Talk:Dulston Alliance/Archive

The following is the Talk archive for the Dulston Alliance. All posting located here are old... possibly very old. If you're here and you're reading them you must be awfully bored. But hey, have fun!

Joining the Alliance

Membership Request: Zombies off My GRASS! (ZoMG)

Request Status: DENIED
Reason?: Several Dulston Alliance members voiced concern with either ZoMG's posted policy on punishing AWOL members or mentioned that they have not seen ZoMG in action, thus putting to question the group's active role in helping defend the suburb more than average individual survivors. If ZoMG wishes to re-apply its request to join the Alliance the group's current leader must do so again by deleting this request and posting it again at the top of the queue along with any new information. The Alliance recommends that acceptance would be more readily reconsidered if ZoMG shows a more active (higher profile) role within the suburb (via radio announcements, spraypainting barricade policy tags in buildings, assisting survivors, and generally helping out in high profile locations like the mall). If you feel your group has done so already, or has been misjudged by this ruling, you are free to challenge it by making your case on the Dulston Alliance forum.

Current Size: 7
Experience Levels: 1-16
Group Wikipage: ZoMG

ZoMG is a small group, currently with 7 active and accounted for members. We are basically a group of friends who decided banding together would help us, well, live. Our group has a variety of levels, from level 16 to level 1. We'd appreciate it if you would take the time to consider allowing our group to join the Dulston Alliance. --Joe O'Wood TALK CONTRIBS UD 17:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Membership Request: SPIDERMAN

Request Status: CANCELLED
Reason?: Efforts to contact the group and inquire on their current status within the suburb, let along the city, were ignored. The conclusion drawn is that this group no longer exists. Should they ever return they are asked to resubmit their claim for membership into the Alliance.

Current Size: Currently 4+
Experience Levels: Currently lower than 3
Group Wikipage: SPIDERMAN

--MT 13:48, 1 August 2006 (BST)

Membership Request: The Last Stand

Request Status: ACCEPTED
Current Size: ~14
Experience Levels: 1-20
Group Wikipage: The Last Stand

My group wishes to align with the DA in hopes of forming a greater resistance to the inevitable Big Bash attack. So far we have been using the lower level members to heal up our real zombie killers. If you are interested in letting us join, check our wikipage. I am [[1]], leader of The Last Stand.

This is The Last Stands temparary leader, while Jack is gone, i am only checking up on stuff, and as you might tell, im not very experianced, im a low level player, but ive been playin for a long time(kinda sad. hu?) But, im trying to check the wiki every week. sorry to inconvenance you-Xig2 p.s. The S.A.R.G. has been attacking me when ever im in Pescodside, im looking for Lemonhead7t7 and keep getting killed by them. their a pain.

This is Xig2, im yet again the temp leader for The Last Stand, and i would like to request membership for my group back into The Dulston Alliance, thank you! ---Xig2

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Ruben Kincaid

Ruben's been spotted cooperating in the siege of the Whitlock Bldg., so we can only assume that he's in some way affiliated (a spy, most likely) to the IS or MOB. Therefore, I've changed his group affiliation to reflect that. Thanks! Doctor How 21:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

iWitness-report for said activity inside Whitlock.-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]^☼ T 12:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Shiny new template

Got a template for you guys to put up: {{The Northern Regiment (Allied)}} --Blanemcc 09:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

All requests for alliances should really be posted on the forum. --Mobius187 8:45 AM, November 20 2007 (EST)

Basslips

MIA
Just mentioning that he should be changed on the Black List to semi-active, or inactive. As I am not a member of any particular DA group, I was just putting this out there so someone can look into it. --Mikhos 21:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm honored

You specifically named Druboo in your news. I'm touched.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 21:04, 10 August 2007 (BST)

Your antics make for quality news! :D Most of the news in Dulston is pretty boring so I like to spice things up. The usual zombies and PKers killing people is old news. I always found it amusing to drop by the RG spot one of your latest PKer reports whenever Ed or Fish executes Druboo. Nothing to argue about, mind you, as we both know you're well within your rights to report anyone who kills Druboo. But still, you get special mention for all your hard work.

If you're wondering why your constant claims of being a bounty hunter are ignored it's because you have been branded a member of DORIS and the Black List is for the most part very unforgiving. But I'm sure you knew that. If getting executed for "no reason" is really annoying you feel free to take it up with the Alliance. If it's simply amusing to you, then feel free to ignore it. Your call.

On a side note, if you want to really complain I suggest opening up a topic in the Alliance forum, otherwise this won't get the attention it deserves. No one but me usually reads this section. Translation: I'm a sad panda. ;) --Mobius187 August 13 2007, 8:01 AM (EST)

Oh, I've got an account on the forums, but as soon as I made it, it was banned. I guess thats cuz they prolly thought I would be a dirty dirty spy.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 20:38, 13 August 2007 (BST)

Hey sad panda, here's another one :-) I just can't get myself to delete this page from my watchlist. I must read EVERYTHING. (Though I have nothing to say in that matter). Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 19:02, 13 August 2007 (BST)

Good, then from now on you should reply to any such posts placed here, since you're actually still a member of the Alliance. I don't want people to think that I'm actually addressing their concerns when I don't even work here anymore. --Mobius187 August 13 2007, 2:22 PM (EST)

In consideration of the fact that you don't work here anymore, you're still quite present :-) I'll try to do my best, but you're leaving a gap that's just too big for me to fill in. Maybe with the aid of PsychoLychee who has returned from his journey I'll be able to at least approximate your outstanding efforts for the DA. Honour to whom honour is due. Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 00:46, 14 August 2007 (BST)

I totally support the expression "outstanding efforts" and feel quite sad seeing you go. I especially appreciate how you helped most of (not only) Dulston's buildings to more life. And yes, although I know that buildings do NOT live, I just wanted to start posting here (I hope I'll be forgiven for being a bit off-topic).-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]^☼ T 10:43, 15 August 2007 (BST)

Thanks for all the compliments, I just try to... wait a minute, weren't we discussing Druboo or something? I think the topic was derailed. On the matter of access to the forum being revoked, I certainly can't speak for that but AnimeSucks's guess that he was banned for being a "DORIS spy" is probably an accurate guess. If I close my eyes I can see Ed pointing an accusing finger at him. Ha-ha! My alternate suggestion then would be that you (AnimeSucks) attempt to reach the BAR/Knight Watchmen instead via the BAR's forum, which even has Guest access. As the BAR agreed to hunt DORIS I'm sure Druboo was added to their list (probably by me no less). If you can reason with them about this then maybe they'll remove Druboo from their own list and not hunt him (not to say they have yet). Which in turn is probably a good start towards convincing the other local bounty hunters to stop doing it. You could also remove DORIS from your group affiliation... I mean it really is salting the wounds and not helping differentiate Druboo from "PKer scum" (which is a term of endearment). I'm full of helpful advice. --Mobius187 August 15 2007, 8:06 AM (EST)

As a founding member of DORIS, I simply just couldn't remove the name from the character, that would be an affront to everything I helped create :D It's not that big of a deal, to be pk'd. It's a game, and a lot of people take it way too seriously. It's actually kinda fun to wake up to a new day and find you haven't been killed in Dulston by the dirty dirty pking FOTFL ;)--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 19:42, 15 August 2007 (BST)

Wait a minute... I thought you joined the Cannibal Corps? Or at least that what your group affiliation was until about a month ago. But yeah, UD is just a game and I also find it odd when people become upset over what happens in it. People need to relax more. While I may no longer play UD that doesn't stop me from wishing everyone a good time. So, have fun! --Mobius187 August 17 2007, 7:56 AM (EST)

Well, Druboo was originally Cannibal Corps (which I also helped create), then DORIS showed up, and I moved Druboo over to there, then when it died I moved her back to Cannibal Corps.... now with the resurgence, Druboo is back in DORIS for the time being... heh.. complicated.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 22:59, 17 August 2007 (BST)

The Headbangers of Malton

Hi there, I just noticed that Louda of H.o.M. is on your shit list, which is good, he should be there. As the leader of H.o.M., I just wanted to put the word out there that we are a group with two factions, both dedicated pro-human players and dedicated pro-zombie players. Louda is the latter. Please try to check our profiles before offing us, there will be a short indicator that states whether the H.o.M. member is pro human or pro zombie. We're not all bad. There's a lengthy explanation to our group dynamic, but I'll just sum up by saying we made the split because, for a while, there were too few zombies to shoot at. The two factions are non cooperative and work in separate suburbs, so there is no chance mistaking a Headbanger for a Deadbanger. --Stickman 19:27, 23 July 2007 (BST)

I see this was never replied to... not a surprise as the Alliance these days prefers to take posts on their forum. Your group should have nothing to worry about as most cases are dealt with on a "per person" basis. If you are concerned that the Alliance is targeting your entire group feel free to confirm it by checking to see if your group is listed among those on its Black List (bottom/last link) or in their forum. I have personally not heard anything along these lines though to date. --Mobius187 July 31 2007, 7:54 AM (EST)

King Murek's Army

Hello, I am a member of King Murek's Army. King Murek's Army is a group of high level survivors, and we are already on very good terms with Friends of Featherstone Libary. As a Peascodside survivor group, with aims to maintain a revive point, provide a universaly accesable safehouse and medical station and provide some protection from zombies and various murdering groups around Pescodside we believe that our aims and the Dulston Alliance's aims are similar enough for us to consider you our allies. We hope you feel the same, and would see fit to sign an alliance. --Twohundered 22:51, 29 June 2007 (BST)

I will post your treaty request in the Lodge. I should have a reply within less than a week. By treaty I take it you are refering to a Non-Aggression Pact (a low-level treaty). --Mobius187 June 29 2007, 11:08 PM (EST)

Ok, thank you. Where is the lodge, exactly? Or is that not important to know, and yes, whichever level of treaty benifits us both the most.--Twohundered 10:08, 30 June 2007 (BST)

In answer to your questions, the Lodge is a private section of the Dulston Alliance forum used primarily for voting and discussing large scale decisions that effect the entire Alliance. If your ally status is granted you will given access to the Lounge section of the Alliance forum, which is a private section for all Alliance non-member allies. Also all treaties can be found detailed here. --Mobius187 June 30 2007, 9:45 AM (EST)

Soooo.... Are we allies then?--Twohundered 21:01, 7 July 2007 (BST)

Ah, sorry about that. Killing zombies can prove very distracting. There were no objections to forming an alliance and the FotFL spoke up for your leader in terms of dealing with traitors. As such, King Mure's Army may now consider itself allies with the Dulston Alliance. You're free to use the ally template as well (right here). --Mobius187 July 8 2007, 7:50 PM (EST)

Well, that's fantastic! If you ever need any backup in Peascodside, or dulston, give us a call, and we will send whoever we can spare.--Twohundered 07:06, 9 July 2007 (BST)

MPDG

...is a neutral service providing coordination and basic information on the status of PDs across Malton, created thanks to the joint efforts of the Malton Police Department and the Malton Hospitals Group. I would be grateful if the Dulston Alliance would like to contribute to the 'cause' by adding your groups to the list and put the MPDG template on your pages. More info on our page.

	Malton Police Departments Group
	This user or group supports the MPDG in their attempt at restoring law and order in Malton.

Regards.--MaxFloyd 11:49, 17 June 2007 (BST)

Why exactly is "neutral" always Anti-PK? Last I check, that's not neutral... However, Maris Viridis would GLADLY help telling you guys the status of PDs we come across, to keep things neutral.

--SgtBop 01:57, 18 June 2007 (BST)

The matter of the MPDG is being discussed on the Dulston Alliance forum. In response to Dulston's resident PKer leader, SgtBop, I do believe you will find that the MPDG actually is neutral. I've read their entire wikipage and did not find even mention of PKers. For that matter they didn't even include the standard "Report PKing" template (common with most police-oriented wikipages) or the Anti-PKer Category. They appear neutral because the purpose of the wikipage appears to be simply to report which groups claim to run each police department across Malton. I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that they're anti-PKer. --Mobius187 June 18 2007, 7:58 AM (EST)

Simple. (Besides the fact that groups are very black and white PK or non-PK) Murder is against the law. PKers are murders. MPDG is to uphold law. THEREFORE... -- A still very bored SgtBop 19:22, 23 June 2007 (BST)

I'm of the opinion that the MPDG is not a group, and therefore its service is neutral. Are you implying that the MHG is also not neutral and that all hospitals are either pro-PKer or anti-PKer? Next you'll inform me that Malton Rail is also anti-PKer, when all I see being done on these wikipages is simply listing the status of locations. I'm sure if a PKer group claimed a PD for its own they could list themselves as controlling it on the MHPD. But then again, how many PKer groups try to hold resource buildings? I don't recall any trying that. --Mobius187 June 23 2007, 10:12 PM (EST)

Freelance Military Operations

Hello there! As a representative of FMO i would like to notify you like our mercenaries are always open to contracts! please just drop us a line on the wiki or our forums! Thanks --Kaisuke 22:27, 12 April 2007 (BST)

Certainly. I would like to inquire whether you would be able to provide a specific list of "support" and "resources" that you might request in exchange for your services or whether your group prefers to define these details on a contract-by-contract basis during negotiations. The reason for this request is that due to the self-governance employed by the Alliance your contracts would best be handled or confirmed with a specific member group rather than with the organization as a whole. For example, if you request medical aid in order to supply bounty hunting services against 2 PKers, then you would need confirmation from a group like the DITPS as their group specifically being the ones who would need to agree to provide said medical services. Not that they are in charge of paying contracted services, nor are they solely in charge of the Alliances medical resources. They are only the most capable in that area. Of course I am not officially connected to the Alliance or any of its member groups so you can confirm any of these details with them on the Alliance's official forum. --Mobius187 April 13 2007, 8:23 AM (EST)

Sweet bro

We'd love to join the DA. Count us in. I'll add your banner. See you round Santlerville maybe? --Nallan of the BBK - 2.33pm, 12th April 2007 (AEST)

Glad to hear it. As I'm only a... boy what would I be considered? A good-will ambassador for Dulston? Yeah, that's about right. Where was I? As yes, anyway as I was saying I have no official standing in the Dulston Alliance, but while patrolling the UD Wiki I came across your positive remarks about the Alliance and brought it to their attention. After all what makes the Alliance strong are its members and its allies. As your group is over in Santlerville and the Dulston Alliance currently works in Dulston, Pescodside, Rhodenbank, and to a small degree Rolt Heights this alliance would be strictly a show of support for each other. A metaphorical "thumbs up" if you will. To actually become a member of the Alliance I would assume that you would need to actually more your group to one of the aforementioned suburbs, although I wouldn't suggest Rolt Heights at this time due to the PKer attack. Then again no one says you have to do anything like that.

What I recommended to everyone on the forum was that your group be considered an ally. What this would entail is that your group may request help from the Alliance (on the forum for best results) if in serious trouble (i.e. your group is being targeted by another group for no reason). In turn all that the Alliance only asks that you continue working hard to support survivors in your area, as this is the ideal the Alliance stands for. Or I assume that's all the Alliance asks as the organization works on the basis of self-governance, with each group leader(s) managing their group, but turning to the Alliance when discussing important matters. --Mobius187 April 12 2007, 8:28 AM (EST)

The James Earl Jones Awards

	JEJ Nomination
	The Dulston Alliance has been nominated to win the Best Multi-Group Alliance Award.

Wikipage Issue

The logo image is broken.--Private000 19:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Broken? I think it was a victim of "copyright deletion". I've been seeing a rash of Deletion requests of that nature lately, although from what I could tell the DA logo was removed before this recent copyright war on the UD Wiki. But fear not... I've been toiling away and will present a new logo for you guys. That is, if I don't go overboard on the design. I'm thinking, guy with a chainsaw on a pile of corpses with zombies all around. 2D of course, but not so simple as stick-figure artwork or that ilk. Of course I'm not with the DA and you guys have the right to make your own logo. I'm just doing this to help support the DA and the UD Wiki (for Dulston), as I've been working hard to improve our little corner of Malton and it just won't do to have the suburb's largest group without a logo... --Mobius187 February 7 2007, 10:55 AM (EST)

There, all fixed and probably better than ever. No chainsaw or zombies, as I mentioned originally, but there is a severed zombie head. I figured the shovel and axe really worked well here, considering the Latin I managed to cobble together. Works well when you take that into account. I had some skulls with knives in their mouths, but I felt the logo would just have gotten too "busy" if it had too many things in it. That said the scale of the logo was much larger than I had planned, but reducing the size made it harder to read the Latin so in the end I left it around 350x350. I saved it at low resolution, so it's not a huge file everything considered. Oh, and I beefed up the group description, in part because I had to account for the section break (i.e. Group News) leaving a lot of white space and the other reason being because I wanted to... I'm like that. Anywho, you guys have fun and enjoy the fruits of a few hours work. --Mobius187 February 11 2007, 3:27 PM (EST)

Crime & Punishment

Possible Zerg

I've said it before, I'll probably say it again in future, some of you DA guys are good value and have pushed the MOB hard on occasion. Which is why I hate to have to bring what is possibly a second matter of zerging by a DA member group to your attention. Take a look at this and pay special attention to the characters of Zombierepellent, kantphathom and cantphathom. All three characters are members of the RCDC, the first and third share the same real name, and the similarity between the character names of the second and third is too much to be casually ignored. Are you guys aware of these characters? Able to offer us reassurance that this is just a case of incredible coincidence and not the second time we've seen zergs from within a DA member group in three suburbs?

Now, I don't know if this is what you mean when you're talking crimes, but I couldn't think of a better place to put this (last time, as you're probably aware, I used the BAR public forum. This seems a little more appropriate.) -- Bisfan 06:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, given the lack of response here, clearly I need to go somewhere more public to try and get some answers. -- Bisfan 20:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Accused: Dr Bloodmonkey

User Dr Bloodmonkey PKed me, in the Bridgman building. I am requesting he be put on your Black List. As you can see, various groups have stated he is a PKer: here, and here. He PKed me in Dulston, and as such should be considered active and put on the Black List. --Standard Zombie 03:13, 20 September 2007 (BST)

Greetings Standard Zombie. Your request has been acknowledged and is being processed by the Alliance. As, I would assume, you are not a member of a Dulston Alliance member group the process will take longer. At this time I would like to ask that if you have any further evidence of the crime in question please submit it here. Evidence includes a screenshot of the murder, or lacking that, details of the crime (location, date, and estimated time). While not required, providing us the profile of your survivor (the one who was killed) will work in your favor as a show of trust, as it helps if you prove you have no past convictions on the Black List yourself. Failure to provide any evidence or your character's profile does not mean your request will be invalidated, but it will take longer to judge. Of course, as you have provided proof of the accused possessing a past criminal record this will act as evidence for a ruling in your favor. In short, please check back here in 3-4 days for an update on the case. Have a nice day. --Mobius187 8:00 AM, September 20 2007 (EST)

Sadly, I lack a digital camera and was unable to take a screenshot. As I stated before, he killed me in the Bridgman Building, late last Thursday (Eastern Time). Here is my profile. Standard Zombie 02:19, 24 September 2007 (BST)

Understood. I will provide the court (thread) with this additional information. Just to confirm, there was no provocation for this attack against you by Dr Bloodmonkey? Or simply, he attacked you for no reason. Is that correct? A ruling should be forthcoming. --Mobius187 8:00 AM, September 24 2007 (EST)

No, there was no provocation. We were under attack, and I had been barricading the building and fighting zombies outside, and my group is NecroTech... Standard Zombie 18:09, 29 September 2007 (BST)

Dr Bloodmonkey has been found guilty of murder and has been added to the Black List. --Mobius187 3:53 PM, October 14 2007 (EST)

Increased PKing and Griefing

Hi, this is VenetianBlind of the Sex Possy. As of late, we have been involved with a dispute with a disgruntled survivor, Gaybait,profiled here[2]. As Mobius187can attest to, this user has been slandering us with increasing frequency on the wiki. Now, however, despite every attempt at diplomacy and compromise, including giving Gaybait exactly what he wanted,we have become the targets of in-game violence. Gaybait has pked a member, Donut3, . We have also noticed some graffitied slander.We would appreciate the placing of Gaybait on your blacklist. Gaybait is operating in Dulston. or one of the surrounding suburbs, and makes frequent trips into Dulston to harass us and the survivor cause. Evidence of the PK:

--VenetianBlind, March 27, 2007

Black List vs Rogues Gallery

According to a response I received on their forum, any executions on our black list may result on us getting on their pk list. Now I know that I don't care about the Resensized list, but I think the Rogues gallery is pretty good. Anyone have any ideas to get around this? (I got put on by Marion Wells.) Private000 22:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

This matter is currently still being discussed in the Dulston Alliance's forum, but at this time though feelings about this are mixed. Half of the members want to work within the system of the Rogues Gallery so that the Alliance's stance on PKers is known (i.e. Anti-PKer organization), while the other half are of the opinion that the Rogues Gallery is "not the boss of us, and when did they think they ever were?". So for now there is no official policy on reporting PKers other than reporting them within the framework of the member's current group. Each individual member can therefore set their own prerogative on whether they hunt PKers exclusively from the Black List or first confirm an existing bounty within the Rogues Gallery. While I am not a member of the Dulston Alliance (i.e. any of its member groups) I have read enough of the forums to report these facts. --Mobius187 April 12 2007, 8:08 AM (EST)

GKer List?

I think you guys should add a Generator Killer list to the BLACK List as it seems to be occuring quite frequently within the mall.--Mazda RX7 05:01, 8 August 2006 (BST)

Done. We'll be adding names to it as the GKing occurs. So that should keep us busy at the rate they do occur.--Officer Murphy 05:55, 8 August 2006 (BST)

Should we submit GKer names to someone or just edit them into the Alliance page?--Mazda RX7 03:15, 10 August 2006 (BST)

Suburb-wide Threats

LUE

Just so you know, Stickling Mall and Caiger already have us booked. So don't let all of this talk over excite you or I'm afraid you'll end up disappointed. (This may not be the right section, but it was as close as I could find). --Insomniac By Choice 10:37, 31 July 2007 (BST)

Fact: The Alliance loves getting worked up over things, especially when it involves massive unstoppable zombie hordes.

I have no idea why. Could be the mass destruction they cause. Could be from too much coffee. The Alliance owns a mall which means tons of free coffee. For now I would assume the Alliance (and its members' jittery nerves) will simply wait and see where LUE heads off to before any changes are made to the current tactics being deployed. --Mobius187 July 31 2007, 7:50 AM (EST)

RRF and Shacknews?

Logged in today to find all the rdio and peple blabbing on about an RRF and Shacknews attack on Dulston. Can't find anything on the wiki or ridelybank.org, where's it coming from? Is it even true? --Preasure 15:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm gonna have to say no to this. If it is true we should see the tell tale signs. I mean seeing how there are NO zombies in this suburb if numbers all of a sudden start increasing drastically, we'll have our answer. --Officer Murphy 12:45, 10 December 2006 (CST)

Plus Shacknews would announce their target clearly. Can you get the alliance spreaing the word that it's a hoax? I'll do a number on the wiki. --Preasure 18:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The Big Bash

I think we can safely say the Big Bash will be here in a few days. We need to circulate information and advice now, as well as formulate a cleanup strategy and tell people about the threat. --Preasure 20:46, 26 August 2006 (BST)

They came and over took Treweeke Mall on September 11 and systematically kicked our asses. We held for a while, but their numbers were just too great. The Dulston Alliance groups are working to regroup and strategize the retaking of Dulston. If you are part of a group, make sure you are in contact with your leader or other group members for instructions.--Cheeser 16:00, 22 September 2006 (BST)

The Treweeke Stand

Folks, I saw what was attempted in Treweeke Mall and I got to watch as lots of people died to save it. I can't help but point out that after the Big Bash took control of the mall, then massacred or drove off the all of its defenders, the Big Bash decided to move out of Dulston. This means that the reason that the Big Bash was there, was because survivors were there in the first place to get eatten. Once they were gone, so was the Big Bash's reason for being there. All of the AP spent, all of the ammo shot, the FAK's used, the syringes... all of that could have been saved for future use if people would have decided to take a vacation to any of the other malls in the area that were not in the path of the undead hurricane. It would be easier to understand if the Big Bash were somehow weakened by the resistance, but that is not the case at all; if anything their numbers grew fat with the XP. I wish none of this had happened, but the massacre will have a lasting impact on the survivor population. Hopefully we'll get to reviving you all soon. --Kiki Lottaboobs 09:17, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Kiki, I have to say that, while your advice to leave the mall may have kept some more people alive in different areas of Malton, I chose not to run away. We chose to fight for our home and to defend those that could not defend themselves, or had time to leave. We may have lost the physical battle, but (now revived) I stand proud. I fought next to my friends and neighbors. I helped to keep them out as long as I could. I didn't back down. Our bodies may have been killed during the Treweeke Stand, but not our spirit. We will come back to our home, and live there again, and fight there again, and perhaps, die there again. And when I need to shop, to Treweeke I will go!--Cheeser 21:15, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Everyone in Malton regenerates AP; anyone there could have saved enough AP to get to safety in 8-10 hours. Anyone that couldn't defend themselves must've died anyway when the zombies broke through your defenses and feasted on all the survivors inside Treweeke, so ultimately defending them was a failure. The point I am making is that overall, the butchery that took place in Treweeke only created more zombies and emboldened the Big Bash. It demoralized survivors, strengthened the Big Bash, wasted supplies and AP and continues to drain syringes from the whole area. I suggest next time that you all simply get out of the way. --Kiki Lottaboobs 22:06, 21 September 2006 (BST)

This is true, but it's hard to get that across to a mall full of people. I would have run, but they got me while I was offline. Now I'm on my feet again, waiting for the DA to start returning. --Preasure 18:49, 22 September 2006 (BST)

The Dulston Alliance is re-grouping and will have things back up and opertating soon. Treweeke Mall may have to be vacant for some time though unless other survivors head back to inhabit it as well. --Officer Murphy 012:32, 21 September 2006 (CST)

Dulston Revive Points

Please keep in mind that the only "real" revive point for Dulston is considered to be Duport Avenue. You are free to refer to any other revive points listed on the Dulston suburb wikipage, but be advised revival service quality may vary. During a siege additional revive points will open up in order to deal with the glut and prevent horde zombies from attempting to shut down any specific revive point.

If you wish to discuss any of the revive points in Dulston feel free to post a topic listing your comments or complaints below, the newest topics at the top. Always sign/date your post.

Sacred Ground Policy

Even though Duport Avenue is the best revive point shouldn't we still support the Sacred Ground Policy? We could always try and tag the Cemetery informing newbies to go to Duport Avenue or check the wiki but still not attack any zeds there and revive any if someone has a spare needle? --Archangel Michael - MFD

Discussion here.-- Cheeser, ^DvB|DA 19:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Complaints Department

Wrong group listing

Hello, this is me, Yonnua Koponen, and I would like to point out that you haven't changed my group EVER on your Black List. If you actually checked my profile, it is on there. Thank you. --Yonnua Koponen

DA-diot hunt

I'm going on a little hunt if you wouldn't mind giving me a list of names of leaders of the groups in the "DA" it would be much appreciated--Jay dark one 23:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Lulz--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 23:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

First off, why does everyone keep using the wrong header when they post here? This clearly falls under Generic topics. Or "Insanity". But since the Alliance lacks that header I suppose Generic will just have to do. Now on to your request... hmmm... sorry, the leadership of the DA is highly classified information. You will never ever discover who they are, not even if you went to every one of the Alliance's member group wikipages and checked who their group leader was... no wait, apparently you can do just that. In retrospect I can only assume you're just being lazy. So no, no one will post the group leaders names here for your convenience. Do your own leg-work. Sheesh. --Mobius187 17:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

yeah the wrong heading was for pure annoyanceand i asked just in case you would be nice i'll go find out myself and i'll put names i find here for others who want them--Jay dark one 21:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

D.I.T.P.S.: deathwire, flyte

Dante's Guard: BYOBiohazard

Dead VS Blue: Officer Murphy, Larith, Lefty, Purdueohol

The Electric Light Torchestra: Balcony Jedi, Psycholychee

Flustered Brethren: Ryan Howard

Foxhound: BIG BOSS Conno30001

King Murek's Army: King Murek

Metal Fox: JayDepps, Evildemon989, Rhuster, Logan Ash

PDA: Lemonhead7t7, Chiya1

am i missing any?

--Jay dark one 21:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

You are free to add me, but unless you can travel back in time to February 2006 you won't have much luck. As I try to tell the endless hordes of killers and zombies who insist on adding Caleb to their hit lists, I really don't play UD anymore. I'm strictly Wiki/forum-only these days. Of course you're free to add my name as an act of futility if it makes you feel any better. I'm all about making people feel better about themselves. Also, it seems some of the groups you listed need to keep a more up-to-date leadership, as a few of those names are old, but as I'm not the boss of them you are free to complain in person. Of course that should be done after a healthy dose of not being able to find said individuals. But that's just a suggestion. Have fun with your hobby and I hope it doesn't cause you more grief than its worth. --Mobius187 16:40, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

ahh so your caleb well consider your name removed and as for the list seeing as how apparently i can't just find the leaders names would you mind heping me a bit oh mixer upper of the words acronym and anagram--Jay dark one 18:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but no can do. The leaders of the various groups were former allies of mine so it just wouldn't be kosher to hand their names over considering your motives, but as I'm helpful I can suggest that you contact Captain Grisum, leader of the Infected Swarm, instead. I'm sure he's invested some time and effort in finding this information, what with him running around Dulston these days with his zombie crew. --Mobius187 04:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

yeah i'm michael dark one of the infected swarm i'm trying to this outside of swarm control--Jay dark one 18:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I was under the strong impression that Captain Grisum actively encouraged PKing (what with Swarm members all being death cultists). In which case you would hardly need to do this outside of the Swarm, unless you have an ulterior motive/reason for doing so, such as a greater interest in PKing rather than being a zombie. --Mobius187 20:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

this isn't a pk hunt my zombie michael dark one is going after you my jay dark one account is a harmless survivor i mean i do have a pker account but don't worry about it it's supposed to stay away from the north east corner--Jay dark one 03:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

And by "you" (me) you mean the DA, as you can't actually come after me as per our last conversation on this topic. Well have fun with that, I hear tell there is much action in sleepy Dulston these days. :) --Mobius187 04:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Jurai is no longer a leader of the PDA, in his place is Chiya1LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* ^{Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB} 17:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

You forgot King Saddam, Our God Pluto, and His prophet Steve Irwin, the leaders of DORIS.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 17:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I would remember if DORIS and/or King Saddam had joined the Alliance. As last I recall Saddam was executed, possibly by the Alliance, for crimes against humanity. There was proof he had WMDs hidden somewhere... but no one could find them. He's sneaky that way. Of course you know what I like to say, "An absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence." --Mobius187 18:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you were Looking too hard--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 18:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

New Baghdad? Where is that suburb located in Malton? The location names don't match up so I'm categorizing it as a fictional place like Atlantis, Lemuria, Shangri-La, Rh'leah, or Wyoming. And as for those supposed WMD locations... well recent studies indicate that the acronym "WMD" just confuses people. And in the confusion people get executed. Then everyone has pie, as it should be once things have been sorted out. --Mobius187 23:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

caleb you really don't look to hard the palace is treweeke mall and new bagdad is dulkston even i was able to figure that out--Jay dark one 16:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Dulkston? Now you're making up places too? When will the madness stop? No... it will stop. I'll stop it, because I'm pro-active and we can do it with my three-step plan. Step 1, we all need to sit down and I'll help everyone retake Geography 101. Steps 2 and 3 involve pie consumption upon our mutual success. So how about it? ;) --Mobius187 17:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

pancakes?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 17:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Dulkston? Time for a road trip!-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

No pie. Or as Weebl would say... --Mobius187 20:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

No pie?!? *Tears up* But, but....-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 20:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

No, no, no, not "no pie"; no pancakes. Understand? Or: Pie for everyone! --Mobius187 00:30, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

No cheese? What? I'm sorry, your Dulstonian accent is very hard to understand...;) -- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 04:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

No-one should be promising Pie for all, or cheese. Are you realy coming up to Dulston SA?--Seventythree^Talk 12:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

No, sorry, I still haven't come back from my UD vacation. Still too much stuff in real life to deal with without being addicted to UD. If I make SysOps, I promise cheese and pie for everyone!-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Good enougth for me.--Seventythree^Talk 00:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

damn typos...boy this hasd gone off topic no pie lets have cake--Jay dark one 17:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Cake? Nah. IF you're offering many foods though, I do like lasagne.--Seventythree^Talk 18:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

-eats all the cheese- --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 18:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

-You bastard! Everyone knows cheese is the best part of lasagne! I'm off to sulk.--Seventythree^Talk 18:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Hostilities Against the FEZ

I say, you do realize the reason you have listed for making the FEZ a hostile group is, in fact, an operation that the DA is taking out against the FEZ, and not the other way around? You are saying that you should kill us because you are killing us? It is this utter lack of rational reasoning that proves this entire farce is merely a cover for anti-intellectual hooliganism. You consider a group of aged Supreme Court justices to be KOS, when collectively they barely know how to hold a gun? How many of your trigger happy goons have any concept of why they are shooting at a Society of scholars? I suspect, rather, that they merely point their guns where they are told, showing a total lack of independent thought. At least speak out on the real reason we are on the Blacklist - we speak the Truths that you fear to hear. --Bartemius 20:43, 23 October 2007 (BST)

Ah Bartemius, I take it you are referring to Operation: Earth is Round. This operation was initiated shortly after it was learned that FES was gathering its membership at the Masters Museum and claiming it as their new headquarters. While the Alliance can appreciate a love of fine art it could not allow your group to hold any ground in Dulston. Thus a pre-emptive strike was quickly discussed, voted on, and finally mounted. But I'm sure you know of the results from that event.

I could go into depth about the reasons why the Flat Earth Society had to be executed, but as this ground is already being covered on the Alliance forums I would instead direct you to consider registering on the forums instead. Many of your allies are already there and you're missing out on contributing to the overall ~~banter~~ discussion. --Mobius187 October 25 2007, 9:57 PM (EST)

As if the Court could possibly be trusted with such discussion! Very well, as True Leader I shall join those talks, but this complaint shall stand in open space as a reminder that the DA cannot hide behind closed doors and expect that news of their oppressive ways not be heard. --Bartemius 01:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Banned from the Message Board

I'm just curious as to why I am banned from the DA Message Board? It's not like it's a private affair, and mobius above even told me to come there, before I told him I was banned. So, I would like to know why I banned, other than the reason that I am DORIS--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 03:31, 22 August 2007 (BST)

Being DORIS around 8/24 might look like a considerable threat for many at the DA. But I don't really know, and I'm having no say in this matter. But I'm trying to find out what's going on. Regards, Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 10:27, 22 August 2007 (BST)

I'm sure you guys have levels of access right? Boards for the general public, and then private boards for all your private matters? I mean it's your guys' message board, but I'd rather discuss things on a message board. The wiki is a tad primitive, and not everyone reads messages.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 23:05, 22 August 2007 (BST)

Maris Viridis Extends An Olive Branch

(Where WOULD this go anyway?)

Hmm... it seems we arrived a bit late, like always. We started actively hunting clones the day you guys declared victory. Ah well, same thing happened down in Wyke Hills. Arrived a day or two before it was over, and was killed right before the mall attack. Another member didn't even make it all the way down because of zombie attack (I honestly forgot that could even happen).

Anyway, on to the real topic of this messsage...

Maris Viridis was honored in fighting, or at least attempting to, SARG and their clones, at least along side of Metal Fox. Now, this isn't saying we'll change our PKer ways, we're still gonna kill people. However, our connected members at least, are more concerned with winning contests than killing random.person. But, we would gladly help push out any groups (PKer or not) that promote tactics we believe to be below the proverbial belt. (Such as zerging)

--SgtBop 06:47, 25 June 2007 (BST)

P.S. Figures, every group in the area thinks we're too much of a joke to even be considered opposed to you, huh?

I'm not sure how many people other than me read this section, so I'll probably repost this in the Alliance's Lodge section so they can discuss this in private. By discuss, I mean vote. The voting system in the Alliance works on the basis of how many members are in each group, and that's how many votes ("say") the leader of the group has in decisions like this. That said, I'm always for peace, being a diplomat and all, but I'm not sure how well your peace offer will fly. You already know how the Friends of the Featherstone Library will likely vote, as their rep in these matters is none other than Shotgun Ed. Of course there are the other groups to consider too. You can also contact their leaders individually in order to try and sway their votes (your call, I'm just being helpful here by giving you some feasible options).

Voting aside, the intrinsic problem here is that Maris Viridis is a PKer group and the Dulston Alliance (well not all of it) is anti-PKer. In the past PKer groups, both large (DORIS) and small (The End), have come to Dulston and each in turn was attacked until they left. The idea of coexisting with a PKer group leaves the obvious question... if you aren't hunting DA members you're likely hunting innocent survivors. If the Alliance ignores that then its ignoring its goal of helping survivors (i.e. pro-survivor). One way I can think of turning this around, but you may not like it, is if Maris Viridis became a bounty hunter group instead. I don't think I need to preach to you the virtues or make comparisons of this choice. The last option, should your peace offer be rejected and you do not wish to continue fighting, is for Maris Viridis to move to another suburb as The Dulston Alliance only views Maris Viridis as a threat so long as its in an Alliance suburb (Rhodenbank, Dulston, Rolt Heights, Pescodside). Again, these are just suggestions to consider while the vote is in progress. Well, I'll go post your request and ask them to vote on it right now. --Mobius187 June 25 2007, 9:00 AM (EST)

MV needs to keep moving along. Dulston is a big place. You should move to another suburb where you can get a fresh start on whatever it is you decide to do. You will find no rest in this area. --Shotgun Ed June 26 2007, 11:00 PM (CST)

Here has less zombies. I like that, AND do my part by killing survivors outside a lot now. That way, zombies don't see the human hambargarz, they don't stay. Keeps the ferals out. -- SgtBop 05:39, 27 June 2007 (BST)

Voting has ended and I can confirm that it wasn't the "mad house" of activity I saw last time a vote came up (although that had to do with a Support Accord signing with the USAI). As such, some groups abstained from voting. The votes that were cast though all voted against a truce. As such, the Dulston Alliance formally rejects your offer of a truce. So... back to business as usual I suppose. As noted by Ed, if Maris Viridis should wish to end being hunted it could always relocate to another suburb, but that's entirely your call. --Mobius187 July 3 2007, 8:04 AM (EST)

Okie dokey, wasn't expecting much. Figured I'd leave it out there. Ah well, back to business. ^_^ -- SgtBop^{Talk|Maris Viridis} 06:25, 5 July 2007 (BST)

Whoop-whoop! SARG Alert!

Well hey, someone from SARG mastered the art of screen-capture. I'm proud of you. But no comments? I’m sure the Alliance would be hurt by your complete lack of effort... but as I understand a lack of real effort is a valued attribute in SARG. But seriously, let's see what you have here. That appears to be a conversation with Evildemon989. Fun fact, during the Farbrother Farce he was a member of Metal Fox and this is the first I've heard of this conversation. My guess is he was embarrassed about it. Please keep in mind that every member of the Alliance has the choice to speak their own mind on any topic and vote accordingly in major issues depending on group structure, but I'm sure the concept must be kind of new to you as zergs don't often object to your plans, right General? Actually Evildemon989 isn't even with the Dulston Alliance at this time (see Dunningwood Defense Force). If you had wished to formally negotiate with the Dulston Alliance in any real capacity you might want to try their forum as the most reliable method rather than random conversations with it non-leadership members.

Anyway, as you may or may not know, I'm not technically with the Alliance, but I do perform diplomatic missions for them for fun. As such, I'll take some time to chat with you here. I know in the past you've been a bit tight-lipped, but hopefully that will change as I neutrally examine the facts as I know them. This will be FUN!:

SARG

SARG declared war on the Farbrother Building with the objective of overrunning it.
SARG succeeded (to the best of my knowledge) in killing every non-affiliated survivor in the building.
SARG then proceeded to attack the Holt Building and Groser Crescent Police Department.
SARG killed a member of the BAR.
The PDA reps (their leader was away that week) requested a truce on behalf of their group.
Bottom line, SARG completed the objectives it set for its attack and left afterwards.

Dulston Alliance/BAR

SARG set a very simple goal and met it, much like if I were to declare I would eat a hamburger and in doing so declare victory over all hamburgers. Sweet, sweet victory.
SARG used zergs, lots and lots of zergs. Even other PKer groups called this tactic very lame.
Maris Viridis, listed as an ally of SARG, upon hearing about their zergs broke off its alliance.
Knightmonger Brotherhood of the Reckoning, longtime tit-for-tat killer of BAR members, requested a truce with the BAR just so he could help them hunt SARG zergs.
The Resensitized Forum formally recognized many of the SARG zergs as "cheats" and added them to their KOS list.
The DEM openly mocked SARG in its forum when the zergs were revealed. Attempts by SARG to insult a DEM member with profanity on his user Talk wikipage failed and was also mocked.
The BAR, upon learning of the death of one of its members, started to hunt SARG members, but found only zergs. SARG had already departed (fled?).
The BAR and Friends of the Featherstone Library actively hunted the abandoned SARG zergs so as to clear out the buildings.
The BAR dropped by St. Anastasius's Church, found it bereft of SARG members, so they left a message on the wall.
The battle was called the Farbrother War, but it wasn't a war. It was mocking called the Farbrother Farce. For a proper definition of "war" please refer to historical notes on the Rolt Heights War carried out by the PKA.
And my favorite... "Real Members or Fake?".

So bottom line, if you're interested feel free to come back and start a real war, but have the common decency to use only real players as you're giving PKers a bad name and if that keeps up they may just step in and do something about it. If you do come back feel free to engage in conflict with the BAR or the anti-PKer elements of the Dulston Alliance (refer to the "Anti-PKer" category on their group wikipages, as not all member groups of the Alliance hunt/fight PKers). For example, the PDA does not. Of course feel free not to take my word on the matter of a conflict with the BAR, contact them yourselves on their forum (not their group Talk wikipage, they don't really use that and you'll just end up talking with me again).

Well I hope that settles the matter of who did what, why, when, and where. Let's file this under old news and instead let's put the "new" back in "news" from now on. See you in the funny pages. --Mobius187 July 3 2007, 8:55 AM (EST)

I love how everyone here thinks they are incredibly intelligent.This is by far the largest concentration of incestual idiots on this beautiful planet. Pfft. I give you hard facts that we won and you come back at me with items revealing that we have zerged in the past? We admitted that retard. To take a phrase from you,"The bottom line" is that we won and you even admitted it,along with everyone else. We aren't scared of any of you. Trying to belittle us only wields laughter on our part of the conversation. We used "profanity" on that idiot's page because a member of the alliance defaced our wiki page not once,not twice,but three times! So before you try to throw out a stupid "OH,I JUST SHOT YOU DOWN" end remark,remember who you're talking to you little bitch. Signed and dated motherfucker.--Texasxdoom 20:35, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Hahaha! T-man, oh T-man, I must admit you never cease to amuse me :D! Was that supposed to offend me in some way? If so, you couldn't have hit farther off your mark. You see it's your hollow egotism that we like best about you, you're a real joke. I mean joker. Pardon the Freudian slip of the tongue. ;)

If anyone defaced your group's wikipage you should really take it up with the UD Wiki Mods, as anti-vandalism is their department and they deal with troublemakers. And please note that "the Alliance" did not deface anything as that implies some kind of conspiracy against you when you're not worth that much effort. Seriously. Personally I'm confused why anyone would bother vandalizing SARG's wikipage, but that's really none of my business. As for yelling at you to "shut up", why would I want to do that when you're so amusing? But we've covered that ground already. Still, as we're always interested in a good laugh on the BAR and DA forums, I'll be sure to tell them how much effort you seem to expend in defending your "victory". Personally that was last month's news, but you keep insisting on bringing it up again and again. As you stated, the facts speak for themselves so why should you care what others think about your group... unless that's all you care about.

But down to business, if you're not scared you're free to prove it. I know the BAR is more than a little interested in spending quality time with you and not your zergs. Of course you should first confirm that with them as I don't officially belong or represent the BAR's interests in these matters. It would be a shame if you misconstrued my words as holding weight in regards to what the BAR wants to do to SARG. Still, if you should drop by I hope you stay around long enough for a real fight. That way everyone has their fun. --Mobius187 July 3 2007, 8:43 PM (EST)

Stealing members?

I actually had no idea Officer Mo was leaving us. I said stealing labor (or something of the like) because of a different dispute. You see, I was having a bad day and one of Metal Fox's members stole my hard worked on template. I was angry, and, well, now I'm not. We worked things out.

Officer Mo leaving us really has no great burden. We'll just hunt him down like all the rest of you. --SgtBop 00:11, 6 June 2007 (BST)

It appears then that there was a misunderstanding. When I was told about this it had sounded like the issue related directly to Officer Mo. Now you can see why this type of news is posted on a group wikipage, and not say, in public (i.e. suburb wikipage). You can never be sure of all the facts when you hear something. Well I'm glad that has been cleared up. When I heard about it originally I was in a state of disbelief, as you can well imagine, at the idea of such a claim. It's good to know that wasn't the case. I'll need to add an addendum onto the news post then. By and by, if any of your other group members want to quit Maris Viridis there's always spots open in all the Dulston Alliance groups. Just in case. --Mobius187 June 5 2007, 7:55 PM (EST)

<sarcasm>Thanks, I'll remember that</sarcasm>. Anyway, I did post something along the lines of what was stated, and it IS the news we're talking about, it was good wordsmithing, though. See you when we get back... --SgtBop 02:22, 6 June 2007 (BST)

EDIT: Oh yes, on a personal note, I'd like to be the one to blemish that whole "3 deaths" thing that Caleb Usher has going on. Not because I dislike him, but more because... well, I'm a PKer and that's what I do. --SgtBop 10:11, 6 June 2007 (BST)