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*::::Eh, I guess. Honestly, I may have overstated it, since there is quite a bit of thought that goes into it, but it can definitely look arbitrary at times, since sometimes 2 members is enough and other times 50 members isn't enough. For instance, Abh Star Forces apparently had 50-60 members at one point, but it sounds like they were zerging, so I wouldn't consider them important to a large number of people, meaning that they're not worth saving on the basis of members alone. Similarly, some of the other groups listed only had 1-3 members, yet they put together pages with quite a bit of content, so I would really hate to destroy their work. Calling it a gut feeling based on a holistic consideration of the factors involved would probably be more accurate than "arbitrary", if I were to be honest, but it also takes a lot longer to explain, obviously. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:48, 23 June 2013 (BST)
*::::Eh, I guess. Honestly, I may have overstated it, since there is quite a bit of thought that goes into it, but it can definitely look arbitrary at times, since sometimes 2 members is enough and other times 50 members isn't enough. For instance, Abh Star Forces apparently had 50-60 members at one point, but it sounds like they were zerging, so I wouldn't consider them important to a large number of people, meaning that they're not worth saving on the basis of members alone. Similarly, some of the other groups listed only had 1-3 members, yet they put together pages with quite a bit of content, so I would really hate to destroy their work. Calling it a gut feeling based on a holistic consideration of the factors involved would probably be more accurate than "arbitrary", if I were to be honest, but it also takes a lot longer to explain, obviously. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:48, 23 June 2013 (BST)
*'''Vouch''' - Bandwagoning --{{User:Armpit_Odor/dnsig}} 16:59, 24 June 2013 (BST)
*'''Vouch''' - Bandwagoning --{{User:Armpit_Odor/dnsig}} 16:59, 24 June 2013 (BST)
*'''Yes''' - '''Vouch''' or '''Keep''', this guy is the best guy. (I must disclaim that I am nowhere near active/wise enough to be listened to). -- <small>[[User:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]] <span style="color: #FF9933">has a signature that won't become obsolete.</span> </small> 15:33, 26 June 2013 (BST)


==Recent Re-evaluations==
==Recent Re-evaluations==

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Once a year, all sitting sysops will come up for re-evaluation by the community. The idea of this re-evaluation is to ensure that each sysop still has the trust of the community, which is vital for a sysop to have. This will give the community a chance to voice their opinions about how the sysops have been doing, and re-affirm or decline their trusted user status.

The idea of a sysop being a trusted user is a part of the guidelines for the general conduct of a sysop. The guidelines for the re-evaluation is the same as for being promoted to a sysop (which is reposted below), but with a few minor changes in wording.

Guidelines for System Operator Re-Evaluations

Once a year, on Urban Dead's birthday (July 3rd), all sysops will be subject to a community discussion. Sysops may also put themselves up for re-evaluation at any time (see below). All users are asked to comment on each candidate in question, ask questions of the candidate, and discuss the candidate's suitability for continuing to be a System Operator. This is not a vote. It is instead merely a request for comments from the wiki community. This will continue for two weeks, as all users get a chance to air their opinions on the candidate.

Once the two weeks are up, the Bureaucrats will review the community discussion and make a decision for each candidate based upon it. The user will be notified of the status of their re-evaluation, and will be retained in their position should it appear that the community is willing to continue to accept them as a System Operator. In the event that the decision is negative, then the sysop will be demoted back to regular user status, where after a month's time, the user can re-submit themself for promotion.

Before users voice their opinions on the candidate who wishes to continue their System Operator status, the following guidelines should be reviewed by the user:

General User Guidelines for System Operator Re-Evaluations

Before voicing their opinion on a candidate's re-evaluation bid, a user should consider some of the following questions:

  • Has the candidate spent significant time within the community as a sysop?
We define this as the candidate having made at least one edit in the past 3 months. It is recommended that a user look over the the sysop activity check and last 500 edits to determine the level of activity of the candidate.
Note: The Truly Inactive Sysops policy dictates that a sysop who hasn't made an edit within four months is automatically demoted. Therefore, for a sysop to be re-evaluated, they need to have made an edit before that time-frame is up.
  • Has the candidate maintained significant activity within the community?
We define this as at least 50 edits under the candidate's name since their last re-evaluation. It is recommended that a user look over the candidate's last 50 edits in order to get a feel for the activity of a candidate.
Note: looking in a User's User contributions might give false results for this criterion, as the edit history used to be periodically purged on this wiki.
  • Has the candidate expressed interest in maintaining the community?
We define this as clear evidence that the candidate is already performing maintenance tasks and continuing taking a leadership role on the wiki.
  • Has the candidate expressed a desire to continue to be a System Operator?
We define this simply as indicating in the candidate's request their desire to continue to maintain the position.
  • Is there an indication of trust in the candidate.
We define this as a minimum of three other users (preferably users with at least 200 edits under their name and at least one System Operator), willing to vouch for the candidate's suitability for the role.

If a candidate is highly exemplary in one guideline, a certain level of flexibility should be extended to the other guidelines. Other guidelines for qualifications may be used, these are just a few suggested things to consider before a user voices their opinion.

Re-Evaluations still open for discussion

There are currently no open Re-Evaluations.

Re-Evaluations still needing to be processed

Aichon

I believe it's that time, so have at it. And to knock out the question up front in case anyone is curious, no, I'm not burned out yet (the 'crat seat was definitely burning me out, but I'm not a 'crat any more, thankfully), and yes, I do plan to be around for awhile longer, otherwise I'd save everyone this hassle and ask for a demotion prior to my A/RE. I may leave before another term is completed, but I currently have no immediate plans to leave, so I may make it the full term. Feel free to ask a question if you have something on your mind. Aichon 14:26, 21 June 2013 (BST)

  • Obvious vouch is obvious. ~Vsig.png 14:47, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Vouch for one of the most active and helpful sysops on the wiki. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:30, 21 June 2013 (BST)
  • If I opened you up, what would I find? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:44, 21 June 2013 (BST)
    I'll get back to you on this. Right now I'm thinking far too literally, and you deserve a better answer than "blood and guts". Aichon 17:36, 21 June 2013 (BST)
    You'd find a little tiny genie who occasionally grants me wishes I don't want and won't let me get to sleep. Aichon 07:44, 22 June 2013 (BST)
    Is the genie blue? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:10, 22 June 2013 (BST)
    Sometimes. Aichon 21:28, 22 June 2013 (BST)
    So it's tie-dye. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:30, 22 June 2013 (BST)
    More like the horse of many colors. Aichon 00:02, 23 June 2013 (BST)
  • Spam -- err, i mean vouch --hagnat 19:01, 21 June 2013 (BST)
  • Vouch Aichon for everything? Moonie Talk Testimonials 01:42, 22 June 2013 (BST)
    Please no. Aichon 07:44, 22 June 2013 (BST)
  • Voouch has earned boxy and ross status. perma sysop!--User:Sexualharrison10:24, 22 June 2013
  • VoucherSon of Sin 14:38, 22 June 2013 (BST)
  • Question What's your opinion on the current debate on my talk page? --Rosslessness 15:58, 23 June 2013 (BST)
    You have a talk page? Lame. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 16:09, 23 June 2013 (BST)
    I think it's nice to see a debate occurring where both sides can engage one another constructively. Too often, they escalate into something silly. Aichon 23:23, 23 June 2013 (BST)
    Oh, wait, did you want my stance in the debate? :P
    Generally speaking, I purposefully stay out of Deletions voting unless I don't think I can afford to sit it out, just because most of it is fairly petty stuff that doesn't matter one way or the other. With regards to group pages, my personal opinion (which, I'll admit, might contradict previous opinions I've expressed) is that unless there is a specific reason to delete them, they should be left alone, but I won't get in the way of others seeking to delete them unless there's evidence that the group once had a decent number of members or the page has a decent amount of content (where "decent" is an entirely arbitrary measure that I use). In this particular case, I was already planning to put in my 2¢ when I saw your question here, since it's clear to me that some of these pages should not have been nominated. Aichon 23:25, 23 June 2013 (BST)
    You see? I'd never have used the word arbitrary. Class act. --Rosslessness 23:29, 23 June 2013 (BST)
    Eh, I guess. Honestly, I may have overstated it, since there is quite a bit of thought that goes into it, but it can definitely look arbitrary at times, since sometimes 2 members is enough and other times 50 members isn't enough. For instance, Abh Star Forces apparently had 50-60 members at one point, but it sounds like they were zerging, so I wouldn't consider them important to a large number of people, meaning that they're not worth saving on the basis of members alone. Similarly, some of the other groups listed only had 1-3 members, yet they put together pages with quite a bit of content, so I would really hate to destroy their work. Calling it a gut feeling based on a holistic consideration of the factors involved would probably be more accurate than "arbitrary", if I were to be honest, but it also takes a lot longer to explain, obviously. Aichon 23:48, 23 June 2013 (BST)
  • Vouch - Bandwagoning --AORDMOPRI ! T 16:59, 24 June 2013 (BST)
  • Yes - Vouch or Keep, this guy is the best guy. (I must disclaim that I am nowhere near active/wise enough to be listened to). -- Rahrah has a signature that won't become obsolete. 15:33, 26 June 2013 (BST)

Recent Re-evaluations

Revenant

What starts with R and is due today? -- Spiderzed 19:50, 10 June 2013 (BST)

What? How did yo— oh. Ohh. Um. Nevermind! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:50, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • Question: Consider this the obligatory question about your lower levels of activity. I understand you're mostly a lurker, but have there been goings-on in your personal life which have caused your contributions to drop to an average about 20 a month, including a three-month period with only 8 edits? And is your activity likely to increase, or at least maintain the level we've seen in the past month? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:29, 10 June 2013 (BST)
    Aye. It's no secret that I have ongoing medical issues, but I have been and continue to be making significant progress even in the last month or so. I make no promises about my activity level, but with renewed energy and time for the game comes more attention to places such as the wiki.
    Ultimately I would ask this of you, and anyone else considering weighing in: am I, in your opinion, more useful as a sysop, or as a regular user? Let your response to that inform your, erm, “voting”. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:37, 11 June 2013 (BST)
    Hmmmm, ok. I'll give a tentative weak vouch due to continued inactivity, but I might change that if convinced by the below. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:23, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • Strong Against: Close to useless. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:12, 10 June 2013 (BST)
    Yes, here I am replying to his strongly odiferous comment. Haw ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:37, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • Question - Are you circumsized? --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 22:25, 10 June 2013 (BST)
    My opinion may hang on your response to this question, Rev. Aichon 05:57, 11 June 2013 (BST)
    Firstly, I believe you mean “circumcised”. Cross arms
    The answer to this question is a matter of public record, as any #redrum regular will tell you. Über
    If you are too impatient or otherwise unable to consult the records, consider that I am Tasmanian. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:37, 11 June 2013 (BST)
    Which could mean either way, since it appears that circumcision is still legal in Tasmania?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 05:13, 13 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep Because reasons. ~Vsig.png 23:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep for reasons --hagnat 00:45, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep for various, arbitrary, standard, atypical as well as outlandish reasons.        04:13, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • If I opened you up, what would I find? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:17, 11 June 2013 (BST)
    Mostly meat and bone, but there's always the REDACTED to spice things up a bit. Wink ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:37, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • Against No More Sysops! Ghostocracy! --Karekmaps 2.0?! 13:51, 11 June 2013 (BST)
    I respect your position and will adhere to it if it reaches a majority. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:37, 11 June 2013 (BST)
  • kitch get a shave and a haircut will ya? your facebook picture is scary.--User:Sexualharrison22:40, 11 June 2013
  • Keep because my system of corruption depends upon his administration.--  Seekandyeshallfind    * 00:58, 12 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep Something something bribery.-- Skoll Die 00:55, 13 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep I have become a fangirl through my lurking. He seemed to be good at what he does. Also, reasons. --Accipere quam facere praestat injuriam. [ talk ] [ KT ] [ BB4 ] 14:36, 13 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep Because stuff. --Z0mb0r 06:48, 14 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep I heard motherfucker had, like, thirty goddamn dicks. --RadicalWhig 07:04, 14 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep Very good person. --Surgeon General of the City of MaltonAnja 08:32, 14 June 2013 (BST)
  • He does a reasonable job (or nothing at all) most of the time... and then the goons come to town and he goes feral. Meh -- boxy 03:04, 15 June 2013 (BST)
    • Yay! Tribalism! (There are more goons here that you think. Many of whom would surprise you.)
      If you think about it, isn't your objection precisely the oppposite of going feral? Food for thought. psyduck ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 03:33, 15 June 2013 (BST)
  • What the hell?  CrunchyCake  T  Breakfast Club 03:58, 15 June 2013 (BST)
  • Keep!*** it puts the lotion in the gold basket --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 11:53, 15 June 2013 (BST)
  • Super Strongly Against Repeatedly threatened to unjustly wiki fuck me with his sysop powers and never followed through. What good is a sysop who doesn't even abuse their powers? Moonie Talk Testimonials 12:20, 17 June 2013 (BST)

After a brief discussion with Ross, we have found that a recurring complaint was the lack of activity. You should try to ramp it up a bit in the coming months.
Other than that? Successful. Keep on trucking. -- Spiderzed 20:01, 19 June 2013 (BST)

Rosslessness

Ross is up today. -- Spiderzed 23:15, 3 May 2013 (BST)

  • Weak Against Just because I know its his time to retire. He wanted to be let go so let him go. Doesn't look like he's using buttons. Just make it official. ~Vsig.png 00:56, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! It wasn't my war! You asked me, I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win! And I come back to the world and I see all those maggots at the airport, protesting me, spitting. Calling me baby killer and all kinds of vile crap! Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about! They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:18, 4 May 2013 (BST)
  • Keep - No justification needed --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 02:35, 4 May 2013 (BST)
  • Vouch - If he wants to leave, he can. But I don't want him to, and I'm selfish. Aichon 10:34, 4 May 2013 (BST)
  • Because fuck you vapor! Ross is the tits.--User:Sexualharrison15:06, 4 May 2013
  • It ain't over ’til the fat lady sings. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 06:01, 5 May 2013 (BST)
    • P.S. Ross, how is your singing voice? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 05:59, 6 May 2013 (BST)
      • Reply After a few jars I can belt out an amazing "A whole new world". --Rosslessness 20:29, 6 May 2013 (BST)
  • Vouch Ross must remain until the universe collapses upon itself. --AORDMOPRI ! T 14:49, 5 May 2013 (BST)
  • I'm going to Weak Against because of Ross' lack of enthusiasm, until he confirms he wants to keep the position. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:15, 5 May 2013 (BST)
  • Vouch Fuck off, you stay with your psyop powers ross... i got loose, but you cant --hagnat 04:30, 6 May 2013 (BST)

I like this by the way. In a few hours Aichon can effectively decide his successor. --Rosslessness 16:27, 10 May 2013 (BST)

I'd actually suggest that the choice is yours and has been all along. It's pretty clear that you're gonna pass your evaluation, so the only question is whether or not you'll withdraw from the 'crat election. I was actually surprised when you didn't do it right off the bat. Aichon 16:51, 10 May 2013 (BST)
Summer = 8 weeks of work for me. So no real issues there. Plus the demotion thing helped me re-evaluate. --Rosslessness 16:55, 10 May 2013 (BST)
I took Ross not withdrawing from the crat vote already as willingness showed by conduct implying an intent. -- Spiderzed 18:25, 10 May 2013 (BST)

After some discussion with Aichon, which boiled down to "Whatever dude", I hereby decree this RE as successful. -- Spiderzed 17:31, 13 May 2013 (BST)

For older re-evaluations, please consult the archives.

Re-Evaluations Scheduling

User Position Last Contribution Seat Available
A Helpful Little Gnome (Contribs) Bureaucrat 2021-10-29 2021-12-01
DanceDanceRevolution (Contribs) Bureaucrat 2021-10-28 2021-12-01
Rosslessness (Contribs) Sysop 2024-06-10 N/A
Stelar (Contribs) Sysop 2021-10-29 N/A

Total Sysops: 4 (excluding Kevan, LeakyBocks and Urbandead)

Last updated at: 03:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)