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Jedaz

Hey if you want that program let me know your E-mail so I can send it to you, the wiki doesn't allow me to upload .exe's. You can contact me at da_jedas@hotmail.com - Jedaz 10:41, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Hey I was wondering how the program was going for you? I've got a newer version if you want it which also changes the formatting on peer accepted and undecided suggestions. - Jedaz 12:08, 6 May 2006 (BST)
I like it, haven't had much time to test it though. If you could email me the newer version that would be great.--The General W! Mod 14:29, 6 May 2006 (BST)
I see you recived the E-mail, also thanks for voting on the Featured Suggestions. - Jedaz 14:35, 7 May 2006 (BST)
The program is really useful, it makes it a lot easier to move things to peer rejected. The new one which converts all the suggestion types will be great.--The General W! Mod 14:41, 7 May 2006 (BST)
Ok, I'll make that minor change and send it to you. It won't be too hard to do. - Jedaz 23:36, 7 May 2006 (BST)
Hey, when you add new suggestions to the peer reviewed suggesions could you also remember to add the suggestion you added to the list on the peer reviewed page so they are acurate? Thanks. - Jedaz 12:41, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Hmm.... well I don't seem to be getting the problem that you described. But I'll re-send you the newest version. I know at one stage that it had that problem, but it didn't seem that it affected wether or not it was peer reviewed. Any way I'll still re-send you the most recent version - Jedaz 03:41, 18 May 2006 (BST)

WikiSort

Ah yes I noticed the same thing as well just the other day. I've alredy made a fix for it. The program searches for specific lines of text and replaces it, but the problem was that there were some tabs or something extra in the text it was looking through so the computer doens't look at it the same way. Any way I'll go and E-mail you the newest version so that should fix it. If not then let me know which page it doesn't process properly and then I'll go and figgure it out. But I think this update should fix it. - Jedaz 04:54, 29 May 2006 (BST)

User talk:TehAwesome

Did you want to categorize this as a moderation template? --Lint 04:31, 2 May 2006 (BST)

No, I didn't.--The General W! Mod 06:56, 2 May 2006 (BST)

Adbot attack

I got all six of them, and claimed the first seconds before you :P Oh well. I think i put all of the pages created on the speedydeletions page. Your turn :D --Grim s-Mod 20:05, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Amazing Ban Petition thingy

If Amazing is voted to be banned, will it be officially official? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 09:42, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Not likely, as there is no close time on the poll. MaulMachine 17:52, 10 May 2006 (BST)

No. Under no circumstances will I ban someone for being unpopular, which effectively all this is. If anyone does then I suggest you file a misconduct report.--The General W! Mod 20:15, 10 May 2006 (BST)

OK. Just wondering :) --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 08:40, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Protections

Will do.--Vista W! 21:16, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Thanks.--The General W! Mod 21:17, 10 May 2006 (BST)
and done--Vista W! 21:21, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Two Things

  1. About the template Arbitrationnotice - you added a category to it without the required piping, and the category wasn't surrounded by <noinclude> tags.
  2. From your user page: "i'm" - for someone complaining about the lack of proper captialisation, that really should've been "I'm".

–Xoid S•T•FU! 13:59, 11 May 2006 (BST)

For someone being picky, period, it should have been "I am" or "I'm". If you're going to criticize, make sure that you are correct first. -Wyn (talk!) 15:03, 11 May 2006 (BST)
This is what happens when I write late at night; I make an ass out of myself. The typo is now corrected. I was only trying to point out that his diatribe about people's bad spelling and grammar contained bad spelling and grammar. The irony factor alone… –Xoid S•T•FU! 15:43, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Mod Bid

I'm sending this message out to everyone who had spoken on my modship bid. Recently it was suggested that I wipe the slate clean and start over with a new bid. I decided against this for two main reasons: First, I don't want to risk causing any drama, and Second, I don't want to risk people on either side not being heard the second time around.

I am, however, asking anyone who has spoken to take a moment of thier time to review the case and deatermine if they need to change thier vote or, more than likely, keep it as is. Thank you. --SirensT RR 14:58, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Striking Votes

  • Moderators do not have their hands bound. They're just as capable of putting motions up as any of the rest of the users on the wiki - since you guys are so hell-bent on making that point. Also, I'd like to point out that if the moderators had bothered to seperate out things like harassment and vandalism, and things of that sort, you wouldn't be facing ambiguities which would get you slapped with a miconduct case. Sorry to have to say it, but by a lack of moderator-led motions, you guys painted yourself into a corner through the belief that you guys are only custodians. -Wyn (talk!) 19:52, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Cycling suggestions

I have matters well in hand with that. There is no need to add a few more little titles to the undisplayed section. --Grim s-Mod 01:22, 21 May 2006 (BST)

spamming

don't forget to move the suggestions and link them when you spam suggestions--Vista W! 23:14, 24 May 2006 (BST)

I am moving them. Don't think we have to leave a link though.--The General W! Mod 23:17, 24 May 2006 (BST)


Policy Discussion Rework

take a look at this page. This is how the policy discussion page should look like. Comments ? --hagnat mod 02:29, 27 May 2006 (BST)


my character

Nothing much. just on exercusion. moving through and walking malton like kaine from kung-fu walks the earth. (Or as vincent vega from pulp fiction whould say, being a bum.) I take it you're Aider? Any thing fun happening with the strike breakers there?

Heh I healed amazing a couple of days ago... Can't remember where though... Nice to see you in game. where are all the rest of the gang?--Vista 20:58, 27 May 2006 (BST)


Spam Spam Spam

I think it might do, once it passes the 30 spam line I might consider to make a page about the worst suggestion in history, and that will be the first to get in. --Changchad WTF•W!•SGP 09:00, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Deletion question

Hypothetical situation: If I wanted to speedily delete one of my own user pages under Criterion 8, would I still have to put in a request? Or could I just do it? --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 11:30, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Theretically, you would still have to file a request. But I suspect that noone would complain if you did go ahead a delete it. Why don't you write up something in policy disscussion about it?--The General W! Mod 11:33, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Hmm... I think I'll collaborate with Xoid on this one. I'm not very good at writing things by myself. --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 11:59, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Ok.--The General W! Mod 12:04, 29 May 2006 (BST)


Can you undelete images? (That barricade plan was still in use.) –Xoid S•T•FU! 12:24, 29 May 2006 (BST)

I uploaded a replacement image. --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 12:26, 29 May 2006 (BST)
As a simple note... No. Only the image location is stored in the database, the actual image itself is stored elsewhere. Deleting an image (or an image revision) deletes the actual image, which unfortunately cannot be undone. -- Odd Starter talk • Mod • W! 13:58, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Luckily enough, then uploaded a much better looking replacement than the image they lost. So I don't think they were too pissed. I think that both of them are going to check twice before deleting an image from now. –Xoid S•T•FU! 14:02, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Arbitration Question

What do you think about something like this given Scinfaxi's complete refusal of Arbitration during Wikigate? A new case will just be destroyed like the old one. -- Amazing 06:39, 30 May 2006 (BST)

My opinion is that Scinfaxi can't spell. Apart from that? Well, as you love to remind people a user page is that user's property. Scinfaxi may be a dick, but as long as it's on his user page, I belive that takes precedence over any arbitration ruling that does not specifically state he lost sole owner ship of his page. –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:46, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Moderation promotion

I just wanted to thank you for voting "Abstain" instead of "Against" on the Moderation/Promotions page, given my past run-in with Amazing. If there's anything I can do to demonstrate my resolve not to engage in any further wiki drama (questions you'd like answered or what have you, obviously time is the best demonstration), please let me know. Thanks. --Bob Hammero T•W!•U! 11:13, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Number of Edits

You are somewhere between 1500 and 2000, and that is just from after the last purge.–Xoid S•T•FU! 17:13, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks, I just didn't want to count them so I made a guess.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:17, 1 June 2006 (BST)

I Must Protest...

I was trying to help the newbies, if someone comes along and sees that, they would believe that Pking on 6/6/06 is allowed, but not all groups (CDF, AoG, etc.) accept that day as legal, making them banned from some important tools.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DJSMITH (talk • contribs) .

Curious

Any particular reason for my early unbanning? You are aware that Amazing will likely call you for misconduct charges over this if you don't supply a reason on misconduct page.

Now that my advice has been given, I'm sitting the rest of the 2 hours out. –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:59, 2 June 2006 (BST)

I reconsidered and decided that it did not warrant a banning. If unbanning you is Misconduct then I will take whatever punishment I am given.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 10:03, 2 June 2006 (BST)
In the email you sent me, you said I had a valid reason, yet on the misconduct page you said it only deserved a stern warning, which I haven't gotten. (If you changed your mind after sending the email.) I'm more than a little confused. –Xoid S•T•FU! 10:51, 2 June 2006 (BST)
I believe that you do have a valid reason but the Misconduct page does not allow for that, so you must be given a stern warning that if it happens again you will receive a temp ban.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:16, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Suggestion Page

One of my suggestions got 75% keep votes back in April. It isn't in the peer reviewed section yet. I was wondering whether I could do move it myself or if only Mods are allowed to do things like that. Krazy Monkey 12:20, 2 June 2006 (BST)

By all means, go ahead. –Xoid S•T•FU! 12:21, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Misconduct Page

The General, I left a question for you on the Misconduct page, would you please reply when you get the chance? Thanks. --Lucero Talk U! 19:21, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Unsigned Template

Unfortunately, until MediaWiki 1.(6? 7?) comes in, you can't have default variables, so the final pipe in the {{Unsigned}} template is necessary. –Xoid S•T•FU! 13:38, 4 June 2006 (BST)


Private Discussion

Go to http://modofmod.proboards99.com/index.cgi for Mod Discussions Conndrakamod T W! 19:19, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Proboards? Use invisionfree it's far better.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:25, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Dangit! An' I just finished setting up an account. (Still not sure what it's meant for.) –Xoid S•T•FU! 19:29, 4 June 2006 (BST)
I think it's supposed to be private disscussion between the mods, I think we would be better of using the private board on my forum, personally.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:38, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Protection for the main page

Please see M/PT now. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:48, 8 June 2006 (BST)

Vandalism

Recently you warned me for vandalising the wiki. I would like you to reconsider your decision. This is for two reasons:

  1. The edit in question was a good edit. It improved the wiki. The thing it removed was a portion of a sentence stating that users should avoid doing something because they would get flamed. The problem with this reasoning is that it means that nasty, insulting people, through flaming, can dictate what people can and can't do. Nasty people should not be empowered by their flaming.
  2. I had already said on the relevant talk page that I thought the edit should be made. If you carefully (because I didn't say it all that clearly) read the talk page, especially but not exclusively my first bullet point, you will see that I had previously stated that I thought flaming was a poor reason, and that I thought it should be removed from the page.

All in all, I think this was a good edit, made in an appropriate manner, and so I would like you to re-evaluate your decision, and (hopefully) withdraw your warning. --Toejam 22:41, 8 June 2006 (BST)

I honestly can't believe the over reactions I've been seeing lately. A warning is nothing major. No-one thinks less of you for having one! People don't go, "Ooh! He's got a warning! Let's flame him and be not nice!" All you have to do is simply not do it again. Is that so hard for you that you require extra chances? Cyberbob  Talk  10:56, 9 June 2006 (BST)
The point was, it wasn't vandalism in the first place. Reading The General's comments on the vandal banning page, I think he realised this, but unfortunately the warning remains on my talk page. It seems almost like a loose end to be tidied up. --Toejam 16:47, 19 June 2006 (BST)
Yes, it does seem like that, doesn't it? Too bad it isn't. Whatever General may be, he isn't forgetful. Cyberbob  Talk  17:33, 19 June 2006 (BST)
Actually if you reread the history cyberbob, the general gave it out of his hands. (Fell free to withdraw my warning)So there is a loose end. that nobody took it up isn't his fault. I at the time thought that he meant Toejam himself. but as that no longer is an option it best left to the general himself to decide if he wants to retract the warning or not.--Vista 19:42, 19 June 2006 (BST)
WTF? "…portion of a sentence stating that users should avoid doing something because they would get flamed." — are you saying that people who have no idea what they're doing when it comes to formatting; shouldn't get the friendly tip that users quite often get pissed off about it when they [newbies] make an abhorrent mess? And that if they learn how to do things right, they are therefore less likely to get flamed? –Xoid S•T•FU! 11:02, 9 June 2006 (BST)
The way that you expect someone to behave influences how they actually behave. Even if we don't mean it to, by saying wiki users will flame, we encourage a tendency for wiki editors to flame. --Toejam 16:47, 19 June 2006 (BST)
Did it really take you over a week to figure out a response to that? Or were you scared I was gonna flame you for your blatant stupidity? (Don't worry, I will.)
You're reasoning is specious: "We shouldn't inadvertantly encourage people to flame. Because then the n00bies will learn from their mistake." — yeah… right. Talking to people calmly is really going to get through their thick-headed stupidity. I know I often go up to the legally braindead and say "Please stop drooling, because I would appreciate it to not look at you making a mess." — of course they immediately sit up and pay attention and wipe away any drool. Hell it works all the time. No really; the braindead n00bs can be informed to; I'm sure of it. If we just speak calmly… fuck that. n00bs are n00bs. No mercy for them; if they're stupid enough to fuck up big time they deserve every ounce of venom they get. –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:28, 19 June 2006 (BST)

From Burgan

Hey, I was just curious about a policy with the suggestions page. I see you've struck out two 'keep' votes for the education suggestion because they did not give a reason, but I couldn't see the rule that stipulates that. It seems to me that if a suggestion has everything that a voter wants, then it's appropriate for them to vote Keep with just kudos for comments. If there's a rule I missed, can you point me to it, and where to discuss the policy? I also just noticed some jerk trying to hold the wiki hostage over amazing or something when I refreshed the suggestions page; I don't need to discuss how stupid that move is, but I understand if you mods have better things to do at the moment if that keeps up. --Burgan 03:48, 9 June 2006 (BST) P.S. I hope this is done correctly, I'm not used to wiki-messaging.

I'm not Grim, but the rule you're looking for is right here. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 05:35, 9 June 2006 (BST)
Fair enough, but if you simply like a suggestion, I don't see the need to rehash it just to say you like it. I've just never seen votes like this struck before, be it kill, keep, or spam, though I've seen plenty of Spam/Kill votes stand, assuming they agree with previous poster's votes. Is this indicative that this rule will be enforced more consistently now for unjustified votes?
I did vote kill on this particular suggestion, and I'm usually (overly) verbose on my votes, but I thought it odd that those ones were killed like that. I'll take my discourse to the Suggestion talk page. Thanks for the pointer. --Burgan 08:07, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Amazing's Userpage

I removed the content from said page because it was being used as a template posted 20+ times on pages to break them by a Vandal who is most likely Amazing. Please keep the page clear of content to prevent this sort of abuse in the future. – Nubis NWO 17:11, 10 June 2006 (BST)

That achieves nothing. The vandal has now resorted to using the Suggestions page. Are you going to erase that as well? Either way it's just a click of the rollback button. At least with the content we can use it as a cautionary tale for newbies. Cyberbob  Talk  17:14, 10 June 2006 (BST)
Hence the < noinclude> tags that were also placed on that page, and on other pages that were being used by said vandal. – Nubis NWO 17:16, 10 June 2006 (BST)
Then place them on Amazing's page as well. Cyberbob  Talk  17:19, 10 June 2006 (BST)
Exactly, blanking pages is vandalsm.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:52, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Question

UDWiki:User preferences help. I have moved that page into the Help namespace, and altered the system message to point to the correct place. There is one page where I am not sure what I am allowed to do: Moderation/Promotions/Deathnut — there is a link to the resulting redirect there. Do I make that link point to that page's new home; or leave it? If the latter, do I nominate the redirect for deletion anyway? –Xoid S•T•FU! 13:57, 13 June 2006 (BST)

I hope I have understood you correctly. If you asked what I think you asked then, yes, you may change the link.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:03, 13 June 2006 (BST)
The alteration I just made. That's what I meant. –Xoid S•T•FU! 01:06, 14 June 2006 (BST)
Yeah, that's fine.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:33, 14 June 2006 (BST)

nexus

Frithlessil-Owlsa is live.--Vista 22:53, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Great!--The General T Sys U! P! F! 23:12, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Sorry

I thought a newbie would read my page soon. hehehe I removed it anyways. Thanks for reminding me. Shame on me. heheh 343 U! 02:39, 18 June 2006 (BST)

I need your help

I feel I have been wronged by a certain faction of wiki moderators. Please visit this page and voice your opinion. Because of my group affiliation, I know I am linked to controversial user Amazing, however, my history on the wiki and in-game has been positive and constructive. I would appreciate your opinion and/or support on this matter. Thank you. --Zod Rhombus 15:15, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Running again soon

Since you voted on my previous bid for moderator, I'm just letting you know that I plan on running again next month. I know a few people, yourself included, expressed concern that the drama stuff wasn't far enough in the past yet. Since I plan on running again, I would appreciate hearing what your thoughts at this point are. Thanks. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 08:40, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Before I put my bid in, that is. (Sorry, I forgot to say that before.) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:35, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Question

You put "speedy delete" on my page but it isn't in the "speedy delete" page. WTF? The most annoying thing since Crazy Frog 19:34, 24 June 2006 (BST)

I didn't, you added it by adding the "save Amazing" template. I'll try to fix it.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:39, 24 June 2006 (BST)
General, a bone to pick if you may. I think that this is the third time I've seen you've simply added something to a template, when that something wasn't meant to be included, without it being surrounded by <noinclude> tags. Please, be more careful when working with templates. –Xoid S•T•FU! 08:37, 1 July 2006 (BST)
I didn't add the tags, someone else did. But, yes I will be more careful.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:04, 1 July 2006 (BST)

Revertion

I reverted your edit because not only was it that comment, it was also removing about two-thirds of the page. Can you resubmit the comment? Cyberbob  Talk  17:34, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Yes, sorry.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:35, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Warning

You left a note on my page about vandalizing, but I don't see any entries in vandal banning regarding any of my recent edits, and you neglected to leave a reason. Please elaborate. -- Rueful 14:51, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Xoid has explained it on your talk page.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 18:59, 30 June 2006 (BST)

You shot me

And I wasn't even on strike! No, the world will not thank you for this. It's a lesser place without me. Scinfaxi 07:50, 5 July 2006 (BST)

LMFAO. Can I quote you on that? –Xoid S•T•FU! 07:57, 5 July 2006 (BST)
Yes, yes you can Xoid. Scinfaxi 20:26, 5 July 2006 (BST)

No, but you are a pker.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:00, 5 July 2006 (BST)

What do strike breakers do? Surely they don't kill other players do they? WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO! I prefer to think of myself as a vigilante though. I dispense justice! I am the law! Scinfaxi 20:26, 5 July 2006 (BST)
They kill people who are on strike.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:31, 5 July 2006 (BST)
Well, how's that different than me? We all got to feed our families! Scinfaxi 20:47, 5 July 2006 (BST)
It's not different.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:51, 5 July 2006 (BST)
So how come Aider shot me? You're Aider? Scinfaxi 21:00, 5 July 2006 (BST)
I was annoyed that Rueful pking me, I killed the nearest, and most closely associated person to him.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 21:53, 5 July 2006 (BST)
While rueful is handsome and daring, I haven't associated with or even spoken to him in several weeks. Scinfaxi 06:51, 6 July 2006 (BST)

I shot you

I really don't want this to escalate, but I killed Aider for shooting Amazin'g (I think that's who it was). I don't think the reason you gave for PKing him was acceptable. I mean really, who hasn't impersonated Amazing or the Crossman Defense Force at least once? Scinfaxi 22:22, 16 July 2006 (BST)

I haven't impersonated them, for one thing. Anyway, don't worry, you'll be joining him soon.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 22:36, 16 July 2006 (BST)
But I'm not on strike! I've obviously been working very hard. Scinfaxi 23:06, 16 July 2006 (BST)
Yeah, but you pked me. I usually opt for a policy of "honour among thieves", but as you killed me......--The General T Sys U! P! F! 08:04, 17 July 2006 (BST)
Dude, you killed me first and you also killed someone for impersonating Amazing. Scinfaxi 19:13, 17 July 2006 (BST)
Ok, the pking you was unwarrented. But Amazin g is an impersonator, and I don't like impersonators. I would kill an impersonator of you as well.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:21, 17 July 2006 (BST)

Warning

The group page mentioned me in a false way. I think I had the right to do that. Sonny Corleone WTF 15:54, 11 July 2006 (BST)

In what way was what it said false? Anyway, group pages are the sole property of the group leader.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 15:59, 11 July 2006 (BST)
It said exactly what you had done. If you wished to have the page altered, to reflect the fact that you were simply doing so as to prevent another bitchfest like the ICB's mere existence caused, you should have said so on the talk page. Also, General, group pages are not the soul property of the group leader — there ain't nothing spiritual about them. –Xoid S•T•FU! 16:18, 11 July 2006 (BST)
Sorry, grammar nazi.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:23, 11 July 2006 (BST)
Oh sure, now you're saying that group pages are fish. ;) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 16:42, 11 July 2006 (BST)
Ok, how do you spell it smartarse?--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:43, 11 July 2006 (BST)
Sole. :P (But it really is a fish, too. You could go with "solely" if you wanted to ward off smartasses like me.) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 17:23, 11 July 2006 (BST)

Suggestions Page and your sig

They can't live together. Look at the suggestions page please. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 20:09, 17 July 2006 (BST)

Ok, yeah, that thing always bugs me.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:32, 17 July 2006 (BST)

Suggestions Page and the forum

Unh, I suggest that you put the link to the forum onto the Suggestions talk page and just alter developing suggestions so it's there rather then on the main suggestions page. I don't know, maybe it's just me but I don't think it's really appropiate for it to be on the main page area because it sets a very bad precedent. - Jedaz 10:53, 18 July 2006 (BST)

There was originally one to Amazing's forum and no one complained, this forum is co-run by all the moderators.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 10:54, 18 July 2006 (BST)
Fair enough, I never knew that fact about Amazing's forum. Oh well, I just thought I would say. - Jedaz 12:41, 18 July 2006 (BST)
Ok. All moderators get made admins on the forum. And, yeah, I can see your point about it and I wouldn't have put it there if it wasn't co-run by he moderators.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 12:44, 18 July 2006 (BST)

Sonny's vote

How can I get my vote back into that suggestion? It wasn't trolling. I hate that suggestion with a passion. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:12, 18 July 2006 (BST)

You take it up with the moderator who struck it out, ie: me. Saying you hate the suggestor counts as trolling, it is not relevent to the suggestion.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:14, 18 July 2006 (BST)
I then added that it'll unbalance the game. And how is it trolling that I hate it? I cannot express my feelings about it? How I loathe it? But I'm sure if I came up with a suggestion that zombies get 100 HP and someone said they hated it it'd be fine. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:16, 18 July 2006 (BST)
You may say you hate the suggestion, not the suggestor. If people said they hated one of your suggestions then it's fine, if they said they hated you then i'd strike it out.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:20, 18 July 2006 (BST)
That's retarded. In the days of Mattiator we were allowed to express our hate for him. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:27, 18 July 2006 (BST)
Read. The. Rules. No trolling.--The General-W! P! Mod20:28, 18 July 2006 (BST)
Actually, trolling is allowed as long as it isn't a vote purely there to troll. Don't you just love the way things are worded around here? i.e. Poorly. –Xoid S•T•FU! 23:14, 18 July 2006 (BST)
I suppose I should have been expecting it, considering that this is the wiki which expects us to delete protected pages.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 23:17, 18 July 2006 (BST)
Classic, isn't it? I'm about this close to flipping out and saying that Odd Starter must have been either extremely high when writing many of these policies, or he is simply extremely stupid. Oops, wait, I just did. –Xoid S•T•FU! 23:35, 18 July 2006 (BST)

Sonny's...

"Whether he is or isn't out of his mind, you are not allowed to use "note".--The General-W! P! Mod19:13, 18 July 2006 (BST)" — Like, WTF? Since when was there a restriction on the use of the word "note"? I know his response was a strikable one, but wouldn't that have fallen under the "Author Re: only" rule? –Xoid S•T•FU! 00:09, 19 July 2006 (BST)

Technically speaking, only moderators can use "Note," and only when striking a vote that exists only to troll. Aren't our rules fun? –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 02:58, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Note: Convoluted, more like. –Xoid S•T•FU! 04:44, 19 July 2006 (BST)

lt was a joke, I assumed that people would understand that I was sticking out a non-author Re.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 06:40, 19 July 2006 (BST)

I understood it, but sadly, I wasn't kidding about the "Note" usage. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 06:43, 19 July 2006 (BST)
Ah. I missed that. Obviously. >_< –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:55, 19 July 2006 (BST)

I'm famous today. Sonny Corleone WTF 06:56, 19 July 2006 (BST)

You're already were famous. Now you're just being discussed behind your back. :-p –Xoid S•T•FU! 07:01, 19 July 2006 (BST)
OH MY GOD, WHAT IF SONNY INFILTRATES ASS NEXT?! Oh wait. :) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 07:05, 19 July 2006 (BST)

New policy

Howdy General. Just giving you a heads up that the policy to prohibit content outside of the normal page area has passed, in case you didn't see for yourself. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 06:25, 21 July 2006 (BST)

"Invalid" votes

I'd like to disagree with your striking of Xoid's "WTFCENTAURS" vote. Although you are following the letter of the law, you are not following its spirit. I know that there is, according to the policies, no "WTFCENTAURS" vote, but it is well-understood that that vote is synonymous with "Spam." If you strike his vote, you also have to strike my "SPAMTARDED," Gage's "SPAMTACULAR," and Sonny's "WTFCENTAURS." After all, none of those are valid votes either. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:04, 21 July 2006 (BST)

I will, give me a minute.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:16, 21 July 2006 (BST)
Well, I saw you struck the other "WTFCENTAURS," but not mine or Gage's? Come now, our votes are just as invalid. If you allow those, then you will surely allow "SPAMWTFCENTAURS" as well? –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:27, 21 July 2006 (BST)
Yes I did!--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:29, 21 July 2006 (BST)
Weird, I still see them there. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 01:42, 22 July 2006 (BST)
I should make a policy for WTFCENTAURS. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:06, 21 July 2006 (BST)
Please do. But I propose that it be generic enough to cover new votes — in other words, there should be an allowance for allowed votes to "evolve" on the page. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:25, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Feel free to display it, General

If you like:


Trophy.jpg The General's Bob Award
For his dedication in banning vandals.

–Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 08:54, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks!--The General T Sys U! P! F! 09:15, 25 July 2006 (BST)
My pleasure. It looks like there's a bit of disagreement over the ban, unfortunately. Damnit, it's insane how much crap we're given. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 09:17, 25 July 2006 (BST)
Yeah, i'm still waiting for someone to tell me, with a straight face, that the edit was good faith.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 09:25, 25 July 2006 (BST)
I never thought it was. I just don't think the ruling will stick. –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:27, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Axe Hack

Post it in the sections related to it. The Suburb pages are not recruitment pages, don't post unrelated stuff on other suburbs.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 15:45, 26 July 2006 (BST)

umm.....how do i do that? - Axe Hack

Do what? You posted an unrelated message on loads of suburbs.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 15:52, 26 July 2006 (BST)

i'm sorry for that...i just need to recruit people to take back the southwest corner of malton...i only have 4 people willing to go with me...but i know i'm going to need more people if the southwest is going to come back into survivor hands....so all i ask is where do i post for a call of arms?is it on the recruitment page or what?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Axe Hack (talk • contribs) .

Yeah, the recruitment page would be a good bet. You may also want to post about it on the relevant suburb pages.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:01, 26 July 2006 (BST)

but isnt the recruitment page for group recruitment?i'm not going for group recruitment.and where do i find the relevant page?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Axe Hack (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

You could get round that by making it into a group, wouldn't that be a better way to coordinate it anyway?--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:08, 26 July 2006 (BST)

ok....thank you for helping me.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Axe Hack (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Great...another group that will last a week and then be forgotten. Too bad my policy won't pass. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS CoL 16:11, 26 July 2006 (BST)
It's better than him spamming pages.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:27, 26 July 2006 (BST)

last a week and be forgotten huh?i got a few recruits...it'll only last til SW Malton is back under survivor control.....and i said i was sorry about those spams.....and i did not vandalize.......i got lazy to rewrite all those call of arms so i copied and paste....those call of arms came from my head...........................................again i'm sorry for those unneccessary call of arms................. -- Axe Hack ummmm................how do i report a bug?i tried to sign on UD with another character but after my first move, everything went back to my character axe hack.i tried to do this with the same character and another character,but the same thing happened.and yes i did sign axe hack off. --Axe Hack 18:11, 26 July 2006 (BST)Axe Hack

Vista

Just letting you know that my busy period will probably last a couple of months and that I've put everything UD&Nexus related on a very low burner. Sorry, I hope the group will do better then I did.--Vista 22:16, 27 July 2006 (BST)

Ok, thanks for telling me. I'll continue with the group as best I can. It's been a pleasure working with you.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 22:21, 27 July 2006 (BST)
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