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JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz

Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- SomethingSomething.gif 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Sister Mary

moved from main page

Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.
Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).
Southpark tearlick.gif--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.

Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. Aichon 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).

Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.----RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User: Revenant

Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

User:The Goth Store Owner

*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --KCLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

So quiet

* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. Aichon 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. -- Spiderzed 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Foiled again by the cabal. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --hagnat 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


November 2010

User:Hermann von Teutoburg & User:Hermann von Teutoburg2

Similar political alignment is not proof that they're the same person. --VVV RPMBG 03:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The staunch refusal to give up proxy IP addresses is a bit of a giveaway, however, as was the fact that they invented new reasons to not give it up when their old ones were torn down, their similar m.o. to Corn in terms of what they did in-game and on the wiki, the similar way they argued with the sysops, the blatant username reference to another known vandal alt of Corn's, etc.. Also, Ross didn't jump the gun, as your edit comment suggests. Mis, myself, Ross, and Yonn were all in agreement on the outcome, so the case was closed. Aichon 04:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Saying a neo nazi uses rhetoric as an MO, and a username of an old nazi as evidence towards saying he's another nazi is akin to saying one canadian user is the same as a permabanned canadian cause he says "ey" at the end of the odd sentence. Nazis use rhetoric, we get it, nazis use the names of old historical figures, we get it. when me and the BBK all made nazi accounts we had them all, Georing, Hitler, Speer even lols like Bismarck. Even we did it and we were taking the piss. It isn't new, and it definitely doesn't prove anything. -- LEMON #1 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
As for arguing with the sysops, this guy actually engaged with us and communicated with us. There was no communication with us and Cornholioo. Corn didn't listen to what we said and just spouted anti jewish horseshit, this guy seems completely different, which isn't to say he isn't corn (if he turns out to be I'll happily admit I was wrong) but this is a dumb thing to do when it's so far against policy it isn't funny, and is against someone who uses proxys at will (i support fighting the hard fight against proxy abusers when it's just but it isn't really so much here). -- LEMON #1 07:19, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Misanthropy

Nail2.jpg
Summary of the whole A/VB and preceeding A/A case, in case you can't be bothered to read it. -- Spiderzed 22:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand the irony, but don't make it excessively large. Fixed. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 13:23, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
The size was part of the summary. Although seeing it resized probably adds to it. -- Spiderzed 17:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Lol. Yeah, I understand like I said, but it was annoying to see it fill up the screen.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 17:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Btw, which movie is that screen from? It's disturbing. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 17:54, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
It's the Engineer beast from Hellraiser. -- Spiderzed 18:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I catched a nasty cold and my head is spinning so I'll keep it brief. This entire thing is stupid, mainly because of the trivial nature of the edit in question, which is why I wouldn't have bothered myself with a vandal case. On the other hand, it's clear the arbitration case hasn't really resolved anything, with other users (including myself) not being happy with the barebones ruling, that isn't even a real ruling. Handling this now through A/VB is quicker. For the record, this isn't vandalism in case of Misanthropy acting in bad-faith, in fact any escalation would be over the top. It's just that this image spam shouldn't be encouraged. Also Ross was right, probably about me too.

Ross said:
Your all massive tards

--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

You aren't the messiah, please use the talk page for your opinions from now on. -- LEMON #1 23:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
And if you want to quote me, please do it accurately, and with correct spelling. You massive tard.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I knowz. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 14:45, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

You, Yon and Thad? Since forever, in case you haven't paid any attention. And it's seriously not without grounds. How is an A/A and a VB case over something entirely fucking trivial not unjustly excessive or entirely uncalled for? And you're wrong simply because this just plain is not a fucking vandal affair, nor is it even justifiable to edit my comments on any page without the kind of due reason you're entirely lacking. Image breaks no fucking rules whatsoever, but you've seen fit to twice bring up drama over it for no fucking reason. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 01:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Not quite forever. There have been better times. Too be perfectly honest, no, I'm not a fan of your more recent works however. How you handled yourself with Umbrella was just really, really dumb. You got a misconduct escalation out of it, and your joke group you wanted so badly to be taken serious was beyond reality as well. This wasn't just my opinion, or Yonn's. Ever since then, things have been bad. I don't like this hostile situation anymore then you do. As for this case, it's not like I want to see you hang, more like this is yet another over-dramatized trivial dispute which your partly responsible for(as am I, unfortunently). But maybe I'm more biased against you then I realize. I don't know, but if anything, I would like to burry the hatchet. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 11:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
nah man, hating the occasional idiotic action one guy does equals hating the guy altogether, and therefore i hate all actions by said guy. haven't you learned anything? you smelly cunt? see you and a lot of people disagree with what i'm saying so you're WRONG and therefore a smelly cunt, you cunt -- LEMON #1 15:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Also, I just checked the links you supplied. very interesting, though I'm sure Misanthropy will disregard it on any basis because it breaks his theatrical dramatisation of being the victim of said user vendettas. -- LEMON #1 16:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I get the point you're making, and you're right, disagreements (as strongly these disagreements were though) shouldn't automatically lead to over the top feud's between users, but it seems this is the case judging how everything is taken so personally. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Mis and Yon have been feuding since Banana Tactics' second deletion attempt. Their mutual distrust has been growing more obvious and more debilitating since then, and unless they can learn to play nice, this can only end in the unnecessary death of multiple editors. You've been included because you're friendly towards Yon, much as Rev and Goribus are considered to be in the Misanthropic Party. DDR has always struck me as neutral, but now that he's joined the Koponen Party, not only has the political balance been tipped, but now the drama is running rampant without Yon's relative levelheadedness holding back the harsh words. Backed into a corner, Mis has resorted to a mindless rage similar to that of DDR. Yon, fearing for both the wiki and his reputation, is distancing himself from the case, hoping not to fan the flame war. If either DDR of Mis could calm down long enough to just let this die, even if it means them losing the case (which wouldn't really matter, since the only thing at stake is an escalation) then we might be able to minimize how many people flee our little cesspool of drama. --VVV RPMBG 05:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
That's a really stupid and wrong way to portray things. You're automatically assuming that agreeing with (or liking) Y means "haeting" M and vice versa. That's incredibly shallow. You voted for Misanthropy in the bureaucratic election. Whoops, guess you really don't like Yonnua /sarcasm. Oh, DDR disagreeing with Misanthropy, yes that must mean DDR really likes to kiss Yonn's ass. :/ --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 11:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

"If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment." Im looking at you here thad. You know the rules. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I do know, and my own opinion should be on the talk page but my reply to Aichon was suited me thinks, and was reply to an already existing conversation between him, me and DDR. Ugh I hate that box, and I hate discussing it even more especially since there is a gray area here. Also, if you're gonna call me out on it, it makes sense to use the talk page, or my own talk page. Just sayin'--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:46, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Not when I want to use the opportunity to remind all in the community it isn't. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Alright. Sorry.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 17:51, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucracy-bites.jpg
I think this image does a much better job of summing up the situation. And yes you are all tards. ~Vsig.png 17:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I particularly liked your immediate categorising of this image. The system works. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I nearly used the correct American spelling out of irony. ~Vsig.png 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Irony def Something a bit like iron. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Perers

How odd. -- LEMON #1 16:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps he used UHUB? -- LEMON #1 16:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Deathwire isn't on UHUB. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)