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2018

Poke poke

Hey Boxy, you've hit the four-month inactivity mark, so I'm poking you to say hi and halt the A/DM procedure. Cheers! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 00:10, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

*poke poke* —Aich on— 18:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, as it's been solidly over a week, we've had to demote you from sysop. Come on back anytime! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

He passed by quietly, and in his sleep. Farewell Mr. Box A ZOMBIE ANT 07:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh noes! -- boxy 14:43, 29 May 2018 (BST)

I don't know what to do with this information. Boxy for President! —Aich on— 15:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

the prodigal son returns. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

2017

March

hey

What's up you big homo! How's things --CyberRead240 12:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

2016

January 2016

Policy Withdrawal?

Hey Boxy, your policy proposal hasn't been discussed in a couple months. Unless you want to move it to voting I'm going to declare it withdrawn in a few days. Thanks! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 02:28, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Sure. I suggest you do something with the current sig policy (even if it's just fucking it right off, and just going by precedent/common sense), because it's worse than useless -- boxy 13:52, 9 January 2016 (BST)

That's not really a bad plan, seeing as how during an extreme circumstance a good sysop would shut it down regardless of the policy (as you did Box, well done). However, barring that, it's not a bad outline to fall back on in non-extreme cases. A ZOMBIE ANT 05:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

The very least that needs to happen, is that this ridiculous section needs to go. It basically says that anything not specifically listed, is fine, and it's the first thing that the smart arse, edge-lords quote, when drama-whoring their fucked up signatures. And it's completely wrong. Fucked if I know who put it in there, but they need punching in the reproductive organs, whoever it was -- boxy 12:08, 11 January 2016 (BST)

Absolutely agree. Well said. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

2015

October 2015

¿Qué?

Was my vote invalid?

While on the topic, is multi-voting no longer a problem?

Yrs,

Revenant 13:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

You had the same bullshit text covering over other people's votes, so yeah, you fuck with the formatting of a page, you lose the right to vote, and get a vandal banning case against you. And yeah, he can't vote for both. They'll be struck -- boxy 13:26, 9 October 2015 (BST)

Bugger. Looked fine when I tested it.

“Lose the right to vote”? Got a rule, policy, or guideline covering that, do ya? Revenant 13:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

You've already used that bullshit, "get out of jail free" card, on your signature. You know full well that it fucks up the formatting for others, so it's vandalism, which gets reverted on sight -- boxy 13:38, 9 October 2015 (BST)

That was orders of magnitude out from either of the sigs, but meh, I suppose you’re right: some browsers really don’t seem to handle it at all well and it’s apparently unpredictable. ⇜ɼ̲̪͕ﻉ̣͉̼̼̬͍͇͝۷̘ﻉ͚̗̰͎̹̰ก͔̠̲̱ค̛̗̱̖̭̙̝ก̞̝̣̩Շ͉͉̼͖͉̦ 13:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

You love pushing the limit for not other reason than to see what you can get away with. Even with your current sig. And the wiki is overly tolerant of it, from you. You know that you can test that shit in a sandbox somewhere. So next time, do it -- boxy 14:01, 9 October 2015 (BST)

Just out of curiosity, wasn’t editing people’s signatures on their posts considered vandalism? Revenant 14:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Weren't you a sysop at one stage? You should already know the answer to that question -- boxy 14:17, 9 October 2015 (BST)

^{(That would be why I provided the link.) ^{ʇuɐuǝʌǝɹ} 14:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)}

Thanks for coming -- boxy 13:58, 9 January 2016 (BST)

June 2015

Just Asking For Help

Hi there, I can't seem to upload images to the wiki, I'm getting the message : Upload warning, Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/c/cf". Is there any chance you could help with this please? Also, if you're not sure what's happening and nothing can be done, would it be ok if you uploaded the image for me please? It's just for a zombie group, and is here : http://i.imgur.com/KSQTCzg.jpg

Thanks loads if you can help anyway! -- Xyu888 10:44, 6 June 2015 (BST)

Yeah, unfortunately, after the last update, it became impossible to upload or delete images. It's been brought up before. Perhaps look for an image already uploaded, that may suit your needs? -- boxy 09:58, 6 June 2015 (BST)

Ah ok, will try to do that instead then, and thanks for the help. -- Xyu888 11:10, 6 June 2015 (BST)

Photos

You mind easing up on the photos? They're filling up the recent changes page. --Jerran1 (talk) 19:38, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Filling up RC with actual edits is how things are supposed to work. ;) Filling up RC with unnecessary edits that could have been handled via previewing is a problem since it makes finding the actual edits more difficult. —Aich on— 20:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

True, but he could've staggered them or something, instead of filling up the whole RC in less than an hour. --Jerran1 (talk) 21:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Ehh, better to get it over quickly, that way it leaves RC quickly. Plus, better to get it over when you're in the mood to do it, since otherwise it may not get done at all, ya know? —Aich on— 21:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Wow, what a sweet world we live in where 200 or so edits in a day is filling up RC etc. The whole place still feels super quiet to me, even with Boxy's edits.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

We should get the Rooster back - and disable the bot group for his toys this time. Then the hapless newbs would learn what an active RC really looks like :P -- Spiderzed ▋ 09:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I suggest you increase the number of edits shown on your recent changes page (mine is at 250, and shows plenty of edits below my spam) or you could hide minor edits -- boxy 21:53, 4 June 2015 (BST)

Lol A ZOMBIE ANT 00:34, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

May 2015

Cat Business

In two days from now a cat decision is abrewing.
The Akule bid has hardly useful opinions on it. Extending it might be the best choice.
As for Hagnat, lolno? -- Spiderzed ▋ 16:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

It surprises me it didn't got archived yet for not being a serious bid--hagnat 16:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm inclined to consider both of them jokes, given that they were originally "nominated" with vandalism -- boxy 04:31, 14 May 2015 (BST)

Aw c'mon, i am right here. There is no need to 'consider them jokes', when i just outright said they were --hagnat 13:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

So let's cycle both as unsuccessful? I think I can agree with that. -- Spiderzed ▋ 14:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

*cahem* --hagnat 16:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

March 2015

Ross

Looks like Ross is still Boss? -- Spiderzed ▋ 19:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Bump for the bump god. Else I will just proceed on the weekend. -- Spiderzed ▋ 19:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

No hurry. --In Memoriam 21:57, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure -- boxy 04:09, 28 March 2015 (BST)

February 2015

Gnome

Discounting my own (positive) vote as a crat for a minute, I have a hunch that the community wants to retain AHLG. Any objections? -- Spiderzed ▋ 21:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. Gnome does good works -- boxy 08:01, 26 February 2015 (BST)

January 2015

Bummer

I was so sure at the time that ruins added smudged graffiti :/ A ZOMBIE ANT 03:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, was that you? Came across it by chance, and took a while for me to get the opportunity to confirm/disprove it :) -- boxy 12:07, 28 January 2015 (BST)

2014

Log in

Hello there! I just want to inform you that for the past few months new members cannot sign into this wiki. This is the message that keeps coming up. "Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information." I was hoping that you or any of the admins of this wiki page can look into this and solve the problem. It would help this wiki come back to once how it was. Thank you! --LuE Colo 20:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

SZ

A huge gap, I must say. I'm happy with SZ to retain his buttons, unless something mental happens in the next few days. --Ross less ne s s 17:46, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

The wiki obviously wouldn't function without him -- boxy 00:50, 28 August 2014 (BST)

garden decorations

Gnome will up in a few days. The bid looks unanimous. Unless he gets revealed to have been Cornholioo all the time I think we can hand him the buttons back on Thursday. -- Spiderzed ▋ 16:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

*bump*Wednesday. Bid will run out tomorrow. -- Spiderzed ▋ 23:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good to me :) -- boxy 05:54, 12 June 2014 (BST)

Bob Moncrief

My fellow crat, it seems like there is a notable notion to keep Bob, but also likely that he will be auto-demoted shortly after the start of the world cup. Thoughts? -- Spiderzed ▋ 19:58, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to demote him before the automatic, inactivity clause kicks in (shortly). He's a good psysop, when he's around -- boxy 10:21, 10 May 2014 (BST)

I'm not comfortable with re-evaluating anyone who doesn't show up at his RE, and hasn't given any response for months. I'd rather cycle it as unsucessful and let him re-apply when - or if - he shows up again on the wiki. -- Spiderzed ▋ 20:54, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

OK. I'll demote him then -- boxy 07:15, 19 May 2014 (BST)

Question answered

Yea... on my talk page... after 5 years. --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 05:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

2013

Broken Redirect

Hey there Boxy, this page showed up on the Broken Redirects-list while I was patrolling: User:Boxy/Sandbox/UHUB. Please consider putting it up for deletion and help keep the wiki clean ;) PB&J 12:59, 19 June 2013 (BST)

I just deleted it as a broken redirect due to a page move, which doesn't need documenting (as it's a scheduled deletion). Thanks for pointing that out -- boxy 15:13, 21 June 2013 (BST)

Great Fire banner

Hey Boxy, I was wondering why you removed the ALiM banner from Great Fire of 1912? There was actually a discussion about the banner's presence when the article was up for FAs, and a discussion on Nallan's talk page concluded that the banner should stay. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:40, 2 June 2013 (BST)

They don't own the page, any more than Hagnat owns the BIC, which he created. They can arby me if they still care -- boxy 22:15, 2 June 2013 (BST)

Cool. Just wanted to make sure you acted with awareness of the history of the issue. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:03, 3 June 2013 (BST)

He totally hates that banner. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 21:58, 3 June 2013 (BST)

It's better than it used to be, but still doesn't belong on backstory pages -- boxy 03:21, 4 June 2013 (BST)

Thanks

Thanks for categorizing. It's one of those things I'm not very good at and usually forget to do. Any chance you're planning on attending the Big Bash? We could always use another zombie in the mix. ;) —Aich on— 03:07, 2 June 2013 (BST)

I actually did wander on over to buttonville, after reading the BB4 page. Will see how it goes -- boxy 03:41, 2 June 2013 (BST)

Regarding this

I bet it's an extension I installed in Chrome the other day. It looks like all of the mangled parts were areas that included numbers of some sort, and the extension may have tried to replace them as part of what it does. Thanks for catching that. I wasn't aware of the fact that it could even do something like that. —Aich on— 04:54, 21 May 2013 (BST)

Sorry

Sorry, I forgot. I will try to sign my comments in the future.Lpha 23:58, 19 April 2013 (BST)

Sorry to interrupt...

Could you please look at Sexualharrison's vote as well? In my opinion, "Kill because fuck you" is just as inane as "because, kittens". Thank you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lpha (talk • contribs) 21:55, 10 April 2013.

Boxy struck Ross' vote because it was unjustified. "Because, kittens" doesn't mean anything and was intentionally random. SH's vote is far from random or meaningless, and was clearly made in response to a discussion you started on his talk page. Besides which, it's common courtesy to take a personal dispute up with that person directly before trying to involve figures of authority. Have you considered simply talking to Harrison yourself? He clearly saw your initial request as an unnecessary one that made no sense, so he took offense. Perhaps if you could explain why you requested that in the first place, he may be more amenable. Or you may want to take the high ground and simply apologize for any offense that may have been taken, even though it was not your intent to have offended him. —Aich on— 23:21, 10 April 2013 (BST)

this is going to be good.--User:Sexualharrison23:43, 10 April 2013

Well, I already had a look at it, when you brought it up on Aichon's talk page, and posted this;

boxy said:

If you'll notice, he did give a justification in his original vote, to wit: "Meh", which translates to "this is a bland and uninspiring suggestion, and I could either vote keep or kill, so don't give me any shit about my vote, or it may change".
Or were those just the voices in my head?

-- boxy 10:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)

Surely you could have worked out what his justification was for that responce. You read his original vote, you chose to give him shit about it, even after being told not to worry about such trivialities -- boxy 03:48, 11 April 2013 (BST)

	Wah!
	Save me sysops!!!!111one

--User:Sexualharrison22:10, 11 April 2013

I still have more keep votes than kill votes, you know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lpha (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Are you aware that you need a 2/3 majority to have your suggestion marked as Peer Reviewed? And that you're only one vote away from losing that? Don't count your chickens before they hatch. —Aich on— 01:26, 13 April 2013 (BST)

I think it's cute that you think I care -- boxy 03:27, 13 April 2013 (BST)

I know right. guess I'll continue to grief you in-game than and you asked for it too.--User:Sexualharrison07:01, 13 April 2013

Missed Talk Pages

One of your recent mass deletion requests couldn't be carried out: The Shadows of Hope still have a group page, so their talk page isn't a scheduled deletion. -- Spiderzed █ 15:31, 7 April 2013 (BST)

Good thing I didn't do them myself, then

-- boxy 22:55, 7 April 2013 (BST)

Clearly this is a conspiracy, if only Funt hadn't run off in fear of the oligarchy. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 05:31, 8 April 2013 (BST)

I miss the old Mod Conspiracy days. When are you going to become a crat, so you can boot me out and give me a reason to revive the wild paranoia that lurks just beneath the surface?

-- boxy 10:43, 8 April 2013 (BST)

What happened to that anyway? Even I voted for Karek, and my vote counts as three! A ZOMBIE ANT 15:14, 8 April 2013 (BST)

The same thing that always does, the shadow proclamation. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 16:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)

You can have my seat. I don't want it and won't seek it, come next election. —Aich on— 16:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)

I'm really indifferent to the whole process. I'm basically just here to kill time. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 17:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)

People, Karek, there to kill people. You'll never be a good crat without the murderous urge. A ZOMBIE ANT 22:18, 8 April 2013 (BST)

Very Old Character Looking to Play Again

Hello, my name is now Mikhail1979, but I used to be MikhailA, director of Lejnair Corp. and what not. It's been six years, but I suddenly have the itch to play again. Unfortuantely, I have since lost my passwords to my wiki account as well at the four characters I had in the game. I'm hoping you or some of the other sysops or even Kevan could help me out with this. I just would like to play again, for old times sake. If you can help, just let me know. I'll even provide necessary info if needed. Thanks!--Mikhail1979 22:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

2012

Damn it

That is all.--SA 09:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Loads of Crat Stuff

Anyway, at the end of the week there's going to be another 2 evaluations, and then you're up for crat. So try and be around ok? --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 16:30, 4 October 2012 (BST)

Yo, I'll make decisions on both A/RE's tomorrow. Unless you appear. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.--Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 16:41, 9 October 2012 (BST)

I'm easy, either way, with teh general. He's pretty well inactive, atm, but he tends to be that way, and then comes back, and helps out, without stirring shit up. Rev seems to be doing enough to keep his place -- boxy 14:03, 10 October 2012 (BST)

I'm with demote. Not even a squeak during the bid, even after talk page mentions. Revs fine though. I'll do some things tonight, once the week is officially up. Welcome back .--Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 15:04, 10 October 2012 (BST)

Karek A/RE

Discuss?--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 18:40, 26 September 2012 (BST)

DISCUSS??--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 18:59, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Yeah...I don't envy you guys right now. :-/ —Aich on— 19:49, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Surely thats normal. Also, Im nixing slr bid as he fails loads of criteria and stuff.--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 20:35, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Anyway, I'll give box until the first, or make a random decision on my own. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 20:46, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Right. You've got 3 hours, otherwise I'm ruling on my own.--I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 16:10, 1 October 2012 (BST)

It's funny cause normally I don't look at the bid page for a week and it goes pretty well. I respond to DDR this time and meh. Either way I'm not put out whatever the decision is and I'm pretty aware of the whys. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 04:07, 29 September 2012 (BST)

To paraphrase

To save time, in the upcoming Aichon promotion thing, I have no problem with his promotion. --Ross^WHO????ness 11:42, 22 August 2012 (BST)

Yes, agreed -- boxy 13:48, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Talking of which, there's a re-evaluation due in 6 hours. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 10:42, 1 September 2012 (BST)

This

User:Boxy/Sandbox Broken Redirects! --Ross^lessness 20:10, 22 June 2012 (BST)

... the fuck was I even doing there? lol. Cleared out -- boxy 09:44, 24 June 2012 (BST)

Fun

yer no fun!--User:Sexualharrison16:30, 14 June 2012

You should totally take me to arbies

-- boxy 22:31, 14 June 2012 (BST)

if only i had the time.--User:Sexualharrison23:45, 14 June 2012

Promotions

Just letting you know Karloth Vois's promotion bid has passed the two week discussion period and is due for bureaucrat review. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 12:03, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Um...Just so you know, Rev, as per policy, new opinions can continue to be added to the bid until the 'crats announce their decision. --Axe Hack 13:23, 22 May 2012 (BST)

NO. REALLY? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 14:04, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Theoreticallly, a bid can go on for an infinite amount of tine. Theoretically. --Axe Hack 14:52, 22 May 2012 (BST)

like my counting thread over on the NMC?--User:Sexualharrison15:34, 22 May 2012

Yeah even before that addition to the guidelines i remember one of Wan Yao's bid going for a month at least :/ D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:59, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Was that the one where he didn't officially accept for nearly 2 weeks, and the bids went from the time they were accepted (and had the required number of vouches)? -- boxy 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)

So, vois, my answer is "facial hair", and to pre empt future discussions, shortround shrugs sure. --Ross^lessness 17:15, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Shorty should do alright -- boxy 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)

Axe

Obvious re evaluation is obvious. --Ross^lessness 18:31, 9 May 2012 (BST)

Indeed -- boxy 09:02, 10 May 2012 (BST)

Much Love

<3 --Short round }.{ My Contributions 13:41, 7 May 2012 (BST)

Agreed. Your sheer awesomeness is unparalleled. -- † talk ? f.u. 14:00, 7 May 2012 (BST)

You're awesome

For all you do to make this wiki a success, I salute you. Keep doing what you do because you rock at it. --TheBardofOld 01:00, 15 April 2012 (BST)

I'm far to lazy and inactive to be described as awesome (any more

}. Just a grumpy old man, sitting on his porch, with his shotgun, occasionally shouting, "git orf mai lawn!" -- boxy 01:10, 15 April 2012 (BST)

But, if you're who you claim to be, then you must be Clint Eastwood and for that, you're awesome. Seriously, you are. Never doubt. --TheBardofOld 01:12, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Not Clint, maybe a co-star though

-- boxy 03:24, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Awwww XD --TheBardofOld 03:28, 15 April 2012 (BST)

Mis

I assume it's a no? --Ross^lessness 09:30, 8 April 2012 (BST)

? --Ross^lessness 08:58, 10 April 2012 (BST)

Hurry the fuck up. You are already 5 days late on demoting both Mis and Vapor, closing the VB case, and banning several spambots. Generaloberst 20:14, 10 April 2012 (BST)

You know what? Gimme another eight months of unused power just to piss this guy off.

23:44, 10 April 2012 (BST)

I agree with man, hell, the shitbrain almost makes me want to come back for the sole reason of driving him off the wiki. Not because it's right, but because I could. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:08, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Do you honestly mean that? I mean, you're one of the few sysops that I saw as not very biased. If you really ment that then I'm quite shocked. Generaloberst 01:22, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Vouch. ~

_{00:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)}

Vouchx2--User:Sexualharrison00:59, 11 April 2012

Oh! Me too! Vouch, Vouch, Vouch, Vouch. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 01:18, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Yes. Vouch. -- C h e e s e 13:31, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Box, I'll set a weeks deadline on this, or otherwise make my own decision. Grazi. --Ross^lessness 12:54, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Does that mean you will demote him tomorrow (when he's a week late), or in a week? Generaloberst 13:13, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Shakes head. --Ross^lessness 13:26, 11 April 2012 (BST)

Sorry about that. Yeah, sure, demote him... or keep him, just to piss off the nazi. Either way is good -- boxy 10:01, 12 April 2012 (BST)

LMFAO, and you still claim to be unbiased?? Generaloberst 12:00, 12 April 2012 (BST)

Did I make that claim? I've always maintained a healthy bias against people who just come here to be arseclowns, trolls or vandals -- boxy 12:52, 12 April 2012 (BST)

I feel for you

Listen, we gotta talk. You and I both know that I'm actually one of the finest warriors in Malton. Also, there are not many groups stronger than Nazi Zombies either. Perhaps only the RRF is stronger right now. During Operation Naaldloos we have defeated a group of about 250 survivors with less than 4 dozen of men. In the Blitz we're taking on 350 survivors with even less men, now that Fascist Italian has shown his true colors. I don't see how these things are "Nazi propaganda". I'm just stating fact. So leave my pages alone and do something useful. I'm taking warfare on Urban Dead to a whole new level. And that level is called Sitzkrieg. Just a small step for a man, but an enormous step, für das Vaterland. Generaloberst 16:40, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Lol. My army of level one members with no xp at all created one after another is the strongest group in Malton. --Ross^lessness 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

There we go again "yes but you are just a zerger". You don't even know my ingame name. Perhaps I'm not even wearing the tag. I can be everyone in Malton. Generaloberst 18:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry General, I never claimed you were zerging. I was merely commenting on the make up of the group you associate with. I believe we're talking about Zombie Nazis? I feel I have a right to call several of their members level one players with little or no Xp, created one after another over the course of only a few minutes. In fact I have. Here are four examples. You're getting a little obsessed that everyone thinks you're a zerger. --Ross^lessness 19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok so someone has multiple accounts within Nazi Zombies. How is that a problem? It was funny how at the time Corn and "Zyckde" both had multiple accounts within their group. Corn was then constantly called "zerger" and "PK-er" (both ingame as on the wiki), though what Zyckde did was considered ok. That is what propaganda is. Generaloberst 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

if you're noting propagandas affectiveness on the weak then why are you so goddamn shit at it, you spout more of it than you do vowels D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Learn English and learn to read. Not propaganda from my side. Generaloberst 14:07, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

you spend more time having tantrums about jews than you spend time breathing. If you actually legitimately believe that you don't use any sort of progaganda and that if one thinks you do he needs to learn english then you are literally the most retarded person who's ever been on this wiki. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

bitch got owned? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

When you create a number of pages like that, claiming to be glossary terms, but then proceed to fill the pages with group specific images and references to your own group and it's greatness, it becomes clear that they are nothing more than group propaganda/trolling. And they'll be moved -- boxy 21:48, 17 March 2012 (BST)

Yeah, and if other (non-Aryan) pages are made like Jihad tactics including fitting images then it's all ok suddenly. What you just said occurs on the wiki all the time. It really isn't anything specific for Nazi Zombies. Just stop being jealous that someone invented a tactic you wasn't able to come up with and go outside to find some friends. People wouldn't bully you all the time and you wouldnt be such a cunt. Generaloberst 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

if you legit think that jihad tactics is the same kettle of fish as the shitskrieg page where it matters then you are beyond help. i have no problem with either but just saying D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Lol. Why was corn called a zerger when he was zerging. That's an amazing question. --Ross^lessness 12:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Corn wasn't zerging, corn had multiple accounts in the same group. Generaloberst 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see how that could lead to us having differing opinions on this. Which alts are his? I could probably get some of them off the zerg list, if they aren't in the same burb. --Ross^lessness 16:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Damn, I was looking for this quote for ages. Completely pointless now. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 20:41, 28 September 2012 (BST)

How does the page that you referenced deal with my criticism of your pages being little more than group propaganda? I see no group links at all on that page. Perhaps you were expecting me to have other objections, and just argued against that strawman? -- boxy 13:41, 18 March 2012 (BST)

even more so he is using a joke tactic as his example. pure genuis --User:Sexualharrison13:49, 18 March 2012

Jihad tactics shows images of Jihadists. The pinata page has links to Maltonian Inquisition or however you spell the name. What you call 'propaganda' (I call it fact, or in case of images decoration) is all over the wiki. Generaloberst 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrat Elections

Hey, Boxy, I've started the Bureaucrat election for your seat. I hope you don't mind, but it was a day overdue, so I just did the leg work. Feel free to correct anything I've done wrong. :P --Short round }.{ My Contributions 11:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The system is designed so that anyone can start the process, so that's fine and dandy -- boxy 10:57, 16 March 2012 (BST)

Just so you know, Box-man, you can keep your seat. This is not some crazy plan to get into a close race with Boxy for the seat just to withdraw at the very last minute to ensure all my votes don't count, leaving absolutely no time for anyone who voted for me to change their vote, thus ensuring Boxy pretty much wins by default. Nope, definitely not some crazy plan like that. I'm just not that interested right now, but it is nice to see who is willing to trust me with such a role. --Axe Hack 11:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Remember me?

Because I remember you and will be very sad if you've forgotten me. --Mika los 209 02:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

yer sliping

(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 03:54 . . (+93) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Slambuts: ) YOINK!--User:Sexualharrison12:08, 28 February 2012 (bst)

Just because I didn't change the edit summary, doesn't mean I didn't yoink it, but good, regardless

. Getting bored yet, tilting at windmills? -- boxy 12:19, 28 February 2012 (BST)

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i've been playing this game for over 5 years. you tell me. also Don Quixote can kiss my arse!--User:Sexualharrison12:48, 28 February 2012 (bst)

-- boxy 19:35, 28 February 2012 (BST)

--User:Sexualharrison19:45, 28 February 2012 (bst)

(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 04:40 . . (+91) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Scamboxs: ) --User:Sexualharrison12:19, 29 February 2012 (bst)

Congrats, after 3 months of trying, you finally got one through! Time to stop, and be bask in the greatness of your glorious victory?

-- boxy 00:30, 1 March 2012 (BST)

i will only accept unconditional surrender--User:Sexualharrison04:02, 1 March 2012 (bst)

and the torch is Passed--User:Sexualharrison13:02, 6 March 2012

Get shorty!

-- boxy 01:56, 7 March 2012 (BST)

you are a heartless bastard and I hope you choke on that beer. another great year!--User:Sexualharrison11:44, 7 December 2013

Hope you had a happy Hanukkah, or whatever other imaginary bullshit you happen believe in. Cheers

-- boxy 11:40, 8 December 2013 (BST)

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+==2018==
-===Personal details===
-and whose personal details have I posted on this wiki? --[[User:Roorgh|Roorgh]] 22:59, 28 April 2009 (BST)
-===[[UDWiki:Administration/Demotions#Karek]]===
+===Poke poke===
-Any chance you could archive it? (I've seen that only 'crats have ever edited the archive.) {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:08, 25 April 2009 (BST)
+Hey Boxy, you've hit the four-month inactivity mark, so I'm poking you to say hi and halt the [[A/DM]] procedure. Cheers! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:10, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
-:Done, but I'm sure no-one would mind if you'd have done it after so long <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:48 25 April 2009 (BST)</small>
-===A/SD===
+<nowiki>*</nowiki>poke poke* {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
-Pardon my idiocy on the Speedy Deletions page on the Scheduled Deletions. Until that point they were something I didn't totally understand, hence the oversized lists etc. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:56, 2 April 2009 (BST)
-===DDR's Bid===
+Unfortunately, as it's been solidly over a week, we've had to demote you from sysop. Come on back anytime! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
-Thoughts? I personally think that it's a bit too soon for this "new DDR" to be promoted. If he can show that he's reformed for good, maybe, but if he goes right back to being an immature arsehead then we'd be pretty stuck to boot him out, eh?--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 21:36, 31 March 2009 (BST)
-::I, of course, agree <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:36 2 April 2009 (BST)</small>
-:Demotion's easier to obtain than you think. Just get 50% of the active sysops to agree and run the case through when DDR's inactive and his mate who would usually defend him in his absence has been unreasonably banned for 48 hours.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:34, 1 April 2009 (BST)
-::you just lost the right to call anyone bitter ever again. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 07:42, 1 April 2009 (BST)
-::You shouldn't have been promoted in the first place. Let's learn from that mistake. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 11:08, 1 April 2009 (BST)
-===[[User:Boxy/Sandbox/Unused Images]]===
+He passed by quietly, and in his sleep. Farewell Mr. Box {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 07:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
-Would it be okay if I deleted the code using the three deleted images in that gallery? It is permanently keeping [[Special:Uncategorizedimages]] from being pretty. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 00:32, 31 March 2009 (BST)
-:Really? You think you can rid us of the "Ghost images"? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:39, 31 March 2009 (BST)
-::By god, I'm gonna try! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 03:39, 1 April 2009 (BST)
-===Nip===
+Oh noes! <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:43, 29 May 2018 (BST)</small>
-Hey Boxy. I've deleted the image. Sorry, didn't realize it would cause any offense. Thanks for letting me know. --[[User:Lady Clitoria|Lady Clitoria]] 13:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
+:I don't know what to do with this information. Boxy for President! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
+:the prodigal son returns. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
-PS - It wasn't porn!!! --[[User:Lady Clitoria|Lady Clitoria]] 20:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
+=2017=
-:Thanks for your co-operation <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:57 28 March 2009 (BST)</small>
+==March==
-::you mean input, right?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
+===hey===
-:It was a poorly made image with exposed nipples.  It needed to go for many reasons. The replacement looks better and covers the nipples. I think it is fine.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 14:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
+What's up you big homo! How's things --{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
-:The replacement was just as poorly made! But yeah, my nips are now hidden. --[[User:Lady Clitoria|Lady Clitoria]] 14:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
-::YOUR nipples eh? So that was you? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 06:10, 29 March 2009 (BST)
-===Category:Human Groups===
+=2016=
-I wanna get rid of this category and move all pages manually to [[:Category:Survivor Groups]]. If I list all the protected pages that need moving, would you be able to change them over for me? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
+==January 2016==
+===Policy Withdrawal?===
+Hey Boxy, your [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Signature Policy Revamp|policy proposal]] hasn't been discussed in a couple months. Unless you want to move it to voting I'm going to declare it withdrawn in a few days. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:28, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
+:Sure. I suggest you do something with the current sig policy (even if it's just fucking it right off, and just going by precedent/common sense), because it's worse than useless <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:52, 9 January 2016 (BST)</small>
+::That's not really a bad plan, seeing as how during an extreme circumstance a good sysop would shut it down regardless of the policy (as you did Box, well done). However, barring that, it's not a bad outline to fall back on in non-extreme cases. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
+:::The very least that needs to happen, is that [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Signature_Policy#What_would_be_allowed|this ridiculous section]] needs to go. It basically says that anything not specifically listed, is fine, and it's the first thing that the smart arse, edge-lords quote, when drama-whoring their fucked up signatures. And it's completely wrong. Fucked if I know who put it in there, but they need punching in the reproductive organs, whoever it was <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:08, 11 January 2016 (BST)</small>
+::::Absolutely agree. Well said. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 14:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
-===Nuerotoxic2213===
+=2015=
+==October 2015==
+===¿Qué?===
-My Name is Nuerotoxic2213, and i have noticed that someone has vandalized one of my images on the Ackland Mall Security Page. now someone has been going all over the air-waves in game slandering us , which is fine, but vandalism on the wiki is another story. since i am not "wiki" literate enough to figure this out, was wondering if you could help me. the image in question is here
+Was [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Signature_Text_Policy_Revision&curid=190015&diff=2262273&oldid=2262271 my vote invalid?]
-http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:Ams.jpg
-as far as i can tell it was Lady Clitoria who vandalized the image since before hand it was only Officer Otep back in 2006 who had touched the image. i tried to click on the (rev) thing next to the names and such but like i said, "wiki" illiterate. [[User:Nuerotoxic2213|Nuerotoxic2213]] 20:05, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
+While on the topic, is [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FPolicy_Discussion%2FSignature_Text_Policy_Revision&diff=2262269&oldid=2262206 multi-voting no longer a problem?]
-:Talked to the user about it. Should be good, don't think its VB worthy, it was just a newbie mistake. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
+Yrs,
-Nuerotoxic2213 --- those wiki revisions were from ZOLAM, (Lady C is my wiki account). You said it was okay to amend. This wasn't vandalism. Let me know which badge you want and I'll amend as you wish. Sorry about the confusion. I thought you would've realized when we put the new map up, as that was also by Lady C. ---- ZOLAM (--[[User:Lady Clitoria|Lady Clitoria]] 06:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC))
+[[User:Revenant|Revenant]] 13:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
+:You had the same bullshit text covering over other people's votes, so yeah, you fuck with the formatting of a page, you lose the right to vote, and get a vandal banning case against you. And yeah, he can't vote for both. They'll be struck <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:26, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+::Bugger. [https://www.dropbox.com/s/qphk2s3vi2ldlya/Screenshot%202015-10-10%2000.15.00.png?dl=0 Looked fine when I tested it.] {{psyduck}}<br/> “Lose the right to vote”? Got a rule, policy, or guideline covering that, do ya? [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] 13:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
+:::You've already used that bullshit, "get out of jail free" card, on your signature. You know full well that it fucks up the formatting for others, so it's vandalism, which gets reverted on sight <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:38, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+::::That was orders of magnitude out from either of the sigs, but meh, I suppose you’re right: some browsers really don’t seem to handle it at all well and it’s apparently unpredictable. ⇜[[User:Revenant|ɼ̲̪͕ﻉ̣͉̼̼̬͍͇͝۷̘ﻉ͚̗̰͎̹̰ก͔̠̲̱ค̛̗̱̖̭̙̝ก̞̝̣̩Շ͉͉̼͖͉̦]] 13:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
+:::::You love pushing the limit for not other reason than to see what you can get away with. Even with your current sig. And the wiki is overly tolerant of it, from you. You know that you can test that shit in a sandbox somewhere. So next time, do it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:01, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+Just out of curiosity, wasn’t editing people’s signatures on their posts [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2011_05#Lord_K considered vandalism?] [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] 14:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
+:Weren't you a sysop at one stage? You should already know the answer to that question <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:17, 9 October 2015 (BST)</small>
+::<small><sup>(That would be why I provided the link.) <sup>[[User:Revenant|ʇuɐuǝʌǝɹ]]</sup> 14:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)</sup></small>
+[[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2015#October|Thanks for coming]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:58, 9 January 2016 (BST)</small>
-===Recruitment Ad Page Maintenance===
+==June 2015==
-Sorry to bother you, but I think I ought to inform you that all youknowwhat may be about to break loose. I informed [[DK13|DK13]] on their talk page that I had hidden their ad as their image is too large. They (rather politely) responded tell me that their ad was supposed to have been approved as is. I can only presume that they were referring to the guideline changes that many of us were discussing on the Recruitment Ad talk page and which now seem to have stalled. I hid the ad again this morning and explained my reason for doing so on their talk page. It is under the Recruitment Ad heading at the bottom of the page. I was polite, as well, but I sense that this could quickly become an issue.--{{User:Lois_Millard/sig}} 12:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
+===Just Asking For Help===
-===Wanyao===
+Hi there, I can't seem to upload images to the wiki, I'm getting the message : Upload warning, Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/c/cf". Is there any chance you could help with this please? Also, if you're not sure what's happening and nothing can be done, would it be ok if you uploaded the image for me please? It's just for a zombie group, and is here : http://i.imgur.com/KSQTCzg.jpg
-So, since he ''finally'' managed to let us know of his acceptance on the bid, what do you think we should do? I think we don't need to let it go on for more than 2-3 more days before we make a decision, plenty of time for him to make replies to comments and stuffs. Sound good to you? Or should we consider his acceptance as the actual start of the Com. rev. part of the bid, and give him two more weeks?--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 01:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-:Tell me again why he should be granted an exception to the two week rule? The initial period ended before he posted. I smell yet another foregone conclusion... --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 07:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-::You know you're more like iscariot then you realise.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-:::hurf durf wikistalking --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 13:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-::::durf hurf watchlist?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 23:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-I think, given how long it went before he accepted, that (at the very least) a note should be left on the main page to say that he has now accepted the nomination and opinion is still being asked. I think he deserves the promotion but not until he shows evidence that he is around enough to make promotion worthwhile... a number of others seem to feel similarly and the early vouchers may reconsider in light of a 2+ week absence, letting the whole thing run an extra week seems like a fairer alternative than just starting over.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 13:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-:I thought he made it pretty clear that he won't be active enough to justify promoting him. Any further "clarification" or "explanation" would just be backpedalling. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 13:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-::Well he says he will not be as active as he was... thing is though, he seemed to be active about 8 hours a day and that can't be healthy (or good for continued employment prospects) If I could be sure that his reduced activity would still see him checking in most days '''and''' dedicating a good few hours a week being constructive he would have my vouch now, as is though i would like a month or so to judge before he puts himself forwards.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 21:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
-Alrighty then, sorry I've been absent, I was in a play, and we just finished performing, and then tearing everything down yesterday. I'll take a look again and let you know later tonight, alright with you? Again, sorry for my absence. Crunch time and all, I'm sure you understand right?--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 20:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
+Thanks loads if you can help anyway! -- [[User:Xyu888|Xyu888]] 10:44, 6 June 2015 (BST)
-:Also, does my talk page look that bad? It surprisingly relaxes my eyes and doesn't hurt them like this blinding white background all over the wiki. :/ --<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 20:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
+:Yeah, unfortunately, after the last update, it became impossible to upload or delete images. It's been brought up before. Perhaps look for an image already uploaded, that may suit your needs? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 09:58, 6 June 2015 (BST)</small>
-===WOOT's Bid===
+Ah ok, will try to do that instead then, and thanks for the help. -- [[User:Xyu888|Xyu888]] 11:10, 6 June 2015 (BST)
-I'm just going to go ahead and call it failed, as it's apparent the community doesn't think he needs the status. If you disagree, then I'm sorry for just going ahead, but I didn't think there'd be anyway you'd think he deserves it right now.--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 01:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
-:Good idea <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:53 5 March 2009 (BST)</small>
-::T_T --{{User:WOOT/sig}} 22:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
-===Links Sysop Bid===
+===Photos===
+You mind easing up on the photos? They're filling up the recent changes page.
+--[[User:Jerran1|Jerran1]] ([[User talk:Jerran1|talk]]) 19:38, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+:Filling up RC with actual edits is how things are supposed to work. ;) Filling up RC with unnecessary edits that could have been handled via previewing is a problem since it makes finding the actual edits more difficult. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+::True, but he could've staggered them or something, instead of filling up the whole RC in less than an hour. --[[User:Jerran1|Jerran1]] ([[User talk:Jerran1|talk]]) 21:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+:::Ehh, better to get it over quickly, that way it leaves RC quickly. Plus, better to get it over when you're in the mood to do it, since otherwise it may not get done at all, ya know? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+::::Wow, what a sweet world we live in where 200 or so edits in a day is filling up RC etc. The whole place still feels super quiet to me, even with Boxy's edits.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
+:::::We should get the Rooster back - and disable the bot group for his toys this time. Then the hapless newbs would learn what an active RC '''really''' looks like :P --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 09:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
+:I suggest you increase the number of edits shown on your recent changes page (mine is at 250, and shows plenty of edits below my spam) or you could hide minor edits <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 21:53, 4 June 2015 (BST)</small>
+:Lol {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 00:34, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
-Going to decide on it?--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 00:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
+==May 2015==
+===Cat Business===
+In two days from now a cat decision is abrewing.<br>The Akule bid has hardly useful opinions on it. Extending it might be the best choice.<br>As for Hagnat, lolno? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 16:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
+: It surprises me it didn't got archived yet for not being a serious bid--<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
+:I'm inclined to consider both of them jokes, given that they were originally "nominated" with vandalism <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 04:31, 14 May 2015 (BST)</small>
+:: Aw c'mon, i am right here. There is no need to 'consider them jokes', when i just outright said they were --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 13:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
+::So let's cycle both as unsuccessful? I think I can agree with that. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 14:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
-So, I suppose it's that time to talk about the candidate. What are your thoughts?--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 00:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
+{{*}}cahem* --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 16:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
-:You're new. You're supposed to flip a coin. What's this about "thoughts"? :P --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
-::Gotta make it look like we actually try and discuss the candidates, right?--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 01:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
-:I'm all for Link's promotion. The major reason for against votes seems to be that he isn't keen to get involved in A/VB drama. I have no problem with promoting people who want to steer clear of A/VB unless it's cut and dried. I expect any sysop to deal with obvious vandalism, but don't mind if they keep out of the borderline cases unless they have strong views, and a good understanding of policy/precedence relevant to the case. Basically, I can't fault Links dedication to the smooth running of the wiki. Pure good faith editor, who has shown a willingness to work in areas that would benefit from the added sysop abilities <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:48 2 March 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Alrighty then, I guess he's a sysops now, as that's about what I was thinking. I really do not want him jumping into VB if he can't make a decision, but I'm pretty sure he's smart enough to realize "LOL U SUCK" being spammed on a group page is vandalism. Would you like to do the honors, or shall I?--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 00:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
-===There's another one===
+==March 2015==
-[[User:DangerReportTimekeeperBot]]. Could you [[Special:Listusers/bot|demote it]] accordingly? Thanks. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
+===Ross===
-:No worries. Thanks for letting us know <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:49 2 March 2009 (BST)</small>
+Looks like Ross is still Boss? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
+:Bump for the bump god. Else I will just proceed on the weekend. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
+::No hurry. --[[User:Rosslessness/Little Chris|In Memoriam]]  21:57, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
+:Sure <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 04:09, 28 March 2015 (BST)</small>
-===Thanks===
+==February 2015==
-Oh ok, thanks, I didn't realize how this all worked.--[[User:OmarJXII|OmarJXII]] 03:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)Omar
+===Gnome===
+[[UDWiki:Administration/Re-Evaluations#A_Helpful_Little_Gnome|Discounting my own (positive) vote as a crat for a minute, I have a hunch that the community wants to retain AHLG.]] Any objections? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
-===[[A/D#Zombykiller_user_page]]===
+:Indeed. Gnome does good works <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 08:01, 26 February 2015 (BST)</small>
-Can I create a redirect then? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:35, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
-:From your link, it should be obvious that I think that it depends on the situation... so explain, and I will give an opinion <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 22:48 27 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Zombykiller/Bhuwannabe posted a deletion request. I contacted him by pm and he said that he'd like to keep his old user page as redirect to his new one. Question: Can I recreate the page as a redirect? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
-::: *pokes* --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 17:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
-===For some reason...===
-Anywho, you may or may not know I run [[NecroWatch|Project NecroWatch]]. I try to keep new guys from making mistakes, but every now and then it happens with scan images. One such mistake is the [[:Image:BuildingBuildingNecronet.png|BuildingBuildingNecronet.png]]. As it's no longer linked to anything I figured it would get cleaned up eventually, but just today another person posting a scan mistakenly linked to it instead of their own scan image. I blame my semi-confusing template, which becomes an issue when users are switching from the "no current scan" static GIF to their new PNG. Anywho, if possible, would you please delete this image for me in order to avoid any further misunderstandings of this nature? I was going to post this request under speedy deletions... and while it has been a while... but those requests don't seem to include reasons for an image deletion. Let me know. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius]] 17:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
-:It can go through speedydeletions as a crit 1 if you can show where it is duplicated elsewhere on the wiki. It's too new for me to delete on sight though. Best to go through [[A/SD]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:15 23 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-===[[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#User:Karek|Can we keep him Uncle Boxy?]]===
-Plz? =( -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 19:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
-:[[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#User:Nubis|And can we have this one too?]] =( -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
-::Sure. You have to take them for walkies, daily, though! :P<br />Seriously though, Nubis' status has been confirmed, and I have posted on Karek's talk page, asking if he wants to remain a sysop. Unless Karek says that he wants a demotion, I agree that both should remain sysops <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:05 21 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-I agree. Karek's done a damn good job while he was a Sysop, no point in removing his powers until he's sure he wants to leave.--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 13:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
+==January 2015==
+===Bummer===
+I was so sure at the time that ruins added smudged graffiti :/ {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
+:Ah, was that you? Came across it by chance, and took a while for me to get the opportunity to confirm/disprove it :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:07, 28 January 2015 (BST)</small>
-Thank you! If I mess on the carpet... uh, rub ''Karek's'' nose in it. It's the only way I will learn! --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 16:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
+=2014=
-===Unsuccessful Promotions===
+===Log in===
-On the [[:Category:Unsuccessful_Promotions_Candidacies|category page]] for archived unsuccessful promo bids, Jerrel Yokotory's bid is under U for the title of the page, not J for his user name. Is there a way to change it to look like all the others? --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 02:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
+Hello there! I just want to inform you that for the past few months new members cannot sign into this wiki. This is the message that keeps coming up.
-:It's a result of not specifying the category within the code. To categorise correctly one must not just add a <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever]]</nowiki>, but must put the desired title within as so <nowiki>[[Category:Whatever|Jerrel Yokotory]]</nowiki> otherwise it defaults to the category title, or page title, I can't remember. Jerrel's promotion bid should not have been archived, if Nubis wishes to use precedent in regards to his own bid he must also abide by the precedent set by Xela's bid, but do you really think our sysop team will do that? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
+"Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information."
-::It defaults to the full page title. Precedent shouldn't ''always'' be followed, though I do think it should've been one of the crats to archive it. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>¦[[User talk:Midianian|T]]¦[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]¦[[Suggestions|SP]]¦</sup></small> 10:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
+I was hoping that you or any of the admins of this wiki page can look into this and solve the problem. It would help this wiki come back to once how it was. Thank you! --[[User:LuE Colo|LuE Colo]] 20:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
-:Should be fixed now <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:40 16 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Thanks, Boxy. Some of us have OCD about that kind of thing :) --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 00:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
-===Zink===
+===SZ===
-Since he's cleared his page, here's my comment, with the same amount of sarcasm. :P
+A huge gap, I must say. I'm happy with SZ to retain his buttons, unless something mental happens in the next few days. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  17:46, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
+:The wiki obviously wouldn't function without him <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 00:50, 28 August 2014 (BST)</small>
-::''I'm sorry'', I could have sworn that this comment:
+===garden decorations===
+Gnome will up in a few days. The bid looks unanimous. Unless he gets revealed to have been Cornholioo all the time I think we can hand him the buttons back on Thursday. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 16:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
+:<nowiki>*bump*</nowiki>Wednesday. Bid will run out tomorrow. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
+::Sounds good to me :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 05:54, 12 June 2014 (BST)</small>
-Quote: Cheese "I give up trying to get decent diffs. All you need to do is just compare the contribs. They all match up. Its like he's talking to himself in places. I've also come across two more alts (User:Zink and User:Zinkthekiller and the most telling page of all User:Ahrimmagicks/Zinkthereviver. -- Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp? 00:05, 4 July 2008 (BST) "
+===Bob Moncrief===
-::had shown that Zink was a known sockpuppet of Zinker, and would have been banned when you said you were banning all his known alts. My bad, I guess I was thrown off by those comments that are '''apparently''' not that confusing. ''Sorry'' for wasting your time.
+My fellow crat, it seems like there is a notable notion to keep Bob, but also likely that he will be auto-demoted shortly after the start of the world cup. Thoughts? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:58, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
+:I don't see any reason to demote him before the automatic, inactivity clause kicks in (shortly). He's a good psysop, when he's around <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:21, 10 May 2014 (BST)</small>
+::I'm not comfortable with re-evaluating anyone who doesn't show up at his RE, and hasn't given any response for months. I'd rather cycle it as unsucessful and let him re-apply when - or if - he shows up again on the wiki. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:54, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
+:::OK. I'll demote him then <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:15, 19 May 2014 (BST)</small>
-Anywho, previous sarcasm aside, on the archive of that case, it links to the current Zink, which would mean he had made the account back then. The owner just hadn't made any edits to confirm it. So shouldn't your comment be saying something about banning an account that hasn't done anything yet instead? Maybe you should read up before you try to +1 me next time, eh? :) --BFFs [[User:Suicidalangel|'''+SA+''']][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]] 4 EVA!!! 00:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
+===Question answered===
-:So it was, sorry about that. Cant have used the same IP, or had any zinker-like edits at the time. Anyway, next piece of vandalism will probably see him gone for good <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:42 13 February 2009 (BST)</small>
+Yea... on my talk page... after 5 years. --[[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
-::Oh, its no problem boxy. Sorry about the large amounts of sarcasm in it, but you called me numbnuts for no reason that time. :'( --<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 12:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
-===[[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Semi-protection|Semi-protection]]===
+=2013=
-No one else seems interested, and I know why. But you suggested it, so I'd be great if you checked it, please. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
+===Broken Redirect===
+Hey there Boxy, this page showed up on the Broken Redirects-list while I was patrolling: [[User:Boxy/Sandbox/UHUB]]. Please consider putting it up for deletion and help keep the wiki clean ;) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 12:59, 19 June 2013 (BST)
+:I just deleted it as a broken redirect due to a page move, which doesn't need documenting (as it's a [[A/D/S|scheduled deletion]]). Thanks for pointing that out <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 15:13, 21 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-===?===
+===Great Fire banner===
-[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Matteusz/VRastignac&action=history This] and [[User:VRastignac]] and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:VRastignac&action=history this]? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
+Hey Boxy, I was wondering why you removed the ALiM banner from [[Great Fire of 1912]]? There was actually a discussion about the banner's presence when the article was [[UDWiki:Featured Articles/Candidates/Archive/Unsuccessful#Great Fire of 1912|up for FAs]], and a discussion on [[User talk:Nallan#Great Fire|Nallan's talk page]] concluded that the banner should stay. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:40, 2 June 2013 (BST)
-:Looks like [[User:Matteusz|Matteusz]] has created another [[User:VR|account]], but still doesn't get how to link to an actual user page. PK is an ironically n00bish group <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:57 10 February 2009 (BST)</small>
+:They don't own the page, any more than Hagnat owns the [[BIC]], which he created. They can arby me if they still care <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 22:15, 2 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-::Ehe, ok. Though Matt's user contributions don't show he created the old version of User:VRastignac. Or am I missing it? :| --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 15:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
+::Cool. Just wanted to make sure you acted with awareness of the history of the issue. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:03, 3 June 2013 (BST)
-:::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Matteusz/VRastignac&action=history History of old page] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:15 10 February 2009 (BST)</small>
+:::He totally hates that banner. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:58, 3 June 2013 (BST)
-::::Oh, I've just realised that history is moved along with the page. lol. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 15:19, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
+::::It's better than [[User_talk:Boxy/Wiki/2008#Colloquialisms|it used to be]], but still doesn't belong on backstory pages <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:21, 4 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-===Whatcha' doin'?===
-The guys over at the [[Dulston Alliance]] wanted me to ask what Dead Animal was up to in the Pilton Building. I told them to cool their trigger fingers because last I heard you weren't exactly a death cultist and that doesn't seem to be a policy stated anywhere on the Dead Animals wikipage, or Redux. Just your rivalry with the Friends of the Featherstone Library. Do you play dual nature, or were you combat revived and are now just hanging around a bit? Let me know, or not. Thanks. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius]] 20:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-:He does tend to take it out on generators in NT buildings, but yeah, sticks to offing the FotFL guys mostly, these days. He does the dual nature thing, but only when supporting a rot revive point... there's a [[The Carlyle Building|prime location]] for one on the Dulston/Rhodenbank boundary that he stumbled upon too, although I don't hold out much hope for the residents supporting such a facility <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:37 9 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::I would have to agree with you on that one. The concept of "Rot Revive Clinics" are about as foreign a concept to northeast locals as is the idea of real "mall tactics". That's why the Dulston Alliance doesn't see the mall as worth saving, not enough people know how to defend it to keep it. For now I'll let the Alliance know that you're not a death cultist, but if you get spotted/reported for GKing you'll still end up on the Black List. Just a friendly FYI. Oh, and if you want something to do as a survivor, restore Troubridge Cinema and/or St.Barbara's Church. I don't understand why the zombies keep messing with my "Night of the Living Dead" stuff. ;) --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius]] 19:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::Well, one of the guys came along and sentenced me to death, indirectly, by repairing the ruin I was hiding in. Didn't take my zombie brothers long to find me after that. But it's alright, I have a purpose again, debarricading a NT, destroying it's genny, and calling the ferals in for a feed. Things are as they should be, again ;) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:09 10 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-:::No such thing. You're just making it impossible for it to ever live period, the meta is always what defends the mall, the rest is just a distraction. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
-===CE===
-areyou sure the crat elections spose to start? I haven't looked into it at all but [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|this discussion]] would suggest its another 2 weeks til its due...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:12, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-:"''After [[UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions#Rules|3 months]] with no elections on a bureaucrat position, an election is called for the bureaucrat position longest without an election.''"
-:The [[UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat Promontions/November 2008|last election]] finished on 4 December 2008, therefore the next on would be due on the 4th of March (barring resignation or crat inactivity). As you can see from this example, where the [[UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions/June_2008#Result|June crat election]] ended on the 22nd of June and was followed by [[UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat Promotions/October 2008|one starting]] on the 23rd of September <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:25 8 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::okay i'm totally lost. You just said the 4th of march which is like 3 weeks away...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::I don't think I can make it any clearer... yes, 3 or 4 weeks away <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:08 8 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::But a new ones started...unless you're saying it won't end until march the 4th? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::::Oh, that's what you're getting at. No. I meant that the one that cheese just started didn't need to be done until March 4 <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:51 8 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-===Hey===
-My bad on Promo, I thought you made a mistake. I didn't know that you purposely put BFF instead of Angel.--BFFs [[User:Suicidalangel|'''+SA+''']][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]][[User:Suicidalangel|SA]][[User:Nubis|N]] 4 EVA!!! 00:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-===honestmistake===
-While grateful for your support in the promotion bid I feel I really should point out that I simply do not have the skills or patience to do many of the technical functions that a sysop normally does. This is not to say that I cannot and will not learn enough to help out, rather to point out that I currently have no clue as to how they work. If you were voting for me because you trust my judgement on issues like A/VB and Misconduct then thank you… if you think I can be trusted to maintain the wiki infrastructure then please change your vote to abstain because I am crap at editing stuff let alone fixing other folks mistakes.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
-:lolwut? It's not really that hard...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
-:Just withdraw the bid if you doubt your ability to do the job <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:18 4 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::I think it's more a bizarre form of sucking up, but i must say i'm rather confused as to the motive...maybe trying to get get a/vb-ed ala woot? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::Its more a case of making sure that no one is under any illusions as to my technical know how.  Boxy is probably already aware as he has fixed a few of my errors over the years but as I sent this to all who "Vouched" for me I thought it best to be consistent and include Boxy too. As for "sucking up"... that would make sense only if I really wanted the promotion and would probably be better done by targetting those who abstained. I am more than willing to accept promotion and be useful if people think I can be (hell i might even enjoy it?) but not getting it really will not send me into a spiral of bitterness like it did Bob. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 13:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
-::::Okay fair enough. I just think technical know-how isn't really a criterion for sysopship. As long as you can delete a page and follow some red tape in the process, it's just the same as being a normal user. Oh, aside from being able to place little apostrophes around your decisions on a/m and a/vb cases. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:05, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::::Probably should be but only for users who want to edit protected templates, which most don't. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-===plz to be===
-strikan my vandal escalation? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 02:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
-:Good enough for you?--<font face="Pristina"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel -</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 02:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
-===Aren't physical threats bannable on this wiki?===
-I can't find the policy which covers it, though. I bring this up in regards to this [[User_talk:Jakezing#Administration|this]]. Darkmagic (it's him, right?) made ''two'' such comments... To be honest, I'm a little miffed that hagnat took the liberty of letting him off the hook. He ought not to have done so, imo, b/c I thought we were zero tolerance on that kind of shit. Especially since he did it ''twice'' and there's no way it could be taken as "sarcastic".... Are our hands tied now, then? In any case, any thoughts on how one should proceed with something like this, whether hag's imnsho non-standard warning sticks or not? Thanks.  --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
-:If Iscariot feels threatened by it, and wants to report it, I'd warn him for it, given he's made it clear it's supposed to be a R/L threat. But really, it's hard to take such bullshit seriously <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:08 2 February 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Stop being a whiny cunt WanYao, before I find you irl, rip your throat out, and shit down your neck--{{User:WOOT/sig}} 23:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::<nowiki>:</nowiki>D Only case i can think of though wan was nick saying this guy should watch his back. He didn't get any punishment although it served up a small helping of drama...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
-===Boxman!===
-[[A/PM#Suicidal Angel|What do you reckon?]] I'm not entirely sure about this one. =p -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
-:I think it's pretty clear that the community is happy to have him as a sysop, and rightly so, seeing as the only major problems he's caused are far in the past. BTW, please don't archive the bid straight away. Make your ruling, and leave it for a few days so that it's easy for people to find out what happened rather than having to navigate through the archives (not knowing which category it may have went in) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:13 29 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-===Entirely Angry===
-I still don't agree, but meh. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
-:I remember when Pescodcide/Dullstown used to be constantly green, and we'd regularly break into buildings, killing survivors here and there. But I wouldn't describe the place as anything but safe, because we could all bank on getting a headshot, inside or out, within the hour, and the survivors a revive as soon as they stood up :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:45 27 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::I always find it boils down to your definition of '''a group''' of zombies. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Warm, Comfy Socks===
-I think the wiki martyr case is a closed deal, so I'm not going to add anything else.  I think my view of sockpuppets is best demonstrated by [[Template:BadSockpuppet|this template]].  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 01:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
-===[[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#User:Lithedarkangel|Promotion Bid]]===
-Well, they've had two weeks now. What do you think? Yay or nay? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:40, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
-:It's a pretty clear decision, community supportwise, I think. His contributions in the admin area have been fine, it's just that they've been limited to one section, speedy/deletions. I'd like to see his opinions in the policy discussion area, on a wider range before he goes further <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:24 20 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::That's pretty much what I was thinking. I'll do the shifting on [[A/PM]] now. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
-===job well done===
-I was just looking for an active sysop to look at "user: wiki martyr" when I saw you had already gotten him. Funny but obviously a No-No. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 09:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Warning stuff===
-So... Im I "unwarned" :D? All did was "revert" my sig to my original signing when I posted. There were too many intermediate versions to just undo Leroys changes. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 20:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Show me the diff comparison where you originally changed all those sigs to what you say you've reverted them back to, and we'll talk <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:02 15 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::These are my original "posts" -> [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALeroy_Jankens&diff=1357788&oldid=1357769],[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALeroy_Jankens&diff=1357362&oldid=1357260],[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALeroy_Jankens&diff=1356816&oldid=1356782] then leroy did [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALeroy_Jankens&diff=1357909&oldid=1357788 this] so I [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALeroy_Jankens&diff=1358201&oldid=1358093 changed] them back to my original signing. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 12:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
-::: The page's [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Leroy_Jankens&limit=250&action=history history], as you can see it has a lot of intermediate versions. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 12:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
-===[[Kempsterbank]]===
-Because I had first hand information, as per my report on the [[suburb]] page. There is an active zombie group of above 10. Even the suburb's own news page admits there's a "hot spot" of zombie activity.  Good enough? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Fair enough. I want to get a feel for how reliable the EMRs are, and having a suburb show up as no standing zombies, and hours later be classified as moderately dangerous is an anomaly :P <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:10 9 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Yeah I was in a hurry and should have changed it and recorded why in the comments box. I was just being lazy! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Undeletions?===
-Sorry, I don't know wiki well, and I couldn't find an email or anything to request the undeletion of an old - and rather historical - police station from M-ville.
-A link to the deletion request in question. - Umm, I'm not sure, sorry.  :-/
-A reason for undeletion. This should be short and to the point. - I'm assuming because it hadn't been updated in quite some time...
-A signed datestamp.
-It was: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Brewer_Street_Police_Dept < Brewer Street PD was one of two main operation bases for the humans/survivors working with the M-ville PD - [[Monroeville Police Department]] - which was, if not the, among the most powerful and organized survivor groups back then.  It would be greatly appreciated if it could be undeleted for historical references.  Hopefully I'm talking to the right guy, like I said I don't know wiki well, so if you could forward it on to the right place if this isn't the right place to request, I'd greatly appreciate it.
-Thanks! - [[User:ChiefyMan|ChiefyMan]] 05:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
-:It's been moved to [[Brewer Street Police Department (Monroeville)]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:36 9 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-===Template Question===
-I'm trying to figure out how to display the month in which a page was last modified in named form.  I know <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTH}}</nowiki> exists, but it displays the month in numeric form.  This would work, but having both a date and month expressed numerically can be confusing, as their positions are interchangeable in common usage.  Anyway, I tried to create a template <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTHNAME}}</nowiki> by using code from wikipedia and <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTH}}</nowiki>.  This has failed and I can't figure out how to get it to work.  Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 07:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-:What do you need it for? The revision date is at the bottom of pages for me, already. For example, "''This page has been accessed 15,589 times. This page was last modified 07:44, January 6, 2009''" is at the bottom of this page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:26 6 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::I wanted to use it in another template<nowiki>: {{Mobile Phone Mast Coverage}}</nowiki>, based on the Monroeville and Borehamwood population templates.  I wanted to include a last revised date on the template, so it would be convenient to see how current the network coverage number was.  Using the revision templates would make updating the mobile coverage template slightly easier, as only the % number would have to be updated.  Like I said, <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTH}}</nowiki> would suffice, but I think having the month in named form is potentially less confusing, and also, in my opinion, looks better.  I tried playing around with the <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTHNAME}}</nowiki> template a bit, but its above my wiki editing skill level.  Oh, and yes, if templates created for this little project fail / aren't used a speedy deletion will be their ultimate fate.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 22:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::I'd guess that the problem is that we don't have [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Parser_function parser functions] installed in this wiki (I think). Pity really, because I could use it in one of my projects <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:03 7 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::I think I may actually have gotten it to work.  Turns out <nowiki>{{switch}}</nowiki> was used prior to parser functions on wikipedia, and was a valid template here.  Anyway, I'm almost certain <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTHNAME}}</nowiki> works properly now (though I guess I won't know for certain until February.)  Anyway, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  Also, I'll submit the two unused templates created in the process: <nowiki>{{MONTHNAME}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{MONTHNUMBER}}</nowiki> to [[A/SD]].  Thank you again for your help.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 11:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::Edit: Given further thought, <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTHNAME}}</nowiki> is useless, as it would only display when it was last revised.  Its code is now directly included in the mobile coverage template I was working on.  <nowiki>{{REVISIONMONTHNAME}}</nowiki> will join its cousins in the speedy deletion queue.  Thanks anyway for the help though.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 11:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
-:You might also want to put that failed template up for [[A/SD]] by the way. Unless you can change it over to something useful or that works.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 11:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-I made something to this effect in ProjDev. Just haven't quite bothered finishing it yet. Depending on how soon it's needed and how major a part of the project it is I could always fast track it for you.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Well, it ended up working, but not as I intended.  All the revision templates called the final page they were included on, and not the phone mast template.  It would be slightly preferable if I could figure out how to make them work how I want them.  In the mean time, I've resorted to tildes (which work fine, but are an extra step for anyone updating the template, and produce a more precise, but less aesthetically pleasing result.)  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 13:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Questionf===
-Are you a girl?--{{User:Thari/sig}} 06:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-:No. If I was I wouldn't be interested either :p <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:00 6 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Are you sure?--{{User:Thari/sig}} 07:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::Hmmm, I guess that depends... are you a girl? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:29 6 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::Silly boxy. There are no girls on the internet. Why do you think you answered no?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-QHA-QAMY <span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 12:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Info Locations===
-Why [[Template:Info Police Department|this]] and [[Template:Info Police Dept|this]]? I was wondering, can we do redirects for categories ([[Wiki_Questions#Template_parameters|for this problem]])? For example, redirect 'Category:Police Dept' to 'Category:Police Department? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 21:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-:No, redirects don't put the pages into the other category <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:01 6 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::I see. What was the problem with the old system? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
-===The DRAMA!===
-Wow, I've only been gone since November and it seems in that time span the whole place has gone to hell! J3d got demoted and A/VB is full of trolling! The whole place is falling apart. How did it happen so quick?--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 06:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Two months is a long time on teh interwebs <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:14 5 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-No more trolling than is usually done. :) --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-QHA-QAMY <span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 11:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Signing===
-Thanks, are you refering to anything specific?--[[User:Captain Rickety|Captain Rickety]] 00:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Not really. I was going through your contributions to see what was going on when you broke the [[STARS]] redirects, and noticed that a lot of your talk page contributions weren't signed. It makes it very hard to work out who said what unless you sign (and timestamp) your talk page posts <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:23 5 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-===administration question===
-Hi, I was browsing around this wiki's administration policy and I was a little confused with this guideline, the one that states a user may be warned or banned 'When acting in accordance with approved policies.' What does this mean? Isn't doing this good? [[User:Liberty|Liberty]] 08:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Boxy will no doubt move this around to the right part of his page, please try and follow people's conventions on their own pages. The user in the guideline you quote is the sysop doing the warning. The sysop may warn when acting in accordance with approved policies. It's the future proof clause, it allows a sysop to warn a user even though a policy wasn't approved when the guidelines went through, it elimates the loophole of ''"You can't warn me because the guidelines don't mention or apply to that policy because it wasn't invented"''. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 08:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:What Iscariot said, basically. You've got to read it in the context of the whole paragraph.
-:''"System operators may only warn/ban a user when... [snip]... acting in accordance with approved policies."'' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:48 3 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::Did you log your edit of that protected policy page on any admin page for oversight? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::No, but thanks for watching my back. Does this mean we're friends now, and I can use your talk page too ;) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:13 3 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::So let me get this right, you decided to alter a policy voted in by the community and not note this edit anywhere so that the community or another sysop could exercise oversight or voice some sort of concern? Yes, of course you may post on my talk page, provided you have [[UDWiki:Administration/Demotions|edited this page in the same way as Gnome and every other unfit sysop]]. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::If it was an edit that changed the meaning of the policy in any way ''whatsoever'' I would bother, but seeing it was a simple grammar edit (taking out a couple of superfluous "when"s), it's a totally good faith edit <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:26 3 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::::As is proven by this user's question, it does change the meaning of the policy, because the policy said something completely different. I don't care if you believed (which I doubt) that your edit was good faith, the fact is you edited a protected page without logging the change. You broke the guidelines, that same as Cheese was misconducted for. Going to go to A/M and write up your own case for review? Didn't think so, there's your "good faith". -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::Making a policy easier to understand by removing the excess padding around the important bits is not bad faith. In fact, most of the policies we have are very long-winded and could probably be summarised in about 4 or 5 bullet points. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 12:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::::As was proven by the original user, it was a complete change of the written meaning of the policy. If you could even comprehend the precedence this sets.... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::::Oh noes!1!!!1!!!1!!eleventyone!!1!!0!"2B!!1 =( I r 2 st00p1d 2 reed Engl15h? Seriously, fuck off. Don't sit there and attempt to say I'm thick. That is not on. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 12:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Guidelines&diff=prev&oldid=1353726 The edit in question] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:02 3 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::Which is now logged, even thought there is little need for grammar edits to be so logged <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:04 3 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-I wonder when you guys will realize that he doesn't actually have a point and realizes it. He's just a troll, stop the feeding.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:44, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
-:Is the amusement he creates as a troll greater than the frustration he generates as one? I lean toward No, but some of you have more tolerance than I do. Is he really a troll we should seriously look into? I already have my answer (and case) ready, but I thought I would get a feel for the general opinion.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 06:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
-::No, I am not a troll, it was a serious question, and sorry Boxy for putting my question at the bottom of the talk page. I read the template at the top and thought it implied I should press the '+'. Sorry. And thanks. [[User:Liberty|Liberty]] 00:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::I doubt they're talking about you, Liberty, but rather Iscariot <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:31 5 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::And thats the second paragraph I've totally read wrong infront of you guys. You must all think I'm blind. Pardon me [[User:Liberty|Liberty]] 12:39, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Sexylegsread's banning===
-I hate to say it, but you're probably going to A/M for that one. It was a witchhunt and nothing more, a 48 hour ban is ridiculous.--{{User:The General/sig}} 18:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:48 hours was his next escalation level.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::Yes, but it should never have been vandalism. Vandalism is defined as a bad-faith edit and this wasn't one.--{{User:The General/sig}} 21:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::He made plenty of bad faith edits to increase the effectiveness of the impersonation's "lulz", General. On the vandal's talk page, on A/VB, and on A/M. It was a joint effort, in the planning, and the implementation... and that's only if you buy the story he tells <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:58 2 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-:::Yes it was, this was meatpuppetry. It was him trying to get around the rules by telling someone who he knew and wouldn't be punished to make a throw away account and do it in his stead. Sockpuppetry is vandalism, this is the same thing with an extra layer of insulation.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::A friend suggested it, not him. While it was very bad form to say "it will be lulz", I can't see that as vandalism. I feel we're getting a dangerously close to a vendetta here.--{{User:The General/sig}} 21:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::A friend that has never edited the wiki and wouldn't know who Cyberbob is? That is/was one of the worst cope outs I've ever heard/read.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::lol, read, good pun :) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 23:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Hey Mr. Boxman!===
-If you use Fire Fox 2 do you think you could look at [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Suicidalangel&oldid=1315114 this] revision and tell me if Engel's character box is in the middle of the page, and not after a giant stretch of space? Last time I looked at my page, it was FF2, and it looked fine. I get FF3, and all of a sudden, the character box was pushed waaaaayyy down my page, for no reason. I made some changes to fix the way it looks here, but I'm just curious now.--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 01:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Try <nowiki><br clear="both" /></nowiki>--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 12:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-:I'm using FF3, and it's the same. Changing the table width to 65% (instead of 95%) fixed it for me. It's because your character table is too wide for what remains of the page when you take into account the sidebar with the templates on it, I think <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:56 31 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::I know, but in FF2, which I used up until 2 days ago, I never had to change it, and it always looked fine. That's why I was wondering if it was an FF 3 thing, and I didn't want to have to down grade, check, and then upgrade again and find all my bookmarks and neat tid bits again.--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 15:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Weird eh? Dunno, can't help <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:03 31 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Firefox 3 probably has stricter standards support then Firefox 2 so it is possible that it would cause problems on some pages.--{{User:The General/sig}} 18:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::I figured as much when I first saw it, I just was wondering ''if anyone had FF 2 could tell me if that revision looked okay''. I'm not looking so much for a fix (Karek), or an explanation as to why (Monsieur Box), but more just a quick check up should anyone use FF2 still. But thank you all anyway. I am grateful. :)  --[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 19:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::Hilariously enough it works in IE7.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::It works in IE7, but not FF3? Damn you Mozilla!--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 19:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::And actually Style="clear: right;" would probably fix the problem.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::Don't worry about it, no one uses Firefox 2 anymore.  In fact, you were the last person to switch to Firefox 3. ;)  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 19:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::I probably was, I waited to get 3 until the [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4521 Red Shift] theme was released for it. :D --[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 19:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::You know you can disable the theme/add-on filters right?--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::: Firefox 2 is teh awesome. Firefox 3 is teh suxxor. (i refused to move to ff3) --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 00:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
-=== Thanks for that ===
-Yeah, I added a note on the category page, and six months is a long time. Thanks for the heads up, though. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-=== Umbrella ===
-I disagree with you regarding redirecting the word Umbrella. There is a solid difference between Umbrella Corporation and Umbrella Biohazard Containment Service. There was never a need for this from either groups. --[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 13:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:There may be, but two groups in the city have "Umbrella" in their name, and in the interest of imparality, one should not be favored by using a redirect. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-::There is the issue that the Umbrella Corporation was around far longer then the UBCS, they should have considered another name back then.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 13:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::The page is now protected in the form of the disputed edit (i.e Boxy's). Take it to arbitration and don't start edit wars over something as simple as a redirect. Thank you. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 13:35, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::: If there is a edit war then it should be sorted out with arbitration, in the meantime the page stays in the original form until the ruling. Misusing sysops powers is not what you do. Unprotect the page return to the original form and ''then'' take this to arbitration.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 13:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Actually, it's not misuse. Quoting the Guidelines "In the event of protection, a system operator is expected to protect the page in whatever state the page was in at the time the request is reviewed, regardless of its original state."--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 15:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::That's not point. If I were to "edit" a page because I disagree with the content I would be told to go to arbitration. I go there, and during the arb case which version of that page would be kept up? The original one or the one with my vandalizing edits? Good answer: the original one. I have experienced myself that this goes this way. Now I am asking for the same treatment of this redirect page, is that odd?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 16:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::Its only one way because of precedent. It could just as easily be the other, any time a sysops wanted to do it another. You also have to remember the whole "Personal Judgment" clause.--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 16:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::The arbitration reversion clause ''only'' applies if you have an active and open arbitration case. You don't. You haven't started one. The page in question is protected due to an edit war, therefore the prevailing precedence is the Protections Guidelines that state the page will be protected in its current state when the protections request is reviewed. There is no abuse of sysop powers here. Go start an arbitration case disputing Boxy's edit, until that case resolves you can have the page reverted. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::: Alright, so according to Suicidalangel it depends on the personal choice of the sysops and according to Iscariot it depends whether the page falls under the protection or arbitration precedence? Uhm okay, since Iscariot's tale seems more logical I will go along with that. I am gonna wait for Boxy's response for now.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 17:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::And of course, you interpret it wrong. It depends on BOTH. If a sysop feels it's in the communities best interest to do something differently than the guidelines or precedent state, then he can. If he doesn't, he follows the well established precedents and guidelines.--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 18:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:The reason that I decided to make a disambiguation page is that there is at least [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2008_12#User:Umbrellaemployee (2)|one person out there]] who is using the similarity of the names to cause confusion as to whose forum is being linked to. And the similarity of the logos and page looks are also confusing. It needs to be clear that the groups can easily be confused. If I have it right, one of these groups split off from the original to form a splinter group? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:29 29 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Close. They had an arby case a few months ago over this. It's quite stupid and it's all [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Umbrella_Biohazard_Countermeasure_Servive_vs._Umbrella|here]] if you want to read it over. Basically Haliman took up an open offer from Airheadoh to take over UBCS. Haliman and Umbrella had a big falling out in the past over something and they (Umbrella) didn't like this. So they pretty much made it difficult as hell for him to take over (and he was making it difficult for them to stop him taking over). At the end of the case we had two UBCS groups and this is just the aftershocks of that since the 6 week no speaky condition ran out a few weeks ago. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Sheesh. So... was [[Umbrella Corporation]] originally the "mother group" to UBSC (and other umbrella sub-groups), and since Haliman took over, USBC split off altogether and now they've become enemies? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:14 30 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Pretty much yeah. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::I can make this allot more complicated: Again, the original Umbrella is the [[Umbrella Corporation]]. It's not my fault he (haliman) chose to create a similar like group. Secondly, there isn't just an Umbrella and a UBCS. You have the [[Umbrella Corporation]] and there are the different UBCS's. You have the [[Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service]], the [[U.B.C.S._Merc-for-hire]] and finally the youngest and haliman's one, the [[Umbrella Biohazard Containment Service]]. That's three group's alone who all use the UBCS acronym and begin with "Umbrella". We never had any issues with them about the "Umbrella Redirect" page not even with haliman's one (though I am sure he wants to keep it now). Why wont we add them all to the disambig page while were busy. Oh and disambig of the word "UBCS" needs to be enlarged aswell. Oh, and do outdated and inactive groups count to? Cuz then we need to drag this one in too: [[Umbrella Special Operations Unit]]. Nothing bad intended or anything Boxy, but your opening Pandora's Box. On a another note, you should know that in the Resident evil/biohazard universe Umbrella is the big evil pharmaceutical corporation and the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service is Umbrella's own PMC. When using the word Umbrella one usually means the first while for the latter almost always the acronym UBCS is used. Hope this clears things up, probably not though. --[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 00:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::OK, thanks. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been ignoring this whole multiple Umbrella orginisations confusion thing for a while now because it was all just too much hard work to figure out. The latest spate of vandalism has meant that something needs to be done to sort this out, and make it clear what pages belong to what organisation, and I feel that a disambiguation page is the best way to do this, and yes, I was going to expand on what I had put there, listing all your sub groups under your heading, but it's been locked now. What do you think about making the Umbrella page more than in addition to being a disambiguation page? Somewhere that explains the relevant Resident Evil history, as well as the history of the Umbrella/UBCS groups in Urban Dead <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:06 30 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::::Well I have gone ahead and expanded the disambig of [[UBCS]]. Uhm, you can't just unlock "Umbrella" and add the rest then in the meantime? I am pretty sure you are a system operator. Or do we need to go through some sort of "unlocking process" first? As for your plan of expanding "Umbrella" in a page that explains the different presences of Umbrella and its relations in Malton, well that's a very nice idea :). However, with all the hostility ;{ its probably hard to make it NPOV in a way everyone can agree with.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 12:46, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::You can request edits at [[A/PT]]. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 12:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::I could edit the page, but it would be against the rules. I've got to go through [[A/PT]] like everyone else. I suggest you pick someone impartial to you both, agree to let them decide what goes on the page, and then open up a discussion in neutral territory, like [[A/A|arbitration]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:51 30 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::: I am pretty sure I have dispute with you over that page, Boxy. Look, either we revert the page to its original state or we add all the other groups I named aswell. Atleast, that's what needs to...arh. --[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 12:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::::I don't care who you pick, just someone that has no vested interest. I might even put my 2c in as well, because the confusion makes the sysops job harder. It needs to be extremely clear who owns what page, so that the vandalism that has been going on lately can be easily spotted and evaluated <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:03 30 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::::::::Your losing me. I dont wanna look stupid on you but this is confusing .There's only one person which I have a dispute with about the "word" Umbrella and that's you. If your meaning this guy here:[[User:Haliman111]] , well he is not involved atleast not with this. If I go [[A/PT]] and request that the other groups are added to the disambig of "Umbrella", will that be okay?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 13:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::::::Sure. If you agree not to revert it to a redirect, I'll ask for it to be unprotected, and it can be expanded upon <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:59 31 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::::::::I agree not to revert it back to a redirect and I am for expanding the current disambig.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 11:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::::::::Can I have a private chat about the vandalism, Boxy? I have a few questions... They can be on my forum, or anywhere private, just not here with all of the.... Eyes.
-::::::::::::::::Forums: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Umbrella_UBCS/index.php?act=idx --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 20:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::::::Oh the secrecy, lol...That would be a NPOV chat, right?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 23:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::::::You can email me by using the [[Special:Emailuser/Boxy|link]] attached to this page if you must <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:03 2 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-====UBCS Merc-for-hire====
-Hi, Boxy. Look, I'm in charge of the UBCS Merc-for-hire, and I noticed you changed the page name to Umbrella Corporation/U.B.C.S. Merc-for-hire... This is inacurate. We are contracted by Umbrella corporation, and I am a full-time member of their group, but the UBCS Merc-for-hire is a sovereign entity, predating the Corporation by about a year in UD alone. Though I appreciate the link to our page in the UBCS redirect page, could you please undo all the changes you've made to my group's page. Thank you, [[User:Leon Cane|Leon Cane]] 14:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-:You're giving mixed messages here... you say you're a full time member of the corporation, the group is "contracted" by the corporation, yet somehow you're saying it isn't a sub-group? That would seem to be the definition of what a sub-group is <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:58 31 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Well... We're not. I, personally, am I member of Umbrella, which does not reflect my group, who are not. My group is, however, under contract to Umbrella because we are mercenaries, and they have the highest bid. If you'd take a look at our "Who We Are" section, there's a good bit of information that suggests that we are not, in fact, a sub-group. At any point, I can simply terminate our contract and my team moves on; we in no way are dependent on Umbrella, nor they to us. We belong to no-one. But listen, what it comes down to is this: It is my group. You have posted fallacious information on its page, and I request that your remove it. Thank you, [[User:Leon Cane|Leon Cane]] 02:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Is this one of those alt abuse things, where you're in the parent group, and also in the daughter group with another alt, trying to make out they're separate entities? Regardless, your roleplay explanation doesn't convince me. You could try to convince another sysop on [[A/MR]], I guess <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:25 31 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Now you're just being petty. [[:Image:Sir_WV_DORIS.png|WV is a member of DORIS]] and the Philosophe Knights, are you saying he's alt abusing? Or that the Knights are a sub group of DORIS, or vice versa? You going to refuse to move the PK back into their own namespace if someone pushes through a move to associate them under DORIS? -- [[User:Iscariot|Iscariot]] 17:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::No. I was genuinely asking a question, Iscariot. I wasn't sure if he was talking about two characters, one in UBSCmercs and one in UCorp. The whole set up sounds like the DEM or Extinction, and I see their having alts in multiple, closely allied groups as alt abusing. (BTW, I put your sig in for you, hope you don't mind) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:22 1 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::::No. The UBCS is not a subgroup. They are our closest allies. The fact that Leon Cane works at both groups is a ''cause'' of our good relationship not the ''reason''. There is no zerging, there is only one Leon Cane out there, and he has UBCS Mercs in his grouptag and yes he is active on both group forums. Now unless that is forbidden by wiki regulations I really don't see a reason why UBCS Mercs must be categorized as subgroup against there own will.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 12:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::OK, I moved it back. It's all seems a bit incestuous though :p <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:47 1 January 2009 (BST)</small>
-::::::::We are a very complicated group, both in structure and relationship :P.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 13:26, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Page===
-Aren't there any rules for things like these?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 11:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Yes, and they include taking it to arbitration so that you can present evidence before changing another groups sub-pages <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:53 29 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-===IRC===
-If you can please get on, I think we needs to talk about something sooner rather than later.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
-:I don't use IRC much at all. Want to email me (the email via the wiki is activated) the one we're using these days (last one I know of was the nexuswar one) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:00 28 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Sent, I really dislike the way emails are handled though. And it's still the nexuswar one that grim set up a while ago.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Next time either of you are on could you ask Revenant to unban me? --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 09:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::hahahaha.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Laugh it up faggot, IRC is small potatoes next to the shitstorm you've brought upon yourself. Enjoy your impending demotion. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 02:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::The wiki is srs business hey bawb ^.^--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 04:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::ouch.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
-===Move request redirects===
-Don't think they're scheduled but by their very nature they should really be deleted once all old links are cleared, unless of course there are trillions of them. I'm too lazy to actually check scheduleds so i could be wrong. Just wondering what the generally accepted approach is?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
-:If you move a page, you can (scheduled) delete the redirect that gets automatically created in it's place, as long as there are no links to the redirect page (other than from admin pages like A/MR and A/SD) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:36 25 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::If someone else moves and decides (slash is too lazy ) to move it and i wander in and want it gone?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:37, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Use your judgment. If it seems obvious that there could be no legitimate reason to leave the redirect... fix the links and bin it. Don't just do it as a matter of course <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 16:29 25 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Policy===
-Since we're already in the middle of one case over edit wars, it might be easier to resolve this here. You'll notice, if you actually read the top of the talk page, that The General makes note of the policy being under discussion under the same title and being archive by mistake. This is why it was entered for voting early. Now, one of you is breaching policy, either him for entering the policy early and attempting to subvert the voting process, or you for removing valid votes on a policy under voting.
-Which is it? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 04:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
-:If the policy was actually as good as it should be, I'd probably say that putting it straight to a vote was within the spirit of the policy, but given the fact that there's at least one very confusing grammatical problem with it, meh, "''a coupla days...'''" <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:00 24 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Is ''meh'' your official response as a sysop? The policy concerning suggesting and entering policies for voting is clear, it has the qualifier ''should''. The General's explanation on the talk page is one that I'd view as sufficient for this qualifier to take effect. In which case you have incorrectly removed votes from a policy under voting, therefore I'd like a more definitive answer than ''meh''. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 05:20, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::If '''he''' wants to take me to A/VB, he can, and I'll even put my hands up and take a warning for it, for messing with his policy. But I feel that it was an edit in good faith to improve his policy, and it's chances. Go annoy him about reporting me if you want. I don't mind <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:25 24 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-=== individual page creation? ===
-Ok, I was editing that one :P.--[[User:Lithedarkangel|Lithedarkangel]] 23:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Heh, sorry. Don't you just hate that! I've made a post on the locations nuts page about it anyway <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:41 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::So far, Hollomstown and Shearbank are free of merged pages.--[[User:Lithedarkangel|Lithedarkangel]] 23:45, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-===Mall Status===
-You've updated [[Treweeke Mall]]'s status. What, status updates aren't coming quick enough for yeh? Gotta take matters into your own hands? :D [[User:Met fan|Met Fan]] 00:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Just happened to be there when it fell <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:35 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-===RE: Arbitration===
-Since I am apparently acceptable to both of you,
-the case [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/St. Iscariot versus Boxy|St. Iscariot vs. Boxy]] has been opened. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 06:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
-:I've started a (hopefully) brief cross-examination phase. After Iscariot reponds to my question, I'm permitting you a brief rebuttal to the question. There may or may not be a few more questions... Thanks. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
-::Waiting on Iscariot's concluding statement to the Arby, followed by yours. Thank you. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Is this step even really necessary? I'd think you'd have enough information to at the very least be inclined to rule one way or the other at this point. There's a [[A/PT#S.O.S.|A/PT]] request waiting on the outcome.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
-===Our lovely discussion has been archived...===
-====Moved from Nubis's page====
-'''Is there more to this discussion? It shouldn't be lost to the archive.'''
-:::quite frankly i'd be glad if you thought nick and jed were the same account. I mean it's so apparent we aren't. If you suspected us i'd be all like "lol what a douche he thinks we're the same person" coz like, who the fuck could be bothered acting like different people for 2 yearss??? that shits stupid....{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::# 03:46, December 17, 2008 J3D got IPs for Nallan on ud_wiki
-::::::# 03:45, December 17, 2008 J3D got IPs for J3D on ud_wiki
-::::::# 03:45, December 17, 2008 J3D got IPs for Boxy on ud_wiki
-::::::# 07:01, November 23, 2008 J3D got IPs for J3D on ud_wiki (added)
-::::::Interesting. Did boxy give you permission to check his IP? Was he vandalizing or suspected of account sharing/sock puppets? Why would you need to get IP information on yourself and Nallan? --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 23:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::Just a sneaking suspicion i had about those 3...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 23:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::Trying to find out where I live [[User_talk:Boxy#several_things|again]], eh J3D? I hope you're not planning on sharing the '''''big info''''' with your buds <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:44 18 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::I wish i was that internet capable...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::If you already checked his you'd know that they probably already checked it themselves with his sysop privileges.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::Proof plz. I'm the only person who knows the password to this account.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::::Check User from the 14th lends itself to a different conclusion.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:22, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::::Oh, I didn't check that one. Interesting. So the J3D account and the Nallan account are used from the same computer at times. I see two options of what went on on December 17;
-::::::::::::#either Nallan logged in as J3D and used the sysop tools to look up the IP details listed above and make inane posts on multiple admin pages;
-::::::::::::#or J3D looked up the IP details above, and noticing that Nallan was showing up as using the same IP he went about making damned sure that I checked it out in the hope of creating a dramafest by checking my IP details, and making [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FProtections&diff=1338993&oldid=1338981|inane posts] on [[A/PT]] and signing as Nallan.
-::::::::::::I'm inclined to go for option 2, because he even went to the trouble of IP checking a [[User:Nigggers!|non existent user]], presumably refering to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Sandpit&curid=87776&diff=1336807&oldid=1325805&rcid=1365875 this post of Nallans]] which looks very much like something a friend would do if they managed to log in to the accoun ("''I'm feeling niggardly LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL (nigger)''"). Worst case senario, other kids have access to J3Ds account, best case, J3D is using his checkuser abilities to stir up drama because he's bored with it already <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:21 19 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::::::This seems like something Kevan would be interested in. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 07:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::WOW!! You guys have really fucking overactive imaginations! I couldn't think up such a tale of intrique if you paid me! Anyway as well as being astounded i should probably offer up an option number 3. Nallan and I are real life friends, you should all be aware of this, we don't hide it. As real life friends we visit each other at home (each other's IP addresses) and thus on occasion edit from one anothers IPs. I'm fairly certain this is well within the bounds of the guidelines. Now you sure fucking don't have to believe me, but i don't really care either way, this is simply if you're interested - No one edits off my account except me. I can't guarentee you no one edits off Nallan's account except him but i sure haven't. Anyway that is pretty much the story. I love it how the option with the most simple explanation is the one you all fail on.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::::::lol this shit made my day. Kevan must be alerted! fucking gold.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 04:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::::::You do realise that that explaination is basically the same as option 2, except it neglects to explain why you felt it neccessary to look up my IP details, the IP details of a [[User:Nigggers!|non existent user]] and act like a prat on multiple admin pages <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 22:39 20 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::::::::''"noticing that Nallan was showing up as using the same IP he went about making damned sure that I checked it out in the hope of creating a dramafest by checking my IP details"'' How is that even remotely like what happened??? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
-''<small>The above moved from [[User talk:Nubis|Nubis' talk page]]</small>'' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:10 28 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-====Continued discussion====
-I'll guess you'll never find out the answer ;) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
-:[[User_talk:Nubis#Is_there_more_to_this_discussion.3F_It_shouldn.27t_be_lost_to_the_archive.|Unless it shows up here...]] --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:31, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
-::So you want to continue the drama, but strangely you move the discussion, and your reply to me to someone else's talk page. Good work, chum, way to show me that you didn't do it all for the excitement <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:39 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Yeah, coz i totally moved it :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:| L2history. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 02:26, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::OK, sorry. It was Nubis who brought it back out. You still haven't explained your random IP checks though <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:51 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::We were drunk, it seemed funny.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Fark, are you trying to get demoted, or something? Found out just how not-fun sysoping is, eh <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:54 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::The only sysop function i did was IPing you and the guidelines state suspicion is enough to warrant doing so. So there really isn't anything demotion worthy happening there.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::So what made you suspicious of me? Oh, and [[User:Nigggers!]], who doesn't even exist, but was "suspicious" to you too. What makes it possibly demotion worthy is that it seems you were looking up someone's [[UDWiki:Privacy_policy|personal information]] with your mates for a lark <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:02 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::::::We were drunk! Niggggers was for lulz, to see what happened when you IPed a non-existant user. Also, my IP info has been looked up repeatedly by the admin, i have ''never'' used any other account besides this one on the wiki and ''never'' allowed anyone else access to mine. Yet on 5 separate occasions sysops have decided it was necessary to look up my details, surely that's overkill? Like i said, it was for fun, nothing bad happened with your IP info and quite frankly my internet skills don't extend as far as being able to turn an IP address into anything useful.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::But you did give the other sysops reason to be suspicious by [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Protections&diff=prev&oldid=1338993 signing as Nallan] and all of a sudden changing your posting style on admin pages. The fact that you think it's acceptable to get drunk with your mates and go looking up people's IP addresses goes towards your trustworthiness to have access to such information <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:30 22 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::Your idea of an awesome time while drunk with your mates involves a computer? Wow, you're pretty cool. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 05:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::I am cool, [[2 Cool]] ;) (wink means it's funny lol) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::Hey bob - who exactly do we have to impress here? I play a MMORPG based around a zombie apocalypse - gave up on being cool loooong ago.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 05:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::Never too late to come back to the light brosef - give up on the game and do more for shits and giggles. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 05:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::So Halo 3 is THAT fun is it? We just might have to give that a try!--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 04:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
-::::::::::Good job coming up with the quickfire comeback there, cuntload. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 07:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
-====VB incompetence====
-{{nussing}}
-[[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12#User:HAHA_DISREGARD_THAT_I_SUCK_COCKS|You and your mates]] are at it again, eh. Keep off the admin pages (except for [[A/DM]]) unless you're going to do the job you fucking signed up for <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:08 28 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Journals===
-I wanted to ask, shouldn't [[A_Survivor's_Diary|this]] and other pages be on their writer's supspace?
---{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 22:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Oh, I've just noticed the redirect. Thanks. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 22:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
-::Oh man, the [[Malton Chronicles]] contains a heap of pages in need of moving and re-linking... later <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:10 11 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Mmh, about 20 pages. Should I list them on the [[UDWiki:Administration/Move_Requests|Move Requests Page]]? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 23:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::If you want to :) I've got to go now <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:20 11 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::Ok. :) --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 23:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
-[[User:Team Meat|This user]] has more than [[Special:Contributions/Team_Meat|10 pages]] that should be moved in his subspace. Is writing [[User:Team Meat/Detective A Clarke/Chronicles|all those links]] in the Move Requests page useful? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 15:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Nevermind, Nubis moved them. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 18:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
-::Seems everyone has forgotten about the [[UDWiki:Namespaces#Journal:_pseudo-namespace|Journal psuedo-namespace]] that has been the convention since forevers and evers. Shame really, as it contains the biggest page on the wiki.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::Oh, I know it's there... I just don't see the point in putting journals there (as opposed to user sub pages), because it is only a ''pseudo''-namespace, basically just an ordinary page. At least as a user sub-page, we can tell who the journal belongs to, regardless of what character name is attributed to it <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:13 13 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-===grats on promotion===
-I look forward to your nervous breakdown and the subsequent power trip that will get you desysopped, a proud UDbureaucrat tradition. Prost! --[[User:Zaruthustra|Zaruthustra]]<sup>[[Moderation|Mod]]</sup> 03:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
-:yep... it's just a matter of time, they'll get you too. You know it too be true. --<small><span style="border: 2px solid #DDD">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black">&nbsp;Vista&nbsp;</span>''']][[User_talk:Vista|<span style="background-color: #DDD; color: Ivory ">&nbsp;T&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
-:I was planning on just slowly loosing interest, and fading away, but if that's not the done thing... any suggestions on an original wig out plan? ;) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:15 13 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-===several things===
-firstly, fuck you. You are unfit to be a crat. But then again, maybe you're not too bad. I still haven't made up my mind. Before i forget i also need to discuss [[Suggestion:20081206_Pistol:_Appearnce/type|this]] with you. Look at it. It's technically a subpage of some fucked up spelling shit, but it's not. He just misused the /, whats the deal with that? Also, boxy, i don't mind y ou. You're alright. You can be a cunt. And you sure are no grim. But still you're fun to fuck around with on this wiki of  ours. Anyway since i'm writing this i should probably endorse [[2 Cool]] and suggest you vote on [[ALiM]]. Do it now. cya round buddy. Also, do you live in sydney? coz that shit would be lolarious...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:11, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Normally we'd use % url encoding but it apparently doesn't work with slashes on the wiki. So nothing.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 18:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
-:You could move it to [[Suggestion:20081206 Pistol Appearnce-Type]], or something, if it's bugging you. If you do, fix up the links to it, and get rid of the redirect. p.s. [[A/DM|this page]] is a bit underused, atm, you should contribute :p <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:26 8 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-::dun.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
-===Here's your keys back===
-I think we should get a policy going to make you a permanent 'crat. =p I think this is your 4 term now unless my adding is hopelessly screwed. Congratulations. =) -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-::Only meatpuppets would be allowed to vote though :P <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:49 5 December 2008 (BST)</small>
-:All is going well. Have you implanted the device with the user rights change as ordered, Cheese? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-::Yes, Master Gnome. It has been done. I await further instruction. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-:::No further commands, underling. Just remember to "activate" it on the 10th. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-::::Yes, my Master. It shall be done as you have commanded. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 23:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-===Bot===
-Does not compute. [[User:MC Grammar|MC Grammar]] 15:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-===I just called to say i love you===
-And I mean it from the bottom of my heart.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-:So much love on the wiki at the moment, it's getting to me...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-===Sysop thing.===
-Yep. And it will be. Its only there so I can have fun with the move button today. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 08:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-===Usually...===
-...the a/sd template accompanies a listing on a/sd.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
-:It's supposed to... but I get sick of telling people. Why? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:20 24 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-::You put the template on something without putting it up on a/sd, i forget what now..--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
-::Wow finding [[User:Argento Montesano|that]] was easy...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
-:::Ahhh. Yeah, that's why I put the template on it, so I could find it easy. I didn't want to delete it right away, to give the author a chance to figure out what happened. I'll schedule delete it sometime (if one of the other sysops doesn't get it first <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:35 25 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-===[[User:Soldier|Soldier UDW]]===
-'''11/21/08:''' Dude! Stop moving our pages! How do you like it if one of your pages gets moved? We are keeping an eye on you. If you moved one of are pages again we will track you down and POW! Ask permission next time if you are going to move one of are pages. Or else we would prosecute you for Insubordination. I don't even care if you are an Arbitrator, just stop moving are pages and ask next time if you are going to do.{{unsigned|Soldier|03:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)}}
-::Group sub pages go in your group space, where I put it. Now you stop recreating the page in the wrong place, or you're the one going to get done for "insubordination". If you want to have exclusive control of what can and can not be said on the page, and especially the talk page, it must be in your group sub page area, otherwise it's a community page, and anyone can edit it and removing others comments off the talk page is considered vandalism <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:31 22 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::Might help if you explained how he could use it as a template outside of that namespace for the sake of the Recruitment pages.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-::::Looks like he [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category:Recruitment&diff=prev&oldid=1318231 understands] that already <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:44 22 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-:::::Quick Question; how do you charge somebody higher ranking then you with insubordination?--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 15:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Because Darkmagick/Powerhouse, when you're making pages on a WIKI, the Sysops technically have a higher rank in the disciplinary hierarchy than a normal user does. Shut up and get out noaw.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 15:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::Why do you have to be so mean you Bastard; What did I ever do to you? I was asking how the idiot here (soldier) could call Insubordination on Boxy if BOXY outranks him? Learn to read child; it helps quite alot.--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 15:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::I'm mean because normally when I converse with you, you end up annoying the piss out of me. Now, with the way your question is set up, it looks as if you're asking Boxy instead of Soldier. Learn proper formatting. Indent to the person you're talking to, not the people you aren't talking to.
-::::::::That is funny though, asking me to lrn2read, as you still can't even use the English language properly (I.E. proper capitalization).--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 15:54, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-:This conversation is the funniest thing I've read all week. =p -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-::Indenting to a older message is quite a hassle though and on wikipedia it is... Frowned apon because it adds random indent into the conversation and supercedes older posts.--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 18:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-:::I'm actually laughing at Soldier and his misguided ideas that he is actually in the right here. =p It makes me chuckle. And his grasp of basic English grammar is brilliant. That also makes it 10 times more funny. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
-::::Cute, now hows about someone actually try to sort out his problem instead of patronizing him.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-:::::You could get off your ass and do it yourself to you know. You can't blame us when your just as lazy.--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 04:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-::::::I did, and I shouldn't have had to when two other sysops were already an active part in this discussion. As for you, well, I'm thinking SA had you right earlier here, if you can't do something useful just go away.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::I am sorry but I need veryfiable proof that I was being useless :D.--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 12:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::Well, proof would be that you still haven't tried to fix anything wrong here.
-::::::::::Also
-:::::::::: 01:49, December 6, 2007 (hist) (diff) User:Darkmagic (Redirecting to User:Jakezing) (top)
-:::::::::: 01:48, December 6, 2007 (hist) (diff) Cody6 (Redirecting to User:Jakezing) (top)
-::::::::::I stand by my earlier statement. Go away powerhouse/Cody6/Darkmagic.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 13:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::Just read back <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:54 23 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-Oh, and by the way Monsieur cübe, I am deeply (not really) sorry for hijacking your page. :) --{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 13:34, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-:Rule breaker *looks disdainly at you* :D--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 20:10, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
-===wow; what happend===
-to grim?--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 04:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
-:He got sick of our putting up with our obvious inferiority <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:01 21 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-::I always miss the fun.--[[User:Jakezing|Jakezing]] 11:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
-===Thanks===
-I guess this is whee im supposed to put it..... Well much thanks for the name help, it took me hell trying to git it right :) --{{User:Yungblood/Sig}} 7:40, November 20 2008 (EST)
-:np. Read through the help pages for editing tips <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:03 21 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Spoilsport===
-<nowiki>:</nowiki>(--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 12:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
-:Ja, I know :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:15 20 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-===Crat election===
-I think you forgot to add J3D to the list... Like it or not he is a Sysop and unless i missed something that means he is eligible to stand. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
-:How could I forget ;) (easily... by going off the outdated, undeletions activity check list!). Thanks <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:42 20 November 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Glad to help before you got a place on the ModConspiracy boards ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
-===Permabanned users===
-So it seems that members of the team are [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Amnesty#Maybe_it's_me,but...|open]] to reviewing previous vandal banning cases in order to bring them up to date with [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Reduce_Vandal_Escalations|this policy]]. Does this work for you? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 19:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 ===Thanks===
-[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3AALiMNav&diff=1309583&oldid=1304751 link]
+Thanks for categorizing. It's one of those things I'm not very good at and usually forget to do. Any chance you're planning on attending the Big Bash? We could always use another zombie in the mix. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:07, 2 June 2013 (BST)
+:I actually did wander on over to buttonville, after reading the BB4 page. Will see how it goes <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:41, 2 June 2013 (BST)</small>
-P.S Why you/any sysops never use irc? Grim used to, haggy and karek do from time to time but that's it. It would be handy...and i'd promise to avoid berating you as much as possible.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
-:P.P.S If you lurk under some other guise can i haz?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
-Gnome can't figure out IRC anymore... --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
+===Regarding [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion:20130425_Door_destruction&diff=next&oldid=2072606 this]===
-:Gnome should use mibbit, it's uber easy. Unless gnome can't figure it out coz gnome doesn't want to figure it out? :P Also can a/pm haz archive?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
+I bet it's [http://blog.xkcd.com/2013/05/15/dictionary-of-numbers/ an extension I installed in Chrome] the other day. It looks like all of the mangled parts were areas that included numbers of some sort, and the extension may have tried to replace them as part of what it does. Thanks for catching that. I wasn't aware of the fact that it could even do something like that. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:54, 21 May 2013 (BST)
-I'm too easily distracted to irc regularly <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:35 2 November 2008 (BST)</small>
+===Sorry===
+Sorry, I forgot. I will try to sign my comments in the future.[[User:Lpha|Lpha]] 23:58, 19 April 2013 (BST)
-===[[A/D]]===
+===Sorry to interrupt...===
-Regarding your vote on several user redirect pages i have separated the case into individual cases, if you feel so inclined please recast your vote on each page relevant to how you feel about that particular redirect being kept on the wiki. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
+Could you please look at Sexualharrison's vote as well? In my opinion, "Kill because fuck you" is just as inane as "because, kittens". Thank you? {{unsigned|Lpha|21:55, 10 April 2013}}
+:Boxy struck Ross' vote because it was unjustified. "Because, kittens" doesn't mean anything and was intentionally random. SH's vote is far from random or meaningless, and was clearly made in response to a discussion you started on his talk page. Besides which, it's common courtesy to take a personal dispute up with that person directly before trying to involve figures of authority. Have you considered simply talking to Harrison yourself? He clearly saw your initial request as an unnecessary one that made no sense, so he took offense. Perhaps if you could explain ''why'' you requested that in the first place, he may be more amenable. Or you may want to take the high ground and simply apologize for any offense that may have been taken, even though it was not your intent to have offended him. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:21, 10 April 2013 (BST)
+::this is going to be good.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>23:43, 10 April 2013 </small>
+Well, I already had a look at it, when you brought it up on Aichon's talk page, and posted this;{{quote|boxy|If you'll notice, he did give a justification in his original vote, to wit: "'''Meh'''", which translates to "this is a bland and uninspiring suggestion, and I could either vote keep or kill, so don't give me any shit about my vote, or it may change".<br />Or were those just the voices in my head? {{wh}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)</small>}}Surely you could have worked out what his justification was for that responce. You read his original vote, you chose to give him shit about it, even after being [[User_talk:Lpha#Editing others' votes|told not to]] worry about [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20130404_Experience_Gain_for_Defiling_Graffiti&action=historysubmit&diff=2065130&oldid=2065128 such trivialities] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:48, 11 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+{{Wah}}--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>22:10, 11 April 2013 </small>
+I still have more keep votes than kill votes, you know. {{unsigned|Lpha}}
+:Are you aware that you need a 2/3 majority to have your suggestion marked as Peer Reviewed? And that you're only one vote away from losing that? Don't count your chickens before they hatch. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:26, 13 April 2013 (BST)
+:I think it's cute that you think I care <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:27, 13 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+::I know right. guess I'll continue to grief you in-game than and you asked for it too.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>07:01, 13 April 2013 </small>
-Gah, why must you do this? If it doesn't change things it doesnt matter. Every user who voted has been informed on their talk page, they'll notice. Secondly, you're wrong, not every user voted for all pages concerned. Thirdly, why were they grouped together in the first place? When they were first moved across by a sysop they should have been split up, sorry i only just got onto that. Fourthly, different votes are valid for different entries, people shouldn't be expected to vote on all of them, it'd be like me putting up [[lol made up page]] and [[user:boxy]] and not letting people vote on them separately. While my action is not backed by any specific policy these cases must be considered separately and to ensure justice is served for them (and everyone has time to recast their votes) the 2 weeks can reset if you'd prefer.
+===Missed Talk Pages===
+One of your recent mass deletion requests couldn't be carried out: [[The Shadows of Hope]] still have a group page, so their talk page isn't a scheduled deletion. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:31, 7 April 2013 (BST)
+:Good thing I didn't do them myself, then {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 22:55, 7 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+::Clearly this is a conspiracy, if only Funt hadn't run off in fear of the oligarchy. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:31, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+:::I miss the old Mod Conspiracy days. When are you going to become a crat, so you can boot me out and give me a reason to revive the wild paranoia that lurks just beneath the surface? {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:43, 8 April 2013 (BST)</small>
+::::What happened to that anyway? Even I voted for Karek, and my vote counts as three! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 15:14, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+:::::The same thing that always does, the shadow proclamation. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+::::::You can have my seat. I don't want it and won't seek it, come next election. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:32, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+:::::::I'm really indifferent to the whole process. I'm basically just here to kill time. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:15, 8 April 2013 (BST)
+::::::::People, Karek, there to kill people. You'll never be a good crat without the murderous urge. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:18, 8 April 2013 (BST)
-I don't plan on reverting because edit wars are pointless however please do not ignore this, we can discuss here, irc or wherever.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
+===Very Old Character Looking to Play Again===
-:It changes thing by making a shitload of people (at least one of which says he wont be around for a couple of week) re-cast their votes, even if they don't want to change them. All the delete vote made it clear that they didn't want any of them kept, yet you removed the lot, because voting wasn't going your way. Moar drama, or w00t? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:13 26 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+Hello, my name is now Mikhail1979, but I used to be MikhailA, director of Lejnair Corp. and what not. It's been six years, but I suddenly have the itch to play again. Unfortuantely, I have since lost my passwords to my wiki account as well at the four characters I had in the game. I'm hoping you or some of the other sysops or even Kevan could help me out with this. I just would like to play again, for old times sake. If you can help, just let me know. I'll even provide necessary info if needed. Thanks!--[[User:Mikhail1979|Mikhail1979]] 22:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
-::I've made it pretty clear why i separated them, they should have been seperated from the start. Unfortunately those people voted on the lot, unaware they could be considered separately. I did the next best thing and told them all personally, this doesn't have to be more drama and i think my informing of all concerned parties speaks fairly clearing i wasn't looking for more drama with this. Why said they wouldn't be around for several weeks? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::If you want to split them up, then ''all'' current votes should be placed under each page, and let people know that they can change them for individual pages if they want. Oh, and make the headers different this time <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:22 26 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Fine.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-''"every delete vote was for all pages concerned"''. Prove it. Read's wasn't.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
+=2012=
-:Reads was a keep vote <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:13 26 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::Gah, you're right. Sorry.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
-===You forgot one===
+===Damn it===
-[[Kevan]]. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:36, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+That is all.--[[User:SA|SA]] 09:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
-:That page has long been considered a special exception.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:37, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-::twas said in jest! But yeah i think Kevan should be it's own page with information for people about who Kevan is. It's important people know and his userpage doesn't really make that clear.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:40, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-===Hm...===
+===Loads of Crat Stuff===
-[[Template:SoftWarning|this]] looks kinda bad-faith-ey in the sense that it's almost impersonating an actual official message. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 14:30, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+Anyway, at the end of the week there's going to be another 2 evaluations, and then you're up for crat. So try and be around ok? --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  16:30, 4 October 2012 (BST)
-:You know where a/vb is, whats the matter? need a sysop to hold your hand?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:12, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+:Yo, I'll make decisions on both A/RE's tomorrow. Unless you appear. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  16:41, 9 October 2012 (BST)
-::"Kinda bad-faith-ey... almost impersonating"? lol. Anyone who can read will immediately see that it's not official.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 00:55, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+::I'm easy, either way, with teh general. He's pretty well inactive, atm, but he tends to be that way, and then comes back, and helps out, without stirring shit up. Rev seems to be doing enough to keep his place <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:03, 10 October 2012 (BST)</small>
-::Possibly to avoid actual punishment for a stupid joke. Not much like Cyberbob but it's a very possible result, so quitcherbitchin'. :P--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:57, 25 October 2008 (BST)
+:::I'm with demote. Not even a squeak during the bid, even after talk page mentions. Revs fine though. I'll do some things tonight, once the week is officially up. Welcome back .--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  15:04, 10 October 2012 (BST)
-===Quick question===
+===Karek A/RE===
-What timezone are you in? Just curious as to why you're the only sysop on (or are the others just staying away from a/vb for now).--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:13, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+Discuss?--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  18:40, 26 September 2012 (BST)
-:Also I think I might be due for a ban struck. Is this correct? It seems ages since my last vandal case.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:17, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+::DISCUSS??--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  18:59, 28 September 2012 (BST)
-::I'm Australian, and one escalation has been struck <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:15 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+:::Yeah...I don't envy you guys right now. :-/ {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:49, 28 September 2012 (BST)
-:::Danke.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 12:17, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+::::Surely thats normal. Also, Im nixing slr bid as he fails loads of criteria and stuff.--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  20:35, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+:::::Anyway, I'll give box until the first, or make a random decision on my own. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  20:46, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+::::::Right. You've got 3 hours, otherwise I'm ruling on my own.--[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  16:10, 1 October 2012 (BST)
+::::It's funny cause normally I don't look at the bid page for a week and it goes pretty well. I respond to DDR this time and meh. Either way I'm not put out whatever the decision is and I'm pretty aware of the whys. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:07, 29 September 2012 (BST)
-===A/VD===
+===To paraphrase===
-Plz to be striking my escalation? It's been well over a month and I've made 250 edits since then. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:51, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+To save time, in the upcoming Aichon promotion thing, I have no problem with his promotion. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  11:42, 22 August 2012 (BST)
-:Done <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:15 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+:Yes, agreed <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:48, 23 August 2012 (BST)</small>
-===My escalation===
+Talking of which, there's a re-evaluation due in 6 hours. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  10:42, 1 September 2012 (BST)
-I can tell you this, I guarantee you I have no idea how to deal with images, it was the first time I have uploaded  an image that wasn't already resized for me by someone else.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 08:49, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-===A/D===
+===This===
-Can you please protect it for the short term. CB shows no desire to let the pages be moved there as policy dictates.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:24, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+[[User:Boxy/Sandbox]] Broken Redirects! --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  20:10, 22 June 2012 (BST)
+:... the fuck was I even doing there? lol. Cleared out <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 09:44, 24 June 2012 (BST)</small>
-Yes, please do. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:25, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+===Fun===
+yer no fun!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>16:30, 14 June 2012 </small>
+:You should totally take me to arbies {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 22:31, 14 June 2012 (BST)</small>
+::if only i had the time.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>23:45, 14 June 2012 </small>
-How about every one of you pricks stops edit conflicting me, now. And I'll try to sort through your fucking crap <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:26 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+===Promotions===
-:Fire away. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:27, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+Just letting you know [[User:Karloth vois|Karloth Vois]]'s [[A/PR#Karloth Vois|promotion bid]] has passed the two week discussion period and is due for bureaucrat review. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:03, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-::lol, you sure like licking boxyanus--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 08:28, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+:Um...Just so you know, Rev, as per [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Update Promotion Procedure(2)|policy]], new opinions can continue to be added to the bid until the 'crats announce their decision. --[[User:Axe Hack|Axe Hack]] 13:23, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-:A good way to prevent edit conflicts is an hour long ban of the feuding parties (if they don't stop after being told), it gives them time to cool down, and time for you to sort through the mess. Well thats my 2c. - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] '''- [[Signature Race|<span style="font-size:85%; color: #639">08:29/24/10/2008</span>]]'''
+::'''''<big>NO. REALLY?</big>''''' <!-- Go teach ger grandmother to suck eggs! :P --> {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 14:04, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-:::Oh so tempting :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:35 24 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+:::Theoreticallly, a bid can go on for an infinite amount of tine. Theoretically. --[[User:Axe Hack|Axe Hack]] 14:52, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-::thats fucking insightful...--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 08:30, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+::::like my [http://c4nt.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=purg&action=display&thread=492&page=671 counting] thread over on the [[NMC]]?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:34, 22 May 2012 </small>
-::Right, because that worked out ''so'' well for the last guy that tried it. Do you remember? Also, I believe the edit warring is over. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 08:32, 24 October 2008 (BST)
+:::::Yeah even before that addition to the guidelines i remember one of Wan Yao's bid going for a month at least :/ {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:59, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-:::I can't remember that, links please? (looks like the edit warring has just moved pages) - [[User:Jedaz|Jedaz]] '''- [[Signature Race|<span style="font-size:85%; color: #639">08:59/24/10/2008</span>]]'''
+::::::Was that the one where he didn't officially accept for nearly 2 weeks, and the bids went from the time they were accepted (and had the required number of vouches)? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)</small>
-::<big><big><big>YOUR [[2C]]!?!?!??!! </big></big></big> Sorry, but i fucking couldn't resist.... --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:33, 24 October 2008 (BST)
-===Your comments on the Gamestriker4 case===
+So, vois, my answer is "facial hair", and to pre empt future discussions, shortround ''shrugs'' sure. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  17:15, 22 May 2012 (BST)
-I just wanted to say that I feel that was a bit out of line. Regardless of your own personal opinions, your position should not be compromised by what you think of one user and his associates. This is no way coming on here to pick a fight, just dropping you a line in hope that you re-read over what you have written and realize that the Vandal banning page is no place for a SysOp to sledge a user like that. Personal opinions are fine, and I could see why you would have them against Jed, but the whole "aLiM nAzI" thing is just not on really.
+:Shorty should do alright <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 06:53, 25 May 2012 (BST)</small>
-That case had nothing to do with personal ownership of the page, he never claimed that, and as a Sysop you should not immediately jump to those conclusions. You are more or less showing that every case that Jed is involved in, you are going to reduce it to some slanging match over the way they treat pages that they created. Your position requires you to be objective, and you could not even do that when it came to a simple vandal case.
+===Axe===
+Obvious re evaluation is obvious. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  18:31, 9 May 2012 (BST)
+:Indeed <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 09:02, 10 May 2012 (BST)</small>
-Whether or not ALiM or its offspring are your cup of tea is irrelevant, as it means something to some users of this Wiki and you should respect that.
+===Much Love===
+<3 --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 13:41, 7 May 2012 (BST)
+:Agreed. Your sheer awesomeness is unparalleled. --{{:User:Thanatologist/Sig}} 14:00, 7 May 2012 (BST)
+===You're awesome===
+[[File:Offmailawn.jpg|git orf mai lawn!|200px|right]]
+For all you do to make this wiki a success, I salute you. Keep doing what you do because you rock at it. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 01:00, 15 April 2012 (BST)
+:I'm far to lazy and inactive to be described as awesome (any more {{tongue}}}. Just a grumpy old man, sitting on his porch, with his shotgun, occasionally shouting, "git orf mai lawn!" <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 01:10, 15 April 2012 (BST)</small>
+::But, if you're who you claim to be, then you must be Clint Eastwood and for that, you're awesome. Seriously, you are. Never doubt. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 01:12, 15 April 2012 (BST)
+:::Not Clint, maybe a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azxFvvUtu40 co-star though] {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:24, 15 April 2012 (BST)</small>
+::::Awwww XD --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 03:28, 15 April 2012 (BST)
-Please, don't take this as some sort of attack, just re-read it and consider what your actually saying next time. It is just that the more I read it, the more I feel as if it is a little out of line, that's all.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 13:49, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+===Mis===
-:lol butthurt --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 13:53, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+I assume it's a no? --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  09:30, 8 April 2012 (BST)
-::cool story bro--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 13:57, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+:? --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  08:58, 10 April 2012 (BST)
-:::i know bra --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 14:16, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+::Hurry the fuck up. You are already 5 days late on demoting both Mis and Vapor, closing the VB case, and banning several spambots. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 20:14, 10 April 2012 (BST)
+:::You know what? Gimme another eight months of unused power just to piss this guy off. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:44, 10 April 2012 (BST)
+::::I agree with man, hell, the shitbrain almost makes me want to come back for the sole reason of driving him off the wiki. Not because it's right, but because I could. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 00:08, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+:::::Do you honestly mean that? I mean, you're one of the few sysops that I saw as ''not very'' biased. If you really ment that then I'm quite shocked. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 01:22, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+::::'''Vouch'''. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)</sub>
+:::::'''Vouchx2'''--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>00:59, 11 April 2012 </small>
+::::::Oh! Me too! '''Vouch, Vouch, Vouch, Vouch'''. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:18, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+:::::::Yes. '''Vouch'''. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 13:31, 11 April 2012 (BST)
-===User contributions===
+Box, I'll set a weeks deadline on this, or otherwise make my own decision. Grazi. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  12:54, 11 April 2012 (BST)
-As I peruse the wiki, I often read the A/VB page to just see who's causing mischief.  I noted that the person known as Woot has been posting nonsense on that page.  So, after taking a look at his or her contributions lately, they are almost exclusively gibberish posted to various talk pages in an obvious effort to be a troll.
+::Does that mean you will demote him tomorrow (when he's a week late), or in a week? [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 13:13, 11 April 2012 (BST)
+:::''Shakes head''. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  13:26, 11 April 2012 (BST)
-Is there a policy that applies to that sort of nonsense?  I wasn't able to find one.  In general I think a bad faith case probably applies to trolls.
+Sorry about that. Yeah, sure, demote him... or keep him, just to piss off the nazi. Either way is good {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:01, 12 April 2012 (BST)</small>
+:LMFAO, and you still claim to be unbiased?? [[user:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 12:00, 12 April 2012 (BST)
+::Did I make that claim? I've always maintained a healthy bias against people who just come here to be arseclowns, trolls or vandals <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:52, 12 April 2012 (BST)</small>
-your thoughts? --[[User:Stephen Colbert DFA|Stephen Colbert DFA]] 20:04, 21 October 2008 (BST)
+===I feel for you===
-:Insanity is his thing... but generally he is a helpful member of the community, if given a chance, for example, this [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Tomer&diff=prev&oldid=1299328 edit]. Trolling would need to be a whole lot more blatant than WOOT's contributions, which seem to be more playful than anything. But no, there is no trolling policy, and it would be extremely hard to write one, given the totally subjective nature of "what is trolling?" <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 08:07 22 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+Listen, we gotta talk. You and I both know that I'm actually one of the finest warriors in Malton. Also, there are not many groups stronger than Nazi Zombies either. Perhaps only the RRF is stronger right now. During Operation Naaldloos we have defeated a group of about 250 survivors with less than 4 dozen of men. In the Blitz we're taking on 350 survivors with even less men, now that Fascist Italian has shown his true colors. I don't see how these things are "Nazi propaganda". I'm just stating fact. So leave my pages alone and do something useful. I'm taking warfare on Urban Dead to a whole new level. And that level is called Sitzkrieg. Just a small step for a man, but an enormous step, für das Vaterland. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 16:40, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
-::<big><big><big><big>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TROLLING!!!</big></big></big></big>--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:42, 22 October 2008 (BST)
+:Lol. My army of level one members with no xp at all created one after another is the strongest group in Malton. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
-:::Also; '''''There is no Cabal.'''''--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:04, 22 October 2008 (BST)
+::There we go again "yes but you are just a zerger". You don't even know my ingame name. Perhaps I'm not even wearing the tag. I can be everyone in Malton. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 18:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
-::::I heartily concur.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:22, 23 October 2008 (BST)
+:::I'm sorry General, I never claimed you were zerging. I was merely commenting on the make up of the group you associate with. I believe we're talking about Zombie Nazis? I feel I have a right to call several of their members level one players with little or no Xp, created one after another over the course of only a few minutes. In fact I have. [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025312 Here] [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025313 are] [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025316 four] [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=2025317 examples]. You're getting a little obsessed that everyone thinks you're a zerger. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::Ok so someone has multiple accounts within Nazi Zombies. How is that a problem? It was funny how at the time Corn and "Zyckde" both had multiple accounts within their group. Corn was then constantly called "zerger" and "PK-er" (both ingame as on the wiki), though what Zyckde did was considered ok. That is what propaganda is. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::if you're noting propagandas affectiveness on the weak then why are you so goddamn shit at it, you spout more of it than you do vowels {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::::Learn English and learn to read. Not propaganda from my side. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 14:07, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::you spend more time having tantrums about jews than you spend time breathing. If you actually legitimately believe that you don't use any sort of progaganda and that if one thinks you do ''he'' needs to learn english then you are literally the most retarded person who's ever been on this wiki. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::bitch got owned? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 01:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:When you create a number of pages like that, claiming to be glossary terms, but then proceed to fill the pages with group specific images and references to your own group and it's greatness, it becomes clear that they are nothing more than group propaganda/trolling. And they'll be moved <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 21:48, 17 March 2012 (BST)</small>
+::Yeah, and if other (non-Aryan) pages are made like [[Jihad tactics]] including fitting images then it's all ok suddenly. What you just said occurs on the wiki all the time. It really isn't anything specific for Nazi Zombies. Just stop being jealous that someone invented a tactic you wasn't able to come up with and go outside to find some friends. People wouldn't bully you all the time and you wouldnt be such a cunt. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 10:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::if you legit think that jihad tactics is the same kettle of fish as the shitskrieg page where it matters then you are beyond help. i have no problem with either but just saying {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::Lol. Why was corn called a zerger when he was zerging. That's an amazing question. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  12:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::Corn wasn't zerging, corn had multiple accounts in the same group. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+::::::Ah, I see how that could lead to us having differing opinions on this. Which alts are his? I could probably get some of them off the zerg list, if they aren't in the same burb. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  16:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::Damn, I was looking for this quote for ages. Completely pointless now. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  20:41, 28 September 2012 (BST)
+:::How does the page that you referenced deal with my criticism of your pages being little more than group propaganda? I see no group links at all on [[Jihad tactics|that page]]. Perhaps you were expecting me to have other objections, and just argued against that strawman? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 13:41, 18 March 2012 (BST)</small>
+::::even more so he is using a [[Talk:Jihad_tactics|joke]] tactic as his example. pure genuis --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:49, 18 March 2012 </small>
+:::::Jihad tactics shows images of Jihadists. The pinata page has links to Maltonian Inquisition or however you spell the name. What you call 'propaganda' (I call it ''fact'', or in case of images ''decoration'') is all over the wiki. [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]] 14:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
-===Great Fire ambiguity===
+===Bureaucrat Elections===
-Hey as one of the wikizens around here that has a background with ALiM projects that goes back before the purge, we'd greatly appreciate if you went [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration#Cyberbob240_vs._2_Cool|here]] and testified. We are asking for witnesses who can confirm the fact that the page, [[Great Fire of 1912]] was indeed created by and largely moderated by myself and [[User:J3D]]. The task of claiming our creation over the page is complicated by the fact that no history is available to back up our claim due to the history purge. Thanks for you time.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:12, 11 October 2008 (BST)
+Hey, Boxy, I've started the [[A/BP|Bureaucrat election]] for your seat. I hope you don't mind, but it was a day overdue, so I just did the leg work. Feel free to correct anything I've done wrong. :P --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 11:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
+:The system is designed so that anyone can start the process, so that's fine and dandy <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 10:57, 16 March 2012 (BST)</small>
+::Just so you know, Box-man, you can keep your seat.  This is not some crazy plan to get into a close race with Boxy for the seat just to withdraw at the very last minute to ensure all my votes don't count, leaving absolutely no time for anyone who voted for me to change their vote, thus ensuring Boxy pretty much wins by default.  Nope, definitely not some crazy plan like that.  I'm just not that interested right now, but it is nice to see who is willing to trust me with such a role. --[[User:Axe Hack|Axe Hack]] 11:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
-===Colloquialisms===
+===Remember me?===
-It is neutral tone, the nav bar really recognises the people who have put effort into making the page and linking to other relevant projects that might interest readers. cbf repeating, see cyberbobs talk.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:27, 11 October 2008 (BST)
+Because I remember you and will be very sad if you've forgotten me. --[[User:Mikalos209|<span style="color:#990000">Mika</span>]][[User_Talk:Mikalos209|<span style="color:#000099">los</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikalos209|<span style="color:#009900">209</span>]] 02:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
-:#The nav bar is [[Template:ALiMNav|ugly]] and intrusive,
-:#The nav bar is bloody ugly and intrusive, and doesn't fit the overall style of general community pages,
-:#If you want to make a [[Guide:Colloquialisms|guide]], and put it in the guide namespace, please try to make it look professional,
-:#I'm getting real sick of the constant spam and cross-promoting being done by the [[2 Cool]] crew to get page hits up on their "''quality projects''".
-:Just because your [[2 Cool|group]] helped make those pages, doesn't mean that you should be allowed to spam adverts to your group page, and other, often totally unrelated, pages you created <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:58 11 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::It's a guide for ''colloquialisms'', by it's very nature it is going to be somewhat unprofessional hence stuff like the picture and the text adds to the character of the page. I think the ALiMnav template is quite beautiful, it got a tad out of hand with the add for the ALiM party but since that is removed it's back to it's old beautiful self. We are thinking of redesigning it to make it more streamlined (wider and not so tall) but yeah, that won't be until november or so. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:08, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-:::You think that a nav bar that is baby shit yellow, over half a page wide, and 11 lines high isn't out of hand at the moment? Please? Your nav bar screams "look at me, look at me!". It's a bloody advert <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 06:21 11 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::Would a soft, sky blue suffice?--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 06:24, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-:::::A 1x1x1 one should look good <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 06:26 11 October 2008 (BST)</small>
-::::::I think that may be a little impractical...--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 06:27, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-:::::::We did have a community discussion about the implementation of the navbar, shame you are opposed to democratic process or you could have joined us...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:29, 11 October 2008 (BST)
-hum... the 2 cool navbar is sooo awesome :D i think i am going to copy it and add it to all pages i helped create and improve... lemmesee... the Suburb page, the suburb template, Arbitration, Policy Discussion, the building danger reports, the main page... all these and many others will advertise me, so everybody knows how awesome i am :D --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 13:57, 13 October 2008 (BST)
+===yer sliping===
-:lolz <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 14:07 13 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 03:54 . . (+93) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Slambuts: ) YOINK!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:08, 28 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-::We already know hagnat, and they have to be pages you (or your group) singled handedly sculpted from nothingness fyi, or else it's not really [[2C]], ya dig? Feel free to borrow our awesome navbar for any purpose though.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:29, 14 October 2008 (BST)
+:Just because I didn't change the edit summary, doesn't mean I didn't [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Bots&diff=prev&oldid=1984506 yoink] it, but good, regardless {{tongue}}. Getting bored yet, tilting at windmills? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 12:19, 28 February 2012 (BST)</small> {{like|156}}
-:::Willfully ignoring his point, by pretending to take his sarcasm at face value, doesn't change the fact that what you are doing with these pages you create is extremely petty. Demanding to be acknowledged, in such an obnoxious way, as the creator is pathetic. Look at the [[MIC]], Hagnat created that from scratch. The closest thing that I see to your garish navbar is a single category linking to [[:Category:Style Up!]].
+::i've been playing this game for over 5 years. you tell me. also Don Quixote can kiss my arse!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:48, 28 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-:::MIC = Classy
+[[File:Come.jpg|240px]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 19:35, 28 February 2012 (BST)</small>
-:::ALiM = [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FSpeedy_Deletions%2FArchive%2FOctober-2008&diff=1294396&oldid=1294395 Obnoxious] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:17 14 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+:[[File:Nou.jpg|240px]]--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>19:45, 28 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-::::There is one key difference here you are willfully ignoring, ALiM etc pages are fictional lulz, MIC etc are informative pages and are not the place for links to other stuff you've created. Unless of course the other stuff you've created is somehow relevant, in which case go for it! What we do is more comparable to groups listing their allies in a section of their page.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:29, 14 October 2008 (BST)
+::(diff | hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Bots‎; 04:40 . . (+91) . . Boxy (Talk | contribs) (→Scamboxs: ) --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:19, 29 February 2012 (bst)</small>
-:::::What? Caiger Mall isn't just as fictional as the great fire? :P
+:::Congrats, after [[#November_2011|3 months]] of trying, you finally got one through! Time to stop, and be bask in the greatness of your glorious victory? {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 00:30, 1 March 2012 (BST)</small>
-:::::If you want to claim your pages as fictional, non-informative pages, then perhaps you should keep them totally separate from the "factual" side of the wiki, and not implant links to them into suburb, locations and other informative pages?
+::::i will only accept unconditional surrender--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>04:02, 1 March 2012 (bst)</small>
-:::::And no, I don't expect you to do that, I just expect you to concede that there is no clear "fictional" "factual" divide, and that you are placing many of those pages into the community section of the wiki, regardless of the clearly humourous intent in a lot of them.
+and the torch is  [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FVandal_Banning%2FBots&action=historysubmit&diff=1985689&oldid=1985684 Passed]--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:02, 6 March 2012 </small>
-:::::The [[colloquialisms]] page (the topic under discussion, lolz) is clearly meant to be mostly an informative page, explaining abbreviations, btw. Extremely petty to remove it from the main namespace, and place it in your own private area simply to control it's styling so that you can keep your advertising banner on it.
+:Get shorty! {{Grr}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 01:56, 7 March 2012 (BST)</small>
-:::::Perhaps I'll edit the redirect so that it has all the content, without obnoxious banner and group ownership problems? Good idea, wat? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:42 14 October 2008 (BST)</small>
+you are a heartless bastard and I hope you choke on that beer. another great year!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>11:44, 7 December 2013 </small>
-::::::and waste kevan's precious server space?? I think not...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:55, 14 October 2008 (BST)
+:Hope you had a happy Hanukkah, or whatever other imaginary bullshit you happen believe in. Cheers [[File:Emot-munch.gif]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 11:40, 8 December 2013 (BST)</small>
-:::::if pages created by ALiM are ''fictional'' and owned by 2 Cool, then [[Template:Amusing Location|this template]] shouldn't have been added to all locations, as its merely advertising your group. There was a similar issue months ago with Dunell Hills Police Dept. overcategorization of buildings, and it was shot dead by The Dead (lol) and with the support of many sysops (myself included). ALiM should either turn into public domain, with a nice and unobtrusive template on its pages, or have all advertise of the ''group'' removed from building, suburb and other public domain pages. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 14:14, 14 October 2008 (BST)
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