) o rirry? Where? --Cyberbob 13:19, 1 April 2009 (BST) Images arn't in the main namespace -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:18 1 April 2009 (BST) Why not just use coding like [[User:Cyberbob240|[[Image:Smug.gif]]]] or template it so it's obvious whose sig it is by the code on the page -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:18 1 April 2009 (BST) Tried the first of these in preview, didn't work (neither did the countless other combinations I tried). Templating it... nah. Don't worry about it, I'm good with things the way they are. Cyberbob 14:20, 1 April 2009 (BST) It's actually very easy. Unfortunately, like so many other things, it doesn't work on this wiki. This would be the code: <span class="plainlinks">[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Cyberbob240 http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/0/08/Smug.gif]</span> This part refuses to show up as an image, rather it just links: http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/0/08/Smug.gif The only other alternative will not work for signatures, because it requires it to be fixed somewhere on the page. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:50, 1 April 2009 (BST) Present. Enjoy. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:54, 16 April 2009 (BST) Nice find! But it doesn't seem to work with indents or comments: I am . Hello It's the position, a no go. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:09, 16 April 2009 (BST) Here's a version that works with indentation and stuff around it, but I can't get rid of the empty space after the image, and I don't think it'd work properly with non-rectangular images. Maybe someone else can finish the job. Here you can see it in action. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 19:21, 16 April 2009 (BST) wharrrgarbl     19:22, 16 April 2009 (BST) Could this possibly help you with the image sig thing? It looks like it'd achieve the desired affect, but I'm too lazy to try.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:39, 10 June 2009 (BST) I tried Thanks for adding a quote template. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:36, 6 April 2009 (BST) Sig Your sig seems to be breaking the Deletions page.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:15, 19 April 2009 (BST) Your sig Your sig is messing up the Deletions page. Please fix it before someone meaner comes along and sees it. =) -- Cheese 15:15, 19 April 2009 (BST) I already told him you dummy head. :P --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:17, 19 April 2009 (BST) We both submitted it at the same time. =p I must have been at most 10 seconds behind you. -- Cheese 15:24, 19 April 2009 (BST) Mine logged on the Recent Changes first though! :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:28, 19 April 2009 (BST) A/VB (2) Check out my reply to the Mister Game cases if you haven't already. It just makes his walls of text that much more pathetic.--– Nubis NWO 13:07, 25 June 2009 (BST) If you want precedents for most cases check the VB from the goon invasion. We had a little bit of everything going on then :D <3 goons!--– Nubis NWO 13:11, 25 June 2009 (BST) laff --Cyberbob 14:11, 25 June 2009 (BST) Arbies vandalism Don't want to get into an edit war so I will just ask you to put the note back for at least 24 hours. Your move was a sensible one but I think it is a question worthy of discussion and given the reason the case was found to be Vandalism it is certainly relevant to the sysop chat that followed it. --Honestmistake 14:06, 9 July 2009 (BST) I will put up a note of some description, yes. --Cyberbob 14:12, 9 July 2009 (BST) Hmm the world must be about to end... we managed that without insult or drama :) Thanks... --Honestmistake 14:42, 9 July 2009 (BST) Warning Could you do me a favour and move my A/VB warning to my user page. I want to keep it and can think of no one better to do the honours... think of it as a good will gesture :) --Honestmistake 17:11, 18 July 2009 (BST) There's no rule that says you can't do it - if you wanted to you could just outright delete it even - as the only purpose the thing posted on people's talk pages serves is to let them know about what's happened, but sure. --Cyberbob 17:13, 18 July 2009 (BST) Actually on second thoughts I think it would be best if I didn't. I'm trying to avoid doing anything that might be even vaguely controversial until I can get back some measure of goodwill from people. Sorry. --Cyberbob 17:17, 18 July 2009 (BST) Its hardly controversial if I ask you to do it now is it? I will even leave an edit there to make it clear that I asked you to do it. When I say call it a good will gesture I mean it. I will give you the benefit of the doubt over your motives and we can move on without ill will. Hell I will try to anyway ;) --Honestmistake 17:22, 18 July 2009 (BST) Alright, but I'll just copy DDR's post over. --Cyberbob 17:24, 18 July 2009 (BST) Fair enough. I will ask his permission to edit it later as I only really want the warning sticker.. --Honestmistake 17:25, 18 July 2009 (BST) Alrighty then. --Cyberbob 17:26, 18 July 2009 (BST) Actually I changed my mind... its good as is. Thanks.--Honestmistake 17:28, 18 July 2009 (BST) Fixing some weird formating Hey there, I'm asking you about this because you seem to have a lot of experience with A/VB and such (don't take that the wrong way) and I don't want to do something which could be interpreted as vandalism. The area in question is the suburb of Stanbury Village. Where some of the buildings link to a fucked up page which lists a bunch of buildings by category. For example, clicking on the_Sprackett_Building on the suburb map actually leads to a redirect which brings you to Stanbury_Village_Buildings#the_Sprackett_Building. I've seen this kind of formatting in other suburbs and it seems really annoying, since it essentially breaks the ability to treat the suburb map like a map and "walk around" the town by clicking on neighboring buildings as you go. So, my question - (long winded) do you think its okay for me to "fix" the formatting so that each building has it's own page with a mini map in the corner? Thanks.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 01:00, 19 August 2009 (BST) You're in absolutely no danger of being accused of vandalism over something like that. I do suspect that there is a reason many building entries are set up like that, however - you might want to ask someone with a little more experience in dealing with them about whether giving them all their own pages is a good idea. Boxy, maybe, or DDR? Cyberbob  Talk  02:00, 19 August 2009 (BST) Thanks for the good info CB. I've just received a message from ddR and it looks like I'm good to go. If there were ever any problems with it I suspect a new policy discussion could determine which format the majority of wiki users prefer. Laters.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 02:11, 19 August 2009 (BST) I'm 99% sure the policy was changed last year or maybe earlier so that every location should have its own page. I'd encourage you and anyone to help keep this in place by making the appropriate changes to links etc.--Nallan (Talk) 08:49, 19 August 2009 (BST) It was changed. All pages should have their own name page and coordinate page. That was one of the projects I was working on. (Unmerging locations) Most of them have their own pages which act as a redirect, but Stanbury was one of the places that doesn't. Thank you, Giles, for helping out. --– Nubis NWO 08:53, 19 August 2009 (BST) Yeh thanks for all the feedback. It's good to know that you guys care enough to pass along the relevant info on these kinds of things. I can see that the unmerging of Stanbury will take a while but I'm getting the hang of it now.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 09:30, 19 August 2009 (BST) Part of the problem we have on here is when a rule or guideline is changed it is sometimes hard to track down every place it is listed and update it. So you get conflicting sources of information. With a history wipe it makes it even worse. --– Nubis NWO 22:57, 22 August 2009 (BST) ghosts In relation to Special:Undelete/Image:39229141.jpg, what was it you tried to do? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:04, 20 August 2009 (BST) I was wanting to see whether deleting it again would work because I'd "deleted" one of the other ones and I was dumb and didn't read your page. Cyberbob  Talk  07:55, 20 August 2009 (BST) K. Just checking to see if I could re-upload them again. Thanks. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:38, 20 August 2009 (BST) While I'm here: a request. Do you remember a user who has been inactive for a while now, he used to have a signature that when viewed was a filled blue colour, but when the mouse ran over it, it revealed his name in text? Box couldn't help. I'm looking for that mouse-over code. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:53, 21 August 2009 (BST) Ohhhh I remember the mouseover thing but I don't have the faintest clue as to who it was. Sorry. Cyberbob  Talk  14:55, 21 August 2009 (BST) Yeha, it's funny, it's the only weakness of the mouse-over technique- no one will remember who you are. Bah. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:56, 21 August 2009 (BST) Hmm. Can't remember. Is it the guy who has all the mouse effects on his page? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:47, 21 August 2009 (BST) Don't know, I never actuall whent on his page, just marvelled at his signatures' mouse over effectd. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 15:53, 21 August 2009 (BST) Was it something like this? DDR you suck on MY BALLZ lololol! You'll notice in the code there that you just make the font color the same as the background.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 03:09, 22 August 2009 (BST) Lol no. It was a mouseover effect where the blue would disappear to reveal text behind it. All you did was make blue on blue. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:54, 22 August 2009 (BST) Kittens! --Bob Boberton TF / DW 05:06, 22 August 2009 (BST) Bob, you've just won my newest award. I don't know what it's called yet but I'll update you when I make it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:17, 22 August 2009 (BST) Oh yeh, that's an awesome sig! I actually remember seeing that somewhere. Darn, no prize for dumb old sednik with his lame ass blue on blue bag of tricks.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 07:30, 22 August 2009 (BST) You came to the call at leased, and I appreciate that. Perhaps you can win a minor prize ;) --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:52, 22 August 2009 (BST) Suggestion What's your take? There's an awful lot of random newbs posting on this? Do you think they're socks, or just a coincidence?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:34, 20 August 2009 (BST) Alright, now there's five of them. Can you do an IP check please?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:35, 20 August 2009 (BST) Seems like I was beaten to the punch... sorry about that, I was asleep. Cyberbob  Talk  01:37, 21 August 2009 (BST) Criticism Sticks and stones may break my bones... ...I forget the rest but basically you're an asshole :D --Nallan (Talk) 07:32, 5 August 2009 (BST) dont be a dick Cyberbob  Talk  07:34, 5 August 2009 (BST) But you love dick! Nah but seriously, you're lol.--Nallan (Talk) 07:36, 5 August 2009 (BST) Truth can hurt m'kay.--xoxo 06:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC) i think you missed the bit where i said no...--xoxo 06:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC) No, I didn't. --Cyberbob 07:12, 8 February 2009 (UTC) You are a very BAD Animal! Yes, one who deserves to be taken out back and unceremoniously shot in the skull. And here all of the Raiders have been thinking you died a brutal and violent death in the flames sweeping through Australia-land. Many a vicious rumor have been circulated (mostly by me) regarding your untimely demise, yet here you can be found, sunken to the depths of Wiki-lawyering while moronic sheep wander teh streets of Malton unchecked. Drop in on your ilk when you get a chance man. We kept your seat warm, with Johnny Rebs' blood ironically. -- Headless gunner W! 08:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC) Ops? Really? Fuck you. Unless you get it. Then I will take your trolling admin pages spot. I think it's time I came back and stuck my nose in places. -- #99 DCC 20:00, 7 June 2009 (BST) I've been wondering where you've been hiding for so long. --Cyberbob 20:04, 7 June 2009 (BST) I can't find anything good to troll. :( It is a sad day on the wiki for me. -- #99 DCC 22:32, 7 August 2009 (BST) "sirargo ur dumb" And you are a fag. Talk to you l8r.--SirArgo Talk 20:36, 25 June 2009 (BST) I WILL DO NO SUCH THING You were edit conflicting me too. Takes two to tango, bitch. --ϑϑℜ 08:13, 6 August 2009 (BST) How many times did you get conflicted? (If the answer is less than 3 don't bother) Cyberbob  Talk  09:47, 6 August 2009 (BST) Your fault for being slow. I am the lightning. --ϑϑℜ 10:46, 6 August 2009 (BST) How can you say its vandalism when i do it even though you did it for years? And don't try the 'i didn't know it was there' line on me. It's cute but i dont buy it.--xoxo 00:28, 12 August 2009 (BST) Praise Cyberbob240 True, everyone deserves a chance before being judged, I did enjoy the classification list you had... Thought I don't really know the people they were relating to, I enjoyed the website. Where did you find it? Liberty 12:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC) <3 U 2 Even while i call you a troll and ask your perma occasionally, you know that I <3 U, right ? :) --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 12:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Some Love For as much hell as you catch around here, I'd just like to let you know... I <3 You. In an entirely non-gay, interbutt-fellow-user kind of way. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 02:10, 20 May 2009 (BST) Just seems that no matter where I go on the admin pages, or even just digging through random talk, you seem to have developed a bad 'rap'. Never really understood why. *shrugs* -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 02:16, 20 May 2009 (BST) He dishes out the hell, then dishes it out more when they bite and retaliate. And successfully too. For that reason, I'm not sure Cyberbob actually needs this pity love... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:25, 20 May 2009 (BST) Everyone needs a little love sometimes. Even if it is just pity love. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 02:28, 20 May 2009 (BST) Bob doesn't need pity love in no way, shape or form. He knows what he's doing and knows this wiki so well that I'll trust most of his opinions. He also makes me laff.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 11:05, 20 May 2009 (BST) ditto. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:31, 21 May 2009 (BST) Oh god that was the best. My hat goes off to you again Bob.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:26, 5 June 2009 (BST) yay --Cyberbob 16:27, 5 June 2009 (BST) Thanks for moving that for me.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:58, 9 June 2009 (BST) meh, you killjoy --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] Congratulations I'll probably be seeing you in the secret conspiracy room from now on? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:33, 21 June 2009 (BST) You're not supposed to mention that! Linkthewindow  Talk  01:34, 21 June 2009 (BST) Wait, we have a sekret conspiracy room? What the hell? Nobody told me why?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:04, 21 June 2009 (BST) You would not believe how often conversations almost identical to this one come up when someone is promoted *killjoy* --Cyberbob 05:36, 21 June 2009 (BST) You oldschoolers never give us noobs a chance. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:35, 21 June 2009 (BST) Plenty of chances just no instructions on how how to follow up on them...anyway, congrats Bob. ;) I go away for two days and this happens. Holy fuck. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:40, 22 June 2009 (BST) Cleaning up after my dog Still getting used to wiki functionality, thanks for cleaning up my mistakenly created pages. --SamuRyjak 19:17, 24 June 2009 (BST) Ban Hammer You've dropped it 7 times (and counting!) in one night. Some would think... You're planning a massive coup :P. --Haliman - Talk 08:22, 5 July 2009 (BST) Since you were promoted... I feel you've been considerably better with the civility thing I raised a concern about at your bid. So yeah, if you ever get demoted and want promoting again, I'll probably be there to give you a vouch.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:48, 14 July 2009 (BST) THIS is the comment that I remove with disdain.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:58, 17 July 2009 (BST) I was a little confused. --Cyberbob 12:07, 17 July 2009 (BST) Allow me to say how proud I am of ye.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 08:08, 20 July 2009 (BST) carry on my wayward son/there'll be peace when you are done~~ --Cyberbob 08:11, 20 July 2009 (BST) Since you were promoted... Wiki crime is down!! The gangs no longer wander the street with impunity!! Women (if there were any) feel safe out after dark on the wiki. All thanks to you! Cyberbob and the "untouchables" - yes, your little gang of lepers that surround you. I have no fucking clue what I am on about either. Hi. -- #99 DCC 17:29, 12 August 2009 (BST) Hey Holy Hamsters! Is our Bob finally emerging from his troll-hole? Well okay, I can be the forgiving type here, so I'll stop pouring oil on that little fire between you and DDR. Will see how long this change of heart will last though.--Thadeous Oakley 16:06, 12 August 2009 (BST) GLORIOUS VICTORY TO CYBERBOB! --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:53, 17 August 2009 (BST) Other SA I am erotic exotic erratic? Care to describe your views as to that? Oh, and yes, when I first read that, I thought it said erotic. I know, I know, pathetic.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 21:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC) Ah, okay then. That settles that question. Now, ontot he question of you liking cock.... :) -- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 21:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC) forumwarz how nice of you to have a vandal report... it made my life a lot easier to find your user page in recent changes (not that i wouldnt find it otherwise, but it was so easy to click on the 4th link on recent changes). Anyway, Xoid introduced me forumwarz, and i found a certain cyberbbo there. Is that you ? Can i haz have u as fraind ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:08, 7 April 2009 (BST) I haven't played that for over a year. Cyberbob 23:20, 7 April 2009 (BST) You are right Is what I would be saying of you where. You are. Fun was drowned into drama the moment the big boys decided what I was doing to be a big issue that Cheese himself (we almost forget that it is his talk page) can't handle. --Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 14:48, 20 May 2009 (BST) Killing Autism Someone had to do it! =D Plus he was on 9HP, his profile website linked to a porn site, and his character description was creepy. --Fiffy 404 ♥ OBR ♥ RRF 05:59, 6 June 2009 (BST) Promotion Bid I now understand what you were saying, but I still feel it would've been nice to make the change like, a month before the bid, to give people a view of what it'd be like. I'm gonna go change my vote to abstain. If I see you run again in the future (Whether because you lose, or win and get demoted) then I'll be checking to see if this keeps in line before making my vote.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:30, 11 June 2009 (BST) I withdraw this comment WITH DISDAIN!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:51, 17 July 2009 (BST) Uh, OK. --Cyberbob 11:54, 17 July 2009 (BST) Oh shi-, this was the wrong comment.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:58, 17 July 2009 (BST) I assume you meant the one where you said you were happy with how I turned out? --Cyberbob 11:58, 17 July 2009 (BST) Sorry, I fixed it now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:59, 17 July 2009 (BST) fucking hell link and sa are so stupid. —The preceding butthurt comment was added by J3D (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. lmbo --Cyberbob 12:21, 21 June 2009 (BST) How do i alter my timestamp? would you believe that was actually an accident? didnt think so.xoxo 12:29, 21 June 2009 (BST) FUCK OFF RETARD! congrats man.. great to see you return to the sysops team. now go burn those motherfuckers!----Sexualharrison 12:44, 21 June 2009 (BST) no --Cyberbob 12:51, 21 June 2009 (BST) aww not even a little? i voted for you because i wanted snappy answers to stupid questions. boo hiss.----Sexualharrison 16:12, 22 June 2009 (BST) Sysop I may have voted against you but I did want to congratulate you on your promotion--C Whitty 12:00, 22 June 2009 (BST) Which is just another way of saying he wants...favors from you.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:57, 22 June 2009 (BST) I GUESS I'LL JUST HAVE TO GO ON ONE OF MY "RENOWNED" ANTI-NEWBIE FROTHING RAMPAGES THEN WON'T I --Cyberbob 13:58, 22 June 2009 (BST) I may have been involved in your demotion, but I did want to congratulate you on your promotion! I, for one, welcome our new insect overlord >:) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:53 22 June 2009 (BST) Everyone was a few years younger back then. I don't blame you for sympathising with the whiny baby crowd. --Cyberbob 15:27, 22 June 2009 (BST) ahhh i would have fitted in so well with that crowd, if only...--xoxo 16:13, 23 June 2009 (BST) you would have actually - they were big on bitterness --Cyberbob 16:18, 23 June 2009 (BST) Wiki Design Hello, I am very new to wiki, If you could shows me how to perfect the craft of making a stimulating visual to attract people to my group i would bow at your god like powers. however if you dont want to, or dont know how, can you point me in the right direction?--Bonghit420 13:41, 24 June 2009 (BST) Try User:DanceDanceRevolution. Although now that he's an op he might be less inclined to help noobs :P --xoxo 13:48, 24 June 2009 (BST) ya ok thank you, thank you o so much!--Bonghit420 13:55, 24 June 2009 (BST) Yawn this 'drama' is boring.--xoxo 14:01, 24 June 2009 (BST) If people weren't such petty cunts... but such a thing will never happen. --Cyberbob 14:02, 24 June 2009 (BST) Looks like things've cooled off for the moment anyway - all that remains now is for the other sysops to come in, rule Vandalism on my cases and Not Vandalism on Thadeous'. They're hopelessly predictable but I persist in the hope that one of these times they'll actually manage to make the objectively correct rulings. --Cyberbob 14:05, 24 June 2009 (BST) I don't think any will get v. maybe the one where he deleted the nooby comment...--xoxo 14:12, 24 June 2009 (BST) The one where he edited his comment is so black-and-white it's not even funny. The only possible reason (even including all the possible bullshit ones) that someone might find to rule that one not vandalism is because it was me that brought the case. Which is fucking dumb because cases should be ruled on their own merits. --Cyberbob 14:20, 24 June 2009 (BST) should.--xoxo 14:21, 24 June 2009 (BST) not that i need to tell you that.--xoxo 14:21, 24 June 2009 (BST) Yeah I know. What can I say? I'm naive like that. --Cyberbob 14:22, 24 June 2009 (BST) Fixing a protected article First of all, congratulations on your recent promotion. I wonder if you could use your newly acquired powers to fix a very poorly written article that regular users are unable to edit. Specifically, in UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration Guidelines, if you scroll to the bottom of the page you will find an Arbitration Issues and Censorship section. They abound with grammatical and spelling errors. I did a rewrite in in my sandbox. Can you do a copy paste job to fix the arbitration guideline? --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 21:18, 26 June 2009 (BST) Ah thank you. By A/PT i assume you mean UDWiki:Administration/Protections? I posted the info over there. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 05:44, 29 June 2009 (BST) REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anti-Bureaucracy This user hates bureaucracy and encourages wiki-revolution! DOWN WITH THE CRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Imthatguy 18:35, 3 July 2009 (BST) DO WANT --Skouth 18:38, 3 July 2009 (BST) Cool Story, Bro. --RahrahCome join the #party!22:54, 3 July 2009 (BST) AN UNBELIEVER IS IN ARE MIDST KILL THE HERETIC --Cyberbob 02:56, 4 July 2009 (BST) Wiki "Crusader" lols Apologies, I don't have teh magick IP glasses. Also, I'm waiting to fall asleep, with nothing else to do whoo wiki --Bob Boberton TF / DW 07:52, 5 July 2009 (BST) I know you don't have Check User; hence the comment about waiting a reasonable amount of time? --Cyberbob 07:54, 5 July 2009 (BST) I am, now. I'm thinking about drawing a pretty picture of you wielding teh banhammas against a horde of kawaii-bots or something in honor of your banhammeritude. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 07:58, 5 July 2009 (BST) Garr Knock it off Look dude, sorry I voted against your sysop bid. Now, the reason I did is because of just this kind of bullying/wiki lawyering. In this case I'm referring to the vote on my civility guide, and your ominous threat and action to strike votes for meatpuppetry. I would like to appeal to you to 1)knock it off and 2) define your criteria for meatpuppetry and why you think I'm engaging in that. I will admit to not being versed in the nuanced mazery (made that word up) of the wiki here but it seems meatpuppetry would be asking my dad to register here and support my opinions. I've not done anything of that sort nor acted in bad faith and I would like to suggest to you that you are being silly. Agree?--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 16:30, 7 July 2009 (BST) hahahahahahaha what a fuckup you seriously think this is about you voting against my bid? dude I didn't even know that until you just told me and I still couldn't care less. I'm doing this because going onto other sites and getting people to vote on something that likely wouldn't have otherwise is more or less purposely defeating the whole point of having the vote in the first place. If everyone went around doing it then the outcome of votes would become as explicitly about popularity as it is possible to be. I'm sorry that your guide might get knocked back because I'm not letting you subvert democracy (actually I'm not). --Cyberbob 16:40, 7 July 2009 (BST) Okay, then at least clearly define your criteria for meatpuppetry. If you're going to strike votes for doing "x" you should be willing to say what "x" is.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 16:46, 7 July 2009 (BST) "x" is voting on something due to being asked to/having your attention drawn to it on another site. I thought I already made that fairly clear? --Cyberbob 16:48, 7 July 2009 (BST) How can you prove it was on another site?--Thadeous Oakley 16:55, 7 July 2009 (BST) See DDR's talkpage. --Cyberbob 17:00, 7 July 2009 (BST) Okay, thank you for defining meatpuppetry. Now we're getting somewhere. I want you to understand that your definition does not match the prevailing use of the term "meat puppet". I will direct you to the pertinent wikipedia entry. And furthermore, there does not seem to be even a consensus among the sysops as to what constitutes meatpuppetry. However, clearly the spirit of the term "meat puppet" is getting a new member to join the wiki solely for the purpose of backing up a particular point. This is not the case with my fellow teammates. You don't appear to have any active characters and so you may not appreciate the relationship shared by normal wiki users who both play the game and contribute to the wiki. We normal users establish relationships in-game and on forums and add to the wiki as a result of game play. When the dead marched, Nuabreed of the SWA wrote his article on rat tactics in response. We learned of it through our forums and read it on the wiki. As a result of my forum knowledge I voted on his excellent article when it came up for review. The same process gave rise to civility. As the "good guys" CAPD refers to the civility guide, and we practice it with our interactions among other players, both PKer and zed. It's fine if the article gets shot down by people who hate the idea of civility or who find my writing to be "stupid dross", but understand that I feel positively about it and am acting reasonably to tell my group about an ongoing vote pertaining to an article that they probably also support. So I have nothing to hide on this matter. This follows the normal process by which many users move between the game, their forums, and the wiki. I'm not here to "subvert democracy", and the fact that you would claim to defend it is laughable when this wiki has no written code of laws and the votes of wiki users are ignored when "electing" their "leaders". As an example, take your recent successful promotion bid, with 20 against and 16 vouches. You are no paragon of democratic virtue and this is not some attempt on your part to defend the free people of wikidom. On the contrary you are acting like a petty bureaucrat, and it is precisely this kind of bullying and mine-field-laying that so many normal users feel frustrated by. Please abandon your antagonistic behavior and set a more positive example, regardless of how you feel about me or my article. In response, feel free to go ahead and dismiss me with your typical wit and vulgarity, however I want you to know that I've chosen my words carefully and I am not criticizing you out of spite or disrespect, but rather based on what I perceive to be a disturbing pattern of insincerity and abuse. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 00:23, 8 July 2009 (BST) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:34, 8 July 2009 (BST) I'm just going to chime in and say I voted no not because I "hate civility," but because your self-plugging should be unnecessary and because I don't think civility is required or should even be encouraged. Like civility? That's all well and good. I like civility. I don't like the idea that people have to be civil every minute of every day and that you should encourage people to be civil. Hell, you shouldn't even have to encourage people to be civil. A simple guide isn't going to change someone's view of it, only the how, if anything at all. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 00:29, 8 July 2009 (BST) I voted "Fuck No" because I don't feel like this guide should be placed in front of other guides, But in all honesty not everyone in UD will play this game with the best of their breath at the tip of their tounge, so other players will get what they serve. As for a a guide, I don't think you can make a %100 correct guide on how to be civil because even some of the suggestions you put on that page were, eh, not tastefull and could be taken in bad light. Heck not saying anything at all to certain zeds before killing them can make them mad, it makes me feel like im not even worth a "fuck you zombie" or "eat my cornhole zed", i mean i would love to at least see somthing there to brighten my day.--Bonghit420 00:41, 8 July 2009 (BST) Urgh. --Cyberbob 01:26, 8 July 2009 (BST) Classification List I find the list amusing. How did you come across that site? --RahrahCome join the #party!08:05, 16 July 2009 (BST) I honestly can't remember. --Cyberbob 08:07, 16 July 2009 (BST) Happy Belated Birthday I made you something for the occasion. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 11:40, 17 July 2009 (BST) I'd like to warn you that you may well be vandal banned for saying that.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:43, 17 July 2009 (BST) Why? --Cyberbob 11:44, 17 July 2009 (BST) Well, it's the kind of thing you'd probably be likely to do.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:46, 17 July 2009 (BST) *snark*--Thadeous Oakley 11:48, 17 July 2009 (BST) I only report vandalism, sorry. If I was really into "reporting" him somewhere it would be on Arbitration, which is hardly neccessary here. --Cyberbob 11:47, 17 July 2009 (BST) O Rly? This page says differently. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:49, 17 July 2009 (BST) Well, kind of. Lots of your cases have been heckled and/or thrown out at least.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:49, 17 July 2009 (BST) I would say that has more to do with the circumstances of how they were brought rather than the cases themselves. Even so, I bet I probably could change the rulings on at least some of those if I put enough time and energy (which I won't) into dredging up links and so forth. --Cyberbob 11:54, 17 July 2009 (BST) I can totally become an AWESOME and COOL guy if put enough time and energy in it (which I won't). Man, what an idiotic statement.--Thadeous Oakley 11:57, 17 July 2009 (BST) Awesome! I wish you the very best of luck in becoming an AWESOME and COOL guy! --Cyberbob 11:59, 17 July 2009 (BST) OH NOES, my sarcasm detector just exploded!--Thadeous Oakley 12:02, 17 July 2009 (BST) but i really do mean it.... (no seriously - you think I enjoy dealing with tools? hell no)--Cyberbob 12:04, 17 July 2009 (BST) That's what you get for buying a name-brand sarcasm detector.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:05, 17 July 2009 (BST) lol --Cyberbob 12:06, 17 July 2009 (BST) Becoming?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:01, 17 July 2009 (BST) Before you go any further you should know that I don't tolerate liars on my talk page. --Cyberbob 12:03, 17 July 2009 (BST) I am sorry Cyberbob.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:04, 17 July 2009 (BST) Silly sally, there's no need to apologise! --Cyberbob 12:05, 17 July 2009 (BST) It's not often that I create a custom image for someone. I have a history of poking fun at certain types of sysops. I would have uploaded the image and put it into a template proper, but the text is too small, and the image is huge. I felt imageshack was appropriate in this case. It should also be noted that I don't have a problem with Cyberbob himself, but rather his actions from time to time. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 12:07, 17 July 2009 (BST) Thanks! I'm glad to see you and your buddies all care so much that you're happy to put so much energy into wishing me a happy birthday! --Cyberbob 11:44, 17 July 2009 (BST) I only noticed it was your birthday when I was looking back at the history of the main page. I figured I'd find something to cobble together (unfortunately, I only have paint on this computer). I didn't even see what Anime or Sonny had even put up. I can only guess, due to the names, but it explained your gay porn comment on the deletions page. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 11:54, 17 July 2009 (BST) Hagnat linked to them offsite somewhere on A/M if you're really interested. --Cyberbob 11:55, 17 July 2009 (BST) I'm sure Anime will show me later today. Besides, I need to get ready for work. Anyway, happy birthday. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 12:07, 17 July 2009 (BST) Stop it you're embarrassing me... --Cyberbob 12:09, 17 July 2009 (BST) Avoiding scary people Ahhhh I see...so those people are generally "trolls" in a way, right? M'kay, I get it. So then I'm not doing anything wrong (I hope) when I'm writing articles and such? :P Chekken 18:30, 5 August 2009 (BST) Well not technically, but people find a heap of really small edits to the one page on recent changes a bit annoying. You can use the Preview button to see the effects of a change you've made without actually making "an edit". And yes, those guys are trolls. Cyberbob  Talk  18:35, 5 August 2009 (BST) Lol, how'd i know when i read this that i'd find my name on his talk page? I'm probably like telekinetic or some shiz.--xoxo 00:41, 6 August 2009 (BST) Bob you might want to head back over here, you accidentally let me and read both have the last word. Most unlike you! --xoxo 01:32, 8 August 2009 (BST) Oh, Bob I'm helping work the Fifth of November this year, we intend on spraying all of Ridleybank with that tag. I don't hold your actions against you, just bear in mind. You should collect all the facts before you jump on the vandalism train. I will have Mega log in and post something on the A/VB once he is online so he can inform you that he approved of me editing that in that manner. I also would recommend you not take everything Thadeous Oakley says to heart, hes been rather bitter since he got added to the zerg list at Resens. --    Timmah!     Talk   22:12, 7 August 2009 (BST) Porn Issues... Hey Bob, you know the porn issue you've been taking up with the community? Frankly, I find the Prosser Prosse page to be a lot more offensive than any of the stuff you put up.... which is why I'm bringing it to your attention. Don't we have a policy on neutrality here? -Poodle of doom 01:52, 10 August 2009 (BST) It doesn't seem that bad to me, but if you find it offensive there's nothing stopping you from putting it up for deletion. Cyberbob  Talk  03:10, 10 August 2009 (BST) Didn't say it was offensive to me neccessarily. It's just that I'd find it more offensive than some of the stuff. I like your suggetion though. -Poodle of doom 21:25, 10 August 2009 (BST) Got another one. I just put it up for deletion,.... because no one wants to see someone grabbing their Krotch. Image:Krotch.jpg -Poodle of doom 02:05, 11 August 2009 (BST) Rather important quetion,.... I was wondering if there is anyway to have my account deleted from the wiki, and all my contrabutions removed from it as well without having to speedy delete everything, wasting a whole bunch of time, and effort, both on my part,... and the wiki/moderators part? I'm not feeling so welcome on this community, and am currently thinking about leaving,... and with all my contrabutions. How's that sort of thing work? -Poodle of doom 05:02, 12 August 2009 (BST) Impossible. You can delete your user page and your talk, but we can't erase your contributions and we can't erase the account. If you ask me, you shouldn't worry about feeling unwelcome, I don't think it is the case and personally, I like having you around. If you feel things aren't working out you can just have a break, or leave, lots of users end up doing it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:08, 12 August 2009 (BST) I have another quetion then. This wiki is a cess pool compared to it's once glorious state. There's a whole lot of "F_ _ _ This!", "F_ _ _ _ That!", quite a few "Suck my D_ _ _!"'s floating around out there. Frankly. I don't mind a little bit of language here and there. In fact, I believe some of it can be useful (if used correctly). At that though.... I take a bit of an issue with it floating around so redily. I absolutly detest it being directed at anyone so negitivly, and actually being used as a dirogitory curse to someone. I must ask this,... what can be done to remedy this situation? I thought we used to have some sort of Neutrality clause for our posts, and wiki article? When did this decey? And can we come up with something like this again, to improve the state of our once humble wiki? -Poodle of doom 23:12, 12 August 2009 (BST) I find your spelling detestable. So sort it the fuck out. Also this wiki has always been drenched in swearing and abuse. It's called the internet.--xoxo 01:00, 13 August 2009 (BST) I couldn't tell you to whom I said this before,... but you really shouldn't mock a dyslexic on his spelling. It's kind of hard when everythings all jacked up asstard. -Poodle of doom 01:35, 13 August 2009 (BST) Well don't complain about other peoples language. I only have a problem about the way you write when you complain about the way i do.--xoxo 02:05, 13 August 2009 (BST) I really really doubt you'll be able to get any kind of civility policy passed, Poodle. If you want people to leave you alone your best bet is to take them to Arbitration. Cyberbob  Talk  02:56, 13 August 2009 (BST) Let me just say, I welcome you here poodle. For what it's worth. And I too am disturbed by the belligerent language people direct at each other. However it is worth noting that objections to vulgarity and attempts at censorship usually result in an adverse opposite reaction. For example, see J3D's immediate response to your complaint, and the people who vote to "keep" those images. Streisand effect anyone? Anyways, I would encourage you to stick to your principles and your guns and resist the urge to call someone an asstard (it weakens your argument). If you want to make a positive difference, you can do it by keeping a cool head and using your best reasoning to demonstrate the superiority of your positions. Best of luck.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 06:38, 13 August 2009 (BST) freinds 4evr id luv 2 b ur frend but i have a strict "no loozers" policy sry AnonSantlerville 12:09, 17 August 2009 (BST) DISK SPACE=CHEEP Change is BAD! Forcing personal responsibility and ORDER is the Devil! How dare you try to make sense and logic out of how things have always been done! Why do you hate FREEDOM? *grumble, grumble* Keep fighting the good fight. --– Nubis NWO 18:31, 20 August 2009 (BST) As long as I have...strength in my fingers? Cyberbob  Talk  18:32, 20 August 2009 (BST)