Talk:NecroWatch
Join NecroWatch... NOW!
Interested in becoming a full-time NecroTechnician? Of course you are! Who wouldn't want the fame and glory commonly associated with publically posting NecroNet scans, fame and glory lost on those survivors who scan and fail to report their scans. What's up with that? Just be sure to read the FAQ first so you know exactly what you're signing up for. Anywho, if you still want to join then just sign on the dotted line and provide the following information:
User Name - Who you are on the UD Wiki. Sure you could just sign your post and I would know, but this is more formal. What? I'm ALL about formality.
Profile(s) - Provide links to the characters you wish to dedicate to the job of providing NecroNet scans for NecroWatch. You are not limited to just one character, obviously, so long as your alts are not working together or within close proximity. But that just goes without saying.
Group Affiliation - Feel free to plug the group(s) associated with your character(s). I fully support shameless advertising.
Suburb(s) - List the suburbs you plan to cover. If your character(s) is mobile/nomadic then you can simply state "Malton". It's not necessary to report which characters will be reporting scans from which suburbs... after all it's healthy to be paranoid.
Please add your entry to the bottom of the signup list and that's it. Simple right? After that your name will be added to the Members List in the appropriate rank/alphabetical order and then you're official. Of course you don't need to become a NecroTechnician to report scans. In those instances please refer to the appropriate section (below) where you can post links to your NT scans.
User Name - A Helpful Little Gnome
Profile - Yabel
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Shuttlebank and surrounding area. Doesn't really matter though.
-- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Asoka Wu
Profile - Asoka Wu
Group Affiliation - NecroWatch.
Suburb(s) - Planning to visit every NecroTech facility in Malton.
--Asoka Wu 24:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
User Name - BlackReaper
Profile - BlackReaper
Group Affiliation - Detulux Inc, MEAR
Suburb(s) - Malton. Usually, the south.
--BlackReaper 22:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Blanemcc
Profile - Blanemcc
Group Affiliation - The Northern Regiment
Suburb(s) - Varying depending on the location of the regiment. Somewhere in the north of Malton.
--Blanemcc 22:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Duke Garland
Profile(s) - (no information)
Group Affiliation - LCD/Independent
Suburb(s) - center, east, south-east, possibly anywhere.
--~~~~ [talk] 20:03, 25 December 2007
User Name - Aphaythea
Profile(s) - Aphaythea
Group Affiliation - CCPD Family
Suburb(s) - South East Boundwood/Sheppard NT and North Yagoton/Style NT
--Aphaythea 05:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - cuio
Profile(s) - unmentholated, cuio
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Various, mostly around malls in the middle strip of Malton
--cuio (talk) (NW) 05:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Skritz
Profile - Nazdreg
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Any place I happen to be...
--User:Skritz
User Name - Tec7890
Profile(s) - Techhead7890
Group Affiliation - RCDC
Suburb(s) - Rhodenbank
--Tec7890 04:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Sexualharrison
Profle(s) - Sexualharrison asshole doctor
Group Affiliation(s) - המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים, QSG
Suburb(s) - Danger Close, all of Malton.
--Sexualharrison 12:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Lufio
Profile(s) - Lufio
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - Penny Heights and neighboring suburbs
--The Masked Lurker 05:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Anasazi
Profile(s) - Ghita
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - I wander around.
--Ghita 05:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - MiniGemmel
Profile - MiniGemmel
Group Affiliation - B-Town Boyz
Suburb(s) - Quarlesbank, Ketchelbank, Chancelwood.
--MiniGemmel*B-Town Boyz 20th January 2008
User Name - Rosslessness
Profile - Carlosinspace
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - All over Malton.
--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:59, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Keypunch
Profile - Keypunch
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - All over Malton.
--Keypunch 19:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - OverlordQ
Profile - ZS Revitech
Group Affiliation - Zombie Squad
Suburb(s) - Western Malton
--OverlordQ 00:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Sloping Flange
Profile - Bobby Brownbum
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Settled in and around Ridleybank
--Sloping Flange 10:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Adobewedge
Profile - Adobewedge
Group Affiliation - The Q Alliance
Suburb(s) - Essentially, Around the Tompson Mall.
--Adobewedge 03:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Commie Woman
Profile - Commie Woman
Group Affiliation - THEM
Suburb(s) - Chancelwood, specifically the Haslock Building.
--Commie Woman 16:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Another alias
Profile - Jarkendel
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - Brooke Hills, around Hellyer NT.
--Jarkendel 20:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - N00bert
Profile = N00bert
Group Affiliation - FOXHOUND
Suburb(s) - Dulston, Rhodenbank, Pescodside, Rolt Heights.
--N00bert 20:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - cannywizard
Profile = theshinysword
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Malton
-- Cannywizard 21:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Dehavilland
Profile - dehavilland
Group Affiliation - Reid Library
Suburb(s) - West Chudleyton
--Dehavilland 20:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
User Name - William Joel
Profile - [William Joel]
Group Affiliation - /zom/
Suburb - Primarily Shearbank
--William Joel 23:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Quincy Kildare
Profile - Quincy Kildare
Group Affiliation - The Opportunists
Suburb(s) - I don't know where I am half the time. I go to sleep somewhere,
then wake up in a totally different place with a buzzing in my ears, a couple
missing days, and blood and gray gooey stuff all over my clothes. What's that
about? Maybe it's something neurological - I should probably see a doctor. Oh,
that's right, I AM a doctor.
--Quincy Kildare 07:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Viktor Suvorov
Profile - Viktor Suvorov
Group Affiliation - 404: Barhah not found
Suburb - Varying, now Dulston
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10:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Atan Varno
Profile - Atan Varno, Gabriel Holding
Group Affiliation - Edmund General United, QSG
Suburb(s) - Grigg Heights/Owsleybank, Roftwood and surrounding areas.
--Atan Varno(Talk) of EDU 10:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - "Citizen VI"
Profile - Vigilis
Group Affiliation - Philosophe Knights
Suburb(s) - Malton.
--User:VI/signature 20:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Morgan Blair
Profile - Morgan Blair
Group Affiliation - M.E.R.C.Y.
Suburb(s) - The Four Corners region and surrounding area.
--Morgan Blair 01:22, 24 April 2008 (BST)
User Name - Tal'Rahsha
Profile - Tal'Rahsha
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Anywhere.
--Tal'RahSha 08:07 23 June 2008 UTC
User Name - Ivana Zarovan
Profile - Ivana Zarovan
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Ruddlebank and surrounding areas. May move.
--Ivana Zarovan 02:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Gorgon
Profile - Gorgon31
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Shore Hills and surrounding suburbs
--Gorgon 16:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Mortenmensch
Profile - Mortenmensch
Group Affiliation - The Burchell Arms Regulars
Suburb(s) Rolt Heights and Pescodside. Maintaining and scanning from Clewett NT in Pescodside.
--Mortenmensch 00:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
You had me at 'greetings, human.'
User Name - extropymine
Profile - Elizabeth Dement
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - The Four Corners, being in the Southwest section of the city at the meeting
of the Ruddlebank, Lockettside, Old Arkham, and Spicer Hills suburbs.
~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 17:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Hashk
Profile - Sophie Ames
Group Affiliation - DSS Red Zone Support
Suburb(s) - Malton, pretty much.
--Hashk 23:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - ChuckWade87
Profile - SPC MadDog
Group Affiliation - 6th LRRP
Suburb(s) - Shuttlebank,and the surrounding areas. Im going on a NT Safari.
--ChuckWade87 17:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm in it for the delicious cakes.
User Name - Met Fan
Profile - Met Fan
Group Affiliation - FOXHOUND
Suburb(s) - Northeast, from Santlerville to Dulston to Paynterton.
--Met Fan F 20:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - ZIPO
Profile - ZIPO3956 ZIPO396
Group Affiliation - DSS Red Zone Support
Suburb(s) - Malton
--ZIPO 00:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - BLusk
Profile - Sven Michaels
Group Affiliation - None at this time
Suburb(s) - Malton
--BLusk 19:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Alka Selzer
Profile - Alizia Backhouse Doctor Deuterium
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Malton
--Alka Selzer 07:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Douchette
Profile - Douchette, Vagabond Dilldo, Doctor Strap On, Friendly Bobby
Group Affiliation - Yellow Fever, MMS
Suburb(s) - West Grayside, Randallbank, Kinch Heights, Shackleville (not in order, I'm paranoid)
--Douchette 01:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - RedeyeSy
Profile - RedeyeSy
Group Affiliation - Murder_Death_Kill
Suburb(s) - Edgecombe.
ƦedeyeϧyϮ MDK | NW 12:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Jargon64
Profile - Jargon64
Group Affiliation - Deepstrike Tactical Unit
Suburb(s) - South Blythville for the time being.
--Jargon64 17:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Melancholy One
Profile - Melancholy One
Group Affiliation - The Pker Kers.
Suburb(s) - Dulston
----Melancholy One 01:06, 31 March 2009 (BST)
General Topics
Do you want to chat with the people running Project: NecroWatch? Looking for an outlet through which you can express random thoughts and ideas? Well then this is the place for you, unless of course your post is of a more technical nature, in which case check the next section. But if your comments are generic, then just post them here being sure to keep the newest posts at the top.
Venting for a Moment.
AAAAAAIGH I cannot believe how many people have NecroNet Access and yet no one updates anything on the Wiki. It's like, what? Do you buy it just to take scans for your own personal curiosity? Good grief! It's like... I dunno. It's like you see a traffic accident or something, and you see that half the people standing there with you are on their cell phones, and you say "are you guys calling the cops?" and they all say "no, just playin' Tetris." AAAAAAIGH. Okay, feeling better now. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Heh. Yeah. I know the feeling. That's why I started NecroWatch, with the hopes that I could provide some added value and excitement (interest?) to people who want to report scans, and just don't get any credit for their hard work. --Mobius 12:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's more an issue of ignorance than of willful inaction. We must always spread the word. I'm actually going to be giving a two part lecture series at the Malton College of Medicine in a few days about NecroTech science, and I'll be mentioning the NecroWatch in part two, so hopefully we'll see some increase in contributions. -- CITIZEN VI 04:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Do we have a Talk Archive?
We might consider archiving some of these older discussions, or even re-tooling things a little. If we move forward with the new "most crowded scan" ribbon, maybe that deserves its' own sub-page? Just thinking out loud, really. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Scan to be Reset
Notice: Unless anyone has any objection, in a few days time I'm going to reset to blank all scans that are older than six months, to better demonstrate which facilities are in bad need of maintenance.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I encourage all NW operatives to, when taking a scan from a NT building, mention the NW to the occupants of the building and recommend that they join our effort.
That is all.
VI 02:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that, since data that old would serve little purpose. Make sure to use the settings and not the template defaults (i.e. change PNG extension to GIF, don't just blank it out) as it's more user-friendly that way. Also we should remove the last user's signature and replace it with something like, "No recent scan reported". No need to date it. And I think it's a great idea to talk-up NecroWatch while in NT buildings. I used to post a news item for the suburb where new scans were reported by members. While advertising is generally forbidden in suburb news, I would start it with "NecroWatch reported from the <blank> Building with a scan that showed there were <blank> zombies at <blank>...", and so on. That way it's relevant information, but at the same time players who read suburb news would spot this and might become interested. --Mobius 13:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- The settings? You mean like what I've done here?
(78,42)
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NecroTechnician: No recent scan reported.
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- Yes, that's how it should be done. By settings I was referring to the template variables and the fact that if you delete them then it uses the default value (i.e. GIF for "FileExtension"), but it's better to just update the value. --Mobius 17:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yep. Reset. It's about time A.L.I.C.E. had another error, perhaps a different cake even. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- First perhaps Carlos should report 46 more scans, say from NTs in northeast Malton? Then you could get that Eastern Recon Master ribbon he's so close to securing. After Alice has handed out some cake to you we could work on creating a second trophy... better cake and whatnot. ;) --Mobius 22:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yep. Reset. It's about time A.L.I.C.E. had another error, perhaps a different cake even. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that's how it should be done. By settings I was referring to the template variables and the fact that if you delete them then it uses the default value (i.e. GIF for "FileExtension"), but it's better to just update the value. --Mobius 17:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Be advised: The reset is underway. --VI 15:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- It is completed. VI 16:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, the horror! I mean "static"! I think we need to bring NecroWatch back to the public's attention and help restore as many of these missing scans as possible. --Mobius 16:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Poor Morgan Blair had massive amounts of scans just within the cutoff. I've been advertising the program in every NT I visit. VI 17:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, the horror! I mean "static"! I think we need to bring NecroWatch back to the public's attention and help restore as many of these missing scans as possible. --Mobius 16:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- It is completed. VI 16:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Total Scans
Does this number include scans of buildings previously scanned? I can see how this would be pointless with regard to cake, but since the goal of this organization is to maintain scan maps I can also see how it could also be used simply as a representation of a particular member's usefulness to the organization, and to Malton's survivors. VI 18:55, 22 September 2008 (BST)
- Your total scans could include repeat scans from the same NT facility for the very reason you pointed out. It's not like anyone would be considered as "cheating" if they reported from the same NT multiple times, say one scan per hour. That's actually helpful in its own way, especially if there is a serious zombie threat to the suburb where hour-to-hour reports can really be useful to survivors watching out for zombie sieges (not so much so for quiet suburbs, but who am I to judge?). Feel free to rack-up an insane scan total as in the end your work is to everyone's benefit. Well, maybe not so big a benefit to zombies. NecroWatch is all about doing something helpful, getting some acclaim for it, and having a bit of fun while doing it. --Mobius 13:24, 23 September 2008 (BST)
Do you guys protect NTs or just check them?
if u guys protect i was wondering if you would want a little help protecting them i am shade0095252 in game and i am leader of the new(and small sadly) group the shades of malton we would be willing to help if ypu do though we only have 4 active members for now we have a wiki here if you would like to check that out i hope to hear from you guys soon thanks for your time. --Shade0095252 00:19, 15 August 2008 (BST)
- This use to be dedicated to just showing the scans from NT buildings, I don't think the founders do it anymore though.--N00bert foxhound 03:52, 15 August 2008 (BST)
- I dropped by to run a gauntlet of answers before I run off again. The answer to this question, along with a few others I'll provide today, are meant to provide solid answers to anyone who happens to come along with a similar question at some point. In short, no, NecroWatch does not protect NT buildings, of course individual members may choose to do so at their own discretion. NecroWatch is not a group, and as such, no one tells anyone what they should or shouldn't do. Rather, NecroWatch exists as a repository where players can report scans from their characters, which in turn help paint a better picture of zombie activity across Malton. --Mobius 13:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
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␏ (Scenteral Intelligence, aka SI) is a group I'm working on that would have similar methods, structure, and purpose. However, instead of updating NecroNet scans using NecroNet access, memebers would use Scent Death to update the Scenteral Intelligence Map. There are only 81 SIM points, compared to 200+ necrotech buildings, so this should be comparatively easy, but for the map to be useful, updates need to be fairly frequent. What I really need is people with "junk alts" to park them on SIM points and register as being the "watcher" for that point, then update it daily. That takes just 1-17 Ap and 2-3 IP hits. If you want to spend a few more AP, you can bounce back and forth between two adjacent (even diagonally adjacent) points and cover them both every day for only 13-28 AP (15 or 16 IP hits). Obviously the alts need "Scent Death", but lurching gait (and ankle grab) are not needed, unless you really want to cover 3-4 points a day. Swiers 18:34, 30 April 2008 (BST)
- As always, anyone here who wishes to assist in other wiki-projects are free to do so. The way I see it, if it improves the enjoyment of UD players or the UD Wiki in general, then that's good enough reason for anyone to want to help out. Good luck with your wiki-project. :) --Mobius 13:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Annoyance of Resets to Blanks Scans
In the suburbs I usually "patrol", the NT Buildings lay in ruins, primarily due to the zombie rampage throughout Malton. Anyways, because of the zombie occupation, another Wiki user reset the NecroNet scans for those buildings back to the "missing scan" image. How annoying. Sure, it reflects the current status quo, but that's more work for the next updater to do, having to re-type details in the template and having to dig up the Upload page for the NecroNet scan image. Unnecessary hassle, bleh. Anyone else run across resets or make the resets yourself? --The Masked Lurker 21:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- I did a reset a few months ago, but that was because the scans I posted were back from early-2007. That was back in the day when I posted any scan I could find for a location and the only member of NecroWatch was yours truly. After the project really started getting off the ground I felt it would be in everyone's best interests to get rid of those older scans so those of you posting scans could feel the glory of "posting first" for said location. It has a certainly thrill to it.
- That said, I had originally intended that scans would be reset to static after a set period of inactivity. What that period would be, I hadn't decided. One month? Two? I suppose it really just depended on how out-dated the information was, especially in terms of the current zombies situation. As such, I mostly leave it in the hands of locals to decide. --Mobius 13:27, 31 March 2008 (BST)
- - It has been suggested that a flag be added that switches the scan between the missing scan picture and the recent scan picture. That way, the filename and filetype doesn't have to be manually changed each time a NT Building goes active and inactive. As for the situation I was describing earlier, it had only been three days since I put up a scan before it got switched over to a picture of a missing scan. That's what I annoyed me the most. --The Masked Lurker 03:40, 3 April 2008 (BST)
- This is a very good idea. If anyone with the required wiki code knowledge sees this, you should definitely go through with this idea. One month would be a good interval, I think. -- CITIZEN VI 18:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Brilliant
Just completed my 50th scan. All it took was headshotting two zombies, repairing the building, installing a genny and searching a ruined auto repair for fuel. But man, was it worth it. If only i can survive the night in a loosely caded fully powered NT on my own...............--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- You know that you didn't need to get rid of zombies to take the scan?.. Excellent job, anyway --~~~~ [talk] 22:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yup. Zombies just let you power-up an NT building and scan away while they drool. Mind you, the life expectancy of your generator will be very short if left in the hands of the living dead, but hey, at least you get the scan. Good job collecting 50 scans! You're now 1/3 of the way to claiming your cake! --Mobius187 13:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I just hit my 30th scan today. Did you know no one had updated any Barville NT scans in almost 9 months? Yikes! Scored my ASE and Barville ToD at the same time! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 23:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Ghost Towns
According to the local news for Roachtown, it has too much activity going on to be really considered as a ghost town. However, it is still considered as one in the map of Malton suburbs. Would a NecroNet scan taken in Roachtown at this time count for the Ghost Recon ribbon? Or should we hoof our way over to East Becktown if we want the ribbon? --The Masked Lurker 18:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- We had some conversation about ghost towns on Ottari's talk page... Hm... Not sure what will Mobius say, but i think technically you qualify. Also i think that this ribbon must be removed fully as being dependent from sources outside A.L.I.C.E.'s reach. Maybe substituted with some another ribbon, maybe not. --~~~~ [talk] 18:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like the danger status of Roachtown is being contested as right now it's not ranked as a ghost town on the suburb map anymore. At this time only East Becktown is still considered a ghost town, so that option is still open to you. As Duke pointed out, if a suburb is considered a ghost town and your scans prove that is not the case you would still get the Ghost Recon badge, as the purpose of the badge isn't just to scan ghost towns, but rather report on their current status. Proving a suburb is not a ghost town is one of the reasons why scanning is important because the danger report system for suburbs is often based on flawed information (more often than not). It should be mentioned that if you do prove a suburb is NOT a ghost town, please update its suburb danger status, pointing to the scans as proof. On a final note, I will say that Ghost Recon, while a great idea (of mine) does have some issues. I am planning to add a few new medals and I will keep this in mind to avoid confusion in the future. Until then, East Becktown is your best bet at this time. --Mobius187 15:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Status Report
From: NecroTechian L3 Duke Garland To: <all@broadcast> Subject: Status Report Body: According to form FORMS-EN-2794-FORM as of 15:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC) there are 149 files in the NTNET2Local database, 57 are still counting as corrupted or missing. This might be a success of project, as 73.4% of data was restored just in several weeks of work since A.L.I.C.E. restoration. Congratulations! Duke B. Garland -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkfJziNWfkOPS3SkRAkvwAJ0WBogC5ZTZhTK5mhXsqXOua0hzIQCeJBe/ q/4Qr3Ym9Vf7CkNS1jePcUA=UZyY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- Nice report. I posted it (more or less/formatted for space) on the main NecroWatch wikipage. :) --Mobius187 13:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
The Most Crowded Scan
Can you beat this, huh? 578 zombies on 1 scan! --~~~~ [talk] 18:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Impressive. I hope you reported that in the Pitneybank news as it's a real headline-grabber. ;) --Mobius187 13:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, didn't even think about that... Should i? --~~~~ [talk] 17:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Only if you want to. Just link to the suburb reports, or Necrowatch, and quote the number of zombies (total). I would suggest also mentioning which buildings are being threatened, but I don't think that's really changed since I last reported (other than the numbers). Your call. --Mobius187 17:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, didn't even think about that... Should i? --~~~~ [talk] 17:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to old revisions of images being deleted (what i was generally against :( ) i've reuploaded the image here (good that i have all my scans archived) --~~~~ [talk] 07:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yup. Word came down the grapevine (i.e. Grim) that I needed to delete old revisions because they were eating up too much space on the server (or eventually will if they kept piling up). As such, I am tasked with cleaning up old scan image revisions as their due dates come up. A shame really, as I liked the idea of the images creating a "history of scans", but it seems that goes against current wiki policy. Ah well. --Mobius187 13:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh lookie, I include(makes it not show up on unlinked).--Karekmaps?! 21:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Argh! Making me do math at 8:18 AM on a Monday? Well two can play at that game, I cheated and used the Windows Calculator so all that pesky math wouldn't hurt my brain. I counted 578 zombies. Not bad, but Giddings Mall still had more. Nevertheless, an "A" for effort. --Mobius 13:21, 31 March 2008 (BST)
I did a completely blank scan today. And another two with only one zed on each. Can I claim the least crowded prize?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- In my humble opinion, yes. --~~~~ [talk] 22:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Go for it! :) --Mobius187 03:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- And another one today. This is silly. Want to get a rank quickly. Try and do the SE recon like me. I'm averaging 4 a day.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- So far only one person has managed to get a Recon Master ribbon badge, and that's Ottari. I checked to confirm if this was the case. So the field is wide-open for you to earn teh first SE Master Recon badge. You can do it! --Mobius187 13:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- And another one today. This is silly. Want to get a rank quickly. Try and do the SE recon like me. I'm averaging 4 a day.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Go for it! :) --Mobius187 03:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Got the new most crowded scan contender big numbers --Mr NoName001 05:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's... wow... 799 zombies. Very impressive. Methinks I shall increase the zombie numbers for the Combat Recon ribbon medal. --Mobius187 13:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ehm, no... Don't increase it. Don't limit all necrotechians to this single siege... --~~~~ [talk] 13:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well I certainly woouldn't raise it to 800, if that's what you're inferring. I was just thinking that maybe 150/250 was on the low side after seeing these results. Perhaps 250/400 (one location/scattered)? --Mobius187 13:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- I like 150/250 more. I'm actually seeking a place outside Giddings siege that would qualify this. If raise to 250/400 - it would be nearly impossible --~~~~ [talk] 14:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well I wouldn't want to make it a pain in the butt to get that ribbon. Alright I'll keep the original numbers. --Mobius187 19:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- I like 150/250 more. I'm actually seeking a place outside Giddings siege that would qualify this. If raise to 250/400 - it would be nearly impossible --~~~~ [talk] 14:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well I certainly woouldn't raise it to 800, if that's what you're inferring. I was just thinking that maybe 150/250 was on the low side after seeing these results. Perhaps 250/400 (one location/scattered)? --Mobius187 13:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ehm, no... Don't increase it. Don't limit all necrotechians to this single siege... --~~~~ [talk] 13:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Just when you thought the numbers couldn't get any higher Even Bigger--Mr NoName001 16:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
The Great Radio Group Massacre
Group Confirmed. | |
This frequency was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply. |
I know this is a random request, but it's for all groups regardless of size.
-- Linkthewindow Talk 22:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm. As cool as I think it is that NecroWatch has 26.24 MHz, I'm just not sure if it actually serves a real purpose. NecroWatch is more of a project than a group, so there is hardly any need for coordination between its members as they all really just do their own thing. That said, I have no idea who added the station or why, or if they are even using it (as I'm retired from UD). Hmmm. I would say keep it for now. If after the purge is completed there are still too few stations, then I would consider removing it. How does that sound? --Mobius 18:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. I've listed you as active, as it looks like we will have a lot of inactive stations. Thanks! Linkthewindow Talk 07:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Discussions: Improvements & Issues
If you're interested in NecroWatch, are full of new ideas or perhaps want to discuss existing ones, this is the place to do it. Here users can also post about any issues they've encountered, in the hopes of working out fixes. As always post the more current topics at the top of this section.
Things To Do?
Hey all! With Alka burning up the maps and with my field guide nearing completion, I wanted to post something about some changes I'd propose for the NecroWatch pages and stuff. Let's talk about it.
- Changes to the NecroWatch menu bar. I made a new one here that makes some minor formatting changes and adds "resources" to the main nav bar. However, my wiki-fu failed me a little and I have no idea why the black background behind the NW logo doesn't extend the length of the nav bar. You'll see.
- Creation of NecroWatch/Resources. What I think we ought to do is move the instructions for taking and posting scans to Resources, along with an include for the Recon Map and the Field Guide. That leaves the FAQ page to act solely as the FAQ, rather than part FAQ and part instruction manual.
- Update the FAQ. There are one or two questions that were asked here on our talk page (I'm mostly thinking of the "do you defend NTs?") that should find their way into the FAQ, I think.
- Move Alka's recon map from his user space to Templates. It's done, so it should be in the Template namespace.
- Move ALICE's "test" to somewhere more noticable in the NW space, so more people see it.
So... What do you think? ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 20:15, 29 March 2009 (BST)
- -> Fixed your Navbar (a bit) by using width=100% for the inner table.
- -> Well i'm new but I'm also experienced user, programmer and gamer - Most people by chance will be not. We need step-by-step instructions how to update scans, reminder to also update building status, and instructions for this. Also, tell new people what they can (but by no means have to) do - posting news etc. If someone don't want to post news, maybe make a queue for "News to write", so not everybody need to watch all NTscan: namespace pages.
- -> No comments on the FAQ as i'm too new around
- -> Yep, don't think I will do more work on this, except when suggestions come in.
- -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 22:44, 29 March 2009 (BST)
- I checked a couple of those items off the list. As for ALICE's test, well, that's fine where it is... for people to find or not. That's part of the fun. Also, feel free to include your new FAQ's here for review. --Mobius 02:30, 30 March 2009 (BST)
NecroWatch Template
Just a heads' up, I noticed that although the {{NecroWatch}} template included a gender variable, this wasn't pointed out in the instructions for using the template, so I went ahead and added some. Hope no one minds. I also linked Dr. Mycroft's {{NecroWatch250width}} template in there and updated it to include a gender variable. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Creation of "NecroWatch/Scans" or something similar?
To prevent the future deletions of "unlinked" image files for NT scans. Read the details here and let's talk about whether its worth the effort. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'll take it that's a no. It'd probably be a lot of work for minimal payoff, anyway. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 05:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'll do it, once I've done a few other things IRL... if I haven't done it in a few days, just leave a message here. Linkthewindow Talk 05:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh! Thanks again, Link! You're a peach. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Boy, a guy overlooks a topic for a couple of days and everyone assume he just doesn't care. It's a shame that the category we created doesn't count towards "linking" the image, as right now each scan image was linked to Category:Necronet. Even so, I agree that we should try and keep older scans, especially in the case where they are temporarily replaced with the "static" GIF. There was a time when someone wanted to actually create trending reports with all the scan images for each location, so people could see, via graph, how many zombies were in the area over time. Of course that was a while back and the effort was killed off when another Wiki Mod stepped in and deleted the wikipage/scans... something about the images being too large. It was a while back (2006?), so I don't recall the exact details. But yes, feel free to create a wikipage to store all the scan images. We certainly appreciate the effort. --Mobius 14:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh! Thanks again, Link! You're a peach. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'll do it, once I've done a few other things IRL... if I haven't done it in a few days, just leave a message here. Linkthewindow Talk 05:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I've done about a third of all the scans that must be done. It's going to be a big page. Linkthewindow Talk 10:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- I know the feeling. When I created the alphabetical listing for each suburb's NT scans it just seemed to take forever... which of course wasn't that big a surprise for me since I had already gone to the trouble of revamping the wikipages for every NT building in Malton prior to starting this project. Good job so far. Let us know when the images have been safely stored. --Mobius 12:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I'm sorry. This is probably my fault, since I was the one who thought it would be a brilliant idea to clear out the older scan images in favour of the scan missing image. Apologies. -- CITIZEN VI 14:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think it's your fault at all. Updating everything with the missing scan was a good idea, and we should probably do it more often than we do, or maybe even get a bot to do it. However, when the images ended up being linked to no pages, they inadvertently were removed. The page Link is working on will make sure that doesn't happen again. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I'm sorry. This is probably my fault, since I was the one who thought it would be a brilliant idea to clear out the older scan images in favour of the scan missing image. Apologies. -- CITIZEN VI 14:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I haven't forgotten about this - editing and loading big pages is hard when you've been shaped. Linkthewindow Talk 11:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
"Field Guide"?
Hey guys. I have started poking around with a NecroWatch Field Guide in my sandpit. I'm looking for input, chiefly on whether or not it is necessary and could be useful, and if so, then what else should be included to make it better? It's a work in progress, but I guess I'm curious to know if it's something I should keep working on. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- This is an excellent idea. If I may make a suggestion, it would be very useful to have a section on surviving and getting scans in totally destroyed suburbs. I recently had to figure out a way to make my way through a ruined wasteland filled with zombies to gain a scan from a NT facility that was utterly gutted and full of zombies. It was only because I came prepared for the task and armed with the knowledge of how to survive in ruined suburbs that not only did I get my scan but I also came away completely unscathed. -- CITIZEN VI 19:31, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- VI, I made a section for that here. Do you want to take a whack at it? If not, I'll try to get to it this coming week. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 08:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- No constructive comments from me at this time, I've been a bit busy with two competitions (one of which just wrapped up yesterday). When I have some more time I'll take a closer look. The only thing I keep thinking is maybe turning that wikicode suburb/NT map into a proper template, one that's more user-friendly. Something to think about. Anyway good job with the guide so far. After you're done we'll have to see where we can place it. Maybe a "Help" section. --Mobius 18:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- VI, I made a section for that here. Do you want to take a whack at it? If not, I'll try to get to it this coming week. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 08:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I made a fresh round of edits, but I'm still interested in someone more veteran than me taking a first crack at the "surviving in ruined suburbs" section. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 09:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- I would offer, but I never actually stayed in a ruined suburb. It was all sunshine and happiness for me. Hopefully though someone here has and can offer some suggestions. As for second-hand advice, I commonly hear people using strategies like hiding in ruined non-resource buildings with open doors, or even dropping a generator, repairing and barricading, and then destroying the generator to kill the light. I suppose it depends on the resources and AP of teh person. Also, I used to always keep 10 AP on me at all times, just in case I needed to exit a building. What else? Oh, always keeping 1 FAK on you at all times and using it only to heal yourself from infection. Then when you do, head to a hospital to get a new FAK to replace it. That's about it for me. --Mobius 13:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, take a look at this rough draft and tell me what you think. I'm still very open for input. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 08:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- For me as a new player, i like it a lot. Very helpful. I only wonder why i should carry revivication syringes, is it wise to waste 10 AP on a revive when doing a scanning tour? -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 09:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Depends, I guess. I always carry at least three because I also help to reclaim NTs and drop by revive points whenever I'm in a moderate or safe suburb (since I'm not needing to spend AP looking for generators). If you're just intending to sprint from one facility to the next, I wouldn't worry about it. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, i usually help and/or revive too. But your guide seem to focus on scanning only, so I'd maybe list syringes as "optional" -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 09:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Good point. I think what I'll do is point that out, and remove them from the suggested "pan and scan" inventory. I'll leave them in the "reclamation" inventory. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 15:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, i usually help and/or revive too. But your guide seem to focus on scanning only, so I'd maybe list syringes as "optional" -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 09:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Depends, I guess. I always carry at least three because I also help to reclaim NTs and drop by revive points whenever I'm in a moderate or safe suburb (since I'm not needing to spend AP looking for generators). If you're just intending to sprint from one facility to the next, I wouldn't worry about it. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The Team Listing
This List - Like err, what the hell is that thing supposed to be sorted by? It seems an indecisive combination of by scan count, alphabetically and order of joining. I would think the best method is by total scans, anybody have an opinion? -- RoosterDragon 01:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Saw that too. I think some order is in order. Eh, eh? :P --Met Fan F 01:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- I *think* it's by rank, then alphabetical within each rank. Though I'd have no objections to simply sorting it by # of scans. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 09:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yet another Scooby-Doo mystery solved. Extropymine is correct. The Member list is sorted by Rank as the primary index, and then within each of those rank sets it's sorted alphabetically. Originally the list was sorted alphabetically, but as member gained ranks I opted to keep those higher ranked members at the top of the list, as those ranks grew I sorted them alphabetically as well. --Mobius 13:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Since ranks are just scans count but grouped arbitrarily, would it not be better to go straight by scans anyway? The table looks a bit odd otherwise. -- RoosterDragon 14:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well I'm game. Like I said, the original sort order was more a factor of how the list evolved as more members joined. Still, I cannot help but sense this request was not motived so much by the need to order the list, so much as finding a way to actually get to the top of that list, am I right? The only problem I forsee is that I have a lot of overhead tasks these days, and not every member updates the member list. Rather than see myself get roped into updating the list for these individuals I have come up with an even better solution. The member list sorts itself now. You heard me, and all at the touch of a button. High-fives for everyone! Alright... --Mobius 23:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- I love it! That's a good feature! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 03:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well I'm game. Like I said, the original sort order was more a factor of how the list evolved as more members joined. Still, I cannot help but sense this request was not motived so much by the need to order the list, so much as finding a way to actually get to the top of that list, am I right? The only problem I forsee is that I have a lot of overhead tasks these days, and not every member updates the member list. Rather than see myself get roped into updating the list for these individuals I have come up with an even better solution. The member list sorts itself now. You heard me, and all at the touch of a button. High-fives for everyone! Alright... --Mobius 23:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Since ranks are just scans count but grouped arbitrarily, would it not be better to go straight by scans anyway? The table looks a bit odd otherwise. -- RoosterDragon 14:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yet another Scooby-Doo mystery solved. Extropymine is correct. The Member list is sorted by Rank as the primary index, and then within each of those rank sets it's sorted alphabetically. Originally the list was sorted alphabetically, but as member gained ranks I opted to keep those higher ranked members at the top of the list, as those ranks grew I sorted them alphabetically as well. --Mobius 13:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
On the subject, it might be worth "resetting" the leaderboards annually. A lot of the high-ranking people on the list don't seem to be scanning much anymore. Maybe an archival 2008 sub-page? Since part of the appeal of NW is the "contest" of getting scans (a very good way to trick people into helping the survivor community at-large), maybe having new contests every year would keep a steady flow of recruits? Alternatively, we could make some new ribbons to encourage people to keep on scanning, or maybe contests to earn a ribbon for the most scans during a given month. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- The contest is more of a ploy actually. Everybody loves to be a winner. Everybody loves cake. The winner gets cake. Bam. You're signed on for life. I do however see a point to perhaps removing some of the "low performers" who signed-up and have since done dididly-doo. I recall doing that once before. On the topic of recruiting, it's limited to whoever I spot posting scan updates, which in turn is spurred by the fact that I report scans in suburb news, which in turn advertises NecroWatch by default. Hence we reach Step 3: Profit. I do however agree... like Pokemon once you've collected them all you just don't feel as inclined to keep re-collecting them. It's boring. Rather we need new ribbons as you suggested. I was planning on creating a series of Trophy ribbons, like one called "Mob Chaser". It would be similar to Combat Recon, only instead of requiring a set number of zombies in the scan it requires you to beat the last "high score" (score = maximum numbers of zombies in a scan). The I create two versions of the ribbon, one for the title holder and one for former title holders. The idea behind this ribbon goes back to the old "Most Crowded Scan" thread. I'm also open to suggestions, so long as they are scan-themed. --Mobius 23:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- We're all winners, because we're here. I was thinking about things like month-long "scan drives" or something-- little mini-contests to award a ribbon for (most scans in April 2009, or most NTs visited in August 2009, etc). Assuming I'm still here in 2010 (and it seems likely), I'll be starting a new ribbon counter for myself to push myself to keep going. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 23:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- That might be interesting too. I'm just trying my best to avoid commiting myself to anything that would require me to work on a cycle-based task. Ribbons, by and large, resolve themselves as you generally know when you've earned one. Monthly contests would mean I would need to monitor a thread here, or something along those lines, and officiate a winner each month. I do still like the idea as, just maybe on a more limited scale. Maybe connected to a zombie-related event? Like who can post the most scans during Mall Tour. Then we just base the start-end time on when they say they started and ended. Another idea for a Trophy ribbon, largest number of zombies inside a mall scan. I might associate that with Mall Tour... --Mobius 23:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- We're all winners, because we're here. I was thinking about things like month-long "scan drives" or something-- little mini-contests to award a ribbon for (most scans in April 2009, or most NTs visited in August 2009, etc). Assuming I'm still here in 2010 (and it seems likely), I'll be starting a new ribbon counter for myself to push myself to keep going. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 23:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- EDIT: A further thought on "Mob Chaser", I just realized that it might be too cruel for newer members if the "bar" is set so high that no one can ever claim the trophy ribbon. As such, I've decided that the ribbon will be an annual trophy with a winner for each year, and each new year the limit is reset to 0. However, the trophy ribbon will not be handed out to its next winner until May 15th of that year. This gives people a chance to one-up each other with new maximum zombie totals, driving it up to a more reasonably high number before it's handed out. Now the option here is, if it's annual do we want there to only be one winner per year, or go with the whole "former title holder" ribbons? Meaning, several people could win the ribbon, but at the end of the year it's the last "winner" who has the formal ribbon and the others just have a lesser version.
- I don't see any reason to take away a ribbon from someone who won it previously. So I'd support the idea of the "former title holder" ribbon-- of if it's going to be annual, the ribbon(s) themselves could be subtly different, with "2008" or "2009" or something built right into the ribbon? ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 03:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, to clarify, each person who would win the ribbon would keep it. There wouldn't be any ribbons taken away. That would just be cruel. What I had meant, in part, was as you yourself suggested, namely that the ribbon is awarded on an annual basis and that each winner has a ribbon for that specific year (2008, 2009, 2010, ect). The ribbon would be neutral, but I would create a list showing the winner for each year, that way you can tell which years you had won the ribbon. What I had meant by "former title holders" was that I had considered giving a ribbon also to anyone who topped the current high score during the course of the year, but then didn't end up winning the ribbon because someone else reported a higher zombie count in their scan. That way you would still earn a ribbon for your efforts, even if you did not "win" for that year. It's like those participation ribbons that they hand out during track and field meets. Bottom line, all I need to do is create 2 ribbons, one for the winner and one for participants. Then I'll need to tweek the template to allow one or the other to be displayed. If that doesn't work out we can always just go with there being only the winner's trophy ribbon. --Mobius 17:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- So basically, a ribbon for "record-breaking scan" (which anyone can win and keep by breaking the current record, and can be won by several people over the course of the year as the "record" goes up and up), and then "most crowded scan 2009" (which is awarded at the end of the year to whoever is the leader at that moment). Sounds good! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Now I just need to design it, set the rules, and update the ribbon-displayer template wikicode. I'll probably get a better chance to do that this coming weekend, as this week I'm still overseeing the Hang 'Em High competition for the Dulston Alliance (it has nothing to do with NecroWatch). That competition ends on Saturday. So I might have time on Sunday after I hand out the trophies. --Mobius 13:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- So basically, a ribbon for "record-breaking scan" (which anyone can win and keep by breaking the current record, and can be won by several people over the course of the year as the "record" goes up and up), and then "most crowded scan 2009" (which is awarded at the end of the year to whoever is the leader at that moment). Sounds good! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, to clarify, each person who would win the ribbon would keep it. There wouldn't be any ribbons taken away. That would just be cruel. What I had meant, in part, was as you yourself suggested, namely that the ribbon is awarded on an annual basis and that each winner has a ribbon for that specific year (2008, 2009, 2010, ect). The ribbon would be neutral, but I would create a list showing the winner for each year, that way you can tell which years you had won the ribbon. What I had meant by "former title holders" was that I had considered giving a ribbon also to anyone who topped the current high score during the course of the year, but then didn't end up winning the ribbon because someone else reported a higher zombie count in their scan. That way you would still earn a ribbon for your efforts, even if you did not "win" for that year. It's like those participation ribbons that they hand out during track and field meets. Bottom line, all I need to do is create 2 ribbons, one for the winner and one for participants. Then I'll need to tweek the template to allow one or the other to be displayed. If that doesn't work out we can always just go with there being only the winner's trophy ribbon. --Mobius 17:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason to take away a ribbon from someone who won it previously. So I'd support the idea of the "former title holder" ribbon-- of if it's going to be annual, the ribbon(s) themselves could be subtly different, with "2008" or "2009" or something built right into the ribbon? ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 03:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Is the left-alignment necessary for the sorting feature? I notice that the list has changed from center to left alignment, and that the date of this change coincides with the implementation of the sorting function. Also, is there a way to insert a time stamp without having to type the four tildes? VI 00:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually I compared the BEFORE and AFTER, but I do not see any alignment changes. The first 4 columns were left aligned and the last two are centered. Of course if you would prefer one of the left-aligned columns be centered, let me know and I'll take it into consideration. In truth, except for maybe Rank, I'm flexible as to whether a column is centered or not. Of course I prefer Research Area and Total Scans stay centered, as in the first case it works best for the Master Recon ribbon, and also for the scan totals.
- In answer to your second question, you can sign a post with one fewer "~", but then you lose the timestamp portion. But you probably knew that already. In truth I tried to code the four tildes into the template, but the bloody thing just kept inserting my signature. There seemed to be no way to preserve the wikicode and still get it to activate. If I were the hazard a guess... maybe it could be done if we could determine a way to assign the four tildes to a variable, or parse the value into the signature field, but only at the moment after the template is used. It's been a while since I last experimented with it, but I'll take another look. Anything to make your jobs easier. :) --Mobius 13:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Are you using Firefox? Check out this screenshot:
- See what I mean? VI 03:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually I'm using IE. For some reason I thought you were talking about the text inside the table being left-aligned... so I kept comparing the two images. Then it dawned on me that you meant the entire "table" was left-aligned. Okay. That doesn't happen for me, but let me try this. I placed center tags around the table. That should center it... in theory. Let me know if that doesn't fix the issue. As a note, should you ever spot anything else that looks strange let me know, as there might be other "works only for IE" issues that I am unaware of. --Mobius 03:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
A Customizable NT Map?
Mobius, I know you're quite skilled at Wiki, so I'll direct this question to you-- how hard would it be to make a customizable version of the NT Status Map for NW users to copy onto their userpages to track our scans? Instead of using colors for suburb danger and NT status, it could use suburb colors to signify whether or not we've "finished" a suburb (grey for no NTs in suburb, red for no NTs in suburb scanned, yellow for partially complete, green for all NTs scanned), or dot colors to show if we've ever scanned at an NT (red for not scanned, green for scanned). Each NW user would need a different map based on the same template. Just wondering. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- The NT Status Map is comprised of several templates, which if you wanted to replicate would require you to re-create them, potentially as sub-pages of your own userpage (and just including your userpage prior to the template name). The key difference being that you would not want to link to the NT's status, as dictated by its danger report. Here is a list of the template wikicode you would need to copy:
- Template:StatusMap_NT - This is the primary template where all subsequent templates are linked.
- Template:StatusMap_SuburbDanger - The suburb danger report (colour coded chart) and is a sub-template in the StatusMap_NT template.
- Template:StatusMap_SuburbLinks - This is where each of the suburb wikipage links are organized and is a sub-template in the StatusMap_NT template.
- Template:StatusMap_Formatter - This is the wikicode that displays each NT location's Danger Report-based "status" and is a sub-template (code) in the StatusMap_NT template.
- Template:StatusMap_Legend - An index of all the possible NT statuses. You won't need this, but feel free to replace it with one of your own design.
- Now to create the map you want this is what you are going to have to do.
- Step 1 - Copy the wikicode for templates 2 and 3 onto new sub-wikipages created under your userpage, with each subwikipage named after the associated template (i.e. User:Extropymine/StatusMap_SuburbDanger).
- Step 2 - Copy the wikicode for template 1 onto a new sub-wikipage created under your userpage, but you are free to name it whatever you want (DO NOT save it yet).
- Step 3 - By using the template code for the StatusMap_Formatter template, hardcode it into your new StatusMap_NT template (or whatever you decided to call it). This process will be lengthy as you will need to replace the wikicode for every NT building. Unlike the original StatusMap_Formatter template you will need to make some adjustments as we will not be linking to the Danger Report after all. Here is a sample of the wikicode that you should insert:
- BEFORE:
- <div style="position:absolute; left:777px; top:1px">
- {|{{User:DangerReport/The Trood Building|template=StatusMap Formatter}}|
- |}</div>
- AFTER:
- <div style="position:absolute; left:777px; top:1px">
- {|title="the Trood Building" style="width:7px; height:7px; background:red"
- |}</div>
- Step 4 - Scroll to the bottom of the code for template 1 and remove the following:
- <center>
- {{Z|large|'''For further information, see the [[Necrotech Information Center]]'''}}<br>
- [[Image:Necrotech logo.png]]
- {{StatusMap Legend}}
- </center>
- As you can guess the background: value mentioned in Step 3 is where you will set the NT's colour, red or green, depending on whether or not you have scanned the location yet. As noted, to adjust the original wikicode for template 1 to use this new hardcoded method will take some time for you to complete. Obviously as you progress with your scans you will need to edit the template to account for each NT building you have scanned from, but that's to be expected. And there you have it. --Mobius 17:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- A simpler solution might be to use a list and basic key style map like I used on The Culture Tour 2008. Individual NTs can be checked from the list as and when they are completed and the map can be used as an easy identifier of completed/semi completed/unstarted suburbs. I used grey (ghost town) to indicate suburbs without locations, green (safe) for completed, yellow/orange (dangerous) for semi completed suburbs and red (very dangerous) for unstarted suburbs. This meant I could use existing templates to save myself the confusion and hassle of coding my own, something that I think could put people off. I'd be happy to code up this simpler version if people would like it, I had started on the idea for my Necrotechnician before he idled. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Could you not use this map? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Now that map is easier to manage. You could then use 4 colours (red=no scans, yellow=some scanned, green=all scanned, grey=no NTs) for each suburb. As for the # / # in each suburb, that could denote how many of the NTs in the suburb you have scanned to date. While not as specific as the NT Status Map idea, it at least would give you an overhead view and not be as large a wikicode monster. From there you could always keep a journal of the specifics associated with this map. --Mobius 17:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- That's the map version people have been using since...forever really. You don't need to mess about adapting the NT Status Map. Check out Morgan Blair's awesome page which has entries for each building, and also that style of map at the bottom. It has a few more entries than it needs (only 213 NTs after all) but you get the idea. -- RoosterDragon 19:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Now that map is easier to manage. You could then use 4 colours (red=no scans, yellow=some scanned, green=all scanned, grey=no NTs) for each suburb. As for the # / # in each suburb, that could denote how many of the NTs in the suburb you have scanned to date. While not as specific as the NT Status Map idea, it at least would give you an overhead view and not be as large a wikicode monster. From there you could always keep a journal of the specifics associated with this map. --Mobius 17:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Could you not use this map? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ideas, everyone. I think for now I'll use Ross' map, but it might be a neat long-term project to do it the hard way. It may well require better Wiki skillz than I possess. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 20:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I cleaned it up and blanked it out, and posted it below. It's all formatted and just needs the danger levels and x/x's changed to be useful for anyone in NW. If we want it somewhere else, go ahead and move it. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Might be worth marking it a template, with express instructions to subst whenever used. Anyone agree with that? -- RoosterDragon 18:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea. I'll play with it to try to include a "key" to help people use/understand it, if we want. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I screwed up the key, as anyone can see below. My wiki-fu is still weak. I was trying to put the key inside the dark box, in its' own lighter box, centered. I have somehow managed to *not* do that. I'm almost positive there's a simple fix, but I just don't know what it is. If someone knows how to fix it, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll drop the key tomorrow and we'll move forward from there. Sorry. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Kicked into shape. -- RoosterDragon 18:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, Rooster! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 18:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- If someone is interested, i made a Template from the map below. Just pass username, gender, and subburbs with number of scans to the template. Maybe this is useful. See Link for examples. --Alka Selzer 20:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Good job. If anyone needs one then they can borrow your template. :) --Mobius 12:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's great! When you're comfortable with it, we should move it off your sandpit and into template history! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, i cleaned the template up (removed linebreaks to keep table height), put the header in a table too and added an align= parameter so users can decide if they like the map left, right or center on their page. I moved it to User:Alka_Selzer/Templates/Necroreconmap. I think it is ready. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 09:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. How does everyone else feel? I think it should be moved to the main Template: namespace so everyone can use it and it can get easily categorized. I'd suggest calling it Template:NecroWatchMap or something, to easily distinguish it from the NT Status Map. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 05:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Minor edit: Noticed that the Header table background is the default white, so i changed it to a color more in tune with the rest of the map. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 09:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- If someone is interested, i made a Template from the map below. Just pass username, gender, and subburbs with number of scans to the template. Maybe this is useful. See Link for examples. --Alka Selzer 20:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, Rooster! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 18:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Kicked into shape. -- RoosterDragon 18:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I screwed up the key, as anyone can see below. My wiki-fu is still weak. I was trying to put the key inside the dark box, in its' own lighter box, centered. I have somehow managed to *not* do that. I'm almost positive there's a simple fix, but I just don't know what it is. If someone knows how to fix it, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll drop the key tomorrow and we'll move forward from there. Sorry. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea. I'll play with it to try to include a "key" to help people use/understand it, if we want. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
2009 NecroWatch Recon Map
A.L.I.C.E. has thoughtfully assembled this map to track the progress of licensed NecroTechnician NAME's progress as HE/SHE reports NecroNet scans from the many NecroTech facilities spread across the city of Malton.
Awards
Good to see more awards avaliable. But heres a moan. If like me your concentrating on SE Malton, theres nothing really i can get! How about an award for the rowcliffe building? I mean its got a zombie group who's only aim is to destroy it!--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Maaan, i did rowcliffe on 22nd, don't won't to return there again. besides, it's just 1 suburb away from morrish, that had an award added. all in one place = bad --~~~~ [talk] 20:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe the Axtence Building? It stands near center of it's suburb that doesn't have other NTs or malls. very stand-alone --~~~~ [talk] 21:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm all for providing ribbon medals associated with SE Malton. In general there are two types of ribbon medals associated with suburbs, either one to commemorate an important/famous NT building (i.e. the Blackmore Building) or a "tour of duty". The main stipulation for a tour being that it has 5-6 NTs, or has 4 that are proven be be under constant threat (i.e. because a dangerous zombie horde occupies that suburb for a majority of their time). I don't think I'll add anymore tour ribbons at this time, but you can make a case for an important/famous NT building in your area. Just name the ones you think are famous and tell me why. For example, how famous is the Went Building in Stanbury Village? --Mobius187 23:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- True, there should be some distance between the NTs, especially when we're fishing for a new title-holder among NTs which are all fairly famous to some degree. A pity the Quartly Library in Roftwood isn't an NT. Hmmm. How about the Malcolm Building in Whittenside? It seems like a popular NT associated with Fort Perryn. Someone at least went to a fair bit of trouble to record the building's history on its wikipage. --Mobius187 12:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- On a different note, how about the SW sector if the SE sector will get one? Sure, I'm glad that the SE sector is being considered since that sector is where my sole char is hanging around the majority of the time. However, the SW sector should be considered, just to be fair. The northern half of Malton does have the majority of the suburb-related ribbons. --The Masked Lurker 16:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- I wonder what makes north Malton so damn popular? Well you're in luck, as I planned to release ribbons in sets of three anyway, so one of the remaining two ribbons could be for an NT in SW Malton. Does anyone have any suggestions for a famous NT in SW Malton? --Mobius187 17:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just for a note, SW part of Malton has fewer NTs than rest. Look at Crooketon, Mornington, Wykewood, Reganbank, Lerwill Heights - no NTs at all, 1 in Grigg Heights and 1 in North Blythville... A bit thicker in south, but not as thick as in Molebank are, for example, or Eastonwood area. --~~~~ [talk] 22:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Marathon
- Another thought. How about a ribbon for each of the 4 corners of Malton? There's already one for Dakerstown. So let's put one together for Dulston, for Miltown, and for New Arkham. --The Masked Lurker 16:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Right, I'll look into creating a ribbon for this. I had actually something planned along these lines, a "marathon ribbon" of sorts that required you to report from a series of NTs (one per designated suburb) along a route, with the goal of completing the course within a set time frame. The four corners were a major part of that course. Later the holders of these ribbons would be allowed to participate in a larger marathon that would involve one of the much anticipated "trophies" I mentioned. For those who don't know, trophies will either be connected to an event (like a marathon possibly) or a stat. For example, say, "Most Populated Scan". The person who wins the trophy holds it and has his name etched into it (so to speak) until the next person wins it. Of course before I go forward with any of this I would like to hear what people think about these ideas. No point starting up something no one is interested in, so it's survey time! --Mobius187 17:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- How about multiple levels of marathon ribbons or multiple race courses? Since you were talking about qualifying races for participating in a trophy event, how about a 2-week-long race where one character has to acquire NecroNet scans from all the NT Buildings from each of the corner suburbs (i.e. Dakerstown, Dulston, Miltown, and New Arkham). It doesn't matter what order, as long as all the scans are acquired by one profile within the span of 14 days. The first one to do it in that timeframe would get a qualifying ribbon. Iwitness would be necessary to record your presence at an NT Building.
- Hmmm, maybe it shouldn't be called a ribbon anymore. If it's going to be an event that's going to be announced as taking place at certain times of the year, maybe it should be called a medal. It's appropriate since it's going to be used as a qualifier (Possibly have a race one-a-month?) for participating in a trophy event (Trophy race once every three months? A seasonal event? Held during each equinox and each solstice?). --The Masked Lurker 17:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- To build upon what you suggested Lufio, what we could do is have marathon ribbons, which would act as merits (similar to "tours of duty", just on a grander scale) and marathon trophies/medals that would be awarded to a specific winner of a marathon, rather than just to whoever chooses to participate. A qualification to participate in the trophy/medal race(s) would be to get at least 1 marathon ribbon, for example "Four Corners" could be one. You still have to report that you complete all the required scans from all 4 suburbs from each corner, but you're not competing against anyone but time deadline.
- I could create, say, 3 marathon ribbons, with "Four Corners" being the starter. Based on that distance seems a bit "done", as that's the maximum a player can actually travel. The other two ribbons, if I end up opting to create them (based on feedback), would probably have to either be a set path through more dangerous suburbs or increasing the number of NT scans required (i.e. 1 NT from each suburb between Dulston and Dakerstown, for example).
- That said, the marathon trophy/medal would be an event where we set a specific date, and then everyone sets off to collect all the scans. Since you guys are fairly scattered I don't think it's fair to create a "starting point". Rather you can select the NT closest to your location (as they would be evenly spread out in every quadrant so to be fair) and then you move outwards from there. The goal will be to report scans from all the building on the list (race course) in the shortest time possible. To make it interesting I think we should also agree to post a link to each scan in a race header I'll create, so everyone can keep track of how well their competitors are doing. Perhaps even reporting commentary on incidents along the way (i.e. travel to an NT, but find it's being sacked by zombies). The person who completes the race first would then be awarded the trophy/medal (via template) and have their name added to a list on the Members wikipage for that trophy. Also the duration time (from first scan to last) would be posted so people can compare how they do against previous winners.
- I do have a question, how do you guys think we should handle the way-points? Should it be any NT within a target suburb, or a specific NT in each suburb (for added difficulty), or all the NTs within a target suburb (for even more difficulty)? --Mobius187 19:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Okay, here is what I've come up with so far on the "marathon" ribbon medal(s):
- Minor marathon ribbons will be isolated to each quadrant, but obtainable by members who prefer to stay on in that quadrant of Malton (4 ribbon medals).
- Major marathon ribbons will require members to cross all 4 quadrants of Malton in varying degrees based on difficulty.
- Members must post an iWitness link to their scan in addition to posting the actual scan image.
- Members must report scans from each of the required NT buildings (way-points), but may do so in any order.
- The scan images (via iWitness) must all be completed within a specific time period.
- The fastest time(s) will be recorded for each race, and members ranked according to their times upon successful completion of each race.
- At least one minor marathon ribbon is required prior to competing for a major/trophy marathon.
- Some marathon races may include "scoring" based on random factors (i.e. total survivors inside NT, total zombies shown, total ID'd horde zombies, total race time, ect).
- Races that include scoring will rank racers based on the total score, not just the race completion time (i.e. fastest time).
No doubt this brings up certain questions. The reason for scoring is that it allows shorter races to still have something to aim for other than time. Some races may even be won based on major local battles, so timing itself becomes a factor. Namely, do you try to collect scans when a major horde is assaulting a suburb and hope for a higher score, but risk being killed in the process and your race time penalized for it? To start things off I think I'll create the minor marathon ribbon medals, and two major ribbon medals (the aforementioned "Four Corners" and one other). Based on how much you like these races we can expand from there. --Mobius187 20:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- No further comments? I'll assume then that you all agree with these guidelines for the marathon ribbon medals. I'll begin work on creating the 6 ribbons previously mentioned and will let everyone know when they are availble. --Mobius187 18:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Challenges
Im thinking out loud. How about other challenges. Maybe a necrotech is experiencing problems, with calibration or something. You could ask a necrotechnician to do X scans from that building within a timeframe of Y days or something. Which would be quite hard with say blackmore.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- That possible. I'm reluctant to place a ribbon medal though at a location where someone can already earn another ribbon medal from reporting there, so I think that may need to be factored in (i.e. Blackmore Watchkeeper). We could create it that the ribbon is not associated with a specific suburb, but instead requires a suburb reported as "Red" (Very Dangerous), although that does bring back the issues associated with proper reporting of the suburb's threat level (i.e. Ghost Recon). The other option is to try and select a suburb known to be a hotspot, say in central Malton. Then the objective would be to report at least once per day for a set number of days. The only concern I would have is if RL came along and ruined it for someone, so we may not wants challenges that take too long to reduce the likelihood that RL will interrupt it, especially if they lasted for a long time only to have that happen. --Mobius187 20:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- It would be a challenge if said building is constantly ruined, for example Stonnard and some of Eastonwood NTs. you need to bring your own gen+fuel to make 1 scan (that is enough for recon progress) in such NT, but it (gen) will be destroyed by guarding zombies within few hours. Thus to report, say 7 days in a row is a big challenge indeed! Blackmore? not really, when it is battled, it's easy to spot a moment when there's a running gen without using your own. --~~~~ [talk] 11:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- But as an idea, how about a co-op for such ruined challenges? (and ribbons earned in co-op in general) --~~~~ [talk] 11:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, a challenge ribbon would make more sense if it were associated with a specific building, namely one that is known for being often ransacked/ruined or occupied with zombies, but at the same time is not famous enough to merit survivor intervention (so no easy openings or assistance from other survivors). That said, as there is already a "Tour of Duty" ribbon associated with Eastonwood I think we may want to look for another suburb. What about the suburbs along the west border in northwest Malton? I'm fairly sure they stay red/orange or ghost town almost year-round due to the efforts of Extinction. Roywood perhaps? The Gilesi Building in particular is surrounded by 5 empty blacks making it harder to approach and was reported to be "protected" by zombies.
- On the matter of co-op ribbons, I'm all for it, but can you guys pull it off? NecroWatch is pretty much an organization that scatters you guys across Malton. I would hate to think I'm creating a scenario similar to a co-op mission in Guild Wars, where you have to find a team, but no one (or hardly anyone) is at that mission. It sucks big time. The other option is, well, that co-op is optional. Or more specifically, if you want to work with someone jointly to obtain the ribbons (for each of you), you can or you can work alone. Obviously working alone would be harder. --Mobius187 13:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, i've noted recently that my characters sometimes are 1-3 days after Rosslessness or Ottari, I've already met in-game and said hi to Techhead, the Gnome, Ghita and Yabel, so we're not that spread out. Co-op can help in situations with busy RL that you mentioned. i also don't like it being made too mandatory. --~~~~ [talk] 19:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- How many days do you guys think a challenge should last for? I'm thinking maybe 5-7 days, with one scan per day. As Duke noted, that could add up to 5-7 generators/fuels. You would also need to factor in possible searches if you lacked the supplies (i.e. working alone) or were killed (you would need to be revived before you miss the 1-day scan window between scans. --Mobius187 18:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- 7 days... 5 days... i cannot decide. i'm bending towards 7 + "you can do it together" co-op (i.e. if another guy posted one today, you may not bother posting your own - it will count to your "team" anyway. Though, leave some kind of limitation, like each co-oping teammate needs to do at least 3 out of 7 if there are two of them and 2 out of 7 if three) --~~~~ [talk] 19:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- 2-3 scans out of 7 in itself doesn't seem like much of a challenge in and of itself. How about either we cap co-op as 2-member teams or we incur additional days per each member beyond the initial. So if you try the challenge by yourself it requires 5 scans, 1 scan per day. If you try the challenge with other members for each additional member add +2 days. So 7 days/scans for a 2-member co-op team, 9 days/scans for a 3-member co-op team, ect. That way you share resources and "lives" (should one of you meet an unfortunate end), but it adds additional risk. Regardless though, let's have it that each member of a co-op team would need to report at least 3 of the scans themselves. --Mobius187 21:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
No Peer Review?
When I was first looking through the site, it all seemed so slick, for a minute I actually believed the "A.L.I.C.E. automatically promotes" line... But for all the various ribbons, I figured there would be some sort of application process, or required documentation, or whatever. Heh, maybe I'm just the kind of person who likes paperwork and such, but of course, having more (or any, where not needed) isn't really a good thing, and submitting a NecroNet scan already requires updating no less then three wikipages. However, I have this vague feeling of... "impropriety'"—for lack of a better description—when I can simultaneously award myself both the All-Seeing Eye Medal and the Paynterton Tour of Duty Medal, while at no point having to announce, record, or in any way justify that it was in order for me to do so (and "no", I'm not just looking for fanfare).
So, I have the audacity to suggest consideration of the following "two" implementations. One, expansion of the Recon page (or an additional page in a similar layout), so that licensed NecroTechnicians can sign the record whenever they have been "awarded" a ribbon (and perhaps also briefly document what it was for: in the case of the All-Seeing Eye, Ghost Recon—what suburb—and Combat Recon Medals—what facility, how many zeds); and Two, a Talk sub-page where we can just say, "Hey, this suburb was listed as a ghost-town "here", and when I scanned it, scans had not been made since "when", so I'm awarding myself "this" ribbon. No disputes? Great." Aside from being a place for people (such as myself) to assuage the need for some measure of "processing", it would be nice to have a place to see when other NecroTechnicians are achieving great feats of NecroNet scanning prowess!
Maybe this would all be both totally unneeded and unwanted (but maybe not), so I thought I'd put it out there, and see if there was any support for something like this. I don't think it would be at all difficult to do (wiki-wise)—maybe a bit of A.L.I.C.E. humor (and some ASCII art of cake), and as for using it, I don't think it would require any more effort then submitting a routine scan, and would of course need to be done with far less frequency. The hardest part would be to document previously earned achievements, a task which I would volunteer for of course, it being my proposal! --Morgan Blair 21:50, 29 April 2008 (BST)
Tour of Duty
More Tours of Duty? We could possibly combine East and West Becktown, a total of 7 necrotech facilities, and North and South Blythville, for a total of 5 necrotech facilities.--ChuckWade87 14:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
NecroWatch Scan age map
As I'm targeting on NT Buildings with outdated scans, i used my leet Scripting skills™ and created a set of scripts using shellscript and perl. These scripts are fetching the scan image pages, parsing the last scandate, and calculates average scanimage age for all suburbs. It tags suburbs with average scan age up to 14 days as recent, average scan age up to 45 days is old, everything else is outdated. Combined with a variation of my NecroWatch scan map, it can create a "Scan age map", see here for an example with recent data. Would that be of use for the NecroWatch pages? -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 13:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- Admittedly, I'd find it useful, although not so much for my way of handling things. I've been tending to make swings into other NT buildings to grab scans, then try and grab as many as my route will allow before returning to relatively familiar surroundings. Keep it up, though, since it will help me remember which ones in my area I haven't managed to grab lately. --BLusk 13:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's definitely a good idea that I'm sure will be useful, but the main hurdle here is that in your example you're using the Suburb Danger Map template as your base and unfortunately it covers each suburb with only a single colour-code. The problem with that is if you have NTs in the same suburb with different scan ages then you would have trouble determining which colour to assign it. The better option here would be to adapt the NT Status Map for your project, as it allocates the colour-code to the status of each NT building, not the whole suburb. I hope that helps. --Mobius 12:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- So far the script is assigning colors on average scan age of the whole suburb (using 90 days age for missing scans), but I'll take a look at the NT Status Map, looks interesting.-- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 12:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh yes yes YES! This is brilliant! This is perfect! Thank you! I've a few questions: how often does this script update? Is it automated? How long will it last? Where is it hosted? VI 04:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- So far it does not update automatically, my "testing" version updates User:Alka_Selzer/Necrowatch#Scan_Age_Map daily at the moment. It runs on my local Linux server, but could be installed on any machine running perl with the CMS::MediaWiki extension. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 10:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- I love it! My only suggestion would be to include a fourth color, orange. Make green 7 days (truthfully, scans are outdated even after just a few days), yellow for 21 days, orange for 45, red for 46+. Great work! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:35, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- As Mobius said, I'll first take a look at a NT Status Map like variation, but more colors never hurt :) -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 10:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh yes yes YES! This is brilliant! This is perfect! Thank you! I've a few questions: how often does this script update? Is it automated? How long will it last? Where is it hosted? VI 04:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- So far the script is assigning colors on average scan age of the whole suburb (using 90 days age for missing scans), but I'll take a look at the NT Status Map, looks interesting.-- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 12:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's definitely a good idea that I'm sure will be useful, but the main hurdle here is that in your example you're using the Suburb Danger Map template as your base and unfortunately it covers each suburb with only a single colour-code. The problem with that is if you have NTs in the same suburb with different scan ages then you would have trouble determining which colour to assign it. The better option here would be to adapt the NT Status Map for your project, as it allocates the colour-code to the status of each NT building, not the whole suburb. I hope that helps. --Mobius 12:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- New Scan Map. This is based on the NT Status Map, but the suburbs are colored by combined average scan age, the buildings last scan on mouseover. I also used Extropymine's time suggestion - up to 7 days = Green, up to 21 days yellow, up to 45 days orange, else red. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 13:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Notice: The 2nd map on the page is auto-updated every 3 hours by script (i.e. User:Alka_Selzer/Sandbox1#Test:_Scan_Age_Map_update). It only updates if there is a change, so technically it may not update every time. But with >80 NT Buildings and players from all timezones, probably one scan will age by 1 day every 3 hours so it should update every 3 hours. This update will work until my local server dies or my account on the wiki is gone. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff ] 23:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Report NecroNet Scans
Do you have a NecroNet scan you're dying to share with NecroWatch? Too lazy/evil to update the it yourself? We understand, and in some cases, our sub-goal is to discourage people from thinking this job is easy so all our NecroTechnicians are treated almost like gods for performing actions that, without all the smoke and mirrors, are fairly straightforward. But rather than lose precious scan information we're stepping up to do the job for you. Just post a link to the iWitness report or image/screenshot with the scan. Be sure to date it, or else your timestamp will be considered the date/time the scan was taken. In the case of iWitness reports we use the provided MT (Malton Time). You will of course be given credit for any and all scans you post here. How awesome is that? No, don't think about it! Just believe us. Excellent.
Dr. Asoka Wu's Scans
- 6/26/08 Pursey Building, Lockettside (27, 84) Pursey Building
- 6/26/08 Brockliss Building, Spicer Hills (25, 90) Brockliss Building
- 6/24/08 Button Building, Old Arkham (19, 97) Button Building
- 6/23/08 Mitchener Building, New Arkham (1,95) Mitchener Building
- 6/17/08 Wreford Building, New Arkham (5, 98) Wreford Building
- 6/15/08 Harford Building, New Arkham (8,99). Harford Building
- 6/13/08 Denty Building, New Arkham (7, 99). Denty Building
Iscariot's Scans
If you are searching for Iscariot's older NecroNet reports, you can find them here.
- The Henley Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-23-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_8-88_Henley_8c8-dae-a14.html
- -- Iscariot 22:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Uploaded. --Mobius187 13:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- The Blackmore Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/04-30-08_1800hrs_PUBLIC/IN_55-47_Blackmore_1e6-e63-7b9.html
- -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:19, 30 April 2008 (BST)
N00bert Scans
If you are searching for N00bert's older NecroNet reports, you can find them here.
In all seriousness!! SilwoodBuildingNT in Wray Heights.--N00bert F 21:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- FramBuildingNT Wray Heights
- DarnellBuildingNT Wray Heights
- TelferBuildingNT Ketchelbank
Good night.. --N00bert F 05:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Updated all scans. Keep up the good work. :) --Mobius187 13:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- InmanBuildingNT Pescodside --N00bert F 04:59, 3 April 2008 (BST)
GracewoodBuildingNT Paynerton--N00bert foxhound 00:06, 7 April 2008 (BST)
You boys still doing this NW thing? If so; MorrishBuildingNT Pitneybank --N00bert foxhound 16:08, 7 April 2008 (BST)
- CannerBuildingNT Gibsonton
- DucatBuildingNT Gibsonton
- HallBuildingNT Santlerville
- TroodBuildingNT Dulston
There's my contribution. :) --N00bert foxhound 21:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
theshinysword's scans
If you are searching for theshinysword's older NecroNet reports, you can find them here.
Sexualharrison's Scans
If you are searching for Sexualharrison's older NecroNet reports, you can find them here.
Nisbet building----Sexualharrison 19:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
whippy building----Sexualharrison 12:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Done and done. But not exactly in that order. --Mobius 03:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
ZS Revitech Scans
If you are looking for ZS Revitech's older NecroNet scan reports, you can find them here.
Ghita's Scans
If you are searching for Ghita's older NecroNet reports, you can find them here.
Mr NoName Scans
If you are looking for Mr NoName's older NecroNet scan reports, you can find them here.
Lufio's Scans
If you are looking for Lufio's older NecroNet scan reports, you can find them here.
February 23, 2008 - After today, I'm going back to uploading my own stuff. This will be the last Iwitness links I'll be putting up here for a while. Heh, I can't believe those zombie guards in the McCullock Building are just now finally getting around to damaging the Portable Generator I set up days ago.
- Miltown - successful NecroNet scan at Fliney NT and at McCullock NT
Anyways, with Miltown done, Fryerbank is now the last suburb on my list. Once I have those 3 NT Buildings, I will have taken a scan from all the NT Buildings in the SE sector of Malton. That SE ribbon will be mine! --The Masked Lurker 00:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Many zombies lack the same work ethic common to members of NecroWatch. They're all like, "I'll destroy that generator... later... after my lunch break!". Unionization destroyed many a zombie's will to destroy things now. It's sad really. Oh, and I uploaded those scans and good luck with the SE Master Recon ribbon. --Mobius187 13:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Wan Yao's scans
A scan from the The Copeland Building in West Grayside. Too lazy to crop a photo tonight :) --WanYao 06:36, 6 April 2008 (BST)
Moar skanz I'm too lazy to crop ;) The Delay Building in Nixbank. And the Selway Building in Ruddlebank. --WanYao 23:22, 9 April 2008 (BST)
Nitro378's scans
Here you go. Fliney Building. For some reason it took like 3 days for someone to put up a genny. [1] --Nitro378 T JNL 11:47, 22 June 2008 (BST)
[2] Here's A report from The Hosken building. It came out a little weird with the UD toolbar on.... --Nitro378 T JNL 16:36, 26 June 2008 (BST)
SPC MadDog's Scans
Millen Hills: 1.) http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-09_1500hrs_PUBLIC/IN_54-19_Millen_Hills_1_0af-650-373.html
2.) http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-09_1500hrs_PUBLIC/IN_55-17_Millen_Hills_2_cab-23b-35c.html
3.) http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-09_1500hrs_PUBLIC/IN_55-13_Millen_Hills_3_7f5-5ec-933.html
4.) http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-09_1600hrs_PUBLIC/IN_59-10_Millen_Hills_4_e2f-0fc-98b.html
- Ack! I've seen this happen before. You're using FireFox, am I correct? The last time this occurred a FireFox tool was conflicting with the browser. I believe Kikashie might have a solution, or at least I always assume that. You see it's almost like I'm Felix and Kikashie is my magic bag... of solutions. --Mobius 18:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Well thats not good.
5.) http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-09_1700hrs_PUBLIC/IN_56-15_Millen_Hills_5_aaa-ed0-5fc.html
I also updated the Building Status, Necrowatch on their individual pages. Check if you like. What do we need to do to fix it? --ChuckWade87 19:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking, I could post the images like I do with the Necronet Reports on the NT facility pages, What Do you think? I'm pretty sure someone else has done the same. --ChuckWade87 19:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually you don't need to worry about posting the reports here, if you are already updating the scans for the individual NT buildings. This was more for users who wanted to report NT scans, but didn't have the time to post the scan image themselves. I would do it for them. Although these days I'm happier to work with users who know how to do that as it saves me a lot of time. --Mobius 21:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- *salutes* ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)