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Shortcut: FA/C Featured Article Candidates Evaluation for featured article (FA) status takes place here. Any page is eligible to be submitted for evaluation, including group pages and user pages. The only requisite is that the page follows the criteria; it doesn't need to be satisfied absolutely. Ultimately the page should be something the community wants to be placed on the main page, where it's highly visible and assumed to be exemplary; it should fulfill some notion of special. In determining whether or not a page becomes featured, the candidate will be discussed and if there are no major concerns raised at the end of 7 days, the page will achieve featured status. During the 7 days any major concerns can be addressed, either by refuting them or improving the page to fix the problem. If discussion on the candidate goes further than 7 days, participants may continue discussing or altering the page without the submission being automatically closed. Please note this is not a vote. When making a supporting or opposing claim, back up the claim with reasons or evidence. However, there should be at least three users commenting on a submission for the submission process to be considered valid. This is to avoid a page slipping through unnoticed. Be aware that the criteria for different types of candidates—articles, groups, and user pages—changes to reflect different requirements; it does not make sense, for example, to have "neutrality" as a criteria for user pages. Remember these are guidelines only and candidates do not need to follow the criteria to the letter. Articles that achieve featured article status should have the FA star () placed on the page. If at sometime, after a page has achieved featured status, substantial changes are made that seem to degenerate the page past the level at which it was submitted, then the page can be resubmitted here and be re-evaluated. The same criteria and process follows; if a major concern is raised that cannot be addressed, then the page loses its featured status.

Format

• Submit candidates under the appropriate header (Articles, Group pages, User Pages), beneath its respective Candidates header.
• Make a level four header with the linked name of the page you are submitting.
• Make a level five header labelled Comments and put in brackets the name of the page your submitting (so that someone can jump to individual comment sections which otherwise would be identical and dysfunctional). The comment section is a free-for-all discussion, so there's no need for supporting or opposing headers, numbering or bullet-pointing, nor bolding anything.

Example

• Substitute the text in RED CAPITALS with the details of your submission.

==Articles==
===Article Criteria===
[...]
===Article Candidates===
====[[EXAMPLE ARTICLE FA CANDIDATE]]====
TEXT EXPLAINING WHY YOU THINK THE PAGE SHOULD BE FEATURED. ~~~~
=====Comments (EXAMPLE ARTICLE FA CANDIDATE)=====
COMMENTS SUPPORTING OR OPPOSING SUBMISSIONS, WITH REASONS.
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To see content examples and information on what's expected of candidates and discussion, go here.

Articles

These include glossary pages, event pages including historical events, locations, guides and tactics.

Article Criteria

1. NPOV - The article must be from a neutral point of view; articles should avoid taking sides (such as emphasizing zombies over humans, or a particular group or opinion). Exceptions may be made, depending on the article and community decision.
2. Complete - No major facts or details are neglected; it is finished as can be.
3. Well Written - The writing is grammatically correct and clear; it communicates what it's trying to say.
4. Generally Awesome - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.

Article Candidates

Submit candidates here.

Gameplay

Withdrawn as it is already featured. Oops! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Was approved as a Good Article in December-January 2010-11, but never received Featured Article status. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Gameplay)

Against Just seems a bit redundant. Its a link to other pages, not a page in itself. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:23, 23 August 2012 (BST)

I'm with Ross. Very nicely formatted. Useful information. But it's more or less a summary page, rather than being something unique unto itself. All of the information it talks about is better stated somewhere else. —Aichon— 00:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Articles voted in GA should be grandfathered in. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Why? Especially so in this one's case, since there was quite a bit of opposition to it in its initial nomination. It's a good page, no doubt. It should probably be permanently linked from the front page as a useful beginner's resource. But it's not awesome by any means or worthy of being featured. —Aichon— 01:12, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Because every other Good Article is featured except for these two. I'm sure there were other GAs that squeaked by that are on the featured list. ~ _{01:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

That kinda sounds like "just because" rather than because the article actually has merit justifying that it be featured. Is there any argument based on the article's merit for why it should be featured instead of permanently linked from the front page? As I said, it's definitely a good article, but I can see why it stayed in limbo there, since there's nothing noteworthy about it that justifies featuring it. —Aichon— 01:31, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Actually I just checked and it is already featured. Bob must have overlooked it. ~ _{01:47, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

It was never marked with the template or protected for some reason. I still think it's silly that it's featured instead of permanently linked though. It's a great summary that should always be readily accessible to newcomers, yet it isn't a singularly awesome page that deserves the sort of featuring that FA offers. —Aichon— 01:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Major oops. Although if there are enough objections it can be re-submitted as a proposed withdraw from Featured Article status. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Okay, I've put this article up for review below due to the concerns raised above. Please comment there. Thanks! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 03:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Weather

Was unanimously approved as a Good Article in January 2011, but never received Featured Article status. Also, is fantastic. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Weather)

Meh I prefer Snow and Fog myself. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:24, 23 August 2012 (BST)

I like it, but I want more of it before I'd say yes for it as an FA. More or less, have it get fleshed out first. More flavor text, in particular. It feels lacking for an FA on that topic. —Aichon— 00:20, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Such as? I removed the flavor text because of POV. What sort of things would you like to see expanded?-MHSstaff 02:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

To be honest, I'm not sure. Maybe some historical notes on weather patterns? Make some humorous references to the effects of global warming in Malton? I dunno. It feels like it could use another paragraph or two at the end, to me, and maybe making the stuff at the end be formatted a bit differently? As I said, I like it, but I just want more of it. —Aichon— 17:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Gameplay. Should be grandfathered in. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

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You know you've been playing Urban Dead too much when

Substantial, hilarious, and now consistently formatted. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (You know you've been playing Urban Dead too much when)

Yep Might put an introduction paragraph on it. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:26, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. —Aichon— 00:20, 24 August 2012 (BST)

YesI like the idea of having more humorous pages grace the frontpage. This is straightforward and accessible. Might add "Comments on Featured Articles/Candidates" to the list though-- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Add intro. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

yes D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Personally, I've never liked these type of articles because they strike me as somewhat "lazy," but this one is not too bad.-MHSstaff 04:25, 24 August 2012 (BST)

no Reading that was tedious... other than 130. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 02:09, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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RNG

A clear explanation of the concept, as well as how it features in Urban Dead. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (RNG)

Against Just, plain, dull. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:26, 23 August 2012 (BST)

I'm for it. While it is dry, I think it's still well-written and is something that could use more public awareness. —Aichon— 00:22, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I prefer the Old Testimate version. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Yes it's great. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:54, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Against Merge with groove theory and we'll talk.-MHSstaff 02:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes, I up to reading two and this one was by far more entertaining. It would be nice to throw a paragraph at the end about Groove Theory. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 02:13, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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Civilian skills

All the skills articles are complete, clear and concise. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Civilian Skills)

Against We already have Civilian on the list, redundant. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:27, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. —Aichon— 00:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

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Military skills

See Civilian skills. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Military skills)

Against We already have Military on the list, redundant. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:27, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. —Aichon— 00:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

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Science skills

See Civilian skills. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Science skills)

Against We already have Scientist on the list, redundant. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:28, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. —Aichon— 00:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. ~ _{00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

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Zombie skills

See Civilian skills. This one is especially complete, with a table indicating the attack-skill combo results. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Zombie skills)

Against We already have Zombie on the list, redundant. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:28, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. —Aichon— 00:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Zombie Hunter skills

Withdrawn as it's been moved to Headshot and is now poorly designed (and incomplete, see comments) for that article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 14:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)

See Civilian skills. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Zombie Hunter skills)

Alter Personally, I'd love to Move this to Headshot instead of the other way around. Then I'd keep it, as its historic. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:29, 23 August 2012 (BST)

And it needs a monroeville extension. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:30, 23 August 2012 (BST)

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Groove theory

Contains explanation of what it is, as well as an important historical document. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Groove theory)

Against Needs formatting. Big Time.--Ross^WHO????ness 22:11, 23 August 2012 (BST)

It's a neat idea (and I was even the one who ended up reporting it and getting it fixed the most recent time it was "fixed"), but that page is poorly written and needs formatting. —Aichon— 00:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Its irrevelevant now. A nice companion to RNG for historical purpose. Maybe merge relevant info into RNG. ~ _{00:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

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Malton Incident

No longer just a text wall, this critical article is now ready to be featured. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Malton Incident)

Against Prefer possible causes....--Ross^WHO????ness 22:11, 23 August 2012 (BST)

It really needs to be broken up into some subheadings still, and aligning some of those pics on the left would help break it up visually too. I may have more things later. —Aichon— 00:31, 24 August 2012 (BST)

No - horrible blocks of paragraphs, doesn't have nice links to other parts of the wiki D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)

tl:dr I skipped around some. If it was less painful to read (read: broken into sections), it would be better. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 02:33, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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The Alner Family

The most complete Family article on the wiki. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Alner Family)

Maybe. An interesting page, but not sure if worthy. --Ross^WHO????ness 22:20, 23 August 2012 (BST)

That is awesome. Absolutely yes. —Aichon— 00:33, 24 August 2012 (BST)

The detail on this helps give substance to Malton's back-story. I am for it. -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Lol who the fuck wrote this? Someone had absolutely no life haha. I also misread the family tree and thought there was 4 generations of inbreeding. Oops. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:57, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes also what DDR said. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 03:00, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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Anne General Hospital (Dulston)

A location with a rich and well-documented history. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Anne General Hospital (Dulston))

MehNot really sure locations should really be on this list. Apart from maybe Danger Alley --Ross^WHO????ness 22:23, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Just not feeling it, to be honest. Not awesome enough. —Aichon— 00:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Nah. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

The only thing I hate more than the location pages are the skill pages. And I really hate skill pages.-MHSstaff 03:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Nah. This place has been infested with zombies for like 4 years now. Does not really match up with its page description.--Alice Gravesend 20:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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The Battle of SantLUEville

One of the better-written Historical Event articles. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Battle of SantLUEville)

Yep --Ross^WHO????ness 22:23, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Absolutely. —Aichon— 00:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Was boss as fuck. hell yeah. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:59, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes please. A fascinating read.-MHSstaff 03:04, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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The Borehamwood 100

Since we need some non-Malton featured articles other than these and two. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Borehamwood 100)

Yep Needs reformatting. --Ross^WHO????ness 22:24, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Not until the formatting is fixed to be something legible. —Aichon— 00:35, 24 August 2012 (BST)

yes anyway. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:00, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Also might be more interesting if the dead were arranged chronologically, or at least alphabetically.-MHSstaff 17:46, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Building Types

Quite complete & informative. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Building Types)

Yep But needs reformatting. --Ross^WHO????ness 22:21, 23 August 2012 (BST)

especially moving the contents list to the right. --Ross^WHO????ness 22:25, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Ugh, I tried moving it but the author used clear:both on the images. That needs to be fixed. Formatting seems rather patched together. I like it otherwise. ~ _{01:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

It's a bit ugly and the topic just seems dumb to me... Wouldn't be totally against I guess. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:01, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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The Burchell Arms

One of the most flavorful location articles in the game. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Burchell Arms)

I'm for it. —Aichon— 00:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I agree with bobs summary --Ross^WHO????ness 00:41, 24 August 2012 (BST)

meh D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:01, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For it. --Alice Gravesend 20:42, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For it! Jesus Sante ^CFT 03:34, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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Clothes

Complete & informative, with some helpful images. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Clothes)

Informative, yes. Also, very tedious. I'd love a more summarized version of that page. —Aichon— 00:38, 24 August 2012 (BST)

There must be a better way of doing this. Also Monroeville had a few specific items not mentioned, for Video Cameras. --Ross^WHO????ness 00:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I agree that this page has some faults and is not complete or easy to navigate. If the "Category:Items" page were not so ugly, I might suggest it here instead. It has a link to clothes and covers the other cities. It serves as a useful hub. Problem is I cannot abide blue on blue and centered. Other problem is that, while useful, it is not interesting.-- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Add capitals to that list of colours. Other than that, not bad, wouldn't be against it. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Against Tedious and soul-crushing to read. A real bear to read through to the end. -MHSstaff 03:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Dark

An excellent article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Dark)

Yep Its a good page to read, plus I love the picture. --Ross^WHO????ness 22:26, 23 August 2012 (BST)

yes Useful and well done -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

I agree with those above me. Looks good. —Aichon— 00:39, 24 August 2012 (BST)

So beautiful :') D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For - But needs "You are likely to be eaten by a grue" squeezed into it somewhere. -- Spiderzed█ 16:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Downe Towers

Flavorful location article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Downe Towers)

Totally Meh --Ross^WHO????ness 00:45, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Not as interesting as some of the others. Not feeling it. —Aichon— 01:12, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I really just odnt like the idea of locations in general, particularly when the most updated ones with flavour havent been touched in a year and contain a bunch of outdated data D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:05, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Downe towers?! Really? Uh, no.--Alice Gravesend 20:54, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Dr. Schwan's Culinary

I think this one speaks for itself. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Dr. Schwan's Culinary)

For I find fiction/humor often underrepresented. Same reason I am for the "you know you've been playing..." page. This one serves a different purpose in a similar way. On the frontpage, there are links to tactics and resources but human interest is harder to come by. This shows the wiki is for more than just instruction manuals on the game. Plus I am a giant egomaniac. -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

For Several of the current FAs are either dry, boring, or redundant versions of things already explained in game. This isn't one of them.-MHSstaff 02:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Fuck it's long. but the images alone are excellent D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)

*carefully weaves around the fact he didn't read past the first paragraph* D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:07, 24 August 2012 (BST)

My problem with these has always been stylistic. I really don't like grey. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I just don't like that particular shade of gray. I'm fine with gray in general. Also, I'd love to see some word wrap around the images, rather than having them all displace text as they do. —Aichon— 15:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yeah, maybe lighten the gray a bit more to get more contrast.-MHSstaff 17:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Grey lightened to gainsboro, format adjusted slightly, and text made to flow around images. This has the added benefit of making it look less long.-- Albert Schwan  _{Saturday, 25 August 2012}

Better, but mix it up a bit. Right align some of the images to vary it up visually as you go down the page, and maybe toss in some padding on them too, since otherwise it can still be difficult to read. —Aichon— 00:17, 25 August 2012 (BST)

Adjusted image padding and tried to alternate direction of float for images but alternating direction garbled the page. The images look a lot better to me on the left. Simplified page header.-- Albert Schwan  _{Saturday, 25 August 2012}

Zzzzzzzzzz. No.--Alice Gravesend 20:57, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Firearms

Includes images & informative table. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Firearms)

Not against it. It's exacrly what you expect and not ugly either. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:08, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Against It's not good, it's just functional. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:31, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'm for it. It's good, functional, laid out very well, and has all the information you could want. Yes, it's mostly just data, but I think this is one of the few examples of a data-heavy page being done well. —Aichon— 15:44, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I hate the page design, and it's functional as Ross says. It really should be merged with the other weapon articles and resubmitted.-MHSstaff 17:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Great Fire of 1912

Probably the most important pre-2005 incident in Malton history. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Great Fire of 1912)

Dump the ALiM banner up top and maybe we'll talk.-MHSstaff 04:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For Shit's so ALiM --Ross^WHO????ness 10:32, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Definitely for it, since it's one of the best known fictional events in the history of Malton. That said, I'm with MHSstaff: dump the ALiM banner. I might even suggest removing the 2 Cola link near the top, since I wouldn't want stuff like that being only a click or two away from the front page. —Aichon— 15:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Ha. Lord do I love boobs. --Ross^WHO????ness 15:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Against its stupid. Is there something funny about it I'm missing? Standard Zombie 17:18, 26 August 2012 (BST)

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Guides:Feral Death-Cultist Guide

Solid Good Guide. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:Feral Death-Cultist Guide)

Remove mention of Feral Undead and feral zombies at top and work on more comprehensive intro to the concept. Tactics in this article are not specific to the FU or to feral zombies in general and the concept of Death Culting is not self explanatory. -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

I really like the parachuting box idea. But as Schwan. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:33, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I wouldn't remove the feral bits, since it is focussed on feral zombies who operate either completely on their own, or in such a losely-knit "group" like FU. While a lot of it can also be applied to coordinated groups, they have very different means. The FU references aren't that crucial, though, and could go if necessary.
As for death-culting in general, what else needs to explained? "fun things to do as a die-hard zombie when you get revived and want to use the assets of the breathers against them" is IMHO summing up everything neatly in a single sentence, but I might be biased. -- Spiderzed█ 16:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

It needs a better introduction, prettying up, and a touch of refinement before it'll be ready, I think. —Aichon— 15:49, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'm the original creator, and I'm downright amazed to see that popping up more than 2 years after the fact. If there are any suggestions, I'm listening. -- Spiderzed█ 16:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Besides getting revives, what other key differences do you see between a feral DC and a group DC? Touching on / emphasizing that a little more would help distinguish this as a feral guide. Otherwise, as Aichon. It's not quite there yet but easily could be.-MHSstaff 17:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Internal revives is one thing. The other is the scope of actions accomplished. A coordinated group of DCs can easily hope to squash a tightly packed TRP like an NT or a hospital and get away with pinataing it. A single feral DC will need to be more picky to get the most bang for the buck, or to live with the consequences of not going the full mile. Some other tactics, like groaning from a barricaded building, are also more worthwhile for ferals than they are for parts of coordinated zombie groups. - But what mostly keeps me back is that I have little experience within coordinated death-cults. I'm most experienced with rhe feral death-cultist, so that is what I'm most comfortable writing about. Telling the Gore Corps how to go about Gore Corps'ing feels silly to me given the angle I take in actual play. -- Spiderzed█ 21:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)

On second look, I retract what I said about removing ferals entirely. The first section has some things about revives specifically for them. Somewhere in an intro it might help to make the difference that is hinted at in this section more explicit. I still argue that the FU reference is out of place other than maybe as context in a reworked introduction. Personally, I would remove it as the FU and their policy on feral members is beside the point and not addressed as I see it in the guide proper. As for the intro, I think my problem with it boils down to the fact that it is written in a "this is a cat. It is going to do cat things" sort of style. In an intro, I would think that one should introduce the cat and hint at why the cat is worth talking about. In this case, the cat is the guide rather than the death-cultist. Forgive the opaque metaphor but that is the best way I can describe it. -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Leave the Feral Undead alone. They wrote this guide and removing them from it erases a piece of UD history. --WanYao

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Guides:Ghost Town Reclamation

One of the best-done guides I've seen. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:Ghost Town Reclamation)

Yep Biased. --Ross^WHO????ness 22:27, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Bob.-MHSstaff 03:45, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. FA can always be improved by adding moar Ross. There isn't really much similar to this article, and neither leaves this article much room for improved articles on the same topic. -- Spiderzed█ 16:05, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yep. Good guide on a good topic. —Aichon— 16:13, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Guides:Kill Probability

Extremely useful and well-done tables. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:Kill Probability)

Meh. Sure I've seen this somewhere else, done in a better way. Perhaps one of the guides? --Ross^WHO????ness 10:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Perhaps you mean Guides:Damage Per Action? I find G:DPA more comprehensive and grokkable, while the advantage of G:KP is rather detail and exhaustiveness. Not sure if either is FA material. -- Spiderzed█ 16:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Easily my favorite data-heavy presentation anywhere on the wiki. Beautifully presented in a clear manner. Definitely deserving of FA status. It needs to be seen by more people. —Aichon— 16:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Aichon. The charts alone rock.-MHSstaff 17:28, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Guides:kiZombie-English Dictionary

Extensive, useful and flavorful. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:kiZombie-English Dictionary)

Yes For my money, one of the more useful pages on the wiki. Wish more people would use it.-- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Guides:The Zombie Lexicon is already featured. Do we need both? The dictionary and Zamgrh are both linked at the top of the article. ~ _{02:07, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Links are prominent. Guides:The Zombie Lexicon is a lot less user friendly in my mind than either of the other two pages and might dissuade some from getting interested in death rattle, but it is already featured. I withdraw my yes-- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

The dictionary is definitely a better reference and learning tool. Actually I think the Lexicon should be updated with more prominent links to the dictionary. Not long ago, the dictionary was updated pretty regularly. ~ _{02:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

rewrite the introduction and we've got a deal. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:35, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Not in favor. It's too exhaustive for its own good. It's only useful as a reference for looking up a word you heard, not for casual perusal, simply due to its length. —Aichon— 16:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Guides:Managing Encumbrance

Good explanation of one of Urban Dead's most significant features. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:Managing Encumbrance)

For. It was robbed during Featured Guides voting. Reached 71% in favor and would have passed if votes had been updated after changes were made. ~ _{02:11, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Not sure why this is not a featured guide.-MHSstaff 04:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yarp. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:36, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Sure. Works for me. —Aichon— 16:25, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. As for G/R, feel free to retry. We don't really have a rule against retrying but the Rule of Popcorn-Throwing. -- Spiderzed█ 16:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

ForGood guide, nice template, easier to read than typical game strategy guides. -- Albert Schwan  _{Saturday, 25 August 2012}

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Harman for the Holidays

Quite the event from the look of it. Also super-flavorful. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Harman for the Holidays)

Incomplete. Who won? Is this an event or a song contest? Either way, that information is missing.-MHSstaff 03:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Will update with winner and link to Harman for the Holidays 2:Revenge of the Harman once I dig the winner out of my archives. In answer to your question, it was an event that was centered around a song contest.-- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Done and done-- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

What happened with the decorations and caroling contests?-MHSstaff 17:39, 24 August 2012 (BST)

The caroling contest winner is flagged on the page next to the title of the winning song and on the discussion page. The decorations contest was dropped for lack of sufficient formal entries, opting instead for the lights map which shows that substantial anonymous decorating was done. -- Albert Schwan  _{Saturday, 25 August 2012}

I'm in favor. —Aichon— 16:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Hiding In Plain Sight

Since we need more featured tactics. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Hiding In Plain Sight)

I stared atnthis one for a good while before it was brought here trying to find a way to improve it but nothing came to mind. Its just...clunky, I guess is how I'd describe it. Don't know if its salvagble. ~ _{02:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Pictures, formatting? I'm more than happy to tweak this. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:38, 24 August 2012 (BST)

It's too long and verbose, especially the introduction. I'd start with trimming it down.-MHSstaff 17:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As the others. It needs something to make it awesome. It can get there though. —Aichon— 16:31, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Invasion of Gibsonton

A historical event with a well-written article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Invasion of Gibsonton)

Need to fix those red links. --Ross^WHO????ness 11:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Islands

Simple, clear article on an interesting topic. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Islands)

Add a picture, top right, giving an example. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:39, 24 August 2012 (BST)

To me, this comes across more as an observation, rather than an article. It would be nice if the larger islands were fleshed out more, perhaps with a map for each one showing where they are. I'd keep the larger Malton one but dump the DS levels and highlight the islands a little more. The map also has an offset problem. -MHSstaff 17:24, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Malton

Now that there's a mini-timeline, let's see if this gets featured. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Malton)

Yes. Maybe change the last paragraph so that its not so present tense. ~ _{02:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

As Vapor. Also, it's missing BB3 in 2010, which, together with RRF and MOB, helped to swing the game's ratio much more towards the zombie side than it had been in quite awhile. —Aichon— 16:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Malton Rail

I'm including its four sub-articles in this nomination. Does that work? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Malton Rail)

Nope, its a nice framework, but underdeveloped. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:40, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. It'd need a lot more before it was ready. —Aichon— 16:45, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Melee Weapons

Counterpart to Firearms. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Melee Weapons)

Nope See my comments on firearms. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:40, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yep. See my comments on firearms. :P —Aichon— 16:47, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Miracle Mile Mall (Monroeville)

A Monroeville location article that's not a total stub. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Miracle Mile Mall (Monroeville))

There is a big gap between stubs and awesome articles that should be featured. This doesn't get there. There are better location / building ones than this as well.-MHSstaff 04:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'd say in fairness this is one of the best mall pages out there, but I don't feel it. Also is the computer system sentient like 2001, or does it have robot security guards in a Chopping Mall stylee? --Ross^WHO????ness 10:42, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Now Playing

Complete & very flavorful. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Now Playing)

Ok I guess. Nothing really special about a random listing of films.-MHSstaff 04:20, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As MHS --Ross^WHO????ness 10:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)

This has a "what the hell is this?" factor to it that is undesirable in Featured Articles. The worth or value of an FA should be apparent. I see none here, though it is a different sort of novelty page than we usually see. —Aichon— 16:49, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Play Style

Interesting article, and I love the little half-zombies. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Play Style)

Yes Ive never seen this page. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:35, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. Its as complete as I could think to make it. ~ _{05:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Yes. The only thing this page lacks are a couple of examples to go with each entry. E.g., I wouldn't know a human-zombie alliance, zombie organization or entertainment group off the top of my head. -- Spiderzed█ 16:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Drama Club, Axes High for two of them. --Ross^WHO????ness 16:22, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yep. Loved this page ever since I found it a few years ago. That said, I wouldn't add examples. I like the fact that it weaves around playing favorites beautifully while still explaining all of the concepts well. —Aichon— 16:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Good point about playing favourites. Singling out 1-2 archetypical groups might lead to some drama by those who aren't picked. -- Spiderzed█ 17:11, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I gave each section a link to group style categories (where they existed) and links to main articles (where they existed). My concern is that I included some too-obscure play styles or missed some more entirely. I'm thinking of removing Wiki Groups since that's not really a play style. Any other changes I should address? ~ _{17:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)}

Great article that explains the different playstyles clearly and concisely.-MHSstaff 17:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For with one alteration. Life-Cultists can be trans-mortal as is the case with pinata forts and your typical on-site revive after attacks of opportunity. The latter I think is the most used form of the tactic as I see it. Personally, I would not lump them in with ZKers either as even the example provided admits that the K is often not present and ZKers who adopt it as a principle playing style by definition are strictly zombies, but I can see how in most cases it is an accurate enough. Otherwise, this is a clear guide with a good format that is highly useful to new players who often have trouble getting anywhere on the wiki other than the map. -- Albert Schwan  _{Saturday, 25 August 2012}

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Possible Causes for the Situation

Explains the newspapers and other theories. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Possible Causes for the Situation)

Not big on the title but I like this one more than Malton Incident. ~ _{05:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

As vape. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:44, 24 August 2012 (BST)

It needs a lot of cleaning up and formatting before it'd be ready. Also, a proper introduction. —Aichon— 16:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I kind like this one, both from a fiction/backstory standpoint and the connection to an in-game item (newspapers).-MHSstaff 18:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Sacred Ground Policy

One of the most well-known Survivor "policies". Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Sacred Ground Policy)

It's probably the most significant survivor policy, but the page is mostly a list of names, and the rest merely declares cemeteries to be RPs. Not particularly interesting. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:18, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Meh. Didn't amazing come up with this? He can rewrite it. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:45, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'm with AHLG. —Aichon— 16:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Indeed, I came up with it, so we need to figure out why it can't be featured. Seems we have a good start above. BAZOOM. -- ™ & © Amazing, INC. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 03:36, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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Salt The Land Policy

And a major policy on the Zombie side. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Salt The Land Policy)

Yep --Ross^WHO????ness 21:20, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Abstain - The policy itself is relevant, but the taint of Extinction's grubby zergling fingers is hard to wash off. -- Spiderzed█ 16:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I really feel we're beyond that now. Extinction are, and for some of us, always have been joke. Many more serious groups play this way. Just delete any mention of the zerging fuckers. --Ross^WHO????ness 16:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Santlerville Guide Book

Really makes me want to visit Santlerville. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Santlerville Guide Book)

Against Dull, not enough pictures. Less a guide, more a description. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:21, 23 August 2012 (BST)

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Second Siege of Ackland Mall

Contains both event description and historical analysis. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Second Siege of Ackland Mall)

Shortest siege in recorded history? Really noteworthy? --Ross^WHO????ness 11:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. —Aichon— 16:56, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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St. Barbara's Church

Super-flavorful location article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (St. Barbara's Church)

Maybe, theres a lot of great work on display here. --Ross^WHO????ness 11:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I've been aware of the church and that it had been linked to Barbara from the movie, but I had never read that page before. That is awesome. Easily worth featuring. —Aichon— 16:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. I've thought this page has been overlooked for quite some time.--Alice Gravesend 20:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Tactical Resource Point

Explains an important Urban Dead concept well. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Tactical Resource Point)

I think this could be fleshed out more. -MHSstaff 03:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Cross link with Spawning, flesh it out a bit, explain how it works ingame. --Ross^WHO????ness 11:22, 24 August 2012 (BST)

You just want Spawning linked. :P But yes, it does need a lot more fleshing out. Perhaps some discussion regarding their importance in different situations. —Aichon— 17:00, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Also something about good trp clusters may be a good addition. The classic NT,Factory,Hospital set up is always a winner. --Ross^WHO????ness 17:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Exactly. That'd be a great addition. —Aichon— 17:35, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Tidal Tactics

A major tactic article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Tidal Tactics)

Probably yes. --Ross^WHO????ness 11:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Wall of text. It needs some more stuff to help break it up a bit. —Aichon— 17:01, 24 August 2012 (BST)

+Image. 00:55, 25 August 2012 (BST)

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Types of Museums

Means I can always locate the nearest Pottery Museum to satisfy my love of first-millennium terracotta. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Types of Museums)

Against the kind of page that could really do with being sexed up. Also, I think it should include unique museum dedicated to duke garland. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:16, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Also against A dry page overall. A nice jazzed up page on building types that includes a link here might be worth a look if there is not already one in this category. -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

Agree with the others. It needs some descriptions from each, maybe a little flavor as well. And, really, exhaustive lists like these are not worth featuring unless they are of obvious importance or usefulness. —Aichon— 17:02, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Useful Items

Can you tell I'm running out of descriptions for these nominations? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Useful Items)

Design is pretty ugly and is hard to read. Not very interesting.-MHSstaff 03:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)

See Firearms comment. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:46, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'm for it. See comments for firearms above. —Aichon— 17:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Zamgrh

I am a big fan of this article. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Zamgrh)

against While this is a great page, the dictionary nominated elsewhere links here and is more useful. Seems redundant to have both. -- Albert Schwan  _{Friday, 24 August 2012}

agree with schwan. --Ross^WHO????ness 00:47, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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The Zeally Arms

This article must have been written with zeal! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Zeally Arms)

Nope. A poor man's burchell arms. --Ross^WHO????ness 00:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Do you mean the article is a poor man's version of that article, or the location of that location? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:11, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Err, the first one. --Ross^WHO????ness 10:46, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Group Pages

Any group page or group subpage, whether active, inactive, or historical, can be submitted.

Group Page Criteria

1. NPOV - There should be an NPOV lead or introduction, which explains who the group is (e.g. group type, structure, size, creation). Since it's expected that the article is created from the group's perspective, the rest of the page need not be neutral. The NPOV lead only applies to the main group page.
2. Presentation - An interesting and original page design, brought about by the code and any images, is a possible way to satisfy this criterion. Writing style and content can also satisfy the criteria.
3. Well Written - The writing is grammatically correct and clear; it communicates what it's trying to say.
4. Generally Awesome - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.

Group Page Candidates

Big Bash 3

Though I am ridiculously biased, I did think they were well executed pages with a consistent and unique voice, both in terms of how they were designed as well as how they were written. There's a nice humor throughout with the little blurbs at the top of each page, and behind the scenes there are a lot of really cool technical things going on that automated most of the heavy lifting for the horde tracking and the like. It's not historical, perhaps, but it may be an example of interesting design and writing. If nothing else, it'll help us figure out what is or isn't FA worthy. —Aichon— 19:40, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Big Bash 3)

It's a beautiful page, with a one-of-a-kind level of coding as far as that wiki goes. More importantly, it revolves around the major event of 2010. That being said, it failed to get recognized as a historical group (which IMHO it should have been recognized as). I'm on the fence about it and open to persuasion either way. -- Spiderzed█ 19:54, 24 August 2012 (BST)

That's my take. We now have some good test cases for this section: two very prominent group pages, a couple of interesting, technical and unique subpages, and a fiction/news media conglomerate, which should give us a lot if information on what people want. As far as BB3, I think it is an absolutely beautiful page, both from design as well as content. It should also be historical (IMO). The only thing that makes me hesitate slightly is I wonder if we should have a BB overview one that links to the other three ones?-MHSstaff 20:00, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I was actually thinking the same thing yesterday. Maybe a category page that's been gussied up to look all purty. If so, that would probably be a better page to feature. —Aichon— 20:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Gotten a very rough start on a design for a potential combined page. —Aichon— 00:18, 25 August 2012 (BST) 1 person likes this comment.

I like the design. Transclude the opening blurbs and you are probably there.-MHSstaff 02:11, 26 August 2012 (BST)

The page is excellently formatted and informative, but I don't think it's quite feature-worthy. I think something more historical (like the Big Bash unified page mentioned above) would get more support from me for featuring. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Glad that this was put forward. It was on my short list of groups to nominate. I like what Aichon is doing with the Big Bash overview. I'd say wait until that's through but I'd also be fine featuring Big Bash 3. Also, it was my main inspiration behind the design of October Bash and October Bash 2 as if that wasn't obvious. ~ _{16:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)}

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Burchell Arms Regulars

One of the best group pages I have come across.-MHSstaff 18:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Burchell Arms Regulars)

Rather the location page. --Ross^WHO????ness 18:29, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I don't know. I think the group page just has this great balance between content and aesthetics.-MHSstaff 18:33, 24 August 2012 (BST)

If the Burchell Arms gets featured, then I'd be against this as too close in topic (which seems to be an issue with the "Skills" articles above, e.g.), but if that one doesn't, then I have no objections. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Totally biased, but the group page is updated more often and more keeping in tone with what the Burch is really like. In some ways the group page is a better descriptor of the Burch than the location page is. Jesus Sante ^CFT 03:50, 25 August 2012 (BST)

As Bob on RRF, its an active group and probably should be featured on the main page. ~ _{16:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)}

I am guessing you probably mean "should not be featured." -MHSstaff 02:09, 26 August 2012 (BST)

Yes that's what I meant. If there is a BAR subpage worth featuring, we can look at that but featuring an active group's main page just feels too much like free advertisement. ~ _{02:36, 26 August 2012 (UTC)}

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Militant Order of Barhah/Locator

I like maps and timelines, and this is one of the more detailed ones for a group.-MHSstaff 18:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (MOB Locator)

Yep, good meta information. --Ross^WHO????ness 18:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. Thanks for submitting these group pages, MHSstaff! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Ridleybank Resistance Front

One of the oldest, continually running groups in the game.-MHSstaff 18:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (RRF)

Hmm. Im struggling with this in itself, and indeed with all group pages. Plus we are all going to come into this biased. Hmm. Argh. --Ross^WHO????ness 18:32, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I can see where you are coming from, and I am not entirely sure of the answer myself. I think the page should be exemplary in some fashion.-MHSstaff 18:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yeah, neither can I. Immediately I think Monroeville Many, and then I think, but thats just ridiculous self promotion. I like sub pages, like the tracker, because its a good tool for all. Survivors can avoid the MOB, new zombies can follow it. I can't argue it's not a gorgeous page, but its also a massive advertisement. As a follow up, are there any of the historic groups we could put in this category? --Ross^WHO????ness 18:41, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Maybe we should focus on pages that are unique and special, and make an historic group overview one for all the HGs?-MHSstaff 18:46, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Nice. --Ross^WHO????ness 18:51, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I thought about tossing up BB3 here, but then I realized it really was probably just my bias at play, even if I do think it's well-designed, executed, and written. Even with the MOB Locator, I was one of its chief editors for about a year, so it's very hard for me to look at it objectively, though, strangely, all I see are flaws in it. >_< —Aichon— 18:57, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Honestly, I don't think it really matters who submits something; if there are problems or things that should be reconsidered, they should come out here so you might as well throw it up.-MHSstaff 19:18, 24 August 2012 (BST)

To put things another way, this category is new and the only way we are going to find out what the community wants in terms of group pages as FAs is by submitting a bunch of stuff. Otherwise, we'll wind up with a bunch of flavorless and dry category pages where you too can scroll through hundreds of random game items or shitty building types/locations.-MHSstaff 19:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

So first, I'm one of the few people anywhere never to have interacted with the RRF in-game, so my comment is not colored by that. That said, I'm kind of uncomfortable with featuring the main page of any group that's still active, since that seems like pretty close to free and unbalanced main-page advertising. I like the MOB Locator and Herald & Sun because they are subpages with their own content worth featuring. If a group were inactive I wouldn't have this issue. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

That's a good point actually.-MHSstaff 23:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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ZomboTracker

A hilarious and well-written counterpart to Weather. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (ZomboTracker)

Against its a fun page, but the super live trackers haven't been updated in two years. Would need to imply some bits are historic. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:15, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Ross. We should update it; I actually like it more for its technical features, both with the wiki switching codes used for the tabs and the maps showing targets and number of times hit as well as horde paths. -MHSstaff 02:19, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'm for it. Regardless of if it's been updated, it's a unique page that deserves to be featured. —Aichon— 17:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Malton Herald & Sun

Given that the wiki has space devoted to journals and fiction, it is clear (to me) that the wiki is here both to educate as well as entertain. As one of the main zombie-centric media outlets, with a collection of over fifty articles and forty issues over a four year span, the MHS does a little of both, ranging from articles covering early game history, to interviews with historic figures from all sides, to reaction pieces on events and in-game trends. Yes, some of it is propaganda, but it is also fun propaganda that I think helps to capture some of the flavor that exists inside and outside the game. -MHSstaff 02:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Malton Herald & Sun)

Yes. Just yes. ~ _{02:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Yup. Most definitely. (and I'm totally not biased because I was interviewed in one issue) —Aichon— 06:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. Well-known and relevant even beyond RRF circles. -- Spiderzed█ 17:08, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. I especially like how issues don't have dates, so it gives the impression it's still updated despite that not being the case. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:24, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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User Pages

Any user page or content can be submitted. For example, journals, works of fiction or stories related to zombies or Urban Dead. Note that user pages being submitted should have their own, dedicated page (a subpage).

User Page Criteria

1. Presentation - An interesting and original page design, brought about by the code and any images, is a possible way to satisfy this criterion. Writing style and content can also satisfy the criteria. User pages that have content consistent with guides or wiki rantings still need to be accurate and complete, similar to the Article Criteria.
2. Well Written - The writing is grammatically correct and clear; it communicates what it's trying to say.
3. Generally Awesome - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.

User Page Candidates

Submit candidates here.

Misanthropy's Map Toolbox

Not sure if this qualifies as a user page, but either way it definitely deserves featuring. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:56, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Misanthropy's Map Toolbox)

Against. Its not a particularly good map, it failed to even get onto the guides page, and its not really that interesting. On another level, surely we should inform users when their user pages are nominated?--Ross^WHO????ness 21:13, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Good idea. I'll let Mis & AHLG know. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 21:16, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Its well written and easy to follow. Only downside is that its only one type of map. I'd like to see a similar map toolbox page with different map styles. ~ _{03:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Such as? (I got time) 05:44, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Such as if I were to do a write up of my experimental map template? It was actually inspired by what you did with your page and your efforts to simplify things for people, but I tried to make things even simpler by hiding away as much code as possible. As you can see, particularly if you look at the code for the demo, it's fairly trivial to do rather complicated things with it with very little need to known CSS or more advanced stuff. One of these days I need to get around to seeing whether or not it's finished and then doing some basic documentation, but I have no plans to do something as nicely written and detailed as what you did. —Aichon— 06:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Aye, that would be a good inclusion. There are many different types of maps. A good guide on some of the more popular types like custom suburb maps would be good. From tiny maps like Aichon's to sprawling city maps or maps that use danger reports. People like to make maps. Let's provide a good guide. ~ _{06:32, 24 August 2012 (UTC)}

Quick note: my map actually isn't tiny. The demo of it just happens to be tiny since I was demoing a minimap. I tried to make The One Map To Rule Them All, so it can be resized, stylized, and changed around pretty much any way you would want with a minimal amount of wikicode knowledge, so long as you need a 10x10 map. As I said, I was trying to reduce complexity for the end user, so part of that meant eliminating the need to have different maps for different things.

Regarding sprawling city maps that user danger reports, Peralta is already working on that after I figured out how to make the code for it work, and that is not the sort of thing you need to bother explaining, since there is only about one way that it can even possibly work without breaking the page. Once someone finishes it, there won't be a need to ever do it again, since it can't be customized or changed at all. That's the sort of thing you show people and link, but don't bother explaining, since they will never have a need to do it themselves. —Aichon— 17:18, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Wasn't really referring to Jhonny's city map. I meant Suburb Danger Report maps like the ones linked at the bottom of Suburb. I'd just like a variety of maps or at least one more with a similar treatment that Mis gave to his map. Also, have to agree with Ross, MisMap is unfortunately not the greatest I've seen. ~ _{16:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)}

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The World of Gnome

What name should this take? "Gnome's Game", "The World of Gnome" or something else? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 20:56, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The World of Gnome)

For If gnome approves. --Ross^WHO????ness 21:13, 23 August 2012 (BST)

I do! Stuck up start page. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Fixed the location of this candidacy. Also, under what name do you think it should go? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 03:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Gnome's Death Orgy?-MHSstaff 03:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

The World of Gnome is just fine. I've never had anything closer than that to a name. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Thanks! Fixed. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 04:12, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Awesomely fun and awesomely special.-MHSstaff 03:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Possibly the most popular user page there is at the moment. For. -- Spiderzed█ 17:07, 24 August 2012 (BST)

How have I not expressed my approval for this page yet? Definitely yes. —Aichon— 17:25, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Scout Safehouse Rant

Because frankly the WikiRantings category is pure gold. --Ross^WHO????ness 13:13, 25 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Scout Safehouse Rant)

The image under the 404 heading is far too bloody wide. You bastard. 13:19, 25 August 2012 (BST)

I agree with the opinions expressed but unsure if such a negative article should be featured on the main page. ~ _{16:43, 25 August 2012 (UTC)}

Concur. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 05:22, 26 August 2012 (BST)

Too much raging against the machine.-MHSstaff 23:02, 25 August 2012 (BST)

Not for it. While I agree with everything it says, I would feel like an ass for putting something on the front page that more or less calls out something the game's creator made as being worthless. —Aichon— 00:20, 26 August 2012 (BST)

Fair enough. I'm a great fan of Category:WikiRantings. It's a great little set, of things. I'll think of another way of promoting it. In the meantime I've fixed up the page so mis and others can view it in low res, and will have a look at Vapors ideas on the level of inefficiency. Do we even have a scout safehouse page? --Ross^WHO????ness 17:40, 26 August 2012 (BST)

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Reviewing Featured Articles

This section is for current Featured Articles for which serious objections or concerns have been raised, and are thus under review as to whether they should retain their FA status.

Gameplay Review

Per the discussion above, the issue that this is mostly just a reference and link page has been brought up. Please comment on whether this article should retain its FA status. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 03:12, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Review Comments (Gameplay)

As per my comments above, I believe that this page is essentially an excellent summary or amalgamation of a number of topics, rather than being a topic unto itself. As such, it's ideal for becoming a permanent fixture on a place like the front page, where it can serve as an effective primer for newcomers to the game. But it lacks the focus on a narrow topic that would make it awesome, since gameplay is anything but a narrow topic. I mean, when I look down the list of FA candidates we have right now and see stuff like epic battle reports, incredibly detailed write ups of features I never knew had so much going on, and intricate fictional histories, I don't see a summary of general gameplay realistically sitting next to them, no matter how well written it is, simply because of what it is. Those things are all awesome. This one isn't, despite its excellence. —Aichon— 03:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I was going to write something, but then I realized Aichon said it all, much better.-MHSstaff 03:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

It's just a good glossary article, nothing particularly special; and there's no way that I can see to make it more special without sacrificing the apt brevity. As Aichon. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Agreed --Ross^WHO????ness 16:57, 24 August 2012 (BST)

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Older Submissions

Older submissions can be found in the archive. For even older submissions, when the good article process was used, see that archive.