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User:Krazy Monkey (Cheese)

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Right that's it pretty much my turn now. For those who haven't seen me about, I've been sysoping for about 3 years now. I've been rather quiet the past few months because of a lack of internet in my flat coupled with a mountain of coursework but aside from a couple of exams next week, I'm hopefully going to be much more active than I have been lately. =) From last time, it was noted that I had a tendency to insta-rule on VB cases. I have hopefully (on those cases I was around to rule on) improved on this. Comments, questions, etc are very much appreciated.

Ta muchlies. -- Cheese 22:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Question - If you fail this re-evaluation, and therefore be demoted, would you still stay on here as an active member? (If so, as much if you were to stay sysops)? --Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  I'd definitely do my best to. -- Cheese 22:13, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  Damn Cheese, you're difficult. On one hand, you're a old vet, you do the janitorial tasks and usually have a good, logical sense of judgment. You're a great sysop...when you're around that is. I simply can't ignore the fact that you have less then 400 edits in the whole year of 2010. You're on the good path now, but this was (unintentional?) the same matter on your last re-evaluation, where you disappeared again shortly afterward. I'd vouch for old times sake, but taking everything in consideration, I'm abstaining for now. I think I have never abstained before on a promotion bid, that says enough. The bureaucrats may have a tough decision here (it would be for me at least) --Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I remember seeing Cheese for a while when I first started getting really active on the wiki but not much after that until recently. Between his absenteeism and my relative newness, it's hard to forumlate a real opinion of the guy. But from what I've seen of his recent activity and what I've seen in Admin Archives, I like. So I'll give an Optimistic Vouch cuz I'd like to see what the dude can do. ~ 22:19, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Strong Against - User has not been active since August, and only returned conveniently right before his reevaluation. --VVV ^RPMBG 22:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  I made a handful of edits between September and October due to my internet was non-existent, some in November when uni eased off a bit, no edits in December because of uni and family stuff and now I'm free to get back to doing stuff again. Fair enough my evaluations due but what does that matter? I was inactive for a while, felt it was only fair that I muck in and take back up the slack I left. Quality over quantity any time. -- Cheese 22:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  Indents only. It's not numbered. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  It was about 5 minutes ago. Aichon changed it over. I blame Thad. -- Cheese 23:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  I normally do. It's not really fair. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  Meh, he won't mind. -- Cheese 23:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

  >:( Silly format error of me, sowwie) --Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Vouch Hes a veteran, don't kill him--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Weak Against - Cheese is a good guy and he definitely has been doing better about not making rash rulings. He's particularly helpful in cases where the other sysops are deadlocked and he can come in with an objective opinion and break the stalemate. The problem is that we heard very similar statements regarding his inactivity 8 months ago when he was last re-evaluated. At the time, I took him at his word that he would have a "summer of epic free time to kill on this place", but, ironically, he's actually had less edits this term (212 of them as of a few minutes ago) than he had in the term immediately prior to that, and of the ones he's had, over half (120ish) have been since the start of the new year. I might interpret the recent contributions as the start of another period of prolonged activity, but the exact same thing happened last time he had an A/RE too, so I'm not exactly inclined to interpret it that way this time, given what happened last time. I'm pretty much with Thad on this one. If it hadn't happened before, I'd vouch for what you've done and give you another chance, which is pretty much what I did last time. Not this time though. :( —Aichon— 23:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Against - Only on the grounds that over his last year he has made few edits. Although he's a veteran, he's being judged on his last term, not his whole term (which, even then, has been declining as of late). More or less explained above, and so there's no point in me rephrasing it. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 00:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Vouch - Why is being not as active such a bad thing, especially on a wiki of such dwindling size? Will he forget how to edit, what policy is, or where his feet go (in his shoes)? I don't think so. This place is little and simple, it is no big deal. He's not a politician. As long as he is able to do the few extra tasks available to him over an average user, then I see no problem. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Weak Vouch - Pretty much as AHLG. -MHSstaff 01:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Very Weak Against - I was well aware of Cheese's poor activity and was always prepared to vouch because he's always been a great op, realistic thinker, etc. But when it comes down to it I don't think I want to anymore, he's just never around. But what makes this an against instead of an abstain is the above promises. I've always been an advocate for banishing sysops who appeal to the community with promises of future activity with no past credibility, but, like General's second bid, my loathing of it just becomes pure wrath when they do it a second time after failing on the same promise 8 months ago. Cheese loses extra points for doing the same on crat elections too, again with no attempt to follow through. I dig cheese because he's always been a good op, but that asset diminishes a bit when he's rarely here. If it were up to me (and to an extent it will be), I'd be inclined to take Cheese up on his promises and make him show us this activity, but as a regular user. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 02:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Against - Cheese has done some darn good stuff when he's active, but as Aichon pointed out, there's a certain yo-yo cycle in KM's activity. I'd first want to see that he's active for real and a prolonged time before I'd trust him with op powers for another 8 months. -- Spiderzed▋ 04:18, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Vouch - And fully aware that you might not be active until your next evaluation. Cheese brings opinions to the table which no other users really do, and he's usually bang on the money, in my opinion. When he's here, he's a fantastic sysop, and frankly, if he ceased to be one, I feel we might lose him from the community. Still, I was very much in two minds about him. I do believe however, if we fail to re-evaluate him, Cheese will be a sore loss to the community.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 08:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Vouch activity does not equal quality and I think Cheese does a decent job here... I would like to see him do more of it but that's hardly the point. --Honestmistake 11:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Vouch - Cheese is a veteran of this wiki now, which means he's entitled to certain perks. Like an elderly walmart greeter, he only has to show up for an hour a week and ask if anyone needs a buggy.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 16:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Vouch - As gnome.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Weak Vouch - He hasn't been that active, but makes a good sysop when needed. I'd personally feel better if he was more active... --Cited Literature Critc, Mead Sheaffer. 19:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Weak Against - While you're a great op, I feel your activity over the last year hasn't been high enough (although it may be a bit rich coming from me >_>). WHile it ahs picked up recently, I feel it's more prudent to see a return to activity without the looming re-evaluation. If your activity picks up again, I'd be happy to vouch for you in a promotion bid.-- Adward  21:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
• weak against' i don't really care either way, if we have some new blood to replace him than do it. he should be more active. maybe a half year as a normal user will do him some good. and if he goes away just because he was voted down.. than we really didn't need him anyway. vet or not.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 04:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• Against - holy crap guys this user is not only a monkey, but also krazy. are you krazy as well to give such a beast the mighty power of sysop? srsly... --Riseabove 07:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
• Against - I voted against the last time Gruyere was up for A/RE, citing absence and lack of foresight. I'm now giving Casu Marzu the same against vote, this time citing absence and lack of hindsight - in short, the last A/RE was pretty much ignored, and I fail to see why an absentee sysop should be given another chance having already caught the attention of the community for said absenteeism in the past. We're not hurting for sysops at the minute, and there's still a few more potentials in the making, so it's prudent to be harsh about what are actually serious concerns, and as such, the better option is to refuse re-promotion and see if Jarlsberg picks up the slack regardless, or whether it is once again a hollow oath, rather than giving the benefit of what is now a considerable doubt. 07:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Ross and I have discussed Cheese's bid. Cheese's re-evaluation has split the community somewhat, most of it focused not on the issues of his last bid (issues of which he has done a very good job at understanding and fixing) but of his inactivity which has been an oft mentioned thing for around a year now. There is no doubt that Cheese is a great op, and I really like him, but it is obvious that a worrying amount of the communities trust has wavered since his last evaluation. Part of it is because of the aforementioned inactivity, but Ross and particularly I believe it's also because of the constant guarantees Cheese gives us that he will step up activity in the future, and for the most part these guarantees have gone unfulfilled.

It is because of this lack of trust we've seen that Ross and I have decided to cycle this bid as unsuccessful. We don't feel Cheese has maintained the necessary trust from the community required to keep the position of sysop status.

It goes without saying that if Cheese can reapply on A/PM and garner enough support, Ross and I (I'll also speak on behalf of any future crats) would be more than happy to take you on board again. And if you do have the dedicated time that you mentioned above in your bid, it will most likely be sooner than later. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 12:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Obviously I am a bit sad about being demoted but I understand why. To those that have supported me, thank you very much. To those who voted against, I understand your reasons and I will try my best to improve. I'll get my activity back up, try and keep it at this level and hopefully try for sysop again in the near future. =) Much love. -- Cheese 12:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

<3 Cheese. We just want more of you. :P —Aichon— 19:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

he will be missed --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 19:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)