Talk:The Dead 2.0

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fuck anime though, srsly --Rotting TRex 12:18, 24 April 2011 (BST)

U HAVE BEEN WARNED

[03:33:50 pm] * fuckthedead (Mibbit@synIRC-77E4D6A0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has joined #urbandead
[03:41:58 pm] <fuckthedead> hello who is leader here
[03:42:34 pm] <fuckthedead> i wish to speak with leader of the dead
[03:43:40 pm] <fuckthedead> we are prepared to offer you certain suburbs in exchange for your cessastion of hostility
[03:44:46 pm] <fuckthedead> It is possible that we can find the trees but it will take some time, this is a good deal and I think you should accept it
[03:45:11 pm] <fuckthedead> name three suburbs and we will say they are yours
[03:45:48 pm] <fuckthedead> I think you should except this deal because it will only be offered once
[03:46:26 pm] <fuckthedead> because if you dont then our conflict will extend beyond the game and yes i am serious. that is all
[03:46:55 pm] <fuckthedead> U have been warned.
[03:46:58 pm] * fuckthedead (Mibbit@synIRC-77E4D6A0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

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our conflict will extend beyond the game... and onto the wiki oh god no guys we should have accepted his terms. i'd much prefer to just fucking chill in three suburbs as a zombie instead of doing what we came here to do right guys? the idea of a "cessation of hostility" between survivors and the dead is fucking laughable. get the fuck out.

I shall smash the door and shatter the bolt,
I shall smash the doorpost and overturn the doors,
I shall raise up the dead and they shall eat the living:
The dead shall outnumber the living

-- عبد الريحم بن حسين بن عبد الرحمن العراقي المصري‎ 07:35, 24 April 2011 (BST)

My boys don't stop for nothin' <3 --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 01:07, 25 April 2011 (BST)

SHIT – Nubis ^NWO 02:03, 25 April 2011 (BST)

i'm here to complain

عبد الريحم بن حسين بن عبد الرحمن العراقي المصري‎ 20:34, 23 April 2011 (BST)

JAMES BROWN APPRECIATION STATION

RIP

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_nmJ_VqlM - He made our livers quiver and our bladders splatter. The world's Godfather of Soul and Soul Brother #1. You will be missed. --ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_{Retarded things go here -->} 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 21:51, 20 April 2011 (BST)

shit

now we have something to do this summer \o/ -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

bitch 05:04 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Movement

There has got to be a better place for this. Anywhere really, ideas for the most suitable home until this can be expanded as an actual existing event and not a building timeline with one point? --Karek^maps?! 11:26, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Throw it into my namespace if its otherwise wasted.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:07, 3 April 2011 (BST)

I don't know if it is to be honest, haven't been on the game in a while but, there has got to be either more or a more relevant place where they are actually, say, active? --Karek^maps?! 12:30, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Perhaps we should leave it be until some more information is acquired... It's only been two days and it isn't hurting anyone. Although from what Nubis/DCC used to say, The Dead are notoriously anti-wiki so we may see ourselves through this whole dead resurgence thing without any 'official' news from the leaders/members. Surely there isn't any harm in waiting though. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 14:16, 3 April 2011 (BST)

I agree with Karek. I've stumbled over this page twice now walking back to the map room. What does Krazymouse think this is? Some sort of wiki where users are allowed to make pages? --Kirsty cotton 15:02, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Not this shit again. Maybe there's already a comprehensive page for the Dead. Something like this perhaps? We'll decide on our own whether or not we want anything more than that and we don't need you fucking retards deciding for us. That's what brought us here last time and I'm sure a few people remember just how well that went for everyone involved. Do you want that again? --Laughing Man 15:06, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Your pictures were always excellent. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:58, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Why wouldn't we? -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 01:21, 4 April 2011 (BST)

Soooo...any suggestions where to move it? It appears that User:Anothergenericzombiee views this as a group page. Surely it is not. He reverted some edits as if the group had ownership, though. Maybe it's better suited on a subpage of The Dead 2.0 or even The Dead. If we keep it here, it is surely to be continuously "vandalised". ~ _{20:27, 4 April 2011}

Move it to Krazymouse's userspace. He has claimed ownership of it by creating it, and as a userspace page, any vandalism can be easily verdicted if necessary. -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 4 April 2011 (BST)

If it's not a user group page, then what is it? Something chronicling current events? Surely that should have an NPOV and not some wacky DHPD propaganda and speculation. If it's Krazymouse's then he can do whatever. --Anothergenericzombie 23:46, 4 April 2011 (BST)

It appears to be neither of those things at this moment. I agree with Spider, this should be moved to userspace until it can be worked out what the article really is about. Krazymouses' userspace makes most sense. ~ _{23:59, 4 April 2011}

It should be a neutral page chronicling current events, as genericzombie is saying. If it goes another day or so without any useful updates or input from any user, then put it in mouse's userspace, or better yet, just delete it. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 01:46, 5 April 2011 (BST)

I meant more along the lines of: Can we develop a developing article space for things like this or at least add some content to it? Probably should have been clearer on that, no real reason to move it to his namespace just needs to be made clear that this is a possible future article and wasn't sure if we'd made a new space for developing those. --Karek^maps?! 09:02, 5 April 2011 (BST)

Yeah. I slapped on a "construction" template for now, should at least let people know of its... 'unofficial' nature? -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 10:17, 5 April 2011 (BST)

@Karek, I kind of like the idea of a developing articles page or even a developing events page. Can you expand on that idea bit more? Would it tie in with UDWiki:Featured Articles/Good Articles? This may not be the place to discuss it but I'd be interested to see if we could take your idea somewhere. ~ _{14:57, 5 April 2011}

Are you serious? Can an article not last a week in construction in a mainspace anymore? Sigh -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 15:11, 5 April 2011 (BST)

@DanceDanceRevolution, my comment wasn't specifically aimed at this article or your use of the construction template. I just think a developing article or developing event page would help in situations where an author may not know how to expand their article or would like some tips on how to make it more awesome. If you want to use this article for an example, though, I see that most of the people commenting here are asking for the expansion of the article but nowhere do I see any good suggestions on how to do so. Karek's idea has some merit IMHO and I would like to see if it can be expanded upon. At the very least I'd like to see some suggestion on how the article can be expanded instead of focusing so much on why it should be expanded. ~ _{15:29, 5 April 2011}

Just add stuff, not rocket science. We can start off by adding what's been happening, which I've been doing my best to considering I've not come across them in game (nor care) yet. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 04:35, 6 April 2011 (BST)

It's apparently harder than one might think. How many sad and lonely C1 articles do we find on A/D that could have been expanded at some point with some guidance?

Again, this particular article may not need guidance to get going. Adding updates about what's been happening while keeping it NPOV is fine. At some point, some history can be added. I'll probably run into The Dead here in a day or so as they're moving into the Lukinswood area it seems. I'll put in some updates. ~ _{15:01, 6 April 2011}

The DHPD should not be editing this page, and certainly shouldn't be making edits which aren't NPOV. As far as we are aware DHPD Officer 666 is nothing to do with us (in all fairness The Dead say he's nothing to do with them either). If there is any funny business from DHPD members on this page (or others) report to me and we'll deal with it. Purple Cat ~ DHPD 09:41, 5 April 2011 (BST)

You'll deal with it? Just like how you dealt with The Dead last week? RustyKuntz

they have 1337 members now. hope to god that's deliberate-- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 07:25, 5 April 2011 (BST)

Nope. Up to 1343 now. ~ _{08:02, 5 April 2011}

;_; -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 08:38, 5 April 2011 (BST)

It's weird they didn't. Using leetspeak in 2011 would have been a totally bleeding edge form of trolling. --Deadone 17:19, 5 April 2011 (BST)

-Notices that the Deas has by far the lowest average level of all group- Smyg 17:31, 5 April 2011 (BST)

It's extra insulting when your high level, fully fleshed out RP toon gets eaten by 30 level 1's. I'd suggest you try it sometime, but you're not really gonna have a choice. --Deadone 17:44, 5 April 2011 (BST)

Useless info, nothing new. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 04:33, 6 April 2011 (BST)

Thanks for your amazing insight. Phuzzy 04:35, 6 April 2011 (BST)

Of course it's nothing new, just interesting. :3 Smyg 07:21, 6 April 2011 (BST)

Oh for fuck's sake

Is there going to be a wiki page for every time the Dead shit again? One that chronicles the color and shape? When they start trashing the town then maybe a page should go up, but until then what the fuck are you going to put on it? Stop wasting your time here. And yes, the Dead 3.0 is just as anti-wiki as before and I certainly as fuck don't want to come back here as me or as Nubis. I'm only here to confirm DDR's comment about us. -- #99 ^DCC 18:04, 5 April 2011 (BST)

welcome back, and yes udwiki is a source for all game info.. so what ever the dead shits up is a concern to us here. xoxox -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

bitch 18:28 5 April 2011 (UTC)

There's a stats page, it shows stuff. You know where we start from. Go look at the wiki stuff for there....already updated! So this article isn't really needed because most people already knew what was going on if it concerned them. Another reason is the Dead 2.0 (or whatever the fuck) never left in the first place, so you do the math.--Deadone 18:43, 5 April 2011 (BST)

Aaaaaand there's the other reason I wanted this shunted somewhere until it was possibly relevant. --Karek^maps?! 08:38, 7 April 2011 (BST)

I love you,Karek. <3-- #99 ^DCC 19:43, 17 April 2011 (BST)

Hey since this page is all about us can we edit it however we want? --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 21:14, 17 April 2011 (BST)

I sure hope so! – Nubis ^NWO 21:19, 17 April 2011 (BST)

Well, no one else is. This pile can only get better. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 22:50, 17 April 2011 (BST)

Needs more cocks. --Deadone 23:05, 20 April 2011 (BST)

Needs more Hagar. - Rotting TRex

Needs more Agar. --Lex Lotor 15:16, 21 April 2011 (BST)

You can edit it, just not "however you want". This is in the main namespace so all edits need to be constructive, replacing valid information with unrelated gifs is not constructive. - Vantar 02:01, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Suggesting you DEAL WITH HIT heh Phuzzy 02:20, 22 April 2011 (BST)

If you're serious about claiming this page as your own then have it moved to a sub page of your group or we can head down to Arby's and sort out the validity of your claim - Vantar 03:00, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Oh, man, can we dad? I love Arbys, I wanna get a big old roast beef sandwich and a giant sized chocolate shake and a big old pile of curly fries and then go into a diabetic coma! Can we dad? Can we? Phuzzy 19:09, 22 April 2011 (BST)

SERIOUS, EVERYTHING IS SERIOUS--Deadone 03:41, 22 April 2011 (BST)

WIKI LAW – Nubis ^NWO 04:18, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Vantar is an important contributor and upholder of High WIKI LAW within this wiki community. You should all take his suggestions a little more seriously.--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_{Retarded things go here -->} 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 04:32, 22 April 2011 (BST)

holy shit daddy bought a new car

Just chiming in to say the new layout officially owns.--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_{Retarded things go here -->} 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 04:55, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Is it just me or is it a little meta in here? (diff | hist) . . The Dead's Resurgence‎; 03:53 . . (+420) . . Underisk (Talk | contribs) (improvements)--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_{Retarded things go here -->} 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 04:58, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Best page tyvm – Nubis ^NWO 04:58, 22 April 2011 (BST)

This is the best page on the internet --ShaqFu 05:17, 22 April 2011 (BST)

RIP JB --Deadone 22:21, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Zombies in a zombie apocalypse? No fair!

"Ten months ago, I was first introduced to Urban Dead. A free online game about fighting hordes of the undead and surviving the zombie apocalypse… or so I thought. About seven months ago, I was excited to be playing the game, casually fighting zombies and barricading myself inside buildings while I slept. The game wasn’t and isn’t overly graphic, but I was more than capable of filling in the narrative myself. After getting myself skilled up a bit, four months ago, I decided to create a project for myself in the game, and a week later I had to modify that project due to what had become the glaring flaw in the game’s design. After I abandoned Munford, I took residence in the Pickford Cinema over in Osmondville…

At this point, I really wish I could say that things took off, the movie theater was made secure, we fortified the doors and beat back the walking dead, slowly spreading out to other theaters and growing a network of safe havens for people to pretend they are watching movies as the undead shamble out in the streets. I really wish I could.

The major design flaw in Urban Dead is that you, as a survivor, cannot win. And I don’t mean that in a “this is an MMO with endless grinding, a virtual world, and there will be no ‘You win! The end!’ screen.” sort of way… I mean that in a “There will always be more zombies because you can’t kill them for good because they are not NPCs, they are the other players.” sort of way.

A month we spend inside, making neighboring buildings safe, keeping the free running paths clear. Trips to the mall for supplies, gas from the gas station to keep the generators running… life was pretty good. Then a horde of zombies comes through, breaks down all the barricades, kills all the people, and makes a mess. Now, all us survivors are zombies. Luckily it doesn’t take too long to wander over to a NecroTech building with a revive point, but it does take nearly three weeks to get all those people revived (it takes 20 action points to make a syringe -but you can search for them and cut that down- and 10 action points to revive someone, after you spend a point DNA scanning them, so that 1 person, even if they already have the syringes, can only revive 4 people a day). It takes us another two weeks to get all the buildings back in good order, then the zombies come through again…

I don’t want to be a zombie. Obviously some people do. But when my game, as a survivor, is actually 75% of the time spent trying to recover from being killed… I would rather lose levels than this. Especially since I have no say in my deaths at all… they all happen when I’m offline.

I tried. I really tried. Its just not worth the frustration. I play games to be the hero, the guy that “wins”, not to be just another victim.

I’ll still be keeping my eye out for zombie games, and I still desire to make one… but for now, Urban Dead, as far as I’m concerned, is dead."

  -This is 90% of the UD player base

--Laughing Man 00:38, 23 April 2011 (BST)

That guy's blog has 443 pages of sperging out over zombie games. You'd think he could appreciate just one for not being "survivors tear down big fucking hordes of zombies with assault rifles" عبد الريحم بن حسين بن عبد الرحمن العراقي المصري‎ 00:47, 23 April 2011 (BST)

Bwahahaha. This guy. ~ _{01:07, 23 April 2011}

abloobloo.gif goes here – Nubis ^NWO 03:05, 23 April 2011 (BST)

Fuck Malton, -The Dead

DISCUSS

You expect us to quit?

No, Mr. Pubbie, I expect you to die

I'm unfamiliar with modern-day UD politics, but the map face is too tempting... -- Amazing (UD - FML = HR) 05:54, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Don't break the page.

Content outside the regular page boundaries will be removed. Yes, it's our beloved wiki-law. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:34, 23 April 2011 (BST)

i kinda thought it was awesome. --   bitch  22:55, 23 April 2011

you thought correctly good sir عبد الريحم بن حسين بن عبد الرحمن العراقي المصري‎ 23:10, 23 April 2011 (BST)

Happy Fun Times

The Dead walk the streets of Malton.

We know it as we hide and run.

We know that zombies with have their fun.

The Dead walk the streets of Malton.

Their time has come.

But see his cloak is tattered and torn.

His scythe is blunt, in light of dawn.

Amid The Dead, amid the groans

No longer do they walk alone.

A new age is born.

The Dead hides itself amid the crowd

That presses hard on barricade.

Every man in Malton needs a shroud

The Dead are here. The call is loud.

The Dead walk the streets of Malton tonight

They are coming.

---

The DHPD pulled out of the Hills weeks ago. I’m in the wasteland.

Between the idea

and the realitiy

I stumble across Brains Monroe.

Between the motion

And the act

He’s put down his shotgun, but I’m holding mine.

Between the emotion

And the response

He’s killed many, many of us.

Between the desire

and the spasm

I’ve only killed zombies.

Falls the Shadow.

The question is, can I pull the trigger?

This is the way the world ends

This is the way the world ends

This is the way the world ends

Not with a bang but a whimper

---

Found another one. Should I put the T.S.Eliot quotes in italics or would that spoil the purity of your vision?

- Louise

---

"Gabby, I'm glad I got hold of you. Have you heard about Marty?" "No, what about him?" Cat had come up behind Gabby and caught hold of his hand. "What about Marty?" "Dead. I'm sorry Cat. I thought the news would have already reached you"

"Oh no!" Cat cried. "Marty is dead in a town where people can come back from the dead by STANDING UP. Whatever shall we do?

"Gabby smiled broadly and slipped off his chair and onto the floor in front of her. He laid his chin on her knee and stared up at her. This was a trick he had perfected during their fling - of course, he had generally used it to get sex out of her. Now, he was out for information."

---

"Spotted a grammatical error"

- Louise

---

"You're worried about what happens next, aren't you."

I closed my eyes. How to find my way out of this one? or whether even to bother. It might be easier at this point just to submit, at least it wouldn't involve any more pain.

"A little," I said.

He stepped forwards, so now his whole body was pressed against mine. I was sandwiched between him and the wall. There was a dull ache everywhere from the beating but at the same time I felt my body reacting to his presence because, heaven help me, it had been a long time. I think I whimpered though I'm not sure if it was from fear or desire or a mixture of both.

"Don't worry. I'm not going to rape you. If we fuck, it'll be because you asked for it."

He kissed me gently on the lips and I felt his breath ghosting across my skin. He lingered like that for a moment, maybe waiting for me to give some sign of reciprocation and believe me I was close to it. Confused thoughts about how sleeping with him might be a situation I could turn to my advantage, or at least be used as a let out from any beatings or further violence, but I hadn't quite reached breaking point.

What is the conclusion? I am a Toreador and I am pre-disposed to forming strong emotional attachments with people, especially the Tremere. As Crickhollow, our shady and menacing Nosferatu has said, I have "a pathetic need to protect and be protected." Perhaps he should have termed it "a pathetic need to love and be loved."

At the same time I am also pre-disposed to seek pleasure and I will take it as I can, either through blood if I trust someone enough or through sex if I do not.

Perhaps I am this way because I am Toreador, perhaps I am Toreador because I am this way. Perhaps my emotions and my clan are not connected. You asked me about the Toreador and love. This was my testimony.

Truly literature for the ages. However, you may want to sign your post with links to at least four different user pages or the WIKI LAW will come get you. --Laughing Man 22:03, 18 April 2011 (BST)

What Urbandead Wiki Poster Laughing Man posted is true. I myself fought the WIKI LAW, and the WIKI LAW won!--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_{Retarded things go here -->} 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 02:24, 19 April 2011 (BST)

I rate it a D minus. As a doctor of WIKI LAW I have more important things to do than point out what went wrong, so just pretend it's all awful. – Nubis ^NWO 20:27, 20 April 2011 (BST)

While the original text is a timeless work of art, I'm going to have to change my evaluation for getting Vampire mixed up with UD. And knowing fuckall how vampires in oWoD work and switching them with gay sparkle vampires from elsewhere that middle aged women might actually read doesn't help. A bit :goonsay: to be sure, but I feel the new stuff just detracts from the majestic message of the original print. Also, WIKI LAW --Laughing Man 15:02, 21 April 2011 (BST)

I don't think that's canon, I have to check. --Deadone 22:03, 26 April 2011 (BST)

Great Suburb Group Massacre 2011

	Group Confirmed.
	This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.

Hi there, if you can list the specific suburbs in which your group is active that would be very helpful. Thanks!--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much Peddlesden Village, Chudleyton, Dunell Hills, West Becktown, Owsleybank and Molebank. You can tell by all the DHPD chumps we leave rotting in the streets, typically after their latest attempt to "reclaim" Dunell Hills from our tenacious and permanent grasp. Also if this wiki has any semblance of truthfulness to it, you won't put Dunell Hills down as a suburb that the DHPD is active in - because they're not. They come in for five minutes, repair a building or two, and then we kill them all and they run off to try again a week or two later. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 23:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I've updated your status in Dunell Hills as confirmed. Of the suburbs that you mentioned, you were only listed on the wiki under Dunell Hills. If you want to add yourself to the suburb group listings for the other suburbs feel free to do so. The job we are doing is to confirm which groups are still active and remove the ones that aren't. So we aren't currently adding listings ourselves, but as I mentioned you are perfectly within your rights to do so yourself.

As far as the listing for DHPD, they have been confirmed for Dunell Hills for reasons which I will explain. They way we seek confirmation is to contact any groups that are listed in a suburb (just as I've done with you), and take them on their word that they are active if they respond within the given time-frame. While this method may not result in complete truthfulness, it is the least controversial method that can be applied within a reasonable measure of manpower and impartiality.

In theory we could garner more accurate data by creating accounts in all the suburbs in question and then monitoring the suburbs for a month or so to see if the groups are truly active, however this would be extremely time-consuming. Rather than get into disputes over who is active where, we've decided to just stick with this method for now, at least until something better can be devised. I hope you find my explanation to be adequate, and thank you again for your response.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 18:57, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh if it's just the trust system then we are active in every suburb in the city, why not. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 10:53, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

And thus fiction became fact... ----Krastavac 09:59, 12 May 2011 (BST)

what is this shit

can we just replace the page with a giant get out frog plz - - Rotting TRex

second – Nubis ^NWO 00:09, 24 April 2011 (BST)

nm that's much better - - Rotting TRex

New page is awesome, but feels a little empty. And hey, I wonder what that date's for -- 16:25, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Holy Zombie Jesus, who left that date up there? -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ^TMG 04:49, 9 May 2011 (BST)

Eh?

What are they saying? It's the end of the world, the dead are walking the earth, apocalypse, etc. So what else is new?--Ryvyoli ^{Y R} 09:43, 9 May 2011 (BST)

The sky is falling! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Revenant (talk • contribs) 11:32, 9 May 2011 (BST).

The End result

The Dead are annihilating the city. What does everyone think the end result will be? Not having survivors to kill will be boring. Do you think Kevin will rebalance the game as a result of this? -Li2 19:59, 13 May 2011 (BST)

Assuming it doesn't stall out I foresee Kevan either resetting it all( basically a brand new city) or just having about 50% of every standing zed revived under the premise of "Military actions." Now it'd be interesting to have every non-rotter zombie revived and watch that play out..       21:37, 13 May 2011 (BST)

Or he could set it so finding syringes in ruined NT buildings skyrocket. Oh look, he has! Also, fuck. --|||||||||||||||||||||||| 22:18, 13 May 2011 (BST)

Its true. Even in ruined NTs, search rates are through the roof. Same for FAKs. Stats page is also being updated every few hours instead of once a day. ~ _{23:44, 13 May 2011 (UTC)}

Stats Are Updated On The Hour Every Hour And Have Been For A Long Time. You Would Have Noticed This If You Didn't Have Your Head Up Your Ass All The Time. <3--MeatPuppet MeatPuppet

Ah, I thought I had read that it was once a day somewhere. Honestly have never paid much attention to the timestamp. So do ya'll think Kevan implemented higher search rates or was it always built in for times when so much of the city was in ruin? People have suspected for a while that burb ruin states affected search rates. ~ _{01:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)}

It's probably affected by the ratio if you ask me. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 02:48, 14 May 2011 (BST)

I believe syringe rates have been based on the Survivor:Zombie rate for quite a while. Though I can't remember how I first heard about it, I believe we had it happen in reverse when survivor numbers were through the roof. It would be a very simple and clever way to maintain the game balance without constant manual tweaking, as the supply of syringes is basically determines whether survivors can hold a suburb.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 09:21, 14 May 2011 (BST)

If it were based on ratio it would have kicked in a few days ago when we got it down to 15/85. This seems to have happened within the last 24 hours. --|||||||||||||||||||||||| 14:31, 14 May 2011 (BST)

It works that way for several days now. 404 and others have reported so days ago about searching ruined NTs and hospitals. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed█ 14:51, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Huh. Spending my time as the Dead and a non-reviver Globetrotter made syringe hunting pretty low priority for me so I probably just didn't notice. I wonder if it was ever changed from the last March. Back then we got survivors down to 31% before the fix was in, and this time it's down to 14% so if it is ratio based it makes sense you can almost stumble over them without searching. --|||||||||||||||||||||||| 14:59, 14 May 2011 (BST)

People with Aspergers Have A Tendency To Over-Capitalize Shit. Dirk Pecs 14 May 2011 00:18 BST

QED. :Golfclap:--MeatPuppet 00:27, 14 May 2011 (BST)

The Dead 1.0 noticed the same thing - as the ratio of living to dead survivors fell, search success rates rose. I'm curious as to what happens when the ratio goes the other way, though... --Cman yall 08:25, 14 May 2011 (BST)

I'm pretty sure that it does work the other way.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 09:31, 14 May 2011 (BST)

It probably does, but we will very probably never see it. When someone doesn't want to stay alive, brain rot/window-diving/standing out in the open take quick and easy care of it, so something like 80+% survivors is extremely unlikely given the rock bottom of dedicated pro-zombie players. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed█ 11:27, 14 May 2011 (BST)

It came close to that a few of years ago.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 14:22, 14 May 2011 (BST)

“	Yes, this is just a simple built-in balancing mechanic, triggered by the overall state of the game - at the other end of the scale, search rates drop when survivors greatly outnumber the undead. If you want a thematic reason for it, the pickings are richer for an individual survivor when there are fewer of them around to do the looting, and when the suburbs are getting too comfortably repopulated by the living, it's harder for them to find something that's been overlooked by everyone else.	”
—Kevan, via email

ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 16:19, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Basically, less survivors = higher search rates = actually affects game. More survivors = lower search rates = doesn't affect much. Once everything is lit and barricaded and the zombie population is stupidly low what's the point in having to search for anything? --|||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:29, 14 May 2011 (BST)

It kinda does affect the game, though not as much. Just to illustrate: It currently costs me +-12AP to revive one survivor with the near-certainty of finding a syringe. When Survivors:Zombies are near 50:50, it costs me +-32AP per revive. That's a significant difference and it means survivors will stay dead longer and killing emptying a NT full of survivors will have much more impact.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 16:49, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Uhm General, that hasn't been correct since 2006. The average search rate in times of 70:30 survivors doesn't even get below about 12.5%. It's always more efficient to search than to manufacture and it's almost always less than 16 AP from search to revive. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 19:51, 14 May 2011 (BST)

The way the RNG works means that it's perfectly possible to search 30 times in a row and find nothing, so I used the worse-case numbers of the amount of AP used for each. Another factor is: The status of a suburb as heavily ruined is actually sort-of helpful to survivor mobility because it provides zombie-maintained entry points; in prosperous times you could easily spend 5AP just finding an entry point. However, if you consider the guesstimated search rates then 25AP would probably have been and more realistic number from search-to-revive..--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 23:52, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Well, that's still actually pretty high. Especially since those numbers are from before the variable building search rates update that makes ruins search rates much better. What little more current data we have shows the rates to be roughly double that. The average find in 25 AP for syringes in the last 5 years actually ends up being about 4. Here's a useful discussion that has more detail on reasonable revive rates. Here's another one where Grim_s discusses the issue. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 01:15, 15 May 2011 (BST)

"The way the RNG works" - didn't bother reading past this. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 17:15, 21 May 2011 (BST)

Christmas Tree

For all the havoc you all are causing there is still one Christmas tree out and about, tis insulting. I demand you destroy it!       03:50, 18 May 2011 (BST)

Also, tell us where in Malton it was...--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 07:08, 20 May 2011 (BST)

Was nothin its still there mocking them. For all your animated GIFs survivor numbers are up 7%. The game isn't going to ruin itself, get it together goons! --Zaruthustra^{Still a Mod in His Mind} 12:17, 20 May 2011 (BST)

If you look more closely, I believe you'll find that survivor percentage is up because zombie numbers are going down. What would be your guess as to the cause of this, hmm? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 04:37, 21 May 2011 (BST)

yeah, im sure this has nothing to do with it, either. - Serious Post. Please do not silly. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 04:48, 21 May 2011 (BST)

"Average" players of UD, such as myself, who for a time were assisting in what we perceived as the total destruction of Malton, in an effort to "end" the game, have since figured out that such goal is nigh impossible (by design). See the above syringe finding issue for an example of why. Basically, the game can't "end", and thus many like myself have gone back to playing it "normally". In my case, I'm once again alive, fixing my suburb, and reviving the dead. I have spoken with other long time (3+ year) UD players and they see it the same way.-Fallout11 15:09, 21 May 2011 (BST)

On the other hand, some people (such as myself) saw the end of the game coming and did the complete opposite. I even dropped my pker out of the current Red Rum activities in order to help revive people.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 15:50, 21 May 2011 (BST)

Pssh play dual natured and be a real zombie for a time ;)       19:56, 21 May 2011 (BST)

I actually have a dedicated rotter who's currently shambling around and finding the lack of brains (literal and metaphorical) rather disturbing :P.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:08, 21 May 2011 (BST)

You what? Seriously, have you seen the ammo search rates? Today I went from 8 shells over 9 shotguns to 14 fully loaded shotguns!!!!! (And had to drop some empties, too!) Fuck repairing, the game's a PKer's paradise right now! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:18, 21 May 2011 (BST)

It would be if it wasn't for the fact that I can't actually survive the night most of the time (Got killed in a dark, EHB building having been offline for ~6 hours) and 2) because the game's less fun when the prey comes only in pre-hunted form.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 23:18, 21 May 2011 (BST)

Hence why your better off to not repair the building. If you repair then you've just drawn both zombies and PKers to your location. It's a wonder you survived 6 hours...       02:49, 22 May 2011 (BST)

You need to log on to the forums again. I have a Plan. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:34, 22 May 2011 (BST)

Ive been checking up on it but you haven't posted any updates on it :(       03:49, 22 May 2011 (BST)

Heh, now there are two Christmas trees.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 04:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)

Did some quick math, when you add the revivifying bodies+standing survivors then divide that number by the total of level one survivors you get about 62.35% of the survivor population is basically useless..        02:36, 23 May 2011 (BST)

Zergs are never useless! --Paddy Dignam^{IS DEAD} 04:03, 23 May 2011 (BST)

Repair some arbitrary building and have a 2500 person meat shield FTW?       04:06, 23 May 2011 (BST)

It's the fucking first Monroeville quarantine all over again… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 04:36, 23 May 2011 (BST)

Zerging Evidence Goes Here

Y'all love harping on about how we're zerging so here's your chance folks! Post your "solid evidence" that we're a bunch of cheating, zerging, baby raping scumbags right here! --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 11:29, 26 May 2011 (BST)

You are too easy - but I have to say that at least you are _quick_ at purging zargarbargarz (N.B. for mongtards: No, they are not. As long as they are on their side and bolstering their stats page entry, they don't seem to mind zergers at all.) -- Spiderzed█ 16:19, 26 May 2011 (BST)

While your efforts to link a page from 2 years ago covered in 404s and another from 7 months ago is appreciated I must express my opposition to your use of harmful language such as mongtard, being offensive to those who are disabled and also mongolian.--||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:40, 26 May 2011 (BST)

Sweet fuck could you at least try to keep it in this fucking year? You know, in the timeframe when the current horde has been active? Clearly it can't be that fucking hard since everyone and their mother apparently has massive amounts of evidence they apparently don't want to actually fucking reveal. --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 22:33, 26 May 2011 (BST)

If it's evidence of zerging that's required, then evidence of zerging is what I shall provide. Probably not the evidence that you wanted to come to light, though, you misogynistic little shit. Let me fucking tell you, buddy, that if you have got issues with how I conduct myself on this wiki, then you can fucking air them out here in the open. Not by sneaking up on me and capping me in my sleep. What's your fucking problem with my behaviour? Do I not conform to your lofty standards of being a docile and subservient toy? Maybe I should put on a skimpy maid outfit? Or do you just like those on girls when you're pretending to be one? Fuck you, buddy. I hope a dog eats your testicles. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 01:07, 27 May 2011 (BST)

But wait, there's more! Click now and receive 100% extra zerging absolutely free! AP problems? Can't get a revive? Lack of ammo? Not anymore with Spiderzed's patented formula, made from a secret blend of twelve types of bullshit! Our operators are standing by 24/7 to take your call and call you a faggot. Supplies are limited, don't delay, call today! --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 01:27, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Oh, I - uh... *puts gift-wrapped maid costume in a nearby trash bin and walks off into the night* -- Amazing (UD - FML = HR) 01:31, 27 May 2011 (BST)

"I shall be Maid-Man... no more!" --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 04:05, 27 May 2011 (BST)

'Nuff said, true believers. -- Amazing (UD - FML = HR) 04:26, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Funny how Angelina managed to PK Katthew in Starlingtown while she is less than 24 hours later on the opposite side of Malton. That's a trip of 90-100AP. Additionally, I can easily find several trusted members of the metagame who have seen her over there and can confirm that she has been in the far west for days. But since you have such a great reputation of fighting zerging, having convictions and never ever tolerating cheats in your ranks, I'm sure that you have a logical explanation for that, Katthew. -- Spiderzed█ 06:25, 27 May 2011 (BST)

It's what I thought. As for my allegations above, here's a few dumbwits Kemps fished for me from the RG a bit ago (thanks man): [1] [2] [3]. I'll add a couple of my own: [4] [5].

If you look closely at the "you were killed by so and so" line, you'll notice there's always a full stop after that text, before the timestamp. The game always does it that way: You were killed by Sally A Summers. (sometime ago)

Compare with these: [6] [7].

Accidentally removing that full stop there is what I called a mistake by whoever edited the UD page in a Javascript debugger, removing whatever was there and adding Angelina's name, before submitting it to dumbwit.

I would expect an explanation from Katthew and Sykic now. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 06:54, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Wow, so, you rag on a missing full stop - which happens to be the result of the script that Sykic and I both use, as it happens - but the moment Spiderzed posts a blank page with "I AM TOTALLY IN GRIGG HEIGHTS" on it, you cannot wait to instantly start slobbering all over him. His "evidence" is ridiculous, and you're only putting your faith in it because you're a suck-up who wants to cover up his cheating. Nice, real nice. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 07:11, 27 May 2011 (BST)

There is no need for aggression. I already explained you why I'm more inclined to believe Spiderzed than you - I can't help this, trust takes a long time to build and, while your friends have known you for a long time, I don't have that benefit. Still, I'm trying my best to be objective. I'm sorry, but I'm well used to consider an out-of-AP screenie good enough - the RG does it, and sometimes it's the best you can get. I guess if it doesn't show signs of manipulation, which it doesn't, I don't have a reason to doubt it.

But I actually would like to know more now, just so I'm sure I'm not sucking up to anyone. You think I could have a look at that script of Sykic's and yours? Off the top of my head I'm not quite sure how that dot would get removed, but I'm fairly good at understanding software. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 08:02, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Speaking of fucked up iWitnesses and page editing/scripts, isn't Spiderzed the guy that tired to prove SaulKD was zerging at the Library at 16-13.6 and the Factory at 24-24? (hint: it's a road)--||||||||||||||||||||||||| 15:59, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Right clicking a name allows us to perform a check to see where that character was last seen, if at all. The problem arises when you try to right click a name in the "You were killed by" line. Doing a last seen search on a name in that line will cause the plugin to return a search for "Name." rather than the actual name. You figure it out. --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 17:40, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Oh, how awfully convenient that you have "evidence" that at least one of your stupid little characters is a million miles away from your crime! Even if that "evidence" is nothing more than a blank screen with a the name of a suburb hastily scrawled on it. Oh, and even it's posted on a system owned and operated by a member of the DHPD to boot. I'm sure there wasn't even a hint of a conflict of interest there, oh my, no. Let's not even mention that your greatest defender so far has been Kempy, who not only shares your disgusting hatred of women, but also has been known to zerg like a motherfucker himself. Meanwhile, you've been silent for a suspiciously long time before suddenly turning up with some hastily-assembled proof. Now, I may be naturally suspicious, especially of power-tripping douchebags who invest too much in their pathetic wiki affairs, but this all adds up to a lot of highly suspect "coincidences". Your "trusted members of the metagame" are probably going to be a bunch of snivelling, sycophantic suck-ups with an axe to grind and just as many creepy issues as you, you wretched little man. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 07:11, 27 May 2011 (BST)

"Let's not even mention that your greatest defender so far has been Kempy, who not only shares your disgusting hatred of women, but also has been known to zerg like a motherfucker himself." Harsh. Especially considering you even gave the green light to my own show. It's no wonder your ratings are slipping with shoddy management like this. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

07:23, 27 May 2011 (BST)

The whole point of your sad little circus is so you stay there and don't interfere when the grown-ups are talking, little boy. Run on back, now. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 08:28, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Well, that sure told me. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

16:08, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Excuse that I didn't watch the wiki for some hours - as hard as it obviously is to grasp for you, there are people who have a life. As for the validity for my screenie, feel free to put up your evidence on the Zerg Liste. I'll gladly defend my reputation as an upstanding player in front of a neutral party (which, as you might know, includes your fellow goon Revenant). -- Spiderzed█ 11:56, 27 May 2011 (BST)

I suppose you were too busy zerging our guys and making a terrible fake screenshot showing you weren't. Another fine example of a sysop. --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 18:27, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Ladies and Gentlemen (but mostly the gentlemen), it's the Kempy Is A Bigoted Piece of Trash Show - starring Kempy!

...this can't be right. For a start, SZ isn't that fucking crass in his kills, and doesn't talk like some potty mouthed fucking hooligan like... well, like wot I'm doing right now. No, I'm not convinced this is legit. Smells like bollocks to me, and I should know, I've smelled eno... NVM. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

02:17, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Sooner or later everyone forms an opinion about someone. Yes, even someone like me. It's shocking, I know. In the case of Spiderzed, it's turned out to be a negative opinion. Now, I've seen enough wiki assholes and forum scum go completely apeshit over li'l old me in my time playing this game, and there's nothing special about him. Maybe he wasn't as outrageous as the guy back in '06 who declared I should be raped in real life to teach me some humility (yes this actually happened), but he's still showing his true colours here. Any guy with that many porn starlet alt accounts has some disturbed views when it comes to my gender. So maybe the next set of bollocks you smell can be his (after a dog eats them). --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 02:25, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Put it back under the counter doll, I ain't buying it. Somethings afoot here. AFOOT, I say, and I'm getting the Scooby Gang in to deal with this. Ah'll be back! ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

02:36, 27 May 2011 (BST)

"Doll"? Oh, I see. How positively adorable. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 02:38, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Ain't I just? Bet that swept you right off your feet that did. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

02:40, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Please, don't mind me. Just keep on diggin'. I'm sure you'll get out eventually. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 02:41, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Reminds me of my ex that does. Was like throwing a sausage up a close. You're not her, are you? ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

02:50, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Do you have any more comments on how my vagina must be loose from fucking so many men like the stupid little ditzy slut I so obviously am (being female and all)? I mean, gosh, I know I'm just a female (and therefore don't have the mental capacity that you testosterone-laden studmuffins do) but jeepers maybe you'd like to make an analogy that my pussy is, quote-unquote, "a goddamn clown car" and finish off with a firm slap to my behind so I know it's time to get back into the kitchen and make you a sandwich? Just a thought. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 03:01, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Get your fucking screenshots out, there. 03:10, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Settle petal, you'll break a nail. What's with all the mad agro? You're doing the feminine vote no favours with this little hissy fit. And to think, we even let you lot burn your bras. What a waste of matches that was. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

03:09, 27 May 2011 (BST)

that never actually happened hth.--||||||||||||||||||||||||| 03:14, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Like a lot of things, this poxy stitch up for one, but hey, we're all role playing here eh? Go with the flow, smile a bit. You might feel happy in your heart for it. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

03:24, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Sexism is hilarious.--||||||||||||||||||||||||| 02:44, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Yah. Especially when the boobs fall out. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

02:50, 27 May 2011 (BST)

This is a post I can get behind. "Get behind", get it? I'm insinuating that I like having sex with women who are in a submissive posture. Ironic sexism is awesome! ||||||||||||||||||||||||| 03:35, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Unless they charge extra m8. Then it's not so much. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

04:06, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Kinda funny how the only person to spring to Spiderzed's defence so far is a guy whose first instinct has been to call me a stupid whore. Wait, no, not "funny" - what's the word I'm thinking of? Pathetic, probably. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 03:11, 27 May 2011 (BST)

I so never did. What a lie. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself young lady. Shocked I am. Utter, shocked. Hmph. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

03:20, 27 May 2011 (BST)

You folks from something Awful are rather touchy. Everyone needs a chill pill.       03:22, 27 May 2011 (BST)

He's not affiliated with us in any way. I don't think even GBS would take him. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 03:24, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Fair enough, I retract my statement that you sprung to Spiderzed's defence. Which means that the allegations of zerging are now completely unchallenged, even by Spiderzed himself. An admission of guilt? Most likely. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 03:24, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Not at all, m'am. Actually, I don't buy it either. Never mind the speech being so uncharacteristic - the notion of Spiderzed stooping so low as to do this goes against a long-lasting impression of rectitude and honesty he's formed in my eyes, over the months I've witnessed him go about his business in-game, and here and elsewhere. But even if he would resort to zerging... being stupid enough to do it like this? Now that would shock me utterly.

Oh and I'm fairly confident these screenshots have been doctored, and I can show it - whoever did it made a mistake. I'm not in a rush, though; I'll wait for Spiderzed. He probably will have a thing or two to say about it. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 04:29, 27 May 2011 (BST)

They're not screenshots. Try selecting some of the text. Also, no offence to your stellar relationship with a man with fucked up issues regarding women (which is apparently the fucking norm around here, go figure), but I'm pretty sure that he is easily that stupid, if not moreso. I have seen people come and go in this game, for all the years I've been around, and this isn't "stooping" at all. You think people don't get angry? Angry enough to break the rules? Oh, whoops, I forgot! Silly me! He's not a goon and therefore he is above suspicion in every way. FALSE ALARM, FELLAS, LOOKS LIKE WE CAN IGNORE THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE HE'S NOT A GOON!!!

I put up with shit like this way back in the post-DARIS days, and let me tell you - there's nothing about this scenario which surprises me in any way. It's happened before, and it'll happen again. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) @ 04:39, 27 May 2011 (BST)

I don't doubt you've had it rough. I'm sorry, for what it's worth. I've had bad experiences in the past - perhaps it's the norm for women in online games to be harassed... and what a depressing thought that is. But well, nowhere as bad as you've had, of that I'm certain.

Oh I'm well aware these aren't screenshots - I should have said "screen captures" or just "dumbwits" - my bad. One of these days I'll actually make my own capture service, if only because iwit, udwit and dumbwit just can't seem to handle Unicode properly.

I don't harbour anger for goons, or any strong feelings for that matter. I'm aware that me stating the captures seem doctored is in fact an accusation of fabricating evidence, with the hardly veiled implication that you did it to incriminate Spiderzed. I haste to add I can't be sure how it happened, only that both captures above show evidence of tampering. Confronted with the choice of accepting Spiderzed did what he's being accused of, against what my own feelings tell me, or to believe he's being set up, I tend to favour the latter, viscerally like. I only hope you can understand my position. I'm not trying to vilify you, but speaking up for a person who's earned my trust.

I will reserve any opinion until Spiderzed speaks for himself. Perhaps he did actually lose his mind for a bit and resorted to this, in a fit of rage or something... in which case I would quickly take back any implication, apologise, and deal with my own cognitive dissonance on my own time. But let's just wait. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 05:39, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Thanks for shitting up this section with your sexism, Kempy. Real appreciated. --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 03:42, 27 May 2011 (BST)

You're welcome. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

03:54, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Stop. Just stop. You are the worst kind of guy, Kempy. Stop replying to everything 'cause you want to be a Cool Guy.--Deadman Walken 04:02, 27 May 2011 (BST)

OK. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

04:07, 27 May 2011 (BST)

I quite like the guy, actually :) --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 04:29, 27 May 2011 (BST)

~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

07:03, 27 May 2011 (BST)

It's a sad state of affairs when Goons aren't the most misogynistic group in a video game. --||||||||||||||||||||||||| 06:40, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Seriously, what in the blue fuck is going on here? I seriously hope this kempy guy is trolling, otherwise i'm going to have to revise my estimates on how low into the realm of blatant misogynistic, ignorant, pseudo-macho bullshit someone can sink. Congratulations, i am actually genuinely surprised at how pathetic someone can be on the internet. - Serious Post. Please do not silly. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:31, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Edit - I may be some "stupid cheating goon troll" to some of you, and i do say a lot of things, but at least i dont sink as low as to try and submit women to humiliating bullshit just to attempt to justify my own e-cred (or anything else for that matter). What the fuck is wrong with you. - Serious Post. Please do not silly. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:37, 27 May 2011 (BST)

And I agree with Mazu some posts above - you're being rather touchy. I mean, should I take offence at the blasphemous templates in your page, DeRathi? Or at Mendoza using a BIG GAPING VAGINA as an insult, or at that bit about about rape in ShaqFu's, or at this very page and so many goons' belonging to Category:Hitler family? (which I personally could find way more offensive than any sexism, despite being a woman myself)

Perhaps I should. Only I know it isn't fucking serious, you guys are not a bunch of misogynistic racist pricks, just as Kempy isn't either. Chill, ffs. You of all people ought to know a troll when you see one. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 09:39, 27 May 2011 (BST)

1) This isnt about you. Stop pretending otherwise. 2) Last i checked, i'm none of those other people you listed, and thus your statements have no bearing on neither my, nor anyone else that has expressed disgust at Kempy's actions, statements. 3) That doesnt change the fact that MANY others have expressed MUCH disdain over the years solely for what goons have said and done on the various forums, wiki and in game without so much as an eyelid batted from us, but if we so much as point out that one of your precious little circlejerk members is guilty of not only actively being an ignorant prick, but also being unrepentant and disrespectful about it when asked to knock it the fuck off, HOLY SHIT EVIL GOONS. No, i think you should squarely shut the fuck up and get out, personally, because again this is not about you.. no matter how much your e-boyfriend up there has beaten you into being his toadying white knite yes-woman. It doesnt matter what YOU think. Kempy is as the evidence above shows, fully aware of what he is doing, there is no question about that.

Trying to dismiss his actions as some kind of glancing 'haha its just a joke guys, relax' bullshit is what is the most reprehensible about this. Perhaps if he had been man enough to go "you know what? i was a bit out of line, sorry Katthew" and left it at that, there would be no problem. But no, he had to keep going like the retarded chucklefuck that he is, and dig himself deeper into his pit of disrespectful nonsense. Somewhere along the way it became quite alright to dump shit on goons. Fine, we can deal with that because ultimately we dont give a shit what you dumbfucks think. That doesnt mean we dont have individual respect for people who work their asses off to do what not even all of you idiots combined could achieve if you were paid to do it. You want to support your e-boyfriend into being some e-tough blustery buffoon, then thats your perogative.. just dont be surprised when we snap back at you and call you out on your bullshit (and lets be honest, you have to go PRETTY GODDAMN FAR for us to call you out on it). I dont imagine for a second you or anyone else would actually read this, so heres a quick TL;DR for you: Shut up and go away. Thanks ever so much. - Serious Post. Please do not silly. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 10:23, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Oh, are we still doing this? Okies:

01) I don't see where Soph once pretended, or alluded to the fact that any this was about her. Rather, she asked a reasonably vadid question regarding the comparison of my (ahem) offensive remarks and that of the tirade of bollocks which has came from many of your cohorts in the month or two you've been spouting your gibberish on this wiki.

02) I don't even know who you are, tbh. You all look the same to me, with your little Rainbow Brite sigs, and carbon copy hymnsheet of insults. Uh-oh, does that add racism to my list of disgusting traits? Something I'll have to deal with, I guess.

03) You lost me a bit on this one. lemme see if I got this, correct me if I'm wrong, k? By your own admission, the goons have said and done things on various forums, wikis and games, which have caused disdain. Yet, you're all so thick skinned and proper hard, you've never felt the need to retaliate untill now? One little line of comedy sexism, and BANG! Goons be outraged? That's just mint then.

...seriously, whut? What's with all this bollocks? I thought you lot were supposed to be this tough internet steamroller of epic win, yet, here you are, all whining with your panties up in a bunch at the slightest comment, which btw, was no more offensive than any the tired old routine you've been preaching yourselves through this entire campaign of dickery. You talk of white knights and e-tough bluster, all the while doing exactly the same yourself, rushing to the aid of poor, sorry little Kat in your masses with the regulation insult list and flashy sigs. When your ganglike intimidation tactics fail to work, and people don't back down with their tail between their legs, you lose the plot completely and show yourself up for who you truly are. Let's back up for a second, and take a look at what all this was originally about, eh? You posted screenshots apparently showing a trusted, and valued member of the community to be zerging. Yet, when said screenies were proven to be doctored, and you got called out on this, you turn it all around and attempt to play the victims. It'd be laughable, if it wasn't so predictable.

TL;DR for you. Get over yourselves. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

16:06, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Shut up woman. Gender equality will never be a possibility until you are able to enjoy rape as much as a man can, until then go make a sandwich and stop playing urban dead. At least I am not paying for a forum. 14:36, 27 May 2011 (BST)

What gives you the idea i'm a woman? Why dont you stop pretending you're anything but some insignificant little anonymous pubbie coward that has to hide behind a newly created account. - Glad you arent paying for a forum - Serious Post. Please do not silly. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 15:01, 27 May 2011 (BST)

lol holy fuck kiddo you're exactly the sort of thing that draws goons to this game you know so you can give yourself a pat on the back for providing us the moral high ground to burn Malton to the ground and murder all of its miserable fuckwad inhabitants like yourself--||||||||||||||||||||||||| 08:12, 27 May 2011 (BST)

Ta-daaa! Tired old routine, hymnsheets, etc... ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

16:06, 27 May 2011 (BST)