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:::::::::The wiki is a public sphere; therefore, being a member of the "general public", these cases are my concern. I am totally within my rights to comment on them. Meanwhile, making statements about me is just trying to deflect the subject and the attention away from your own little private territorial pissing war. Classic tactic, nice try, but I'm calling you on it. Focus on the issue at hand. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:01, 6 September 2009 (BST)
:::::::::The wiki is a public sphere; therefore, being a member of the "general public", these cases are my concern. I am totally within my rights to comment on them. Meanwhile, making statements about me is just trying to deflect the subject and the attention away from your own little private territorial pissing war. Classic tactic, nice try, but I'm calling you on it. Focus on the issue at hand. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:01, 6 September 2009 (BST)
::::::::::So, the issue at hand (in your eyes), is for us to NOT post any cases against each other ever again....wouldn't that limit the "public sphere" of this wiki? If users were not allowed to report each other for things they deem inappropriate or incorrect? I also don't see how I am trying to deflect the attention away from the cases...if anything, my comment before YOU butted in was keeping the argument going, fighting for what side I believe in, you know, free speech, democracy, freedom, the essense of a "public sphere" etc? You fail. TrYiNG 2 SoUnD sMaRt Is A cLaSSiC tAcTiC, bUt IM cAlLiN u oN iT!--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 18:06, 6 September 2009 (BST)
::::::::::So, the issue at hand (in your eyes), is for us to NOT post any cases against each other ever again....wouldn't that limit the "public sphere" of this wiki? If users were not allowed to report each other for things they deem inappropriate or incorrect? I also don't see how I am trying to deflect the attention away from the cases...if anything, my comment before YOU butted in was keeping the argument going, fighting for what side I believe in, you know, free speech, democracy, freedom, the essense of a "public sphere" etc? You fail. TrYiNG 2 SoUnD sMaRt Is A cLaSSiC tAcTiC, bUt IM cAlLiN u oN iT!--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 18:06, 6 September 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::If bob or J3D commit something that is clearly inappropriate vandalism, I think that the odds are good that another user would be willing to call them on it; It's not like you two are each other's personal watchdogs, you just self appoint yourselves that so you can catch the other when they slip up. I'm not saying that bob or J3D is right in these series of cases, but I'd think that bob should be able to trust his fellow sysops, and J3D his fellow members, to report blatant misconduct and vandalism when they see it (of their own accords). Anything less is probably in the grey area and grounds for A/A, which also gets things done.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 18:39, 6 September 2009 (BST)


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JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz

Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- SomethingSomething.gif 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Sister Mary

moved from main page

Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.
Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).
Southpark tearlick.gif--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.

Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. Aichon 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).

Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.----RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User: Revenant

Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

User:The Goth Store Owner

*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --KCLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

So quiet

* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. Aichon 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. -- Spiderzed 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Foiled again by the cabal. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --hagnat 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


September 2009

J3D 2, Cyberbob 2, Cyberbob 3

The popcorn comment might be cliche, but damn, is it appropriate here. When is this going to stop anyway? A/VB is cluster fucked once again. Though really, this whole affair screams personal vendetta to me. A/A?--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 08:49, 6 September 2009 (BST)

If I decide to take anybody to A/A over this stuff it will be after everything else has been cleared up. Cyberbob  Talk  08:52, 6 September 2009 (BST)
You? Lol. It's your vendetta mostly. If you want to stop hows about no more petty cases? --xoxo 08:54, 6 September 2009 (BST)
It's kind of scary when MisterGame is reading my mind..... --WanYao 08:56, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Not wanna go there :P --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 09:10, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Hm yes, I do agree with you that believing the word "negress" to be racist == pursuing a vendetta. Maybe if you didn't always feel the need to make those stupid "edgy" racial double entendres these cases wouldn't keep happening. Cyberbob  Talk  09:17, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Or you could stop pretending you care when a regular user says a slightly offensive (in your eyes) word on the wiki, just so that you can sting him with a VB case to further yourself in a personal vendetta. I think that one would avoid the drama a little better.--CyberRead240 09:21, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Or, maybe, as per my suggestion... You should ALL just shut the fuck up and stay away from taking each other to A/VB and Misconduct. None of you are coming across as at all mature or objective, and it's high time this shyte just ended. --WanYao 09:33, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Maybe you should take everyones suggestion, and butt out of stuff that doesn't concern you, when your comments are inflammatory and keep these wars going? Dont try to play the "omg im so innocent" card when you have filed a lot of VB and M reports throughout this too...--CyberRead240 09:38, 6 September 2009 (BST)
^^^^ Cyberbob  Talk  09:39, 6 September 2009 (BST)
If there was one thing to unite slr and bob...--xoxo 09:41, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Better than Arbitration, Wan is. Cyberbob  Talk  09:56, 6 September 2009 (BST)
The wiki is a public sphere; therefore, being a member of the "general public", these cases are my concern. I am totally within my rights to comment on them. Meanwhile, making statements about me is just trying to deflect the subject and the attention away from your own little private territorial pissing war. Classic tactic, nice try, but I'm calling you on it. Focus on the issue at hand. --WanYao 18:01, 6 September 2009 (BST)
So, the issue at hand (in your eyes), is for us to NOT post any cases against each other ever again....wouldn't that limit the "public sphere" of this wiki? If users were not allowed to report each other for things they deem inappropriate or incorrect? I also don't see how I am trying to deflect the attention away from the cases...if anything, my comment before YOU butted in was keeping the argument going, fighting for what side I believe in, you know, free speech, democracy, freedom, the essense of a "public sphere" etc? You fail. TrYiNG 2 SoUnD sMaRt Is A cLaSSiC tAcTiC, bUt IM cAlLiN u oN iT!--CyberRead240 18:06, 6 September 2009 (BST)
If bob or J3D commit something that is clearly inappropriate vandalism, I think that the odds are good that another user would be willing to call them on it; It's not like you two are each other's personal watchdogs, you just self appoint yourselves that so you can catch the other when they slip up. I'm not saying that bob or J3D is right in these series of cases, but I'd think that bob should be able to trust his fellow sysops, and J3D his fellow members, to report blatant misconduct and vandalism when they see it (of their own accords). Anything less is probably in the grey area and grounds for A/A, which also gets things done. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:39, 6 September 2009 (BST)

User:J3D

13 hours isn't a quick skim, if you were serious about the case you would have had more than a quick skim too. Don't try to "play it cool" to make it look more convincing, you knob.--CyberRead240 02:16, 6 September 2009 (BST)

Yes I mean it's just so inconceivable that I might have had other things to do in that time, such as homework and going to sleep. Cyberbob  Talk  02:28, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Next time you make a shitty comment like that on the main page you'll receive a case of your own, by the way. Cyberbob  Talk  02:29, 6 September 2009 (BST)
Don't be so petty OMG IM GONNE MAKE BIG VANDAL CASE COZ UR BEIN A FUCKIN BABBIE--CyberRead240 05:57, 6 September 2009 (BST)
By "shitty" I mean "not contributing anything of worth or relevance to the case". Trolling fits that pretty much to a tee. Cyberbob  Talk  06:27, 6 September 2009 (BST)
babbie--CyberRead240 06:30, 6 September 2009 (BST)

User:Nallan

DanceDanceRevolution said:
Fair call. Problem is I don't have it, I would assume only Nallan has a copy.
Try moviefap.com, i hear nubis has a membership.--xoxo 04:17, 5 September 2009 (BST)